You are every detailers superhero! Doing this tests and giving it for free even have a spreadsheet and noting that you dont get paid doing this! Hats off to you sir!
Problem is he is spreading false information. Ceramic coatings as with anything else require proper maintenance, a simple wash is not proper maintenance. Car wash soaps will not break down mineral deposits clogging the pores of the coating, there are dedicated products for that (Carpro Descale is a joke) a few months ago I mailed Scott a bottle of product to test. This product actually works, I believe it is this very reason he has chosen not to demo said product as it would expose his lack of knowledge on coating maintenance and would have him everyone questioning all the videos he has put out falsely calling coatings failed due to loss of hydrophobics. I have reached out to him multiple times via email and commented on dozens of videos stating his findings are inaccurate due to lack of proper maintenance. Before anyone calls my abilities into question I have been detailing 23 years, training detailers for 8 while running my own shop. Years ago I was in the same mindset as Scott in regards to coatings, if a coating lost its hydrophobic properties I would call it failed. I waisted countless hours trying different products hoping something would work. After that I sat down, did a ton of research, to find out what was actually going on. Turns out that most loss of hydrophobics is due to mineral deposits clogging the pores of the coating, find a product that breaks down said mineral deposits and you get the hydrophobics back (most if the time) I personally boxed and sent a product to Scott a few months ago, yet he is still calling coatings failed due to loss of hydrophobics even know he has this product in his possession🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ This product is marketed as a waterspot remover, but the truth is it absolutely sucks in that regards so it sat on the shelf for a few months. Then a pickup I applied a coating to 3 years prior came in for maintenance, the coating appeared to be completely dead. 3 washes later with Carpro Reset and still had 0 hydrophobicity, 2 washes with Carpro Descale and zero change. I decided to try this failed waterspot remover, sprayed it the driver front door, let it dwell for about 45 seconds then wiped it with a fresh wash mitt and rinsed with the pressure washer. The hydrophobics were at around 50% of new, I sprayed the same door and let dwell almost 1 minute the wiped with the wash mitt and rinsed with the pressure washer, and holy shit it was like I had just coated the truck. Nonthis was not a 1 off fluke, 15-20 vehicles in a row with similar results. Another thing, almost all of Scott's tests you can clearly see the panels have have waterspots causing the coatings water behavior to change, anyone that know what they are looking at can see the water spots simply by the shaped of the water beads and hiw the water runs off the panels. A panel with waterspots bead and sheet water completely different from one without waterspots. This product is Owners Pride Spotless, do yourself a favor and get some.
I mean......how can you really expect ANYTHING to last 1.5 YEARS! I'm impressed any of them still were effective. Especially the cheap ones. Love the tests Scott... keep it up. thanks
The Adams Coding was impressive it’s crazy that you can use acid wheel cleaner to bring back a coating it’s two Ball Z for me to put acid wheel cleaner on my paint but it definitely did bring it back thanks for these great videos
I like seeing how these products hold up in your environment. I think some forget how much of an impact environment has on products and how diverse these environments are. I have used several coatings that do not react well to acid decon and others seem to take it well. Curious what the chemistry difference is between them. Thank you for the tests you do!!!
Scott if you ever run out of tests to have running or allow yourself the luxury of getting bored for once ;) I would love to see you run some of these tests again with the same products and everything, but run them with a tighter maintenance schedule to see what changes. It just seems like there are some products that may benefit from them much more and some that may obviously be hurt. For example it's one thing to see that Descale pretty much killed off a couple coatings you considered weak, but brought Adams back to a non failed point. I'd love to see which coatings actually benefit from the tighter maintenance schedule and decon and which don't. It'd be nice to see if the ones that didn't benefit from it die off early or if it then starts to help them because they still had enough strength to reject it and they last longer. It'd be nice to see what someone can get out of these in optimal situations and maybe even find out the points when it becomes better to just dedicate another couple hours to polish and re-coat or something instead of the next scheduled decon wash because realistically the decon wash at that point in time is just gonna kill off the rest of what it has, rather than unclog it. I know it's a lot to think of and to do it "optimally" from coating to coating would be a logistical nightmare due to different instructions, but at the same time I think it's very doable to think of a basic generic sorta maintenance and decon schedule to apply to everything in the same manner across the board that pretty much takes care of the coatings in a manner that pretty much does what they suggest.
hey scott, all these tests are great, but i never seen anyone use a pain of glass then put a uv light one side and actually measure the uv block properties on them. I feel with red and dark cars this is going to be biggest killer of paint. Anyway a thought.
Another great test Scott! In a future test(s), can you add Zirconite products: ZQ9H, Boosta, and ZG-365? These have recently become available in the U.S.
Awesome video bro! Do you think it was that the wheel cleaner brought them back, or do you think it's that it took multiple steps of decontamination??? Maybe you should do a decon every 6 months or so that way you don't end up marking them out when they really just need decon....also would be good to see if they keep lasting a long time after decon or if they 'die' fast after decon.
I have Ethos Graphine (B&B?) on one car for 3 years, Adam's Graphene on two others for 2. Both still strong BUT: I wash them at least bi- weekly and use Bead Maker as a drying aid. Great videos!
Beadmakers hydrophobics are at best up to 1 month and does not match a true ceramic coating, the true characteristics of the coating will shine brightly as opposed to the topper.
@@AdonisDetail I didn't think so but when my Ethos APC was shipped out of Colorado I thought B&B could have been helping you keep up with demand. I stand corrected. Thank you.
Scott, you hit the "nail on the head" in the first minute. It's marketing, nothing more. Well actually, there is something more... the very dangerous graphene that gets ingested by those who use it.
Hey Scott, Can you do a video of just talking about regular ceramic vs graphene ceramic? I'd like to hear your opinion if there are any differences. From what i've seen from all your videos there isn't, just curious to see if you have more comments on it
With Avatar 2 coming out, maybe the next buzzword will be unobtainium. "The way of the water.....phobics" I think I remember you clay bar/mitting one of the test hoods awhile back and that really brought quite a few back to life so I would definitely like to see that again. If you want to do a battle royal with a few of the top performers, I wouldn't mind seeing how they do on a hood that's clayed and polished on one half and the other half just clayed. Like, how well do these all-star coatings do on ideally prepared surfaces(washed, clayed, polished) and less than ideal surfaces(washed and maybe clayed). Basically, what is the least amount of effort can we put into taking care of our cars? hahahahaaa
Ethos is blended by B&B Blending. B&B Blending is Adam's sister company and both are owned by Recochem. One viewpoint is that Adams is Recochem's premier brand, so anything B&B makes for Adams will be top-shelf compared to what they white label for other brands such as Ethos.
anyone with a brain would know that these products contain ZERO graphine. graphine is a single atom thick layer honeycomb structure of material made specifically from carbon. you wouldn't be able to spray it out of a bottle, and it doesn't have hydrophobic properties. if you chopped it up so it would spray it would just be reduced to carbon atoms and useless black liquid. its not the new do all material. its not something you can make by spraying on something and wiping it away. might as well grind up some coal and dust your car with it. that way you can convert your fairy magic into horse power and make the car float.
You are every detailers superhero! Doing this tests and giving it for free even have a spreadsheet and noting that you dont get paid doing this! Hats off to you sir!
Problem is he is spreading false information. Ceramic coatings as with anything else require proper maintenance, a simple wash is not proper maintenance. Car wash soaps will not break down mineral deposits clogging the pores of the coating, there are dedicated products for that (Carpro Descale is a joke) a few months ago I mailed Scott a bottle of product to test. This product actually works, I believe it is this very reason he has chosen not to demo said product as it would expose his lack of knowledge on coating maintenance and would have him everyone questioning all the videos he has put out falsely calling coatings failed due to loss of hydrophobics. I have reached out to him multiple times via email and commented on dozens of videos stating his findings are inaccurate due to lack of proper maintenance.
Before anyone calls my abilities into question I have been detailing 23 years, training detailers for 8 while running my own shop. Years ago I was in the same mindset as Scott in regards to coatings, if a coating lost its hydrophobic properties I would call it failed. I waisted countless hours trying different products hoping something would work. After that I sat down, did a ton of research, to find out what was actually going on. Turns out that most loss of hydrophobics is due to mineral deposits clogging the pores of the coating, find a product that breaks down said mineral deposits and you get the hydrophobics back (most if the time) I personally boxed and sent a product to Scott a few months ago, yet he is still calling coatings failed due to loss of hydrophobics even know he has this product in his possession🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
This product is marketed as a waterspot remover, but the truth is it absolutely sucks in that regards so it sat on the shelf for a few months. Then a pickup I applied a coating to 3 years prior came in for maintenance, the coating appeared to be completely dead. 3 washes later with Carpro Reset and still had 0 hydrophobicity, 2 washes with Carpro Descale and zero change. I decided to try this failed waterspot remover, sprayed it the driver front door, let it dwell for about 45 seconds then wiped it with a fresh wash mitt and rinsed with the pressure washer. The hydrophobics were at around 50% of new, I sprayed the same door and let dwell almost 1 minute the wiped with the wash mitt and rinsed with the pressure washer, and holy shit it was like I had just coated the truck. Nonthis was not a 1 off fluke, 15-20 vehicles in a row with similar results.
Another thing, almost all of Scott's tests you can clearly see the panels have have waterspots causing the coatings water behavior to change, anyone that know what they are looking at can see the water spots simply by the shaped of the water beads and hiw the water runs off the panels. A panel with waterspots bead and sheet water completely different from one without waterspots.
This product is Owners Pride Spotless, do yourself a favor and get some.
The Adams come back was insane...thanks for this long haul test
OK, we need you back! PLEASE come back!!!
I mean......how can you really expect ANYTHING to last 1.5 YEARS! I'm impressed any of them still were effective. Especially the cheap ones. Love the tests Scott... keep it up. thanks
I'm doing a test right now with ethos pro graphene vs system x max vs nanopro borophene, all 10 year coatings
Thanks Tom Hanks 🙌🤣 good work as always
Ha!
Thank you Scott!
The Adams Coding was impressive it’s crazy that you can use acid wheel cleaner to bring back a coating it’s two Ball Z for me to put acid wheel cleaner on my paint but it definitely did bring it back thanks for these great videos
Thank you Scott for all of your hard work.
Thanks Scott!
I like seeing how these products hold up in your environment. I think some forget how much of an impact environment has on products and how diverse these environments are. I have used several coatings that do not react well to acid decon and others seem to take it well. Curious what the chemistry difference is between them. Thank you for the tests you do!!!
Awesome Video! That duragloss worked great!
Scott if you ever run out of tests to have running or allow yourself the luxury of getting bored for once ;) I would love to see you run some of these tests again with the same products and everything, but run them with a tighter maintenance schedule to see what changes.
It just seems like there are some products that may benefit from them much more and some that may obviously be hurt.
For example it's one thing to see that Descale pretty much killed off a couple coatings you considered weak, but brought Adams back to a non failed point. I'd love to see which coatings actually benefit from the tighter maintenance schedule and decon and which don't. It'd be nice to see if the ones that didn't benefit from it die off early or if it then starts to help them because they still had enough strength to reject it and they last longer. It'd be nice to see what someone can get out of these in optimal situations and maybe even find out the points when it becomes better to just dedicate another couple hours to polish and re-coat or something instead of the next scheduled decon wash because realistically the decon wash at that point in time is just gonna kill off the rest of what it has, rather than unclog it.
I know it's a lot to think of and to do it "optimally" from coating to coating would be a logistical nightmare due to different instructions, but at the same time I think it's very doable to think of a basic generic sorta maintenance and decon schedule to apply to everything in the same manner across the board that pretty much takes care of the coatings in a manner that pretty much does what they suggest.
another great video.!!
Glad I never got into the graphene craze. I'm good with the "ceramic" stuff. Thanks for all you do.
Graphene is a ceramic
Wow, is Adams the MVP now?
EVO pro graphene performed well and this formula performed as expected the new formula will be shipped for the next test 👍
Thanks Scott for these videos! Do you think you could somehow do a gloss test video?
Nice test - as always :)
hey scott, all these tests are great, but i never seen anyone use a pain of glass then put a uv light one side and actually measure the uv block properties on them. I feel with red and dark cars this is going to be biggest killer of paint. Anyway a thought.
Your strong chemical clean showing that pollutants/dirt affects the hydrophobics. Perhaps these ones have had 'dirt armour' until now
It's not a dirt - mineral deposits block hydro the most - you can easly see it after acid cleaner. Acid dissolve mineral deposits
Another great test Scott! In a future test(s), can you add Zirconite products: ZQ9H, Boosta, and ZG-365? These have recently become available in the U.S.
Good work
I’ve been using OP spotless for sometime now for rejuvenating coatings. Works good along with DeScale.
Awesome video bro! Do you think it was that the wheel cleaner brought them back, or do you think it's that it took multiple steps of decontamination???
Maybe you should do a decon every 6 months or so that way you don't end up marking them out when they really just need decon....also would be good to see if they keep lasting a long time after decon or if they 'die' fast after decon.
Interesting! Ty
Maybe on one of your finished hoods can you hit it with Meguiars Hybrid ceramic detail spray and see if hydrophobic properties are revived
I have Ethos Graphine (B&B?) on one car for 3 years, Adam's Graphene on two others for 2. Both still strong BUT: I wash them at least bi- weekly and use Bead Maker as a drying aid. Great videos!
How do you know for sure the coatings are still strong if use Bead Maker biweekly the latter is the one providing the hydrophobics.
Beadmakers hydrophobics are at best up to 1 month and does not match a true ceramic coating, the true characteristics of the coating will shine brightly as opposed to the topper.
What’s up Kae! Ethos has no affiliation with B&B.
@@AdonisDetail I didn't think so but when my Ethos APC was shipped out of Colorado I thought B&B could have been helping you keep up with demand. I stand corrected. Thank you.
I don't hear Tom Hanks, no way. Thanks!
You dont sound like hanks
Thanks for the test! Heads up I think you wrote the wrong weather for lifetime only going back to April 22 instead of April 21
Good catch! You are correct! I think I put the correct info but wrong caption!
Great
Scott, you hit the "nail on the head" in the first minute. It's marketing, nothing more. Well actually, there is something more... the very dangerous graphene that gets ingested by those who use it.
whats a good ceramic/graphene coating to apply to PPF? Im looking at Cquartz UK, Nufinish Graphene, or 3N1 Griots.
Hey Scott, Can you do a video of just talking about regular ceramic vs graphene ceramic? I'd like to hear your opinion if there are any differences. From what i've seen from all your videos there isn't, just curious to see if you have more comments on it
Definitely!
Which is the best graphene coating? And if the best is pretty expensive, is there a lower priced coating that’s about just as good?
With Avatar 2 coming out, maybe the next buzzword will be unobtainium. "The way of the water.....phobics"
I think I remember you clay bar/mitting one of the test hoods awhile back and that really brought quite a few back to life so I would definitely like to see that again.
If you want to do a battle royal with a few of the top performers, I wouldn't mind seeing how they do on a hood that's clayed and polished on one half and the other half just clayed. Like, how well do these all-star coatings do on ideally prepared surfaces(washed, clayed, polished) and less than ideal surfaces(washed and maybe clayed). Basically, what is the least amount of effort can we put into taking care of our cars? hahahahaaa
Did you happen to try REVIVIFY CERAMIC PRO ("Self-healing) ?
How does aluminum cleaner bring back the grapheme coating ????? How does that make sense? A good soap can’t but aluminum cleaner can?
Is that excel doc avail to look at somewhere?
Adams says it will last 10 years which is crazy to say because this kind of shows otherwise no?
I didn’t think Tom Hanks until now 😂
Is it true that Adams and Ethos is the same? I have an unused bottle of Ethos Graphene V2
Ethos is blended by B&B Blending. B&B Blending is Adam's sister company and both are owned by Recochem. One viewpoint is that Adams is Recochem's premier brand, so anything B&B makes for Adams will be top-shelf compared to what they white label for other brands such as Ethos.
Ethos is not white label or lesser quality to Adams.
@@jetblackcoopers stop spreading misinformation
too bad sps doesnt sell to consumers directly. No way in the world I'd pay an installer to install it... I guess I'll have to use something else
First comment! Yay!
Must be an earthquake in Puerto Rico…
anyone with a brain would know that these products contain ZERO graphine.
graphine is a single atom thick layer honeycomb structure of material made specifically from carbon.
you wouldn't be able to spray it out of a bottle, and it doesn't have hydrophobic properties. if you chopped it up so it would spray it would just be reduced to carbon atoms and useless black liquid.
its not the new do all material. its not something you can make by spraying on something and wiping it away.
might as well grind up some coal and dust your car with it. that way you can convert your fairy magic into horse power and make the car float.
We beg to differ. ;)
Where is your chemistry degree from?