Shadowhunters 3x18 REACTION; the pain coursing through me is unmatched.

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  • @SyahirahAriff
    @SyahirahAriff 5 месяцев назад +3

    16:39 I laugh so hard(in tears)🤣😭😭🤣 you're so funnyy😭

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  5 месяцев назад

      I’m so happy you are enjoying watching with me!! 🩶🩶

  • @brandih7518
    @brandih7518 Год назад +15

    ‘Everyone is so happy, I hate it’ ‘it can’t Possibly get worse’ we tried to warn you 🫣 We all knew Alec would do anything for magnus especially after the breakdown he had the other night , the way Alec did it though was really very convincing, they already had fights about past lovers. Magnus has always thought he was Too much for people and doesn’t want to burden them and the fact that he actually started to beg Alec to just stay with him 🥹. He even said to Maryse ‘ I don’t know what I’d do with him’ it’s soo bittersweet because Alec is doing what he thinks is best because I think he’s always had that thought in the back of his head that he while magnus is his love ], that he wasn’t as special to him so he’s just like he’s gonna be okay but little does he know and with magnus has now has had two breakdowns over not having his magic and Alec thinks what asmodeus is true, he fine right now but even magnus said he’s never gonna be happy again without his magic and then threw out that quit of I’m mundane just like you wanted so it’s not a real stretch to assume that what asmodeus is saying is gonna come true, I think alec trying to be cold and not make eye contact is for both of their sake’s because if alec actually makes full on eye contact he’s not gonna be able to do it and I think magnus will automatically know something is up, It’s also just so sad because now in Magnus’s eyes he’s lost everything, literally everything. His title, his home and now Alec, he has no idea. Watch out for asmodeus the next episode, he’s now topside and knows that magnus is vulnerable and is gonna be heartbroken…..remember the past times he’s talked about his father……all I’m gonna say 😬as for the next episode, it’s named Aku Cinta Kamu which is Indonesian for “I Love You” so it’s all down hill from here lol sorry 🙃

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +4

      right, the fact that Alec was being so cold about it- ugh, I knew he had to, otherwise he would never be able to get it done, but it pained me, especially with magnus begging him to stay and him just responding that he can't. omg, I'll be sobbing for eternity over them, I can feel it in my bones 😭

  • @youraveragewarlock923
    @youraveragewarlock923 Год назад +11

    Okay yeah, this episode is RIDICULOUSLY painful. But you have to hand it to their acting, it was incredible. My formatting will continue to be off for these next few days because again, I don't have access to my computer while I'm in Spain. So here we go! 1.) This is kind of a random fact, but in the books, Asmodeus actually doesn't look fully human. His skin is very pale, he doesn't have hair, just vines of thorns coming from his head, and his eyes are cat eyes. I assumed they casted Jack because of his resemblance to Harry (in the sense that they both have similar expressions, and stockier builds), but in the books, Magnus actually looked very similar to his mom, instead of Asmodeus. The only main characteristic they share is their eyes,.which in the show, they both have glamoured (something not in common with the books). 2.) Simon says all Warlocks have an animal feature as a mark, that's not necessarily true. Ragnor's green skin, and Cat and Max's blue skin are not features of an animal. Neither are the purple eyes Malcom had, and the blue hair two other warlocks had in the books. It just so happens that the most common marks are animal marks. Wings, animal eyes, animal ears, and horns all are shared with animals. Also, no warlock has to have ONE mark. They can have several. The most we know a warlock having is four. Ragnor has green skin, white hair, an extra set of knuckles, and white horns. Cat has two, Max has three, and Magnus has two (in the books he has cat eyes, and he doesn't have a belly button). Very few characters have just one, but an example is a warlock named Hypatia Vex, who has stars for pupils. 3.) Writing this knowing you've seen 3x20... In the books, this second break up never happens. Magnus and Alec broke up once. At the epilogue of the fifth book, and they got back together at the end of the sixth, after a confrontation with Asmodeus. They lived a happy life together from then on. 4.) The song that plays in the background of the break up is Fear of the Water by Syml 5.) Maia said Jorda could be her bata because that's what Simon called the second in command post back in season 2 (or maybe 3a, I can't remember). 6.) Not a book-to-screen fact but I your texts after the break up were so funny. I THOUGHT YOU WERE JOKING WHEN YOU TOLD ME YOU ACTUALLY HAD TO GO INTO TIME OUT🤣. Also, you don't hate us. You adore us ☺️

  • @simsimme1799
    @simsimme1799 Год назад +5

    alec: ‘it’s the kind of pain he can recover from’
    izzy: ‘but will you be able to recover?’
    me: NEVER

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +2

      omg right!? like I'm certainly NOT recovering 😭

  • @remytherat2175
    @remytherat2175 Год назад +1

    the way this absolutely wrecked me when I first saw it 😭 I canttttt girllll I feel you watching this

  • @vivd8187
    @vivd8187 Год назад +7

    This episode got me down on my knees.
    Before I talk about this episode, I have to say that this episode was supposed to be released around Halloween, hence it is Halloween themed, but the show's cancellation back in June of 2018 pushed back the episode's airing to April of 2019.
    As for the episode, I love that they bring in Becky back and we got to see some cute Lewis moments and Becky meeting Izzy for the first time and immediately see the chemistry between the two.
    I love Jack Yang acting for Asdomeous here! This episode is so cruel for Malec's storyline. Every time I rewatch this episode, I notice more details which makes me sob harder!
    Also, EVIL CLARY! Woohoo!
    Luke and Maryse's relationship is happening!
    "Everyone is so happy and go lucky... makes me sick" lol don't worry they won't be happy for long 😭
    Alec's change of heart of immortality pains me here because in 3x05 he didn't like the thought of Magnus forgetting him and moving on while here he cares for Magnus so much that he wants for Magnus to move on and recover 😪
    Fact: The Dervick Queen in the scene where Alec and Jace was attacking it was actually a stunt guy wearing a black bodysuit with a stick ontop of his head with a tennis ball on it wiggling around. It was hard to film because it was hard to be serious and Dom kept looking at the wrong face (he looked at the stunt guy's face instead of the tennis ball).
    I think the spark that Magnus has will never go out and even if it does, I am pretty sure that Alec wouldn't care. The breakup scene is so painful.
    Sometimes I wish we can go back to the alternate episode in 1x10, so we can take a break from all this saddness.

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      this episode truly was just pain. the whole breakup and knowing it was coming and not wanting to come- ugh, I understand totally why Alec did it- but the whole situation is just bad all around.
      omg, I love the fact of them having trouble shooting that scene, so funny 🤣

  • @kylab3994
    @kylab3994 Год назад +7

    we love it here 😈

  • @lenelovesbooks
    @lenelovesbooks Год назад +4

    You: I have not recovered yet.
    Me: And you will not recover... yet.
    The Lewis siblings own my heart.
    You: It is starting on a happy note. It will go down hill.
    Me: Oh honey, I am so glad that you learned.
    I love how you immediately knew that Alec was going to do it.... Our selfless king
    Love Izzy being the voice of reason.
    Becky is a legend.
    Dark side Clary arrived.
    Both Malec Break-Ups happened during a SYML Song.
    One scene in 3x20 will heal you (and break you again)

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад

      of course Alec was going to do it! my man was asking for advice knowing he was going to do it- my heartttt, it hurts 😭

  • @mitchmatt6002
    @mitchmatt6002 Год назад +1

    🫂🫂🫂 This still stings!! I know Alec 'needed' to be ruthless to get through the break up, but using Magnus' insecurities against him to do it and seeing his pained, desperate reaction will always HURT! Damn you, Asmodeus!

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      oh it hurt so bad, it still hurts if I think about it too long 🤣

  • @jocelyn9773
    @jocelyn9773 Год назад +5

    Alec breaks up with Magnus to save him breaks my heart so much 😭

  • @iris5326
    @iris5326 Год назад +1

    Oh my god, Alec and Magnus - that's so sad 😢
    Ryann, thank you for watching this with us 🌺🌺🌺🌺

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      thank you so much for watching with me and being here to support the distress I'm currently going through! 😭

  • @Directioner514
    @Directioner514 Год назад +3

    The last and next few episodes are just pure suffering and i hate it i'm sorry😭🥹

  • @anjali0524
    @anjali0524 Год назад

    i fucking can't with these episodes, there wasn't one episode where i wasn't crying 😭

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      right!? they really said, here, go through PAIN. 😭

  • @doryinsanime6862
    @doryinsanime6862 Год назад

    I love your reaction.❤😂 I cried so much over Malec official break up like it’s Magnus’s father fault. Best Season 3 yes.

  • @Andreahabla
    @Andreahabla Год назад +1

    Okay, I had to put myself together to type this. I'm so sorry Ryann, but we totally tricked you into watching this painful show BUT hey it had its good moments while it lasted. Let's start with this thing:
    0:00 I kid you not I was so hesitant to press play because I knew I couldn't handle it
    0:15 "I'm not okay, I'm not recovered," she said before watching one of the most gutwrenching episodes left
    3:13 "Cause I'm expecting that the finale is happy" What if I tell you that they canceled the show before we got the finale they ended up shooting? I was in disbelief when I first found out that the last two episodes were shot as a way to wrap up all the madness that gave us 3B. So yes the finale would've been 3x20
    3:53 Becky, my child, I love you. She's the support Simon needed and I'm so glad they included her here after all that happened with Heidi
    5:13 Not Alec hiring a medium to communicate with a Prince of Edom, he's such a silly guy... There was a reason why Magnus chose to visit him in Edom and no vice-versa
    5:48 "And one he already regrets" I know that hit Alec really deep after witnessing Magnus' breakdown last night
    6:08 "End your relationship" We all agree that we weren't ready to hear those words, right? Right. That petition makes Asmodeus sound like a typical telenovela mother-in-law trying to manipulate the personal life of his son. mAYBE IT'S TIME TO CONTEMPLATE MURDER, I know you'll agree, Ryann
    6:22 "Magnus will never agree to it" "Don't give him a choice, in fact, Magnus can never know about our arrangement, or else the deal is off" I instantly shouted at the screen: "ALEC WHY DID YOU TRY TO PERSUADE THIS MAN? HE'S A DEMON" Of course, Asmodeus had to make it clear that Magnus could never know because the moment he finds out he's going to hate him
    7:04 "It couldn't be any worse!" DON'T SUMMON IT, we are lucky no one (and for no one, I refer to Magnus and Alec) has died.
    *Interlude for tears*
    Are you fine? No? Well, I'm sorry, but we have to keep going
    8:10 Remember when I asked you if you would support Alec even in his bad decisions? At least he's listening to different opinions before making that TERRIBLE decision. I'm mad at my man.
    9:05 We love to see a bonding/gossip moment between the future mother-and-son-in-law duo
    10:09 "Magnus lost his magic because of me" That was the thing I was talking about yesterday. Alec thinks that if Magnus could do that big of a sacrifice for his well-being then he must consider and do the same for him. The thing is that Magnus values Alec and his love for him as much as he does his magic. And I do not think Alec realizes (not here at least) Magnus couldn't live without either of them
    10:42 "But what about you?" THAT'S ALSO MY QUESTION, IZZY, KNOCK OUT YOUR BROTHER AND MAKE HIM COME TO HIS SENSES
    11:08 "We haven't gotten any official Sizzy" Welcome to Delusion, we have meetings all afternoons on week-days, we organize daily barbecues and discuss how they could possibly drag them to the end of the show :D Also I agree with your priorities, I think we share a common list: 1. Getting hit by the Malec bus (that could mean both good and bad news) 2. Longing for the Sizzy train 3. Cheering for Maryse and Luke 4. Hoping that my girls Helen and Aline appear again 5. Trying to catch up with whatever is happening with Clace not that I care a lot-I mean what
    11:52 "I don't know what would I do without your son" Us knowing what's coming really makes those words 150% more painful. Don't need your heart? C'mon and watch Shadowhunters, it'll be fun :)
    12:11 YES THE SIZZY CHEMISTRY NEVER LEFT
    13:11 FIVE ARROWS AT ONCE? h o t. I mean-I'm not over the fact that this man plans to continue that mad deal with Daddy Dearest, but I can admit when he does something hot and this one is HOT. Also I hope you'll notice by now that I tried to do this commentary a lot more lighthearted for both of our mental health hahan't
    14:10 THAT SIZZY EYE CONTACT, we are surviving on crumbs. LITERAL CRUMBS
    14:43 This was a painful episode to edit, wasn't it? This scene had me bawling because it's obvious Alec doesn't want to be the one inflicting pain on Magnus, he even avoids eye contact, and I hate that he had to recur to that shitty solution in order to restore his magic aka his happiness, but what he doesn't realize is that he IS also part of his happiness. UGH. Girl, I hate the second break-up trope, I despise it with all my soul because at times it feels like a cheap way to create more drama. AND WELL IT ACCOMPLISHED TO MAKE ME SUFFER. I'm fine, I'm totally fine.
    15:13 Alec confronts him with his own words just to confirm that he's doing the right thing. Magnus IS in pain but he doesn't think that Alec has the obligation to fix him. The shiver in Alec's voice as he says "then what am I supposed to do?" and THEN THE PLEADING,,, scratch my last words I am not fine.
    16:24 "Stay with me, okay? Stay with me" What did I tell you? WHAT DID I TELL YOU RYANN? Those parallels are going to be the death of me. It's like they said "Oh did you think the 1st breakup was painful? Hold my pen, y'all are not ready for the 2nd one".
    You are all invited to my funeral, bring purple flowers
    Thank you for staying with us during all this time and sorry for the heartbreak but we warned you. I totally understand you, I also get really attached and it's usually with the secondary couple both in shows and books. It happened to me with Wesper, before it happened to me with Malec, and even before that with Klaine. That's why I'm so worried that in S&B with Wesper being now a couple-they might have them break up a couple of times and I'm not ready for that. Where does the obsession with 2nd breakups come from? From where????
    I apologize for the massive message, but this and the next episode really send me into a spiral, it wasn't pretty when it aired and it isn't now. I send lots of hugs, I need to rest 💜💜💜💜💜

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      I do have to say, as stated in a different comment, I do still fully support Alec in all his decisions 🫢 always and forever LMAO. it's horrible, but the main thing here is that I can REALLY see Alec's side of things because I think I would do the same thing in his position, we are the same 🤣 it's so bad and so painful, but he feels like this is the best thing for magnus!
      I love your comments so much, they are so funny. I love the delusion meetings, say less 🤣 also this episode was SO HARD to edit omg.
      omg, the break in my man's voice when he said 'THEN WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO' was sending me in the worst way
      have you read Six of Crows and Crooked Kingdom!? bc the fact that the literal LOVES OF MY LIFE are already together is going to make for THE BUMPIEST ride if we get that spin off, no lie. I will be checked into a hospital. 😭

    • @Andreahabla
      @Andreahabla Год назад

      @@ryannrodkey5669 Confession time:
      1. After I watched this episode like 4 years ago I went to write an one-shot of a scene after the Malec breakup. I love both of them that's why I like to put myself on both of their shoes and when someone fucks up I like to call them out. But I get where you are coming from 💜
      2. HAVE I READ SoC AND CK??? YESSSSS. A friend of my recommended me those books and it was the best thing I've read in the year. Before watching the tv show we read SoC, CK and S&B, then we watched S1 and read S&S, R&R and KoS, finally we watched S2 and read RoW (and died a little everytime Nina brought her memories in Ketterdam with the crows). So yes. I'm so worry for Wesper because them as a couple now implies to breaking points into their relationship: the Van Eck reveal AND the Kuwei kiss :)))) It's gonna be FUN

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      okay okay, love that- writing slay
      next- OMGOMGOMG YES. they will absolutely be having issues if they don't break up which is going to shatter me. the emotional attachment I have to wylan is honestly, maybe a tad bit concerning, and it's not going to be good for me. also- the whole end of SoC with the boat and Jesper thinking Wylan is on it!? HOLD ME.

    • @Andreahabla
      @Andreahabla Год назад

      @@ryannrodkey5669 THAT SCENE IS GONNA BE SO EPIC AND PAINFUL. Like Jesper already being hurt because his boyfriend have been hiding his identity from him (The same boyfriend who confronted him about his Grisha powers) but also the REALIZATION that he can't bare the thought of losing him because-guess what? He loves him. MHMHMHMMMM if Shadowhunters didn't ended me all those years ago, that SoC spin-off is gonna kill me for sure :)))))

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      RIGHT!? I am simply not ready for the destruction that will cause me.

  • @rebeccalambert3240
    @rebeccalambert3240 Год назад +1

    At last, the heartbreak. I am so sorry xD. Virtual hugs, lol, and a new supply of tissues.
    Anyway! Remember when I said you might not always agree with Alec's decisions?
    . . . Yeah.
    Okay, I watched this earlier today, but I finally have the Words In My Head to comment lol.
    First of all! Clary o.o. Evil Clary era is upon us 👀. Poor Jace though, emotionally but also because she knocked him out xD. And uh oh, she broke Jonathan out. Honestly like, we didn't want the Seelie to kill him and Clary, buuuut xd.
    Also, Jace and Alec fight!! As in fighting together lol!! We LOVE us some good parabatai fighting

    • @rebeccalambert3240
      @rebeccalambert3240 Год назад

      Lastly, I just HAVE to talk about the acting. Oh my gosh. Everyone was great, of course, but I just. Harry Shum Jr and Matthew Daddario. We do not DESERVE them. They put everything into that performance, into the whole episode honestly, and I just thank them for that. The pain throughout the whole thing, but in that last scene especially, just feels so real. They don't even have to say anything, barely do anything, you can just feel the sadness radiating off them. Like Alec, during the breakup, trying to pull back and hide it from Magnus but just so, so distraught. Oh my gosh, I can't, they're just amazing

    • @rebeccalambert3240
      @rebeccalambert3240 Год назад

      Alright I'm pretty sure it actually has been an hour now xD. And seriously, this is WAY long, I did not mean for it to be that long xd. I just freaked out about them so much lol, whoops. Just making it perfectly clear that exceeding the RUclips character count was not my intention XD.

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +1

      okay, I'm going to just start with saying, yes to literally EVERYTHING. I can't do anything but wholeheartedly agree.
      I am nothing if not the largest Alec apologist to possibly ever walk the planet 🤣 I do completely see people who maybe don't like his character or him as much, completely hate him after this, which makes me sad because I do feel like this was not something that is out of left field for someone wanting the best for their significant other. I understand why he did it, so I simply can't be angry with him. the 'then what am I supposed to do...?' CRIMINAL. that's gonna send me to the hospital. I can't handle it.
      how about we skip the hand holding and YOU JUST HOLD ME 😭 the acting was AMAZING, overall, this episode was just phenomenal even if it was PAIN.

    • @rebeccalambert3240
      @rebeccalambert3240 Год назад

      @@ryannrodkey5669 yes exactly, I totally understand why he's doing it. Also don't worry here's a virtual hold xd

  • @deneevagarner-belcher5784
    @deneevagarner-belcher5784 Год назад +2

    WARNING! WARNING! Emotional Overload! Emotional Overload!!! Where were your box of tissues? I tried to warn you.......maybe "rough" wasn't a strong enough description of the next couple episodes. Breathe, just breathe

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад

      tissues weren't in the budget 🤣 they should've been though, the tears are flowing!

    • @deneevagarner-belcher5784
      @deneevagarner-belcher5784 Год назад

      That's an investment you're gonna need, should we send donations🤣🤣. Cause I'm pretty sure next couple episodes you're gonna need a moment a two.

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад

      This show really went high speed in the emotional department huh? 😭
      Maybe donations for THERAPY after this 🤣

    • @deneevagarner-belcher5784
      @deneevagarner-belcher5784 Год назад

      @@ryannrodkey5669 lol I'll start a collection plate for you

  • @allysunshines
    @allysunshines Год назад +2

    I have lots to say about this ep, oh this ep hurts so much though malec is the best ship on the show the writers put them through it
    let’s get clary & them out of the way first, of course everyone was too happy thinking we could get the rune off clary just that easily, also izzy making the formula and stuff she’s such a smart queen love that but of course eventually jonathan would get to clary before they could stop it why would anything be easy for us, though kat looks hot with the demon eyes ngl 👀 guess she’s in her dark era now
    seeing magnus and maryse be friendly and gossip and be so happy together and seeing magnus learn from her was so great to see considering where they started in s1 I adore them also the way magnus talked about “I don’t know what I would do without your son” oh no 🙃
    becky and simon / sizzy were the best part of this ep!!! I love simons relationship with becky and becky is so adorable with the shadow-world lol, also becky being sizzys number 1 shipper we stan, the way simon and izzy smile at each other help they’re so adorable, also the almost kiss!! & simon being so awkward oh I screamed I love them so much 🥺 I’m so mad they got interrupted
    jordan and maia are v cute too tbh
    to this hardest part of this ep, malec hurt me so bad this episode I mean so bad 😭💔 I know you as an alec stan are gonna hate this but I really was upset alec didn’t consult magnus at all and just talk to magnus about what happened the night before and what to do but instead went behind his back, we need better communication yall, I can’t support alec with this, magnus would not want this at all, he loves alec so so much, like this ep is probably the only time I was mad at alec (yes I know I’m in the minority don’t kill me alec stans😭), I know this hurts him a lot too but all of this could’ve been avoided if alec had talked to magnus and the ending scene man I teared up but I held in the tears this time I debated skipping it but I had to see your reaction, I can’t believe alec said those things to magnus, knowing how small and useless he feels without his magic and how low his self esteem is rn, magnus’s reaction hurts he deserves the world, and I think with alec by his side he could’ve made it through without his magic. magnus saying he basically has lost everything and seeing him beg alec to stay crushed my heart he didn’t deserve this.
    also that poor warlock getting murdered and now stupid asmodeus is out of edom great 🙄😭
    you’re defeated look and saying you hate us made me laugh so much I’m sorry 🤣😭 but just hang in there there’s so much more coming that you don’t know about yet

    • @Andreahabla
      @Andreahabla Год назад +1

      I love Alec with my heart and soul but I was also so mad at him, I wanted to chain him into a chair to give him time to think. My man's brain cells were on vacation

    • @allysunshines
      @allysunshines Год назад +1

      @@Andreahabla finally someone who agrees 😭, it wasn’t selfless what alec did all that accomplished was making them both miserable even if magnus got his magic back his heart is broken

    • @Andreahabla
      @Andreahabla Год назад +1

      @@allysunshines the thing is that I absolutely despise the 2nd breakup trope, because it always ends up damaging the characterization of one of the people involved in the relationship (it could be cheating, going behind their backs or simply miscommunication) only for the sake of drama 😩😔

    • @allysunshines
      @allysunshines Год назад +1

      @@Andreahabla agreed! I wasn’t real mad at alec since I knew it would get resolved quick at the end of the season but still other writers have done this a lot in other shows as well

    • @ryannrodkey5669
      @ryannrodkey5669  Год назад +3

      okay, I for sure see where you're coming from, and you guessed it, as much as it pains me that this happened, I still fully support all of Alec's rights and wrongs, the love is strong 🤣
      hear me out though because I also love Magnus and he didn't deserve this of course! buttttttttt- we have multiple times where magnus tells Alec that magic basically means everything to him- in the hospital, Alec literally asks if it's worth dying for, basically has to ask him twice because the silence says everything and then he says maybe. then we have the failed proposal where he is very upset regarding the loss of magic, understandably of course, but he snaps at Alec when he says he only ever wanted him to be happy and says he just wants to help, of course magnus is like you can't, there's nothing you can do. we find out later that magnus doesn't want to be a burden, which I get, but also, in Alec's eyes the person he loves has basically said that he would rather not be here without magic and that there's nothing that he can do to make it better or help at all.
      also Alec knows if he went to magnus, magnus would tell him not to do it right? but Alec now knows magnus is in immense pain without his magic, to me, it makes sense he would literally do anything to get magnus his magic back in order to keep him alive and happy, with or without Alec. that's my feelings on the matter anyone. plus, we all know I'm biased, buttttt