@@gwanetayla7683 i'm not saying i want legend skin, sorry for making u confuss bcause i thought collector have special special interactive animation. Other Collection skins have their own special random actions and display musics
@@seanandreicruz29 The special interactive animation is what his Exorcist and Legend have. The collectors have a random animation (this one for the interface) and random idle/action (this one for the in-game)
@@gwanetayla7683 yeah but its really nice if The old Collectors like Pharsa Granger and other 2020 Collectors have their Own Voice Lines, Display Music and Special random Actions. Without those things is like And Epic skin
@@seanandreicruz29 I don't mind. I got what I paid for at that time. We are in a different time. Moonton doesn't need to rework or revamp anything from the past.
As a self-proclaimed Granger main who owns all of his skin, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THE COLLECTOR MODEL NOR THE SKILL EFFECTS The only downfalls i see are the lack of interactive interface, random idle, and voicelines because it's an old. Everything else checks fine🙂 Look at the Granger exorcist in-game model it already looks dull(blurry) before it even came out, lol The in-game model goes to Collector.😅
Me also main him,plus 3 thousand matches with him (fav hero ofc)and I have all of his skins includin his RARE PAINTED ELITE skin(the darker one)can only be obtain once through old starlight system luckily I manage to get it in time so probably there's no more chance to get that rare painted skin now I guess or atleast must wait for new anual starlight skin announcement for gacha to be able exchange that skin again huhu Btw I'm top local number 7 Granger in my country not global xD but hey its still okay if we can have some changes for his outdated aka old skins ayy cool to see something new like new awesome effects this and there ^^ I'm still okay with it Except for his new BS revamp that energy bar stuff seriously make me punch the wall fr totally not worth and I really disappointed with his new BS revamp playstyle ngl itt SUCKSSS For the look I mean his new revamp appearance heyhey not bad I like his new design and his additional recall so firee xD🔥🔥
@@adha_roxas Ohhh, another Granger main skin collector. Even tho we both main, we also have our differences. Example: You said the new revamped Granger to be BS, but you like his new model. You also said you want a change of space for his old skin effects, but you're ok with the current one. And the one thing we (I) agree to like the free new recall with the revamped. Here is my side: As for me, I also want a change of space but not in his skin effects but his playstyle overall, something new and something that's very versatile in the field and the new revamp offers that. After playing him for over 3 years with nearly 3k match his current playstyle became so redundant and can be predicted after his ult nerf (as a finisher rather than to start a fight with) and with the current game most teams have cc (even layla can cancel his 1st skill from a miles away) his basic attack no damage at all if compared to marksman like Clint or Lesley event Brody even tho they reliant skill but not as heavily as Granger. I won't ask for immunity for his 1st skill because they had to remove immunity to nerf him back then. But ever since they introduced the new 3rd talent, "Temporal Reign," I honestly won't mind if they don't change his passive or 1st skill anymore and just keep revamped ult so that way it's will be easier to reactivate his 1st skill if it ever gets canceled by those mini stun like Laylas' and Brunos'. I don't like the revamp posture, but it's not like I will be using his default skin to see that, so I let it slide Yes, energy bar sucs, and honestly, depending on the nerf that will overkill if he is too powerful would be making him dependent on the blue buff.
@@gwanetayla7683 Yeah I like his new revamp model I accept it with open heart and move on with his old design except for his new revamp playstyle mechanic that totally a mess and big no no for truly main Granger players xD we will forever loves and stick with the 6 BULLETS STACK display under his HP and I mean let the LAST BULLET aka RED BULLET do the talking if you know you know xD Hey its fine we both seems have different perspectives and opinions about what we both are okay with and not and I respect that xD besides nobody can change your mind except yourself decide I mean think for you whether you like it or not ahaha If you're real player you probably ever remember that old Granger is the first unique marksman that can do unlimited dash(HIS SECOND SKILL) like lancelot and his ULTIMATE can immune any CC back in the days many people really thinks him as assassin and not just ordinary MM ahaha they also thought his two awesome skills was a bug but unfortunately its not and he's been in ban section for longest period of time until moonton decide to remove him from the game for awhile just to stop the madness that he cause in rank matches everytime he got escape in ban section even meta heroes that have CC skills cannot stop old Granger that time because of his ULTIMATE easily immune their CC skills and his unlimited dash that so hard for them to catch him off guard,good old times when he such a broken hero for sure xD Now they remove those two uniques stuff on him,so he's finally turn back just like normal and other MMS can compete with him even Layla got adjustment with her skill now she can stun enemies,those original MMS rely heavily on their CRITICAL with the introduction of WIND OF NATURE as their core item,well they can win ez against Granger,I admit 50/50,anyways he's the most unique MM of all never forget that🔥🥰Moonton should consider him to be added in assassin role by now not just put him as MM role forever that's not fair ahaha Btw hey his basic attack also hit like a fxkin ASTEROID if you know his core item blade of heptasis as first item combo with QUICK CHARGE talent emblem(my fav TALENT EMBLEM OF ALL)BOOM 1 shot for sure!!🔥(not copy from global player xD) I build him with my own item myself cuz I know every weakness and his potential against each opponent he been facing with if you know how to build his full secret aka counter items he gonna be absolutely a monster and dominate the game mostly in solo Q ^^ don't forget about your teammates as well without them sometimes work sometimes not xD Lastly hmm I dunno I just like him doesn't matter about his old look or new look same goes with all of his skins and effects I know those just change his appearance to look even cooler and awesome plus rich boy xD what I mean it always be HIM the Granger we know❄that's all but except for his new SUCKS DUMB FCKIN BS NEW REVAMP MECHANIC PLAYSTYLE I still cannot forget about that huhu wish those stupid ideas got scrap and never been into final ingame huhu
@@adha_roxas This is the reason why moonton should definitely revamp Granger "Last bullet" lol don't you see that you have to sacrifice 2nd skill (your survivor/mobility skill) inorder to close the gap between you and the enemy and nowadays teams every player in the team has cc, it's not 2021. And everything you said about the old Granger was overly exaggerated, for example you said unlimited dash like lance but it was a bug not intended, if you wanna say otherwise check out this RUclipsr "RTE TV" and that was the reason why Granger was also banned by Moonton. Calling it unique is wild You said his ult was immune to cc? Of course not. It wasn't. If you mean his ult won't be canceled in the stats of cc that doesn't make him immune to cc, it just means after the duration of cc, you can continue casting it. But moonton gave a fair explanation why his ult would get canceled after cc so that you can have more flexibility rather than to be stuck in his ult position. It wasn't his ult that was immune to cc, but his 1st skill. Granger doesn't hit like you said he does. Go do damage comparison with the heroes mentioned Lesley, Clint, and Brody, and if you Granger can dash in to kill any of them, you are horribly mistaken. They output more damage than him, which can cause some sort of cc (knock back+up, root (immobile), and stun). So tell me, what does Granger have that will stop these reliant skill based heroes from repositioning after his "Last bullet"? The look does not matter bc I will use skins to cover it. If you are afraid of changes, just admit it. No one really likes a change of pace in a character you got comfortable with. You like what you like, I have no problem with the current Granger or his Revamped version but what I do have a problem is I voted for a change not for some buff so i am determined to get the revamped Granger. Agree or not, the current Granger gameplay is very blunt and redundant. 6 bullets ain't enough for the META or for the revamped Helcurt, Aurora and Phoveus, new and upcoming heroes like Nolan (unlimited dash with mini pull) and Zhuxin (3+sec cc) and the new assassin with the double skill in each skill icon. Isn't he supposed to be the star Revamped for 2023-2024? I guess I will leave it to time, just like Natalia and Vale revamp. This one will eventually come through. Peace out.
The issue is not video game theme or hero model. It was supposed to be an epic skin, but changed its tag to collector. And it lacks good skill effects.
First generation of Collector Skins need optimization, new sfx, idle/in game animation/interaction and new voicelines.
The first generation (4) collectors walked, so the new generation collector could run
same
First gen collectors need upgrade😂
Collector needs a New Display and Ingame Voice Lines, Display Music, Special Interactive Animation and Special Random Action
That's like saying you want legend skin lol
Random idle, BGM, and voiceline should be enough
@@gwanetayla7683 i'm not saying i want legend skin, sorry for making u confuss bcause i thought collector have special special interactive animation. Other Collection skins have their own special random actions and display musics
@@seanandreicruz29 The special interactive animation is what his Exorcist and Legend have. The collectors have a random animation (this one for the interface) and random idle/action (this one for the in-game)
@@gwanetayla7683 yeah but its really nice if The old Collectors like Pharsa Granger and other 2020 Collectors have their Own Voice Lines, Display Music and Special random Actions. Without those things is like And Epic skin
@@seanandreicruz29 I don't mind. I got what I paid for at that time. We are in a different time. Moonton doesn't need to rework or revamp anything from the past.
Need sfx like collector wanwan
As a self-proclaimed Granger main who owns all of his skin, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THE COLLECTOR MODEL NOR THE SKILL EFFECTS The only downfalls i see are the lack of interactive interface, random idle, and voicelines because it's an old. Everything else checks fine🙂
Look at the Granger exorcist in-game model it already looks dull(blurry) before it even came out, lol
The in-game model goes to Collector.😅
Me also main him,plus 3 thousand matches with him (fav hero ofc)and I have all of his skins includin his RARE PAINTED ELITE skin(the darker one)can only be obtain once through old starlight system luckily I manage to get it in time so probably there's no more chance to get that rare painted skin now I guess or atleast must wait for new anual starlight skin announcement for gacha to be able exchange that skin again huhu
Btw I'm top local number 7 Granger in my country not global xD but hey its still okay if we can have some changes for his outdated aka old skins ayy cool to see something new like new awesome effects this and there ^^ I'm still okay with it
Except for his new BS revamp that energy bar stuff seriously make me punch the wall fr totally not worth and I really disappointed with his new BS revamp playstyle ngl itt SUCKSSS
For the look I mean his new revamp appearance heyhey not bad I like his new design and his additional recall so firee xD🔥🔥
@@adha_roxas Ohhh, another Granger main skin collector. Even tho we both main, we also have our differences.
Example: You said the new revamped Granger to be BS, but you like his new model. You also said you want a change of space for his old skin effects, but you're ok with the current one. And the one thing we (I) agree to like the free new recall with the revamped.
Here is my side: As for me, I also want a change of space but not in his skin effects but his playstyle overall, something new and something that's very versatile in the field and the new revamp offers that. After playing him for over 3 years with nearly 3k match his current playstyle became so redundant and can be predicted after his ult nerf (as a finisher rather than to start a fight with) and with the current game most teams have cc (even layla can cancel his 1st skill from a miles away) his basic attack no damage at all if compared to marksman like Clint or Lesley event Brody even tho they reliant skill but not as heavily as Granger. I won't ask for immunity for his 1st skill because they had to remove immunity to nerf him back then. But ever since they introduced the new 3rd talent, "Temporal Reign," I honestly won't mind if they don't change his passive or 1st skill anymore and just keep revamped ult so that way it's will be easier to reactivate his 1st skill if it ever gets canceled by those mini stun like Laylas' and Brunos'.
I don't like the revamp posture, but it's not like I will be using his default skin to see that, so I let it slide
Yes, energy bar sucs, and honestly, depending on the nerf that will overkill if he is too powerful would be making him dependent on the blue buff.
@@gwanetayla7683 Yeah I like his new revamp model I accept it with open heart and move on with his old design except for his new revamp playstyle mechanic that totally a mess and big no no for truly main Granger players xD we will forever loves and stick with the 6 BULLETS STACK display under his HP and I mean let the LAST BULLET aka RED BULLET do the talking if you know you know xD
Hey its fine we both seems have different perspectives and opinions about what we both are okay with and not and I respect that xD besides nobody can change your mind except yourself decide I mean think for you whether you like it or not ahaha
If you're real player you probably ever remember that old Granger is the first unique marksman that can do unlimited dash(HIS SECOND SKILL) like lancelot and his ULTIMATE can immune any CC back in the days many people really thinks him as assassin and not just ordinary MM ahaha they also thought his two awesome skills was a bug but unfortunately its not and he's been in ban section for longest period of time until moonton decide to remove him from the game for awhile just to stop the madness that he cause in rank matches everytime he got escape in ban section even meta heroes that have CC skills cannot stop old Granger that time because of his ULTIMATE easily immune their CC skills and his unlimited dash that so hard for them to catch him off guard,good old times when he such a broken hero for sure xD
Now they remove those two uniques stuff on him,so he's finally turn back just like normal and other MMS can compete with him even Layla got adjustment with her skill now she can stun enemies,those original MMS rely heavily on their CRITICAL with the introduction of WIND OF NATURE as their core item,well they can win ez against Granger,I admit 50/50,anyways he's the most unique MM of all never forget that🔥🥰Moonton should consider him to be added in assassin role by now not just put him as MM role forever that's not fair ahaha
Btw hey his basic attack also hit like a fxkin ASTEROID if you know his core item blade of heptasis as first item combo with QUICK CHARGE talent emblem(my fav TALENT EMBLEM OF ALL)BOOM 1 shot for sure!!🔥(not copy from global player xD) I build him with my own item myself cuz I know every weakness and his potential against each opponent he been facing with if you know how to build his full secret aka counter items he gonna be absolutely a monster and dominate the game mostly in solo Q ^^ don't forget about your teammates as well without them sometimes work sometimes not xD
Lastly hmm I dunno I just like him doesn't matter about his old look or new look same goes with all of his skins and effects I know those just change his appearance to look even cooler and awesome plus rich boy xD what I mean it always be HIM the Granger we know❄that's all but except for his new SUCKS DUMB FCKIN BS NEW REVAMP MECHANIC PLAYSTYLE I still cannot forget about that huhu wish those stupid ideas got scrap and never been into final ingame huhu
@@adha_roxas This is the reason why moonton should definitely revamp Granger "Last bullet" lol don't you see that you have to sacrifice 2nd skill (your survivor/mobility skill) inorder to close the gap between you and the enemy and nowadays teams every player in the team has cc, it's not 2021.
And everything you said about the old Granger was overly exaggerated, for example you said unlimited dash like lance but it was a bug not intended, if you wanna say otherwise check out this RUclipsr "RTE TV" and that was the reason why Granger was also banned by Moonton. Calling it unique is wild
You said his ult was immune to cc? Of course not. It wasn't. If you mean his ult won't be canceled in the stats of cc that doesn't make him immune to cc, it just means after the duration of cc, you can continue casting it. But moonton gave a fair explanation why his ult would get canceled after cc so that you can have more flexibility rather than to be stuck in his ult position. It wasn't his ult that was immune to cc, but his 1st skill.
Granger doesn't hit like you said he does. Go do damage comparison with the heroes mentioned Lesley, Clint, and Brody, and if you Granger can dash in to kill any of them, you are horribly mistaken. They output more damage than him, which can cause some sort of cc (knock back+up, root (immobile), and stun). So tell me, what does Granger have that will stop these reliant skill based heroes from repositioning after his "Last bullet"?
The look does not matter bc I will use skins to cover it. If you are afraid of changes, just admit it. No one really likes a change of pace in a character you got comfortable with. You like what you like, I have no problem with the current Granger or his Revamped version but what I do have a problem is I voted for a change not for some buff so i am determined to get the revamped Granger. Agree or not, the current Granger gameplay is very blunt and redundant. 6 bullets ain't enough for the META or for the revamped Helcurt, Aurora and Phoveus, new and upcoming heroes like Nolan (unlimited dash with mini pull) and Zhuxin (3+sec cc) and the new assassin with the double skill in each skill icon. Isn't he supposed to be the star Revamped for 2023-2024? I guess I will leave it to time, just like Natalia and Vale revamp. This one will eventually come through. Peace out.
Bruh so many essay writers
This is Pay To Win skin 🔥
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Sadly Granger collector is Ugly by default, had it been made in 2024 it won't be this video game theme.
The issue is not video game theme or hero model. It was supposed to be an epic skin, but changed its tag to collector. And it lacks good skill effects.
collector just need his own sound effects and voice line
oh.. and upgraded effects
@@kingmlbb4447 agree and he also need display music, special interactive animation and random action, thats what collector is right?
Wait so Agent Z was supposed to be epic but changed to collector just like Pharsa and Badang?@@indianflippingart9593
Only dorks like toy/food/game themed skins.
It's a Game lol
Look at ur own face and tell me other people wouldnt see a dork
well its a game
1:40 soul leaving the body in excorcist. 😗👌🔥
I agree with the toy or food theme, but the game theme? It goes hard if done well