JAMES ISLAND BATTLE - GLORY - REMASTERED MASSACHUSETTS 54TH INFANTRY SEES ACTION DENZEL MORGAN
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- From the Academy-Award winning film, Glory - This is the moment the Massachusetts 54th Colored Infantry had been waiting for... to see real action against their enemies. After spending months training, the 54th saw themselves subjected to manual labor and performing immoral tasks against civilians, Col. Robert Gould Shaw forced the hand of his commanding general who finally issued orders for the men of the 54th to see action.
The Battle of James Island. The 54th relieve a regiment of white Union soldiers... The Rebels send their cavalry in an attempt to mop up the retreating Unions soldiers, but instead are met with a hail of bullets from the 54th who arrived in time to relieve their comrades. All that training paid off...
The Confederate cavalry turn back after getting decimated, and the Rebel infantry advances. This is the moment the men of the 54th have been waiting for and the anticipation is palpable. As the 54th see the Rebel infantry advance and fire, the tension mounts as some men of the 54th fall. After trading a round of volleys, the two sides rush at each other for hand-to-hand combat with fixed bayonets.
In a prior scene during basic training, Col. Shaw asked Jupiter Sharts whether he had ever killed a man. When Jupiter replied no, Col., Shaw had him fire and reload while firing his pistol. Col. Shaw repeatedly shouted "faster!" and Jupiter nervously tried to reload his musket while the pistol was fired. Racked by the noise of the pistol and the stress of Col. Shaw's command, Jupiter fumbles with his musket and eventually freezes due to the pressure and intensity. Col. Shaw then instructs Maj. Forbes to train them properly explaining that a well trained man can get off three well-aimed shots in under one minute. This training served useful when a Rebel soldiers ran towards Jupiter who barely had enough time to reload and fire at his enemy, killing him.
According to Civil War historians, such close-quarter hand-to-hand fighting like this scene depicts was rare and did not occur in this Battle, but it sure makes for a tense scene.
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The musket volleys always give me goosebumps. The guys that fought in the Civil War had big, brass balls. That is terrifying.
Given on how close they were. Realistically speaking the battle would not be that close to exchange volleys with one another. Because, otherwise both lines would've been massacred.
@@Starfleet8555 This is true but you know directors always have to make things look more dramatic. Unless they are making a proper documentary ( which is rare these days) they usually are not going for realism.
@@Starfleet8555 Yeah, true, but whether it's 10 yards or 100 yards, I wouldn't want to stand in a line across from the enemy line and fire into each other. I am aware that a lot of time that's not how it went down, with trenches and breastworks etc, but there were many times where infantry brigades were maneuvering and ran into each other and it became a showdown.
The courage it takes to stand and wait for volley fire < the courage it takes to run into automatic fire
@@codyking4848 or geting hit with canister shot from a canon hiting your line soldeirs described as see 10 guys disapear in a red mist
Two days later, Colonel Shaw and 245 of his men killed, 880 wounded and 389 missing/captured at Fort Wagner. The Regiment was considered as one of the most celebrated Regiments of the Civil War. Salute to Colonel Shaw and his men!
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Most celebrated regiments? A notable regiment because it was one of the first colored regiments. But the 54th isn't on the same level in honors and achievements as the 1st Minnesota, 5th New Hampshire, or any of the Iron Brigade regiments. The western theater 47th Ohio won more medals of honor than anyone else (and won them the hard way). Ironically, the 54th get attention for the color of their skin not for their achievements.
@@jameshetu6885Bearing in mind that the war was, principally, fought to end slavery, that African Americans should have been allowed to fight at all, and to fight so well, was something worthy of the attention it garnered.
@@danzel1157 you’re missing the point. The original comment stated that “The Regiment was considered as one of the most celebrated Regiments of the Civil War.”
While today we may celebrate the 54th Massachusetts for what they represented, back then they did not and they certainly were not “the most celebrated”. That honor going to some of the regiments I listed.
Your comment is a product of hindsight which of course has “20/20 vision”.
Even the part about the war being fought to end slavery is “20/20” hindsight. As late as 1863, Lincoln hImself was telling people that he would accept slavery in the south, if that was what it took for Reunification of the country and an end to the war. At the start of the war, only a small minority wanted to end slavery, primarily focused in the New England states. Much of the Midwest did not, and the border states of Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland actually had large numbers of slaves themselves. Of course “Honest” Abe may have been lying (even that nickname is 20/20 hindsight or even plain myth, he was a pretty slick politician in reality).
The goals of the war shifted later on as the struggle go worse. The emancipation proclamation was actual designed to aid the war effort, and only freed slaves that were not in lands controlled by the United States government. Later on, the war began so extensive and costly that the Union couldn’t let the South rejoin with no consequences. Those terms were no longer acceptable after so many men had been killed or wounded. If they had come that far, they might as well finish the job and reconstruct the south, which included abolishing slavery.
@@jameshetu6885 The 54th were celebrated later more so than at the time, so what? Does it really matter? Their achievements represent a huge watershed, especially at a time when arming African Americans was considered controversial. They fought hard too, albeit not the most celebrated for doing so. It is a very significant event and is remembered generally more than the achievements of those regiments you listed, and for a legitimate reason.
Respect to Andre Braugher (Thomas) and his family. May he rest in peace...and with glory. (12.14.2023)
Yes very sad. he died from Lung Cancer. May he rest in peace. He was only 61. Still too young.
Amen!
I never realized how loaded the cast for this movie was! Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, Matthew Broderick, and Cary Elwes
Glory was the first Civil War movie that displayed the grit and brutality of the battles. The actual hand to hand combat was absolutely vicious. It was a true grapple and they showed it realistically.
@justinriley938 You're right. And, notice how little brutality both Gettysburg and Gods and Generals bring? Think about Matthew Brady's work. That's as much a part of civil war history, or of American history and I think you'll admit...we saw nothing like the pictures Brady took. One of his pictures I'll never unsee. A rebel with his whole torso/abdomen blown out, face bloated beyond recognition. Rifle shattered, probably by the same artillery round that gutted its owner; part of it laying across the remains of his chest, bayonet still fixed. Lee was onto something when he said, "It's good that war is so horrible otherwise, we'd grow too fond of it." and here we have Maxwell taking the horrible out of war. What's he at with that, one wonders? What would Lee himself have to logically conclude about R Maxwell's sanitizing the retelling of these battles?
There was very little hand to hand fighting actually, read about how many bayonet wounds there was and that should tell you, this was not accurate at all.
02:04
That reminds me of Sharpe: "What makes a good soldier? The ability to fire three aimed shots per minute, in any weather." Truly, at this distance, no matter how better you are trained, you have to spit more lead at the enemy than he can spit back at you.
Now thats soldierin
I see you're a person of culture. Mentioning Sharpe in an American Civil War film, that's soldiering
I just finished the 4th season of Sharpe. Awesome series!
@@boyscouts83712
A tip of the hat to you, fellow good cultured sir. **tips hat**
@Briselance and I tips my hat back at u good fellow for tip your hat at me
Watched this movie with my GF in college... she started weeping even before the battle began because she knew many would die. This was a great, timeless movie.
Really? Because for me, this scene is a joke:
- All those muskets firing and we don't see a single horse getting shot?
- And after firing, it's only a few corpses on the ground? Most if not all of those charging would be shredded.
- Also they never thought to reload right after firing their weapons? They had to wait for the enemy to be visible before they decided to reload?
- Also, again, a huge problem with these 19th century musket battles, all those guns firing and we hardly see any men dying? Are they firing it in the air? Are muskets really that short range?
- Oh and the biggest problem with movies involving guns... they keep charging instead of shooting!? Did nobody thought to reload their guns during those close combat situations, except for our plot armored protagonists?
Fudge this overrated movie.
@@cashewnuttel9054 good for you, Uber nerd.
@@TSK24692 Has it ever occurred to you that your girlfriend was crying because she didn't want to watch the movie? Maybe you were forcing her to stay against her will? Maybe she's uncomfortable with you now?
@@cashewnuttel9054 coming from someone who's never had a girlfriend due to his Uber nerdiness, lol
@@cashewnuttel9054 I'm sure girls would really love and appreciate your 7 point bulletin explanation on why they were wrong or why something sucked. I'm sure it drives them wild, lol.
I like how even after all the torment Tripp put Thomas through, a wounded Thomas still saves him.
@@jl893 we are an american army black white asian latin middle eastern native american this is what makes american the worlds greatest fighting machine ever put together from many we are one
...annnnd THIS is why you don't make enemies in your own camp, much less under your own tent flap.
One of the things the Army has always taught is that in battle, your fellow soldiers are your buddies, no matter how you feel about them personally. You may hate them in the barracks, but on the battlefield you fight to protect them and they fight to protect you. And you die for them if necessary.
@@kettch777 John 15:13 KJV
Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
@tomservo Yeah i always thought that part was ironic.
The part where they realize the Confederate infantry is coming through the smoke is well done. You can see the look of fear and "oh shoot" as the cavalry retreated. And just the savageness of hand-to-hand combat is hard to comprehend.
I think the hand to hand bayonet stabbing is exaggerated here. It was not as common as depicted here
@@googalacticgoo it still happened tho
@@luke8349 there are credible accounts. It was rare. The film shows several bayonet stabbings in a short battle sequence in what is a skirmish in comparison to the horrid bloodshed of major battles
There was absolutely no hand to hand combat in this engagement. The 54th didn't even win the engagement (Historically speaking)
@@googalacticgoo it is very over exaggerated in cinema, but the reason is because it makes good cinema
Good god at the way they would stand in formation and fire shots at each other. That had to be terrifying AF.
Least they would see it coming. Don’t fire till you see the whites of their eyes
Shit yeah
That was the mistake of the armies at this time, all they had as far as tactical reference was napoleon and crimea. But those tactics were used because muskets were so inaccurate that you needed a wall of fire to be effective. But I. The civil war they were rifles. Devastating.
Most tend to miss, since the engineering wasn’t nearly advanced as it is today
Hell the movie unintentionally shows it at 1:22
This was standard Napoleonic tactics of concentrating firepower. Also, most infantry used muskets that did not have the accuracy of long arms with rifled barrels
Such an underrated movie!! The 54th deserves the praise it gets.
They dont seem to make films with the same quality these days
Colonel Shaw should have been awarded the Medal of Honor. That is exactly what heroes look like
Unfortunately, this was a normal combat during the civil war, and with rank comes higher expectations. Same for the assault on the fort, and about a hundred other assaults that happened during the Civil War. Medals of Honor were awarded to Colonels for holding the flank of the whole army on a hill top with only 358 men at all costs, while two regiments larger than yours hammer you until you countercharge right in front of them when all the ammunition was gone.
They actually did give out a Medal of Honor for Fort Wagner in 1900. It was a black gentlemen named William Harvey Carney who recaptured the regiments battle standard and carried it back during the retreat despite being horribly injured.
What a honorable man👍
This movie does something no other civil war movie does.
Makes the line battle casualties felt.
You feel every man dropping as if you know him and his unique story.
Other movies you feel nothing when men fall from a volley.
Well said
3:19 The harsh training Shaw gave him prepared him for that moment.
Facts
Growing up I thought he was Racist for berating him to shoot faster. But it saved his life
Even though a commander or drillinstructor can be harsh. They are rately truly racist. War is a ugly business and the more you sweat in trsining the less youll bleed when it comes to it.
I like how as Captain Shaw is giving orders to his men, the confederates are following the same orders. Even though you cannot hear the confederate officer, both him and Captain Shaw are reading from the same playbook. Excellent filmmaking.
Both doctrines were based off the same teachings at West Point and other military schools. People forget Generals like Lee and Jackson were officers in the US army prior to the war
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 The generals were, most of the lower officers were amateurs. Like most of them, Shaw had never worn a uniform before April, 1861. Many of them were officers because they'd been elected by the men under their command. But they were using the same military manuals.
@@brucetucker4847 which is the point I made the doctrine of both armies is based off the same teachings
Colonel*
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One editing flaw... The 54th did not have bayonets attached during the exchange of volley fire. At no point did Col. Shaw give the order to fix bayonets, but off-screen after the order to "fire at will" and "charge" the bayonets appear fixed. Still... this is an intense battle.
Really
Bayonetta ruin the aim. Agreed. Probably did it for movie timing . . . The sceen is horrific. And also ty my captian my captain been going through my head all week long. The ship has weathered every wrack the prise we sought was won. My captain dear captain. Of all we wroght and suffered naught our dear captain lies dead. I'm sorry if I got it wrong. I'm pretty drunk and it's from memory. I love the poem. I'm gonna go drink some more. And I wish I had chicken wings
we are getting a close up of their rifle barrels, and the bayonets during the fighting scenes are rubber/plastic. a close up could show that. also it makes reloading a bit harder, with a real Bayonetta pulling out the ram rod wrong could slice open some of the actors hands, not worth the risk
Why the order to reload wasn't given immediately after repelling the cavalry is a mystery.
@@TheBunnyodeath Bayonet ruins the aim? Eh, training could solve that, right? Besides, why would you charge without fixed bayonets?
"Fire at Will!"
"Who's Will?"
Will: "hey, what the hell did I do?"
Shirley, you jest.
That's a Three Stooges thing!!! lol
Guarantee like 70% of the white dudes were William
I hope it's Will Smith
This scene is still one of the most satisfying things to watch. The fact that it was a real event in the civil war is even better. The 54th didnt just prove they could fight but also out fight and win against the enemy, sending the rebels running in humiliation and disaray. They wanted to fight, got the chance to prove they could, then outclassed their opponents in their first engagement against them. Inspiring 🌹
Wow - this scene was so ferocious.... Glory
This movie is such a tear jerker. Just thinking of some of Broderick and Washington’s scenes gets me vibing
I simply cannot watch this movie without crying. Even the clips.
The ending it's heartbreaking
Two things.
One: balls of steel to stand toe to toe at no range and maintain discipline while each side throws walls of lead at each other.
Two: moving forward with both sides with fixed bayonets.
Damn war is still hell, but ouch.
There was very little hand to hand combat (bayonet wounds) during the Civil War). Soldiers didn't want any part of being stabbed.
@@tomace4898 QUITE TRUE. European observers noted this caused higher casualty rates, with both sides repeatedly pounding each other with musket fire. Standard practice in professional armies should have been a couple of rounds and then to charge.
@@tomace4898 Well that and the increased range and accuracy of the rifled musket meant that most bayonet charges were stopped after the first volley.
It takes a great deal of courage for a soldier to stand there and reload while his opponent is about to fire back. Killing the enemy during WWI became more efficient and deadly. Thousands of soldiers would charge into no man's land with rifles and grenades while the other side opened up with continuous fire from a whole line of machine guns. Amazing that anyone survived this type of assault
👁️💣🖤✨Long memory and long live to the "54° Massachusetts"!
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Never seen this movie, but it really drives home to me how horrid the civil war was. You're not looking through a scope from 100 yards away to take a shot at a man, you're within 50 to 100 feet of your fellow Americans, each of you quickly reloading and looking into the other's eyes knowing that whoever is faster will decide if you live or die. The close proximity is the most jarring part.
Not to mention accuracy of rifles had came along way since the revolutionary war when standing 20-100 yards of your enemy was a pretty solid chance you weren't going to get hit. They still had smoothbore rifles in the civil war for sure but the average soldier with a rifled barrel could hit a target consistently at range, yet the tactics from the revolutionary war the American military used hadn't caught up yet.
@@kindofawizard8681 You got that right!
it's a good movie. worth seeing it
@@kindofawizard8681 Modern historical analysis has shown that despite the guns being rifled, massed fire in the civil war wasn't much more effective than it was 60 years earlier in the Napoleonic wars. This is because the soldiers had a bare minimum of training, and chronic ammunition shortages on both sides meant troops got very little shooting practice before being thrown into combat. So, the rifling and new bullets were just barely enough to make civil war era soldiers about as effective at hitting the enemy as British and French grenadiers from the early 1800s.
The real reason that civil war combat was so bloody was just because a lot more troops were put on the field in the first place, the US army being about three times as large as the continental army during the revolutionary war (including militia), and the confederate army only slightly smaller. Despite the sensationalization, hand-to-hand combat was rare. Records show that between 5 and 10% of wounds were from bayonets and other bladed weapons. And artillery, though deadlier than before, was limited in what it can do, with about 15% of deaths attributed to shelling. The vast majority of battlefield deaths were from rifle fire, but that was not because it was accurate, just from sheer volume. When 2000 men are all firing at once, some of them are going to hit.
This is a movie and nothing more. This is actually the Battle of Grimball's Landing, in which the Confederates suffered three dead. Three. The US suffered 14. Hardly the blood bath presented here. It's a good movie, but there's a lot of leeway with the facts here for dramatic effect. By 1865 veterans knew better than to fight like this.
This is a top 5 movie of all time, right next to saving private Ryan and shaw shank - one of the most amazing and meaningful movies ever "give em hell 54th!" Tears me up every time at the end of the movie
You should know that the movie is only about 20% accurate!
@@benadam7753 realy only 20%?
@@luke8349 Yes! Too many factual errors to list! The biggest error is the movie portrays the 54th as mostly runaway slaves from the South, it was the exact oppisite! The 54th was made up from free well to do Black Americans from the North!!
@@benadam7753 Its actually largely accurate, but they have to take liberties in story and time line. And of course shooting it on film is much harder to do then recounting it from a history book. All the battles are accurate in the film( as to having occurred and the general description of how it went down. Brodricks character is accurate. That in itself is about 50%. But of course one persons idea of accurate is roughly 20% of someone else's idea of accuracy.
@@thecocktailian2091 Other than there was a 54th Massachusetts commanded by Col. Shaw and The Battle of James Island and the attack on Ft. Wagner what else is true? NOTHING! The 54th were NOT runaway slaves, Flogging was banned 2 years before the 54th was formed (no Denzel Washington whipping scene). They were issued uniforms and shoes their first day in camp. The Sargent Major was Fredrick Douglass's son, a free man, not a former slave! Shall I keep going?
3:12 I always thought it great that even when attacked by another officer with a sword, he didn’t throw his gun aside and have a sword to sword fight with the Rebel officer, he just kicked him in the nuts to get the edge as fast as possible and keep on fighting “All is fair in love and war”
If it's a fair fight - you're doing it wrong.
Denzel character was ferocious in this scene
Well he had to be... I certainly wasn't going to look like he was tickling the confederates with feather.
@@Loner-Wolf lmao]
His Tripp character finally got to release all of that pent-up anger he had inside of him.
@@Swlabr61 Fact: No runaway slaves in the 54th. all free Black men from the North!
The real reenact-ors from both these regiments did this scene. I bet they are truly best of friends irl and I bet they had an absolute blast doing this.
The acting is so great in this scene. You can see the anger and hatred that the 54th had towards the traitors as they look on, and in the bayonet charge you can see the 54th just unleash their anger on them and you can just see how much pain they were put through by them.
Oooo I think that is a bit of a reach. I saw a whole range of different emotions from concern, to fear. I don't believe I saw anything that was definitely about traitors. I think by that stage is all about survival, of you primarily, then your mates
@@hannahsminecraftchannel6133 True ☝️
Traitors?
@@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 Yeah, the guys defending their home, South Carolina, against invasion? So, the good guys.
Traitors is absolutely the right word
As a black man, the ending of this movie was tear dropping.
As a white man, the ending of this movie was tear dropping. I was 12 and the movie just came out on vhs. My father rented it and my twin brother and I couldn't stop crying at the end. I'll never forget that. When Thomas was screaming in pain after being stabbed, it broke my heart.
As a Latin man I was on my knees weaping
as an American i weep at the devils laugh . the war could have been avoided.
As a white man, same. Let's not forget. these guys died to fix our mistakes.
So you black first and American second. Just leave then.
Damn, Ferris Bueler is a stone cold killer
This is what he was doing skipping school all those days, he was in a reenactment group 😂
Broderick was a huge casting risk being that he was known as the devil may care teenager in Ferris Bueler just 2 years prior. He showed serious chops in this movie and no one could’ve done it better
Always was
This film is a masterpiece of cinema
The first movie I saw Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington in when it was first released. I watched it the first day of release. Been a fan ever since.
One of the best movies ever made
Yes! I have that on DVD and bought it from Dollar General.
Lately I’ve been reading Shelby foote’s masterful trilogy on the civil war. When I used to watch glory I never could relate so to speak with these soldiers. Now I can. The battle scenes in this movie are some of my favorite’s in any war movie I’ve ever seen.
Shelby Foote: A Mississippian through and through. Being a former Civil War reenactor ( 20th. Maine Regiment ), and a now retired Marine, I always pictured Shelby as a reincarnated Confederate soldier for some reason... He definitely would have been an officer perhaps serving with the Mississippi Rifles Regiment or other some such. I had the rare opportunity back in 1997 to attend a Civil War Symposium, which was held in Richmond, VA. He was the keynote speaker. Later on that evening, I had the rare opportunity to sit down with him and have a long conversation concerning the history of the American Civil War. A true gentleman in every sense of the word. We stayed in regular contact until his untimely passing. America lost a truly great scholar, and I lost a good friend and a mentor as well.
Foote's history of the Civil War is a magnificent work, and I believe the definitive history of the conflict. I've read it twice, and probably will again sometime. What amazed me was that he painstakingly wrote that entire manuscript all in longhand using an old-fashioned nib pen, the one you dip into a bottle of ink, write a few words, dip, write, dip, write... He never owned a typewriter, and certainly never a word processor. He never even owned a telephone until, I think, the late 90s. He was a bit like Tolkien - no fan of technology and born in the wrong century.
@@DevilDogDen1775 I can definitely see Shelby Foote as a reincarnated Confederate soldier, absolutely! I envy you your time with him, I would have loved to have had a good conversation with him. Thanks for sharing that! I'm actually Australian, but I have long had a fascination with the American Civil War and have devoured quite a lot of information about it. I don't really know why I'm so drawn to it - maybe because it was such a unique conflict by dint of where and when it took place. There has never been anything like it before or since, a truly singular event in the world's history.
@@DevilDogDen1775 i miss reenacting i was 34th north carolina and also fought with the 5th texas
Shelby is the definitive choice on the Civil War. You should hear him speak; he has a slow southern drawl!
I haven't seen this movie in 20+ years, watching this scene just now got me choked up
That is one of the greatest battle scenes i have seen.
Best scene in the movie.
Thomas probably should have received The Medal Of Honor for his heroic act at 4:02!
Dunno about a medal of honor, but he definitelly should have been cited for bravery. Modern day he'd probably get a bronze star for saving a brother and purple heart for getting shot on Uncle Sam's dime. In those days e might get "mentioned in dispatches," IE praised by his commanders and held up as an example of soldierly courage.
If nothing else this is a Purple Heart definitely
This is not the Battle of James Island. That was in June of 1862. The 54th Mass. had not yet been formed. This was the Battle for Grimball's Landing (on James Island) in July of 1863, when the regiment covered the retreat of the 10th Connecticut.
Yea, tactical defeat but covering retreat has a good strategic to preserve manpower to shift their focus to achieve more important regions.
Thanks for uploading this great battle scene from one of my favorite film
The worst war in our history...brother against brother...Never to forget !!!
Or in this scene it's brothers against people who want them to be property.
@@keg9001 not everyone in south agreed, most were just boys fighting for their side
@@SergyMilitaryRankings that's actually a myth. The South was explicitly fighting for the right to own slaves and everyone knew that was what the war was about.
@@keg9001 lmfao how tf is that a myth, you're literally just making up sweeping generalisations, the war initially had nothing to do with slavery and only was brought up as the reason later on.
Acting like all southern soldiers were fighting because they believed in slavery, is an outright lie, it's like saying all soldiers fighting for Nazi Germany believed in Nazi ideology, again like all armies, majority are just poor people who are fighting for their side, it's actually more of a myth that most or all soldiers fight because they agree with their governments ideology.
Sounds like you're just trying to demonize these young men who were just fighting for their side, whatever helps you sleep I guess.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings it's a myth called "The Lost Cause" myth perpetuated by the United Daughters of the Confederacy and exists today as the ahistorical belief that the war was about something other than slavery and the Southern soldiers were just protecting their homes.
The war initially was entirely about slavery. Absolutely and completely. The Confederate constitution was taken almost directly from the US constitution, article for article, even word for word EXCEPT they added a bunch of stuff about the right to own slaves.
In terms of common Nazi soldiers, while few knew the full scale of Hitler's depravity, the antisemitism and unltranationalism was absolutely a motivating factor for the majority of them. The sane goes for common souther soldiers and slavery.
This is not a question historically, the "Lost Cause" myth has been rejected and refuted by academic historians and today only exists because of the political influence wielded by lobbies and state officials.
Surviving a line infantry volley is like Russian roulette
Sorta. But you're still more likely to survive if you stand than if you break and run. Note that when the rebels had to GTFO, they gave the 54th many free shots at their backs. And those last volleys can be devastating because the winning side isn't getting shot at anymore and can aim.
This film is a gem.Superb cast. Tragic ending though. But all wars are tragic.oh, don't watch when peeling onions.
It's cool how you can see how much weaponry and firearms have evolved since the Revolutionary War. The rifles the 54th uses look like predecessors to the bolt action rifles that would be used in later wars such as the First World War and a farcry from the inaccurate flintlock muskets of the Revolution.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1861
Indeed. The American Civil war was, in many ways, the first modern war, although the Crimean war was contemporaneous. In particular it showed the sheer lethality of rifled guns (enabled by the invention of the minie ball), even with smoky gunpowder; being able to aim your shots was enough to cause ruinous casualties from a serious distance. Charges still happened, but were already stupidly lethal to the charging force. By the end of the war both sides had realized that entrenchment was incredibly effective and the first semi-modern trenches were built at this time, along with semi-modern artillery support and warships.
It would take the invention of smokeless powder (of type suitable for rifles) to really kill the charge tactic, but it was already insane by this time. Infantry could also very reliably repel cavalry charges in addition to infantry charges, due to the number of casualties the charging force would suffer before contact; this encouraged cavalry to harass flanks and fight dismounted. Also, Gatling guns had been invented, but were relegated to occasional trench systems and riverboats, and artillery was rapidly increasing in lethality, accuracy, and rate of fire.
Hence the beginnings of the WW1 dynamic where defense overmatched offense, except where artillery strikes were employed, can be seen here.
@@mickyw1455the film shows them getting .577-caliber Enfields, not Springfields.
@@threestrikesmarxman9095 OK. Thanks for the correction.
Hence why civil war was so bloody. Morons used Napoleonic War tactics with rifled muskets and advanced cannons
Was really late to the party, as the first time I saw this movie was just a year ago. This without a doubt is my favorite movie of all time. RIP to the 54th and all those who perished in this war.
I remember our history teacher back in high school played this movie. These soldiers made America what it is today
that dive tackle at 3:07 is awesome I always love to replay that part
3:08
I bet you those two dudes practice that one second shot for days.
The amount of hand to hand killing in this, I can't imagine the PTSD these men went home with.
Shell shock. PTSD was a term invented to dehumanize the horrors of war
The hand to hand bayonet killing was far less common than shown here. Still one stood a better chance of survival than a gut or head shot by a minnie ball
@@louisbilodeau8682 Words have the meanings that you and others attribute to them. If you tell me someone came back from a war with PTSD, I and I suspect most nowadays, are not going to doubt the seriousness of it.
@@TimberwolfCY a VA advocate here. Sadly not always the case. I have to jump through hoops to make sure they get all the benefits they deserve. Uncle Sam doesn't volunteer any information on benefits. You have to know where to look. .
I'm that guy
After Antietam, Shaw already had it. During the party at his parent's house, someone pops a champagne bottle loudly, and he flinches and semi ducks.
For the people who really put they life on the line I salute 🫡 you captain
Fun fact the confederate brute choking out Denzel at 3:51 is bareheaded , but at 3:52 he suddenly had time to put on his cap …
The Union had magic bayonets as well lol.
ha good eye
Good catch!
Acho que ele deixou o boné cair no campo e pediram para colocar, logo na próxima tomada. Isso é Hollywood!
My great grandfather proudly served and died with these men. This is a movie is 100% accurate except Colonel Shaw was only 26 when these events happened, Matthew Broderick was in his 30's other than that, spot on.
Broderick was born in 1962, Glory was filmed in 1988...Broderick was only a few months older than Colonel Shaw was when he was killed.
A shining example of what tactics not keeping up with technology looks like.
I love this scene so much knowing that they wanted to see combat and they finally got their chance. And they proved they could do the job well like any other regiment
At 3:05, the guy on the left getting bayonetted, displayed pain so unbelievably well it looked extremely real!
Here's a comment you won't see everyday. I had a time regression hypnosis done and through a long process, I discovered that I fought in the Civil War at the Battle of Mine Run, or Payne's Farm in 1863. I even discovered my name which was Merritt B. Aseltyne. I also found a picture of myself as this man and the effect it had on me looking into my own eyes was indescribable. In the battle I was mortally wounded and subsequently passed away from my wounds exactly one month later from that fight in November 27th 1863, two days after Christmas. This movie, was gut wrenching for me.
Wonderful historical movie!
I loved Denzel Washington in this film... so full of anger and hate
Fact: No runaway slaves in the 54th. all free Black men from the North!
....and then, honor.
at 2:32 Union troops employ high tech "switch blade bayonets" that spring forth just before the command to charge is issued
That’s pretty funny. But someone pointed out it was mainly for a pacing/filmmaking reason: the bayonets are rubber, and with a close up shot of the guns, it would be pretty obvious.
Swing bayonets are a thing, they aren’t spring loaded though
I loved Glory
A former co-worker of mine was in Glory and Dances with Wolves. Sometimes it pays to be a history geek.
Just a wonderful great movie 🍿
Just as the fight was dying down and as Tripp was fighting a Confederate soldier hand to hand, another was rushing to bayonet him but Thomas got him before he could and Tripp was shocked to see Thomas there and after all the hell he put him through, he most likely was saying to himself, "I owe him my life, my thanks, and a big apology".🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 54th Mass
I thought that this seen demonstrates the contempt that the Confederates had towards the Black Union soldiers. During the Civil War cavalry would almost never attack a deployed unit of infantry as it would be suicidal. I suspected that the Confederates probably thought the the men of the 54th would simply panic. Instead they stood and repelled the attack. The commentary above puts a bit of a different perspective on that as it suggests that the Confederate cavalry were brought in to mop up and pursue the retreating Union forces that were not expected to be properly deployed.
Only part of the 54th was engaged in the battle. The Confederates with 3,000 men attacked the Union forces on James Island who had 3,800. The main battle was the Battle of Grimball's Landing, which the Confederates won. The Confederate cavalry and infantry were trying to surround the 10th Connecticut. The 54th were in a position to block the Confederates long enough for the 10th to retreat. The 54th then retreated. Total Union losses were 45, and the Confederates 18.
Interesting that Charleston was never captured by direct attack. The city only gave it up after Sherman flanked the city on his march through South Carolina just a few months before the surrender.
I'll watch Denzel Morgan in just about anything
Nothing beats these types of battles cinematiclly cannons horses rifles, brutal handbro hand combat ,large numbersbandba far simpler time
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I love the sound of Robert’s revolver, I wish I would know what sound effect it was. I can't even find it on the sound effects wiki.
I wish Gettyburg had combat like this. That movie was much too clean. I understand why but its inportant to capture the horror of what these men endured
this is trippy.... i live in SC and am about 3-3.5 hours from James Island
This movie holds up and then some
Can you just image the among of courage to stand in line formation like that facing so much bullets. Unlike soldiers today, they can't dogged the bullets. It is literally like facing a firing squad. That is courage, I don't think I can ever do that.
cool history fact, Frederick Douglas' son was actually a volunteer as well and fought with the 54th
This scene makes me tear up.
They were cool actors doing this battle.
still my favorite movie. got me into re-enacting.
When the expanded soundtrack for this movie came out, I had no idea that James Horner had composed a track for this scene! I played it in sync, and can't believe it was cut, the music was epic and really intensifies the combat. If it had been used in the film, along with the other cues that were cut, Horner would likely have gotten 2 Oscar nominations for 1989 instead of just the one. He certainly would have deserved it not only for it being such an epic score, but for his hard work and commitment since that was one of his busiest years.
My husband is a veteran 10 years service in the SANDF when him and his fellow veterans get together to talk about their time in the African bush i’m amazed by the things they lived through
What an awesome movie
Great Film!
Crazy military strategy. Line up and march forward and hope for the best
Most of the men and especially the officers had very little training, so they weren't capable of exercising more complicated tactics like, for example, Napoleon's army at its height could do. As the war progressed and they learned their craft, tactics did become more sophisticated, but this was the first battle for this regiment.
Anybody else notice how these guys started this fight without bayonets then they suddenly appeared between volleys?
Everyone...
They were protected by plot armor lol
God bless America and in God we trust🗡🦅🇺🇲👑🦁🍷✨☮✝️🍻
This kind of war is just nuts. Unbelievable.
Yes this movie was stacked with actors some others was also up and coming actors also.
Great movie
Black men serving our country, to preserve Democracy, Freedom, and our Union as a country, eager to prove themselves, to prove that this country was their country too, says a great deal about their character. And yet, today, we still treat them like second class citizens. We had to add an amendment, just to say they are free citizens, with the same rights as all Americans. The day we can see that people of different ethnic backgrounds are men and women just like white Americans, will be the day that the constitution fulfilled it's promise, that all men are created equal and a need for an additional amendment stating such will be unnecessary.
What few scholars acknowledged at the time: this is good aerobic exercise.
We saw this movie right before Desert Shield turned into Desert Storm...Very somber moment for us.
I really like how this battle and the way it was filmed portrays the brutality of war. Private Tripp (Washington) clubbing a confederate soldier with a log, and Sgt. Maj. Rawlins (Freeman) blocking a rifle swing and kicking the guy in the balls before bayoneting him.
Good scene, but I hate how all the troops just break formation and fight as individuals when they start fighting in melee. You see that in movies all the time (Braveheart is a severe offender in this regard). Obviously melee fighting is the worst time to break formation, because if you do that, you can get easily get surrounded and back-stabbed, which is actually what we see several times in this scene.
So one funny thing about this scene is it accurately shows the reason why real life armies would not break formation as they do in it.
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Bayonet stabbings were far more rare than depicted here
3:25 "THIS IS WHY I TOLD YOU TEACH THEM PROPERLY, MAJOR!"
The insanity of firing at each other with .58 cal rifled muskets at point blank range....
That reload order was a long time coming...
I love Denzel’s acting when he reloads the rifle with the rank and file. His eyes shows fear at the incoming volley. Very human natural portrayal of men at war. Not Rambo stuff.
That's one hell of a day off
Edward Zwick is a phenomenal director. I'm sad he never got the praise he so deserved.
Impressive how quickly they fixed bayonets.
I like the magic bayonets that appear when the officer yells charge
Yes, they never fixed them. haha
Let's just shoot at each other at point blank range insane