Was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr a Heretic?
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I believe Dr King was a Christian. But if he wasn't, it's a SHAME that a PAGAN man showed more LOVE, compassion, and intelligence than most Christians then and now.
Thank you!
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1. King was not a Christian.., 2. Jesus told his followers it’s not you they hate, it’s me they hate, and if the world rejects you, just remember they hated me first! Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light, not MLK! MLK”s love was not greater than Jesus or of any true Christian preaching, teaching, and living a sincere life for Jesus!
No one is taking away from Kings humanitarian efforts.., but atheists, racial Supremacist, the power hungry, money hungry, and people with all kinds of agendas that have NOTHING to do with God .., can be HUMANITARIANS!
Jesus and real Christians are the best thing to ever happen to this world.., remove Jesus and the Real Christians from this place.., and there will be nothing left but Judgement!
Precious hearts…, JESUS and REAL CHRISTIANS have been a greater impact on this world for the good of humanity than of any pagan, counterfeit, impostor, or idol god.. using THE NAME OF JESUS.., to build their own name and kingdom.., and not the Kingdom of GOD!
I feel I have to repeat what I've said before on another forum about the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., due to the nature of the claims based solely on school papers.
First, we have to remember that he went to liberal schools and was given liberal book readings. So naturally, we should expect that he would write based on the readings he was given. In those days, just as in our time, there was pandering to the coursework and professors to get grades.
Second, I see zero evidence that Dr. King preached any of the things he wrote while in school after school. I have several of his books, and from what I see he left the liberal theology in the schools he graduated from.
Finally, I would encourage people interested in this to read Dr. King's own words from his actual books, not people writing ABOUT him who could misrepresent him by giving you a partial story. I especially recommend his book "Strength to Love." He had some great, Biblical things to say there.
Not to worry about MLK's salvation. He's been dead almost twice as long as he was ever alive. Phillipians 2:12-13 instructs us to keep our focus upon ourselves! If the righteous scarcely be saved...(1 Peter 4: 18-19)❤This is a distraction. Saved or heretic, he DEMONSTRATED more love during his brief time on this earth than I see many Christians do in a lifetime, including myself.
And he was boule and was a gatekeeper. Satan loved him more and he's in Hell with him 😎😎😎😎😎
Praise GOD all I could say is Amen
Totally disagree.., no real Christian anywhere.., should ever take the position that just because someone did good things in the earth.., someone who pastored a church and represented Christianity etc… actually did not believe in the Bible, who thought it was all nonsense and fairytales .., and did not believe in the deity of Jesus or the gospel of Salvation .., sorry, that is a very serious thing that deserves a proper conversation .., and is an exceptional teaching moment…
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A BLACK PASTOR TO SPEAK ON THIS. THANK YOU SWJ❤
Yes, cause I've heard others speak on it and it's in writing. MLK was the most recorded black man of his times.
I appreciate all that MLK did, hearing this about him is shocking. However, it seems that many preachers I notice are not preaching the gospel.. they focus more on social justice,etc. and say little about holy living. Sin is a bad word in church…never hear it mentioned.
@Sir Walter Jones Show..because we are in different time zones.. I many times listen to you while getting dressed for work. I love listening and learning, and it's refreshing to gain a broader perspective and challenge one to soul search and you encourage us as listeners to dig deeper and draw closer to God. Thank you for these teachings and thank you fir your diligence on stretching us as students, which I consider myself one of your students. I started questioning MLK and you addressed many of my questions. Thank you and blessings .
Sir Walter Jones this was on point! We Christians are lazy not reading taking in what people are feeding us,
I love that you pulled out your sources for anyone who thought you were coming forth with Wikipedia bro-history.😉
Keep up the good work, Sir!
A lot of people mentioned us, but doesn’t really matter if he was a heretic or not he did not lead us as a people to salvation he help lead us civil and political freedom. The bus boycott had nothing to do with theology. The Woolworth sit in had nothing to do with biblical soundness grant it he was a Rev., but his impact on the nation of the world was not as a reverend, but as a political figure, and a civil rights leader
Good evening SWJ. I'm not hurt or surprised. My mother taught me to believe God's word and inductive study gives great understanding of the true Gospel l. God bless ya! Preach the word in season and out of season!!
I have always been a proponent of civil rights and never overwhelmed or fund of the leaders. I couldn't understand why. Now I know why.
MLK sounds like Bishop Carlton Pearson inclusion doctrine about hell
Thank you, @SWJ. This is a hard pill to swallow but we must take the medicine. Great work, I want to research on day.
There’s nothing wrong with speaking truth I hope he repented and was changed only God knows
Unfortunately, the only way to get black folks to follow him was to use the church as a conduit.
But it's baffling that those who have shown The Most nature of Christ of Love would be listed as Heretics. And Love is the tell tell sign of The God Head. The real heart of God as a SIGN you have been born again. No man can do those works except he is from God.
That was Awesome! I never really thought that he was a preacher but a speaker. I am defining just was it is to vote for these political monsters are on every side. Do not know what to do anymore.
I’m shocked 😮
Man this totally blew my mind today sir. Totally flipped the way I look at civil rights, And now i'm like, "AHHH"! That's why he had a Ghandi statue, among many other things.
My ex-husband was ordained by COGIC but was heavily into philosophy and science of the mind -dianitics (?). If I gaf known his real beliefs, I would never had married him
Like Scientology
Once African-Americans learn to move beyond icon/idle worship, we can learn to see truth for what it really is. This in no way belittles his contributions to society, facts are facts.
Wow that's so powerful 💪
Thanks!
I am enlighed but His vision was for the season in which our culture was in and it open many many doors for not just our race but all races. We need the works to come alive in todays society
They had COVID and didn't know it. Did not want to know it
The "Social Gospel" is back with a vengeance.
I understand your contention with MLK and others of his time, the problem I have is , I don't see this same imputation given to the so called " Church Father's" ( maybe, I haven't looked at enough of your videos) I tend to view people from the lens of their day, then to impune them from the lenses of our day. But at least you got 1 part right. MLK is in GOD's hand now!
Thank you for that honest comment… I respect you! And yes, I have delved in quite a few so called “Fathers” past… unfortunately, when I do them, I NEVER hear anybody say, “Okay but what about MLK?” See wut I did?
@@sirwalterj honestly they wouldn't know enough nor care enough, but of ???
Respectfully Submitted!
@@rightlydividingthewordAlpha Phi Alpha has nothing to do with God.....
@@NathanAHogan how is that relevant to the conversation, did MLK, put his fraternity at the forefront?
@@rightlydividingtheword Yes he did. He mentioned it on his sermon entitled "The Drum Major Instinct". Plus Daddy King (King Sr) is a freemason.
I see it
Yes. I'm good. This is good. Wow.
Don’t feel bad! You are teaching the truth.
Need a strong drink on this information.
Let's not go there. It was a different day and time then. Our people gave what they were given and times were crippling back then. This is highly disrespectful.
Agree 100% Times were very hard back then for Black Americans. If I lived during slavery I probably wouldn't even believe in God.
Sir, you ALWAYS on Tulsa Time😅😅😅
My Lord thank you
I came to the same conclusion, he never preached anything, in any sermons that I heard, about Jesus Christ. So there it is.
My Lord! That will shake us! No I'm not ok.
Sir Walter I don’t agree with something’s you say but my Lord you have done excellent tonight. What you have stated has been so educational. I don’t listen attentively to teachers and those who preach the Word unless I can take something from it. God Bless You !
Who said MLK was a born-again Believer??? He probably was not, but it doesn't negate his Civil Rights advocacy.
God told us not to have our affections on things that pass away, Jesus did not come to deliver Israel from the Romans, neither did Jesus come that black people be delivered from slavery or oppression, he came that we would have eternal life. The cares of this life is one of the conditions in the parable of the sower that was not good ground. I'd rather be a slave and oppressed and be born again than be free and in the mess black people are in now.
@@kgar5String.. Jesus was opposed to physical slavery as well as to the slavery of sin. When it comes to sin, Black folk are not in any worse mess than Whites, Asians, Latinos etc. - they all need Salvation by Grace though Faith...
White folk revere George Washington as a Christian founder of America, as much as Black folk revere MLK. Washington was a Deist, which means he didn't believe in the Divinity of Jesus Christ. On top of this, Washington was an unregenerate slave owner. He is as much of a heretic as MLK was.
Wow that is freakyyyyy!!!
It’s not our place to know. God decides who is righteous or unrighteous; who are tares & who are wheat. David was a man of God’s Heart even after his past mistakes.
True
However it is recorded that David repented
@@storefront923 there's no pathway of repentance for murder. Taking a life is not like stealing candy from the fast food mart. A murderer robs the LORD of a soul. And because he robs the LORD, a murderer creates for himself an insurmountable enemy in the LORD who shall avenge the soul taken.
So, in the words of Eli to his sons Hophni and Phinehas, "If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him: but if a man sin against the LORD, who shall intreat for him" (1 Samuel 2:25)? So, even though David may have regretted or been contrite, he, as do all murderers created for himself an insurmountable bulwark to Heaven: the LORD Himself.
And, no. Moses was not a murderer. Moses returned to the scene of the supposed "crime," that is, Moses returned to Egypt. But Moses did not only return; he returned boldly and emboldened, bearing only the word "I AM" (Exodus 3:14-15).
@@notofthischurch2822 My point regarding David was not so much the sin of murder, but when Sir Walter was speaking on the recorded and written documents of MLK, there was no way of knowing if he repented. David was recorded as being remorseful and it is written he repented and he experienced suffering the consequences of murder in his own family. Not sure where you going with part of your comments. I keeping in context of the subject
@@storefront923, thanks for your response. In each of my two separate replies, I use each one to address a concern I found with your reply. My replies are lengthy, so if you have a text-to-speech app, it'll make for a more convenient read. I use a text-to-speech app when I encounter lengthy articles and write-ups. It allows me to consider the author's thoughts thoroughly.
As to my first concern, MLK had no reason to repent. King lived what he preached. There was no double-mindedness in what he pursued and believed. King was not a walking contradiction. Though not a perfect man, he was undoubtedly perfect in his generation. How you take measure of King and those who came before him is under the auspice that the oppressor has his God, while the god of the oppressed is a "wait-and-see."
As for my Negro's "wait-and-see" God. The generation of King, which is my father's generation, was the final generation of Negro slavery in America. They were the final generation of the oppressed. What heralds the Spirit of the god by which they prevailed centers on the government's enactment of the 1965 Voting Rights Act (10 August 1965). By this law's enactment, the LORD made America our ancestral fathers', even unto my father, their footstool.
For us, however, this monumental moment is a stumbling block. It's a stone of offense (1 Peter 2:8) because we serve a god who commands us to cast indiginities upon the struggles of our ancestral fathers. We serve a god who dares us to question the works of the potter who, by his own will, shapes one work of clay for honor and the other for dishonor (Romans 9:21). He's a god who declares that he makes no distinction between the oppressor and oppressed as it was by his will that he shaped and molded each to fulfill their calling.
Hence, by MLK refusing to live as this church's god demanded and commanded, we're called to declare MLK a heretic and his works heretical because they contend with this church's orthodox teachings and her god. As a result, because we bear witness to MLK and the Civil Rights Movement as a "stone of offense" (1 Peter 2:8), we insist upon casting aspersion upon our forefathers. We exhibit little appreciation for the living hell they endured and the steadfastness in which they prevailed by which we emerge upon the earth as a unique and peculiar people. Instead of reverencing their struggle and sacrifice, we choose to place them upon that proverbial auction block before the world for this final and greatest indignity as we strip them naked that we barter with their souls.
King, and those generations before his, prevailed in the Spirit of CHRIST (Genesis 1:3-5), which is the Spirit of God as evidenced from and in the beginning. We recognize this Spirit of CHRIST (Genesis 1:3-5) as unlike the Christ espoused by Paul, which we ascribe to this church and its orthodoxy. As manifested in our ancestral legacy, this Spirit of CHRIST (Genesis 1:3-5) recognizes that for us to be free, our fathers did not destroy what oppressed or came before them. It testifies to the Spirit of God evidenced in the beginning, given, to resolve the primordial darkness that consumed the earth, to establish the Light, which He called into existence (Genesis 1:3); God did not destroy or harm the darkness that preceded the Light. To ensure that both dwelt together in an everlasting Harmony that serves as a revelation to man as to all that pertains to the Spirit of God, "God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night" (Genesis 1:5 KJV).
Jesus is the divine embodiment of this SPIRIT. Jesus embodies this Spirit of God as the CHRIST, the Son of the Living God (Matthew 16:16-17). Our assurance lies in the immutable and incontestable fact that to establish His Church, Jesus did not rely on force, violence, and war to establish either His name or His Body.
That is, King walked in the Spirit of Jesus, who is the CHRIST, not in this church's Christ, which no one can fully understand or articulate due to its Trinitarian nature.
This church cannot make this declaration of CHRIST (Genesis 1:3-5). She bears a legacy that testifies to her hands bloodied with the life of martyrs and a mouth filled with the bodies of saints.
Neither can America make any claim to CHRIST (Genesis 1:3-5). Her legacy begins with the decimation of natives, wars without end, and senseless and endless violence to ensure her stature as a city upon a hill. But it was not until 10 August 1965 that America emerged as a light unto the world (Matthew 5:14).
America did not emerge as a light unto the world due to a Christian America. How our fathers prevailed in such a violent land and country to be free without the streets flowing in rivers of blood is a marvel unto the world that dictated her ascension. As a result of how our fathers prevailed, we ascended as a people within a people. We are set apart from all other peoples, not only because we are free in the same land where our fathers were not only chattel slaves but declared animals by law (see 1662 Colonial Law of Virginia). And yet, signifying the nature and soul of our fathers, though declared animals by culture, politics, law, and tradition, they did not take on the image and likeness of wild and ravenous beasts to secure our freedom.
What this means is that this rabble that speaks against King, those of his generation and before, have no idea about MLK's or the God of our ancestral fathers. Convinced that what they witness, testify to, and profess about their Trinitarian god places them in the LORD's Judgment seat, investing them with the power and authority to render an earthly verdict with heavenly ramifications.
Though arrayed in Pharisaic robes, they lack any self-awareness about their ill-suitedness in strength or foresight to drink from the same cup Martin drank. To dare question the salvific ends of King is a perilous endeavor. King endured what is to our generation unfathomable temptations, trials, and perils under the weight of an oppressive system that sought by every means that the Negro would never see the light of freedom. And yet, though the man stockpiled guns in his home, he never relied on the devil's voice to persuade any audience. King never relied on the devil's strength of violence as a debate or dialectic tactic. King nor my fathers ever took on the image and likeness of the ill and evil that beset their days and haunted their dreams.
King lived by a GOD this church would seize in its attempt to hang on a cross. And yet, we do not know or appreciate our Inheritance because we cleave to a god that weighs profession, rite, and ritual above practice and lived experience. This church's God, as per Paul (Galatians 2:8-9), mocks and ridicules our ancestral fathers' steadfastness to resist temptation and endure evil. This orthodox God derisively says that they'd been much better to have lived their lives as thieves, liars, and murderers since then they could serve as evidence of his salvific glorifying work-Hubbbuhhhh (nonsense).
So, this church's orthodox God cannot bear witness to the God of our fathers. And though far from perfect, they were perfect in their generations since by giving all over to hold their peace (Exodus 14:14), they left all in the LORD's Hands as to whether we'd see the light of freedom. Now that we are free, and free in a manner unlike no man or people ever to walk the Earth. We have the obligation to declare before man and our fathers' God that we are bearers of the LORD's Light. We have a legacy.
What's up bro. I just started watching your video, but I wanted to say, without doing the extensive research that you did, I came to pretty much the same SAD conclusion several years ago. I mentioned my concern to a friend of mine, asking him to see if he could fine ANY video or record of MLK specifically preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. He came up completely empty and disappointed.
MLK is an idol to millions of people, particularly black people, but it is very possible that he did not have a relationship with the Son of God. Idolatry is so subtle but prevalent among us.
I am going to continue to trust the word of God and lean not to my own understanding.
Wow 😳 I would have never known this, nor that he was a scientist.
No I don't need any milk I am okay.
I don’t need milk I need a stiff drink 🍹 😢😔
Tell the truth and make it plain
I see it!!😄😄😄
Say that!!
MrsClinton and John McCain showed up their to apologize for voting against MLK HOLIDAY .
Just one more thing Elder I’m more pro Christ then Iam pro black
Amen!
You said it. Humanistic
Amen.
Jesus help us
Bold BOLD show..... but these are HIS writings. I'm surprised he was able to be ordained at all IF these things were known.
I’m noticing a lot of the younger preachers, carrying the social message that you’re speaking of. Focusing on “ black” issues as opposed to preaching the gospel of JESUS Christ. Thank you for the enlightenment.
Fine. Go back to 1955 then. I appreciate social justice warriors or we will be back to 1930 while we shouting and having emotional church
Sir Bro. Walter, i love the TRUTH im not the least bit offended, MLK was who he was, I really appreciate your Godly stance on being Obedient to what you know will cause some to say WHY is he doing this. Im waiting for the next Truth you share, Continue to turn over every scared Cow God tells you too. 🙏ing for you and family without ceasing.
I see it!!
JEREMIAH 23 KJV
"Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord. 2 Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord."
King greatest attribute to blacks was how he glorified God in the midst of turmoil and complete white Choas! TGBTG, Amen!
So did Ghandi, but what God?
I just don’t get how this is relevant other than for views and likes🤷🏾♀️
Enjoyed the show as it now all makes sense to me…lbgtq heavy company I just came from .. but not understanding the repeated offer for milk.
Hate to say it, but I did very extensive studies on MLK .., studied his sermons, periodicals, his college dissertations etc.., and I couldn’t back out of it.., although I GREATLY APPRECIATE what he contributed to society…, the spiritual reality is that King was simply a humanist and a political activist!
King actually DID NOT believe in the Bible, he considered the whole book to be fairytales. I challenge you to find even one sermon of King actually preaching the gospel of salvation in Jesus name, you won’t find it because King considered Jesus the white man’s creation.., but as a humanist and a political, or at least a public figure representing black America, King clearly understood the POWER of religion.
King WAS NOT a born again Christian.., he didn’t believe in it.., but he adopted the “Christian” ways that Jesus taught!!! I’m not talking about King adopted the Gospel that Jesus Preached.., because he didn’t.. but viewing Jesus as a humanitarian, a revolutionary, and a man fighting against the unjust.. was his only interest and connection to Jesus!
The same way Muslims see Jesus as just a great man, like many other great men before or after him, Jesus for MLK was no different than the Dali Lama, Mother Teresa, or Gandi etc…
King as a pastor of a Christian church was only social status, pedigree, political, and strategic etc… but King absolutely did not believe in the Bible or in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
One last note.., KING is a perfect example of why Gods hates idolatry. We should NEVER love any person, place, or thing so much that we become blind to the wrong. A believers faith should be in GOD and NOT MAN.., not your pastor, your friends or family, not in money, power, fame or fortune etc.., but IN GOD!!! Give Respect where it is due, give honor where it is do, but let nothing or no one separate you from the love of Jesus! Don’t follow absolutely NO ONE into Hell.. not even your own momma or daddy.., I love you and respect you.., but no.., I’m not going to Hell with you!!!
The lesson of Dr. King is .., you can love a person and their sacrifices/contributions in life.., but the cares of this world and your eternal soul are two VASTLY DIFFERENT THINGS! Yes contribute to the world.. BUT ALL IS VANITY if you die and leave this earth without a REAL and TRUE relationship with JESUS CHRIST!!!….
I actually stopped fighting the trumpites
You are Teaching!!!!❤
Liberation theology
And his hands are not that big!
ONE PERSON COMMENTED
"You attacked MLK's I had a Dream speech." Using Jeremiah 23
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True
We want to believe they made it to heaven.
There is nothing wrong with heresy. Heresy is no more than a break with what authorities reckon as orthodoxy. The higher standard is whether or not what you teach is biblical.
As Christians, what we embrace as orthodoxy is unbiblical at every turn of the page. Consider the sectarian Trinity, which declares that God is three persons: God-the-Father (GtF), God-the-Son (GtS), and God-the-Holy Spirit (GtHS). If such were true, it argues that GtF, GtS, and GtHS preexisted before creation; this means that at the most, GtF and GtS could be before creation were brothers. Whereby, as brothers, for GtF and GtS to preexist, according to Jesus's own words, GtS is greater than GtF and GtHS given he willingly and perpetually deigns himself to be a servant to the GtF and GtS (Matthew 23:11).
For black people, heresy is an unequivocal essential. The gods of Judaism, Islam, and Pauline Christianity center the veracity of their truths on our denigration and enslavement. Generally, any religion whose truths rely on the denigration of a people is a false religion. It is a false religion in that such a religion works from the presupposition that such an "evil people" lack the spiritual wherewithal to set their face upon the LORD. Given that they held their peace to ensure our freedom, our fathers did not take on the image and likeness of the ill and evil that oppressed them. Whereby it is their testimony that, having held their peace, they made space for the LORD to enter and take up their fight (Exodus 14:14). King makes mention of such a spirit in the speech he gives during the funeral of the four girls killed in Birmingham bombing.
Being aware that, according to church doctrine, salvation by grace through faith (Galatians 2:8-9) resolves works as meaningless. This Triune god, the god of Paul and this church, insists that our ancestral fathers' resolve to remain steadfast in the way of righteousness means nothing. According to this church and its doctrines, MLK, along with every black man, woman, and child, would be in better standing with its god of church orthodoxy if they'd resolve to be murderers, liars, and thieves. What this means is that the god espoused by MLK's critics shares no relationship with the Spirit of the God in which our ancestors prevailed to endure the living hell that beset them.
For MLK and any black minister who fought for our freedom and dignity, they had to delve into heresy. Noah's curse of Ham remains the central doctrine and teaching that's central to holding together the truths and beliefs of Judaism, Islam, and Pauline Christianity. And to reinforce the matter, it is "Noah's curse of Ham," given Noah's curse of Canaan (Genesis 9:18-29) has prophetic ends of which we remain oblivious. Oblivious given, due to the outcomes of the Third Punic War (149-146 BC), Canaan is dead. Canaan is forever eradicated from the Earth. It is eradicated in that there is no land or people we know as "Canaan" or "Canaanite."No white church or minister dare to advocate for the Negro's freedom. Doing so pits him against the god of his fathers and this church.
So, as descendants of the Negro slave, we're called to be heretics given the god that enslaved you cannot be the same God that frees you, else he's less than a man given such a god embodies a man who's unstable in all his ways (James 1:8). As what is Preserved and Witnessed by the Holy Ghost, King did not dwell with a double-minded god. King lived the gospel he preached.
I wish I could like your comment a million times!!
@@ernestsebastian2398, thanks for your reply. Though not a perfect man, King walked with the angels. He lived what he preached. 💓
Do you think his father was a heretic too ???
They had one of him on front row
We were bamboozled. I had read about his horrid sexual life, but this. Why not. Jesus said this would happen.
You have a beautiful family SWJ
Don't you see that big Idol they have of him and Lincoln,
what about the statue of Charles Harrison Mason how they get a pass with that.?
@@vickieheckardyep, did a whole show on that mess Lol
I think you are not fully interpreting King’s work. I was not challenged by your presentation and ask what do you want the listener to take from this? We don’t worship King but we appreciate his contribution. He was a marketplace preacher.
Then the show wasn’t for you! I did a part 2 to this.. try watching that one
@@sirwalterj agreed. Though your scholarship allows us to critically think which is different and appreciated.
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I'm not sure you got the right to speak on Mr King things was different doing his time regardless of what he did but what his business was about don't care to know but what he did for his people Judge ye not an he shall not be Judge if you look at it the right way God said go out among the hedge an the highways an the byways an you was not born when he was doing was saving you an Donald don't hole a candle to MLK Martin had more love in his little finger for God an his people's then Donald had in his whole Body an he said he was a forlasifur he did not hid anything so who are you Johnny come lately people didn't not care because to them an us he was doing a great job not greater job then God an never said that I think you should leave that man alone an go to church an an do your preaching an leave MLK alone because those things someone wrote those book as well an we don't know what's was on the mind of the man name MLK you had to be there to know what his agenda was an God gave him a job to do an he obey now go do your job an leave him alone.
Slander
You tell truth... are bold in Jesus name. Open the eyes of the saints that put people on pedestals.
Cute
MLK Jr was not only a heretic but the Bible calls him an Empty Oracle. Read Jeremiah 23 and you will see how God viewed the Civil Right Movement. From the song We Shall Overcome, the LGBTQ+ leadership of it, and the title of his most popular sermon "I have a Dream!". Civil Rights movement was not a righteous movement of God. I know that's hard to accept for some but I agree with the Word over popular opinion or emotionalism.
You’re not very articulate, sir.
This is a great podcast I learned so much. I knew he was not a Christian this gave me insight into who he really was. 👏👏👏👏👏
NEVER HEARD A WORD IF JESUS EVER!! I WAS THINKING THIS THE WHOLE TIME YOU WERE REVEALING THE TRUTH. MY GOD
A lot of theologian s are into meta physics.
I REALLY really do try to take my time and listen before saying anything. And apart of me thinks you like a good question to your analysis of things. BUT first I tell you this makes my blood boil a bit first.
Bc I wonder WHO can be Saved listening to your analysis??? Like based on the human defaults...No One! I'm even curious as to who you Think is Saved. Since Salvation is based primarily on faith and the heart. Being Born Again. Who Can Be Saved. Since only God Knows these things perfectly. Who has this knowledge? Of who's written In the lambs book of Life? When it's written prostitutes would enter the kingdom before many pharisees.
You can hear us screaming. He has 6 fingers!!!
See, I really didn’t care for MLK jr, I am more of an MX person! It was just something about MLKjr..
The Holy Spirit is using you to shake it up!!!
I’ve read his beliefs and they are indeed heretical!
John MacArthur...my other issue with him is that he told an abused woman to go back to her husband. She went to the elders of the church to ask for help for her marriage. She tried their advice and her husband did not change. Later found out he was abusing the kids. Her husband went to jail. I'm called to love my husband but not to be abused and neither should my kids.
The issue is, you said until death do you part, God will hold us to promises and words, I am not saying your should put you or your kids in danger but the does not negate the promise, I don't know the answer.
I agree! This is why I wrote the book Silly Woman That Ain't Your Husband. God is tired of his daughters and their children being abused.
@@kgar5String Well if I need to protect my kids then I would have to go. The husband broke the marriage contract as soon as he abused kids and/or wife. I am fortunate that I am not in that situation.
Great info and message Elder Jones! Thanks so much for this! 😀
Elder Jones? Sir this podcast was powerful. This actually made me think of how much i didn’t know about Dr King. Being a critical thinker is being able to hear both sides of the argument. Trial lawyer Gerry Spence taught his students that in order to present the winning argument you must tell the truth. Your argument on Dr King is on point even though this show was hard for me to watch it gave me insight on how we need to look at all sides of this matter. Me personally? I admire his accomplishments but it did not go into hero worship. The only study I have done on him, was just reading his bio.Elder Jones you hit the mark without name calling or even raising your voice, you gave a winning argument because you told the truth. Blessings to you sir
The Pentecostal church was also considered to be Theologically off. By our Brothers of Othodoxy. Baptist, and Methodist, now we fellowship together. MLK best friend Ralph Abernathy never spoke out about him being a heretic.
Holy rollers,Tongues, experiences and Tarrying for Salvation. They put us out of fellowship.
Praise THE LORD JESUS I Love your teaching on this Sensitive topic, Especially for blacks, considering what Martin Luther King done for the poor and oppressed. My friend Sir Walter Jones and Brother in CHRIST JESUS, it doesn't matter to me if ANYONE is called an Heretic ALL MEN are Fallible you me ALL. That's why GOD sent HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON to save us from death 💀 and hell. I love your research BUT I am like the City of Berea I call them the Beridians Acts 17/10,11 I checketh (continue) the scriptures daily to see 👀 the Whole Truth myself. The Gospel of CHRIST JESUS is Acts 26/18 I can give you a Plethora of Scriptures BUT in the words of my SAVIOR JESUS, Luke 9/23,24. Luke 14/26,27 becoming a disciple ALL our conversation have to begin with JESUS and end with JESUS. KEEP doing what you are doing through the HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH. Love you always D and C
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This was a fantastic show. Thank you so much. I thought you were very fair. I loved how you emphasized we can thank the LORD for using someone like MLK to bring about social change for my generation.
I saw the biography on OETA in the late 80"s or early 90's. I knew then he was only a man. No more no less.
Some think Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a heretic, too... No one's proven that to me yet.
What what about the Azusa street experienced Bishops,Elders, Pastors, who allowed Dr Martin luther the king in there pulpits. Discernment Discernment Discernment where was the power of it in the Pentecostal Holiness Churches of that time? If Dr Martin Luther King was a heretic why talk about now. He preached at Mason Temple.😢
A Knock At Midnight. Read this book. I am not convinced of heresy or hearsay. Jesus will judge us all. John 3:16
So you didn’t watch the whole show? I brought up Mason Temple my friend lol! Also, COGIC opened the doors to the Civil rights people, that was NOT a COGIC event… it was a Political gathering… like how yall let these politicians say campaign in your pulpits on Sunday Lol
Also, after ALL I read from his own writings, you STILL don’t see the “Heresy?” That’s scary
Why don't you want it talked about? You never argued it was wrong, you just don't want it said out loud.
😮😮😮😮😮 This was a great show. I’ll read through the papers on Stanford’s website. Forwarding to my Mom for review.