LIVE 29 May : Ritviks का पर्दाफ़ाश, Part-1 || Dr. Keshav Anand Das
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- While pursuing his medical degree, Dr. Keshav Anand Das came in contact with Krishna Consciousness in the year 1994 and then joined ISKCON as a full-time preacher in the year 1999. Under the able guidance of his spiritual guide, H.H. Bhakti Vikasa Swami, a disciple of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, he has done extensive research in the field of Science and Spirituality and has authored various books and delivered scientific seminars in various colleges around the world. In India, he has been able to open a farm community project based on the Vedic way of living to show how to lead a satisfied and happy life in harmony with nature.
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Prabhupada wrote 9th July letter in reference to the GBC meeting held in May 1977 and the first question was put before the Prabhupada that How initiation would be conducted when prabhupa would no longer be available and Prabhupada said i shall appoint ritvik and the same was issued in writing vide 9th July letter. So it is crystal clear prabhu ji that Prabhupada made no one diksha guru. He made living siksha gurus for training people.
That's True. How a Guru can fall down? This common sense people do not understand.
How a Diksha guru can fall down?
With due respect to Prabhu, how do we justify falling down by using someone else's example? That there's happening fall down in other Sampradayas too. What justification is this?
Ritviks misinterpret the July 9th letter
Prabhupada is present in his instructions forever..
Bhaktisiddhat sarsvati maharaj said my authorised disiple will be glorified in all over the world..and he is one and only srila Prabhupada..
Only HDG Srila Prabhupada is our Bonafide Spiritual Master NO ONE CAN TAKE HIS POSITION If he tries ,he will fall down.HARI BOL
@@spiritsoul4075 No one is taking Srila Prabhupada's position. But one has to follow Guru Sadhu and Shastra for reaching any conclusion, not by mental speculation
yes of course, so please stop mental speculation and nonsensical interpretations and follow Srila Prabhupada's direct orders and become a disciple of Srila Prabhupada!
@@mahotsahachaitanyadas1104 So follow Guru Sadhu and Shastra
Sri Sampradaya, Rudra Sampradaya, Madhwa Sampradaya, Gaudiya Math, ISKCON - all the Sadhus here do not accept Ritvikism
Neither in our Shastras is given any evidence of Ritvik philosophy. In fact, Bhakti Siddhant Saraswati Thakur has actually condemned Ritvik philosophy.
So according to Guru Sadhu and Shastra, Ritvik philosophy is bogus. It is an apa Sampradaya similar to the Karta Bhaja Apa Sampradaya - one of the many Apa Sampradayas as given in Caitanya Charitramrit - where a disciple can take initiation from a Guru even after his physical departure.
In short -
1) Ritvik philosophy not consistent with Guru, Sadhu and Shastra
2) It is consistent with Apa Sampradaya - Karta Bhaja Apa Sampradaya - deviation from science of pure devotional service.
We should be grateful to our Acharyas that they have provided us with this knowledge so that we can catch the deviations outright. Right now Karta Bhaja Apa Sampradaya teachings have made way into ISKCON. In future, who knows what Kali will introduce in the institution formed by Senapati Bhakta Srila Prabhupada.
@@mahotsahachaitanyadas1104 Nonsense logic
Hare Krishna prabhu ji dandwat pranaam 🙏🙏🙏🙏 ... Thank you prbhuji mera bhot badaaaa doubt that ye.. mujhe kafi logics b diye the devotees ne but aj ek dam clear ho gaya sabhi... Thank you again prbhuji 🙏🙏🙏 Jai srila Prabhupada
You must inquire deeply, because you are still in doubt
Yeah and prabhupada established Ritwiks not gurus
Nice. All these Ritvikwadis cannot answer any single question but think they have understood everything
हरे कृष्णा प्रभु जी आपके चरणो में कोटि कोटि दंडवतप्रणाम ऋतिक के बारे में आज मेरा जो भी क्वेश्चन था उसका मुझे आंसर मिल गया थैंक यूप्रभु जी
This class should be archived in Iskcon's constitution.
Very detailed clarification about Ritviks. No confusion can remain after listening to this class.
भक्ति वेदांता नारायण महाराज जी ने ही
अक्षय पात्र का खंडन किया है
गौड़ीय मठ भी नही मानता इस सिस्टम को
ये सिस्टम शास्त्र विरुद्ध अवैदिक है
ये लोग सहजिया है
भक्ति वेदांता नारायण महाराज जी ने ही
अक्षय पात्र का खंडन किया है
गौड़ीय मठ भी नही मानता इस सिस्टम को
ये सिस्टम शास्त्र विरुद्ध अवैदिक है
ये लोग सहजिया है
@@lalitrawal3326 apke manne na manne se kya hoga.. sachai se bhag nhi skte hain
@@sudeepKumariit Ha Sri Sampradaya, Rudra Sampradaya, Madhva Sampradaya, Gaudia Math, ISKCON sab sach se bhaag rahe hain. Keval aap hi sahi hain. Namaskar
Srila Prabhupada himself said in his last recordings of 11,19,31/27 th july 1977 that those gbc members act as ritvik gurus, which is easily available...how you can avoid his order??? Then say you don't want to follow his instructions
Prabhupada said that diksha is formality..if u follow the principles and chant 16 round than you are my disciple..
Prabhuji is proving that ritvik system is wrong but actually we see ritvik follower are totally focused on srila prabhupada vani sanga😊
An important point is that Srila Prabhupada’s final written instruction on initiations is a system whereby new devotees are initiated by a ritvik priest on his (Srila Prabhupada’s) behalf. Many new devotees are not aware of this nor have they read the letter that Prabhupada sent out to all temples on July 9th 1977. This letter very clearly states that henceforward all new devotees would be initiated in this way
Yes in vrindavan we see so humble disciples of their GuruMaharaj, who respect and follow the instructions very dearly and boldly, without even caring for their own self.
Such disciples of Guru only reach The level of Prema with the Mercy of Their Gurudeva who is already self realized and attained the Nij Swarup in Ashtpahar Leela of Sri Sri Radheyshyam.
And the disciples today we see are such elevated sadhus, that majority of them don't accept any disciples, if their Guru has not given them the order to accept. They are following and they will become Nitya Siddha for sure.
It's highly recommended for a seeker in Krishna Conciousness to have immense faith and surrender in the Holy Name of Krishna, such that Radharani Herself nominates her Intimate servant as a Guru for you.
We are so fallen jiv of this Kaliyuga, how can we know whom to aporoach, . It's a very difficult task. Many people go to buy Gurus,like buying from market , these disciples fall down in their level.
Shelter upon the Holy name is needed.
Prabhupada lives in his instructions forever
Better not to waste time on these Ritwik's, they will always find faults . So we should try to focus our Sadhana Properly, let them do whatever they're doing. Jay Srilla Prabhupada... Jaay ISKCON...Jay Keshava Pr💞💕💞💕💞💕 . Haribol 🙏🙏🙏
Please, don't say like this
Me bhi ese hi sochta tha... But esa h nhi...
Yes Ignorance is bliss, be in ignorance and lead to hell.
There is no Guru in Iskcon other than Prabhupada.
@@anujk9011 XDDDD tumhara bhagya bhut kharab hai ki Ritvik me fase ho
Please don't blasphemy ritiviks without knowing the truth
Prabhupada is still with us. He is not dead and gone.
Ritwik system is the most accurate system if we consider from a devotee point of view,from Iskcon point of view its not good, because of money maya
In that sense, even Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura with us.....why not become directly his disciple then? ....Or why not directly become the disciple of 6 goswamis?
Please stop this nonsense of offences against the suddha vaisnavas, i.e., the very senior devotees who by their devotion to Srila Prabhupada and constant endeavour, and by shedding gallons of blood are serving ISKCON!!!
Nectar of Instruction
One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikārī. A neophyte Vaiṣṇava or a Vaiṣṇava situated on the intermediate platform can also accept disciples, but such disciples must be on the same platform, and it should be understood that they cannot advance very well toward the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance. Therefore a disciple should be careful to accept an uttama-adhikārī as a spiritual master.
Atleast watch the videos b4 putting your comment, this point has already been answered!
@@fallen_soul778 his point is valid.....prabhuji is quoting from the next line and purposefully cutting the first line.
Isko doglapan kahte h.
@@Kotagraphics Ek baat batao: 1. Ritvik philosophy Shastro m kaha dia hai?
2. Sri,, Rudra, Nimbark, Madhwa, Gaudia Math - inn sab sampradayo m Ritvik kyu nhi follow hota and ye log Ritvik philosophy ko criticise kyu karte hain?
3. Karta Bhajan Apa-Sampradaya m bhi ye parampara hai ki Guru k physical departure ke baad unde initiation lia jaa skta hai. Kya iska matlab Ritvik ek Apa Sampradaya hai jo Srila Prabhupada k ISKCON m ghus chuki hai?
@@Kotagraphics Secondly, his point is not that we should accept 2nd class/neo-phyte as spiritual masters, BUT they can initiate and accept disciples, thats his point.
Doesn't matter if someone is neo-phyte/madhyam adhikari even he can accept disciples after physical departure of Guru
34:44 there's a lot of interpretation in BG after Prabhupad's departure for example read BG 4.34 in Prabhupad's original BG and Iskcon current BG
केवल श्रील प्रभुपाद ही इस्कॉन के आचार्य हैं उन्होंने अपने आचरण से एक गुरु के मानकों को स्थापित क किया और वर्तमान इस्कॉन गुरु प्रभुपाद जी द्वारा स्वयं स्थापित किए गए मानकों के आसपास भी नहीं भटकते हैं!
Wonderful prabhuji we are blessed to have devotees like you in ISKCON.
Please know the history of iskcon between 1975 and 1990.. then please comment... that is nothing to do with philosophy
This is srila Prabhupad last written order and after that he has not given any order see this letter written on July 9 1979
Letter to: All G.B.C., All Temple Presidents
Vrindaban
9 July, 1977
Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances at your feet. Recently when all of the GBC members were with His Divine Grace in Vrndavana, Srila Prabhupada indicated that soon He would appoint some of His senior disciples to act as \"ritvik
- representative of the acarya, for the purpose of performing initiations, both first initiation and second initiation. His Divine Grace has so far given a list of eleven disciples who will act in that capacity:
His Holiness Kirtanananda Swami
His Holiness Satsvarupa dasa Gosvami
His Holiness Jayapataka Swami
His Holiness Tamala Krsna Gosvami
His Holiness Hrdayananda Gosvami
His Holiness Bhavananda Gosvami
His Holiness Hamsaduta Swami
His Holiness Ramesvara Swami
His Holiness Harikesa Swami
His Grace Bhagavan dasa Adhikari
His Grace Jayatirtha dasa Adhikari
In the past Temple Presidents have written to Srila Prabhupada recommending a particular devotee's initiation. Now that Srila Prabhupada has named these representatives, Temple Presidents may henceforward send recommendation for first and second initiation to whichever of these eleven representatives are nearest their temple. After considering the recommendation, these representatives may accept the devotee as an initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada by giving a spiritual name, or in the case of second initiation, by chanting on the Gayatri thread, just as Srila Prabhupada has done. The newly initiated devotees are disciples of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad, the above eleven senior devotees acting as His representative. After the Temple President receives a letter from these representatives giving the spiritual name or the thread, he can perform the fire yajna in the temple as was being done before. The name of a newly initiated disciple should be sent by the representative who has accepted him or her to Srila Prabhupada, to be included in His Divine Grace's \"Initiated Disciples\" book.
Hoping this finds you all well.
Your servant,
Approved:Tamala Krsna Gosvami
A.C. Bhaktivedanta SwamiSecretary to Srila Prabhupada
Harekrishna prabhuji dandbat pranam !
HARE KRISHNA PRABHU JI KO DANDVAT PERNAM
Hare Krishna Prabhuji Dandwat Prnam
Thanks for clarification
Hare Krishna Prabhu ji dandvat pranam, aapne khaa ki aapne ek disable se charcha ki, per mera aapse hath jodkar nivedan hai, aap Vrindavan Chandra Das Ji se is per ek bar face to face charcha Karen, asha karta hun ki aap agar sahi hai to meri baat se sahmat honge 🙏🙇♂️
Very nice point dear Prabhu
They can speak only in close room
आपने जिनका नाम लिया वृन्दावन चन्द्र दास। इनके विडियो देखा अभी पूरे दिन से। मुझे लगता है उनका सामना ये नहीं कर पाएंगे।
I think Chandra Das ji can defeat this keshvanand ji...with in minutes
Hare krishna prabhu ji..thanku for beautiful clarification..1 more point in support of your argument is in CC Adi lila 1,chapter 1,verse 34, line 4..Guru parampara ki jai..Srila Prabhupada ki Jai
Hare Kr̥ṣṇa
10:49 THIS IS THE POINT!! 💯
Thank Krishna and Srila Prabhupada for saving the Rtviks, from ISKCON Bogus gurus, and the speaker of this video.
In that sense, even Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura with us.....why not become directly his disciple then? ....Or why not directly become the disciple of 6 goswamis?
Please stop this nonsense of offences against the suddha vaisnavas, i.e., the very senior devotees who by their devotion to Srila Prabhupada and constant endeavour, and by shedding gallons of blood are serving ISKCON!!!
I respect the Ritviks in the sense that they are also spreading Krsna consciousness in some capacity....However, by your speech, it is clear what kind of characterless scum you are 👍
Not only do you have Bad Bhagya, but also you are offensive and will go to hell if you don't change your attitude and keep on committing Vaishnav Aparadh
Haribol!!! ❤🙏
Shri Vrindavanchandra Das is the best disciple of our only Diksha Guru Srila Bhaktivedaant Swami Thakur Srila Prabhupad Ji. Ritvik Paddhati hi Satya hai baaki sab galat. Ek baar GIVE Gita par jaakar unke hriday ko sune aap... Karbaddh Prarthana hai. Jai Gaur Hari!
ISKM Singapore bhi Ritvik System hi follow karta hai. Jhooth mat bolo Keshav Anand Das..
Srila Prabhupada ki Jaya. ISKCON KI JAYA.
Ritviks ne aaj tak kabhi ye nhi kaha k Iskcon me koi qualified nahi hai . Ritviks ye kehte hai ke Iskcon gurus authorised nahi hai
Right प्रभु जी
Iska matlab vahi hua na
Vo bolte hai qualified nahi hain isliye vo authorised nahi hai.
Yes sahi
we met some ritviks in the train and this was their logic. They were trying to prove every sanyasi as deviated and unqualified. This video has destroyed all their arguments.
They clearly tell that
But Prabhupada told in the July 9 letter that he is the only Initiator or diksa guru right?
Prabhuji July 9 th letter of initiation padh lo AAP khud ritvik system follow krne lag jaoge
Nice myth buster
Mayawadi to ap log ho jo guru bane ho
Thanks for clearing this up, Prabhuji. Hare Krishna 🙏🏻
Hare krsna Prabhu ji,
Aapne bola ki " Prabhupad ab kha h? "
It means aap mante ho ki prabhupad ab nhi h. Is this very right spiritual understanding? What prabhupad said " I'll never die? " Are you taking this a joke?
He is talking about phisical.
@@guru_cse a guru never dies, He lives by his words. Both physically and mentally.
If you can't see god, you will say god is dead physically , is that a right consideration, dear friend?
Hari Hari Prabhuji, much needed video
Geeta tak to aap logo ne apane hisab se change kar di ..phir prabhupada k system ki kya value hogi
kya haal hai apkae 🌹🙏 nice lecture sir - dhyan rakhna ap apna - charan sprash apko - hare krishna 🌹🥰😊
pr ji.. its about srila prabhupada desire and that last letter. please explain those words
Much needed lecture...thank you so much Prabhu Ji...hare krishna
Again a wonderful detailed lecture 🙏🙏
Harekrishn prabhuji aap humesha sukhi or swasth rahe HAREKRISHN
Vani is more important than vapuh
Hare krishna prabhuji आपने आज मेरा बहुत बड़ा डाउट क्लियर कर दिया। आपका बहुत-बहुत धन्यवाद!मेरे मन में एक और संदेह है कि क्या प्रभुपाद जी को जेहर दिया गया था अगर आप यह डाउट क्लियर कर पाए तो आपकी बहुत कृपा होगी।
Ye sab hoax hai prabhu, koi suddha bhakta ko kon mar sakta hai
Poison theory is fake but unfortunately The 11 acharyas were appointed to act as Ritvik acharyas and not a Diksha guru, dek lo khud hi many gurus among the 11 have fallen (like- kirtananda) and HansDutta Dasa even admitted thier mistake of Disobeying Srila Prabhupada's instruction given in the July 9th letter
Hare Krsna Prabhu. The poison theory is absolutely bogus theory. Srila Prabhupada left the world not because of poison, but because it was time for him to preach Krsna Consciousness in some other planet. But Spiritually, he is connected with us. How can they doubt and undermine the divinity of someone has descended from The Vaikuntha abode.
"In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very disgusted. [...] Still he requested his disciples to form a strong Governing body for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He never recommended anyone to be acarya of the Gaudiya Math. But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. If Guru Maharaja could have seen some one who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so many things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to be nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and conduct the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come out successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected [...] So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorisedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure."
(Srila Prabhupada Letter to Rupanuga, 28/4/74)
Pure devotees of the Lord are more powerful than the waters of the sacred river Ganges. One can derive spiritual benefit out of prolonged use of the Ganges waters. But one can be sanctified at once by the mercy of a pure devotee of the Lord. In Bhagavad-gītā it is said that any person, regardless of birth as śūdra, woman, or merchant, can take shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord and by so doing can return to Godhead. To take shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord means to take shelter of the pure devotees. The pure devotees whose only business is serving are honored by the names Prabhupāda and Viṣṇupāda, which indicate such devotees to be representatives of the lotus feet of the Lord. Anyone, therefore, who takes shelter of the lotus feet of a pure devotee by accepting the pure devotee as his spiritual master can be at once purified. Such devotees of the Lord are honored equally with the Lord because they are engaged in the most confidential service of the Lord, for they deliver out of the material world the fallen souls whom the Lord wants to return home, back to Godhead. Such pure devotees are better known as vice-lords according to revealed scriptures. The sincere disciple of the pure devotee considers the spiritual master equal to the Lord, but always considers himself to be a humble servant of the servant of the Lord. This is the pure devotional path
In chatanya charit chetanay prabhu nai kha hai mai apna senapati bhejoga jo sabka udhar karega
Prabhupad said mai 10,000years tak dharti par rahonga jab tak har ek jeev atma ko golok na pachado itna bada sakalp kia hai unhone
Woh alive hai agar aap unko mano toh woh fully gudied kartey hai apne devotee ko
He is alive because he is commander of chatany prabhu (krishna)
He is immortal
Beautiful class hari bol 🙌🙌
Jaya shrila prabhupada 🙌🙌🙌
Wonderful 👏. Keshav Anand Prabhu ki Jai 🙂🙏
He himself has interest in becoming a guru one day .
Stick to the simple fact . Prabhupad never appointed any Diksha guru but only shiksha guru .
Only when prabhupad orders . This podcaster is not telling the truth .
Hare Krishna ,Right Answer....
Hare Karishna Prabhu ji
Prabhupad ji ke 1 letter me mene padha hai ki prabhupad ji ne kaha tha ki jab me kahunga tab aap guru banege. Lekin prabhupad ji ne kisi ko nahi banaya . Tamal krishna maharaj ji ne bhi mayapur ke lecture me kaha hai ki prabhupad ji ne hamme se kisi ko diksha guru nahi banaya hai. Or ritvik me esa nahi bolte hain ki isckon me koi pure bhakt nahi hai
You're right prabhuji
Puri maharaj too told that this ritvik system is mayavad..
Beleive what ever you want but but ritvik system is bonafide. Prabhupada said that ritvik system should follow.. futher and we never say about that there are not a single pure devotees......... although prabhupad never say anything that not related to our scriptures .. it'means ritvik is bonafide and right. Now what you want say anything say we ritvik do not care . All we care about truth. Jai Srila Prabhupada ✨
If you read all the prabhupada's books this video is not more then THE KAPIL SHARMA SHOW.
Who had killed sulochana dasa prabhu, who first raised this issue.... during prabhupadhas time, all devotees were happy, forget about death. How did we found 12 dead bodies in New vrindhavan?Lila by pure devotee!?
thankyou
Hare Krishna..
Those who are following instructions of pure devotee Srila Prabhupada can never be mayavadis
"There are two ways of association-by vāṇī and by vapuḥ. Vāṇī means words, and vapuḥ means physical presence. Physical presence is sometimes appreciable and sometimes not, but vāṇī continues to exist eternally. Therefore we must take advantage of the vāṇī, not the physical presence."
- Srila Prabhupada, Bombay , 10/11/1974
Take advantage of vani of Srila Prabhupada, and follow his orders and surrender to SP's disciple
Shiksha Guru and diksha Guru both should be a uttama adhikari pure devotee
Who will decide who is a pure devotee?
A pure devotee is a Mahabhagvat ,liberated soul WHO COMES FROM KRISHNA LOKA AND COMES THROUGH PARAMAPARA . Srimad Bhagvatam (1.1.15) The pure devotees are honoured by the names of the PRABHUPADA OR VISNUPADA . These are the 3 main qualifications. One should be qualified to become Diksa guru It’s not up to us , the fallen souls to decide or choose the pure devotee
@@gopeshwardasa have a visit before going to fall from truth the system the instructions the guidance shrilaprabhupad gave to anybody if anybody accepts he accepts is a pure devotee as my experience as of mine ! Shrilaprabhupad said if I disappeared or die immediately you all will manage*** the devotees because they are disciple of shrilaprabhupad guru they know they have to spread knowledge and realization of truth of bhagwan shri krishna chaitanya mahaprabhu that is a guru even a small person is , also a guru gbc is just a devotee senior who takes care if vaishnav is going well in progress or not like Radhanath swami is truely great vaishnav sincere vaishnava leader following and had sincere disciple of shrilaprabhupad gopal krishna goswami Maharaj is such huge vaishnava and practicing a great guru dev himself only a devotee can see ! Jayapataka swami Maharaj is a such huge devotee leader practicing gurudev shrilaprabhupad on giving the knowledge and message to whole world !
@@gopeshwardasa definitely not you
@@spiritsoul4075 pure devotee means who can be a nitya sidha, Sadhna sidha, kripa sidha all three can be a pure devotee
Hare krishna prabhu ji, thanks for enlightening.
Your Pure devotees sent 300 gundas to Bangalore temple... will a pure devotee does that?
Plz referred the original documents. Don't follow blindly. In iskcon devotees are using Prabhupada statements as they need. Just they want be guru .
Hare Krishna prabhu ji Dandvat Pranam ji 🙏🙏🙏
Prabhupada is the last Acharya of Iskcon . That's all
Ekdum sahi baat hai prbhuji
Not acharya.... last Diksha guru...
Acharya means Guru... So shiksha acharya must be there
It's completely your own speculation. Fell so sad about you.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare hare hare Rama hare Rama Rama Rama hare hare 🙏🙏🙏
Prabhuji, talking about ritvisim.. didn't take name of 9th July 1977 letter which is the basis...Jai 💐💐🙏
Its in Part 2
Prabhuji fir unn logo ka kya jo galti se Ritvik philosophy follow kar leta hai.
And how to understand who is from ISKCON and who is from RITVIK philosophy. Pls reply
Aapko unke ek do class se samajh aa jayga when they will address Prabhupad as Gurudeva.
For example: In ISKCON during kirtan we say Jaya Jaya Gurudev Gurudev Gurudev Jaya Gurudev whereas ritviks sings: Jaya Jaya Gurudev Prabhupad, Gurudev Prabhupad.
Whenever they talk about spiritual master, they address Prabhupad.
In ISKCON, we don't do that. We say Prabhupad as JagatGuru and Founder Acharya.
These small small things you can note.
Srila Prabhupada sudh bhakt hai woh guru hai unhone kabhi kisiko diksha Dene ke liye nahi bola.Hare krishna
Have you not read The Final Order? Ritwik term was coined by Prabhupada himself. He has appointed ritwiks even when he was physically there.
हर हर महादेव,
किबा विप्र, किबा न्यासी, शुद्र केने नय |
येइ कृष्णतत्त्ववेत्ता, सेइ ‘गुरु’ हय ||
“कोई व्यक्ति चाहे वह विप्र (वैदिक ज्ञान में दक्ष) हो, निम्न जाति में जन्मा शुद्र हो या कि संन्यासी, यदि कृष्ण के विज्ञान में दक्ष (कृष्णतत्त्ववेत्ता) है तो वह यथार्थ प्रामाणिक गुरु है |” (चैतन्य-चरितामृत, मध्य ८.१२८) | अतः कृष्णतत्त्ववेत्ता हुए बिना कोई भी प्रामाणिक गुरु नहीं हो सकता | वैदिक साहित्य में भी कहा गया है -
षट्कर्मनिपुणो विप्रो मन्त्रतन्त्रविशारदः |
अवैष्णवो गुरुर्न स्याद् वैष्णवः श्र्वपचो गुरुः ||
“विद्वान ब्राह्मण, भले ही वह सम्पूर्ण वैदिक ज्ञान में पारंगत क्यों न हो, यदि वह वैष्णव नहीं है या कृष्णभावनामृत में दक्ष नहीं है तो गुरु बनने का पात्र नहीं है | किन्तु शुद्र, यदि वह वैष्णव या कृष्णभक्त है तो गुरु बन सकता है |” (पद्मपुराण)
आपके लिए फोटो है तो पूजा क्यु करते हो प्रभु पाद जी की
Hare Krishna🙏🙏❤❤ 📿
Hare krishna 🙏dr a ananad Keshav Prabhu ji ki Jai Ho 🙏
50.00 mins : A student of 3rd year mbbs is sometimes called as doctor because he soon will become a doctor, but we don't allow the 3rd year doctors to practice as mbbs doctors or treat patients. 50 mins - said jo teachings ko follow kr rha h wo bhi Mahabhagavad hi hai *kyuki jldi hi wo bhi Mahabhagavad ban jaiga* " is like calling the 3rd year mbbs student, doctor. But as we can't allow him to practise as mbbs doc , unless one becomes Mahabhagavad, how can he give diksha?!?
Yeh iskon wale guru abagya karr rahein hai, mana ki hamare gurudev ko unke gurudev bhaktivedanta saraswati maharaaj ne kahi batake nhi gaya ki aap guru bano lekin prabhupad ne toh mentioned karke gaya hai ki aap sav siksha guru bano diksha guru full-time main hi rahunga, toh aap lok kaise diksha guru ban sakte hai.......
Well said prabhu. They don’t know the qualifications of Mahabhagavat and manufacturing their ideas .
@@santashsaow265 also bhaktisiddhanta maharaj said there will be a self effulgent acarya but srila prabhupada didn't say anything like that
Hare krishna ... Prabhuji Dandwat Pranaam Srila Prabhupada ki Jai... Achha ghumaya h prabhuji aapne... But aap direct baat karo na... Prabhupada says very clearly that no one can become acharya if he is not authorised by preceding acharya.. and yes Prabhupada has accepted that my guru maharaj ordered me to become acharya... And where Prabhupada authorised anyone to take initiation letter.. and aapko pta bhi nhi h ki aap bol rhe ho ritivk Wale narak jaayenge.. aapko thodi Sharm aani chahiye... I know this is offence to say this to Vaishnav... And who says in iskcon there is no pure devotee, no, pure devotee h wnha pe bhi... But where Prabhupada authorised to anyone to become diksha guru... Prabhupad ne clearly bola tha ki when I make you regular guru u become regular guru.. but Prabhupada ne koi regular guru appoint nhi kiya... Balki Prabhupada ji ne 11 Ritvik banaye the aur henceforth likha tha....
Search for July 9th letter by HDG ACBSP
आचार्य प्रशांत जी ये सब नहीं मानते। प्रशांत जी कहते हैं की ये सब ढोंग और पाखंड है।। आचार्य प्रशांत जी अपनी विद्वत्ता की हुंकार भरते हैं और खुले आम चुनौती देते हैं। शास्त्रार्थ के लिए।
अद्वैत ही सत्य है बाकी सब मनोरंजन के तरीके हैं।
Aapke lecture se PTA chlta h ki aap Prbhupad ko jivit nhi mante.. aapka manna h agr aaj Prbhupad physically present honge to hi aaj b diksha guru hote. Arre aapne to Prbhupad ko Dead hi man liya.. to es anusar hm Krishna bhgvan ki photo me or arch vigrh k Roop me Pooja krte h..to bhgvan b present nhi h...
gud point 🤭
Prabhupada ji guru rup Mai hamare dil me hai per we asal sharir chodne ke baad golok dham chale gaye, bhagvan to anshi hai har taraf hai per unka bhakt ansh hai o to her taraf nahi ho sakta
Hare Krishna Prabhu Dandwats....if I take diksha from a guru who falls down and it doesn't come out in public then who will take responsibility to take us back to Krishna?
Krsna himself would do🙏
All this confusion in our Iskcon because we are not ready to follow direct instructions of Srila Prabhupada.
In 1974 prabhupada started rithvik initiation and just before his departure he gave his final order stating that this system of initiation to be continued in future. That's absolutely clear!! Why GBC making it so complicated??
Vah prabhu ji kiya operation kiya hai
Hare Krishna Dandwat Pranam
Apko jo updesh karna hai kijiye parantu shabdon ki maryada to rakhiye..... Ye sab kya hai " Prabhupad bhi gaye kaam se " , " Prabhupad bhi aparadhi " , " Prabhupad bhi out " ...... Iss prakar ke vakyon ka prayog apko ek brahmachari hote hue shobha nahi deta..... Prabhupad apke koi dost yaar nahi hai jo iss prakar ke vakya unke naam ke sath ap bol rahe ho
It will be nice if english class...
hare krishna
Dandavat pranam🙏
Hare krishna prabhuji
acc to you so everyoone in iskcon is a pure devotee then why prabhupada appointment 11 'ritvik ' not as "gurus " in july 9 letter
Answer by Ritviks...
ruclips.net/video/grcqRmlJdnU/видео.html
Hare Krsnaaaaa!!!
Hare krsna!
If the present Gurus are pure then why did they edited Srila Prabhupada books. Praphupada never said to edit my books and distribute them he simply said just print and distribute my books. Second Srila Prabhupada always said no responsible position to women and women not to be Diksha Guru then why have the present Diksha Gurus given consent to female diksha gurus. As per shastras and as Srila Prabhupada said that a diksha guru can make you cross the material world to reach the spiritual world. The present Diksha Gurus are not following the prime instructions of Srila Prabhupada after he disappeared then how can they sit in the same capacity as Srila Prabhupada. There is Audio, video of Srila Prabhupada where he is clearly stating that Ritvik system to be followed after he disappears and there is written document signed by him authenticating it so where is the confusion. Just as you don't read the original books of Srila Prabhupada and have accepted the edited books and accepting female as diksha gurus similarly you also don't follow the direct instruction of Srila Prabhupada on the diksha process after his disappearance. A PURE DEVOTEE never disobeys the instructions of a Mahatma a self realized soul like Srila Prabhupada. This is the disease of the kaliyug. Srila Prabhupada always used to say that "DONT MANUFACTURE YOUR OWN WAY OF DOING DEVOTIONAL SERVICE" unfortunately we don't listen to such instructions. Would like to know what is your understanding.
Haribol
Sujoy Prabhu
Yes exactly even i was a blind believer of iskcon untill i saw the July 9th letter and got deep into it.. trust me most of the devotees have not seen this letter or heard the Room conversation they don't know anything about Ritvik initiation , It's very hidden and the GBC always labells Ritviks as agent of kali
Prof. O'Connell: Is it possible, Swāmījī, for a woman to be a guru in the line of disciplic succession?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Jāhnavā devī was---Nityānanda's wife. She became. If she is able to go to the highest perfection of life, why it is not possible to become guru? But, not so many. Actually one who has attained the perfection, she can become guru. But man or woman, unless one has attained the perfection... Yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā sei guru haya [Cc. Madhya 8.128]. The qualification of guru is that he must be fully cognizant of the science of Kṛṣṇa. Then he or she can become guru. Yei kṛṣṇa-tattva-vettā, sei guru haya. [break] In our material world, is it any prohibition that woman cannot become professor? If she is qualified, she can become professor. What is the wrong there? She must be qualified. That is the position. So similarly, if the woman understands Kṛṣṇa consciousness perfectly, she can become guru.
(Toronto June 18 1976 Interview with Professors O'Connell,Motilal,Shivarama)
You are 100% right VEDIC ASTROL… Hare Krishna prabhu
What is ritviks
HG Keshav Anand pr ji ki jaii
वो कभी नही बोलते हैं आप लोग ही बोलते हो की kun guru h
Hare Krishna..this is your self concocted idea that ritvik says that there is no pure devotee in iskcon...no, it is not correct..main reason is that Prabhupada established this system..we have to follow prabhupada
Nope
This is self made system
Hare Krishna, Where he established ? If he established Then A.C. Bhakti Vedanta Swami Srilla Prabhupada is deviating from the order of his guru maharaj Srilla Bhakti Sidhanta Swaraswati Prabhupada...
Hare Krishna...
And where AC. Bhakti vedanta prabhupada said or any other Acharya said , Vapu seva 0 importance, only vani seva ? In any lecture or purport you got this prabhu? Hare Krishna.... 🙏
Hare krishan prabhuji
Hkp
Pamho
Agtsp
Prabhupada never mentioned and declared anyone as Guru in Iskcon
Today innocent humans come to Iskcon only because of Srila Prabhupada.
Let give that credit to Prabhupada and accept him as Siksha + Diksha Guru
Requesting all devottes not to Defame Prahupada.
Iskcon is a huge society in front of HKM just like timigala... Even then it's afraid and discussions are going on... This itself is a big point.
When Srila Prabhupada allowed women into the altar for Deity worship adjusting Vedic principles according to time, place and circumstances, it's acceptable, but He leaving us with ritivik order is objected by whom? By two legged animals
This is my Narayana-astra for the Ritvik debate.
Ritviks are not able to give answer. Ofcourse they love to play with cherry picked quotes!
If Srila Prabhupada wants the ritvik system to go for eternity, why is there no such proof in his writing? Give me a clear statement!
Why would Srila Prabhupada neglect to mention something as important as this ritvik system in writing?
Why? Why? Why?
Any sane person should accept this fact that there is no such proof!
75-09-02.Omk Letter: Omkara
"Unless it is there from me in writing, there are so many things that “Prabhupada said.”
@@biren5445 kindly read 9th July letter and 28th may conversation fully
Hare Krishna
May 29th 2021,
1:21 pm
Hare Kṛṣṇa Prabhuji 🙏🏻
Why you commented date and time?
jaya
😮😮 37:25