As a mostly "hammock guy", the tarp is fundamental to me. I figure we should all know how to do at least three different ground setups for tarps, because not everywhere has suitable trees to throw a tarp and hammock up in :)
I realise that tarps are very versetile and I have several and love them....but, for this design of pitch, that seems to take more effort and time than the equivalent set up for a standard A frame tent! Plus, the tent will have closed off ends and a floor....which for many ultra light tents, don't weigh a great deal more. I still love tarps, but there are better ways of using one for a tent shelter. The open front pyramid style is fab and better for rain and cold and with two poles spread as an A frame shape, allows clear and free space for two people. Very clear video though and really well put together. 👍🏻
Great and instructive video. I am new to tarpology and this is the first video of yours I have seen. I will keep further look out for you in my thirst for tarp knowledge.
I've been ground dwelling since The Bushcraft Show. Only done one night in the hammock since then (because I had no choice, and I was out camping at one of Bob's local haunts where the ground is simply not "dwellable") I've gotten quite comfortable on the ground these days :)
An extremely informative, helpful and well put together video. Many thanks Simon. I have just purchased the same DD tarp you are using. I like the fact you reiterate that there are "no absolutes" in tarping. Great advice. By the way, does it matter whether the trekking poles are handles up or down? I've seen some people doing it with the feet taken off the poles and the pointed end passed through the tarp eyelets at the top of the a-frame. I think in this video you just balanced the tarp on top of your pole handles - is that correct?
I just noticed that you recommended putting the pegs in "at an angle". Maybe that's the recommendation for L or angle shaped stakes, however, I recently watched a video where the demo used the SR mini-groundhog stake and the recommendation was to be perpendicular to the ground. I can see why both recommendations are good, however, I have to give the perpendicular version a +1... as there is essentially the same amount of dirt and surface tension on all sides of the stake and there is also this leaver effect... where the guyline is pulling in one direction there is an opposite force at the point of the stake. Also it appears that you might be pointing the wrong end toward the tarp for that L stake.
Richard Bucker From my experience putting the pegs in at 90 degrees to the line is the better option because the peg is bot being pulled out so the dirt over the peg would have to move for the peg to loosen. Just put a peg perpendicular to the ground and try if it's harder to pull it out straight or to the side and you'll see it's probably gonna be the side.
Easier without a ridge line? How easy is it when a tab tears out in the wind, and you try to re-pitch the tarp in the dark? Tarps are seldom stout canvas. If you plan on a long trip, torn out tabs are a major problem. They are no problem with a brand new tarp making a video in calm air in your garden, but in real life, take any strain on a line you can. Torn out tabs leak like crazy, as well as causing midnight collapses.
I hike in some extreme weather. A collapse in a storm can lead to hypothermia. Not much of a concern to RUclips sofa campers, but in the real world…..yes, at times it can have dire effects.
Im working on a very similiar design but my set up has a floor and will have walls at the ends my set up will be just like the pup tents i had as a child im using harbor freight tarps for my tent I had the basic structure set up in the yard for a week now its rained several times no troubles and today the wind is quite gusty still no troubles so Ill be moving forward with the tent soon enough
That's a Hella of lot of fiddling around!! Not the quick setup every hiker and back packer truly need's good luck with that time consuming setup With rain wind's etc,have you tried this out beyond your back garden!??? Doubt that wery much
All the little tips you have are great! I slept mostly in tents but video like this are converting me to a tarp setup in future.
As a mostly "hammock guy", the tarp is fundamental to me. I figure we should all know how to do at least three different ground setups for tarps, because not everywhere has suitable trees to throw a tarp and hammock up in :)
I realise that tarps are very versetile and I have several and love them....but, for this design of pitch, that seems to take more effort and time than the equivalent set up for a standard A frame tent! Plus, the tent will have closed off ends and a floor....which for many ultra light tents, don't weigh a great deal more. I still love tarps, but there are better ways of using one for a tent shelter. The open front pyramid style is fab and better for rain and cold and with two poles spread as an A frame shape, allows clear and free space for two people.
Very clear video though and really well put together. 👍🏻
Excellent commentary. Very clear and a joy too follow. Thank you.
Thank you so much, I’ve been looking for this kinda video for a long time
Great and instructive video. I am new to tarpology and this is the first video of yours I have seen. I will keep further look out for you in my thirst for tarp knowledge.
Excellent video, Perfect commentary. Thanks
thank you.. just what i need to be able to tarp over my pop up tent👍
Thanks for this! I’m new to this without anyone to show me. I kept getting my tarp up all wonky and couldn’t figure out why.
Top notch video mate. Cheers👍🏼
hello from 2020! this is very helpful, thank you!
'mornin, Simon; Nice easy set-up will work just fine ! ATB Terry God Bless
Excellent
Another useful setup - very clear instruction...love tarps, so very versatile !
Interesting idea mate. As we are within winter now I'm ditching the hammock and will groundwork instead and may have to try this one. A.T.B
J.C
I've been ground dwelling since The Bushcraft Show. Only done one night in the hammock since then (because I had no choice, and I was out camping at one of Bob's local haunts where the ground is simply not "dwellable")
I've gotten quite comfortable on the ground these days :)
very simple. thanks.
Just wondering, why not just move the pegs from one side to the middle, rather then moving both side in by 1/4 each?
An extremely informative, helpful and well put together video. Many thanks Simon. I have just purchased the same DD tarp you are using. I like the fact you reiterate that there are "no absolutes" in tarping. Great advice. By the way, does it matter whether the trekking poles are handles up or down? I've seen some people doing it with the feet taken off the poles and the pointed end passed through the tarp eyelets at the top of the a-frame. I think in this video you just balanced the tarp on top of your pole handles - is that correct?
Good video my friend, but I think I would have a lower peak, just my thought. You did mention to his, his own. Thank you for the video!
Thanks!
On the money 💰
So you can shorten the length just like you did the width, thx you definitely answered a question that I had....
I just noticed that you recommended putting the pegs in "at an angle". Maybe that's the recommendation for L or angle shaped stakes, however, I recently watched a video where the demo used the SR mini-groundhog stake and the recommendation was to be perpendicular to the ground. I can see why both recommendations are good, however, I have to give the perpendicular version a +1... as there is essentially the same amount of dirt and surface tension on all sides of the stake and there is also this leaver effect... where the guyline is pulling in one direction there is an opposite force at the point of the stake. Also it appears that you might be pointing the wrong end toward the tarp for that L stake.
Richard Bucker From my experience putting the pegs in at 90 degrees to the line is the better option because the peg is bot being pulled out so the dirt over the peg would have to move for the peg to loosen. Just put a peg perpendicular to the ground and try if it's harder to pull it out straight or to the side and you'll see it's probably gonna be the side.
How sturdy is this in moderate to strong wind?
This is to long winded just set up the poles then peg down the sides simple and easy
Couldn't be clearer.
4x4 DD looks same as mine
What tarp is this? I want one
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Easier without a ridge line? How easy is it when a tab tears out in the wind, and you try to re-pitch the tarp in the dark? Tarps are seldom stout canvas. If you plan on a long trip, torn out tabs are a major problem. They are no problem with a brand new tarp making a video in calm air in your garden, but in real life, take any strain on a line you can. Torn out tabs leak like crazy, as well as causing midnight collapses.
You make it seem like when a tab is torn, it's game over 😂
I hike in some extreme weather. A collapse in a storm can lead to hypothermia. Not much of a concern to RUclips sofa campers, but in the real world…..yes, at times it can have dire effects.
😵💫
Im working on a very similiar design but my set up has a floor and will have walls at the ends my set up will be just like the pup tents i had as a child
im using harbor freight tarps for my tent
I had the basic structure set up in the yard for a week now its rained several times no troubles and today the wind is quite gusty still no troubles so
Ill be moving forward with the tent soon enough
🤣
Bacwas
That's a Hella of lot of fiddling around!! Not the quick setup every hiker and back packer truly need's good luck with that time consuming setup With rain wind's etc,have you tried this out beyond your back garden!??? Doubt that wery much