Those who live in a trailer do so because it is cheap, and when we buy one, we understand that safety is an issue, but so is affordability. I live in a 26-foot camper, don't take away my rights to have an affordable home, what are the chances that a tornado would have happened,
@@elizabethcherry920 it doesnt really cost much to build a shelter, most of the lot rent at mobile home parks are due to property owners trying to squeeze every last drop of money out of people, the park i live in luckily is cheap, and we have a shelter under the main office also some of the doublewides built on a foundation do have their own underground crawlspace shelters. Yet my lot rent is only $355 a month, were every other place around is over $600 a month which is more than we were paying to live in a Section 9 apartment in our town. I hope this park never gets sold because if it does i dont think most of the residence will be able to afford the lot rent.
So essentially what you're saying is, "People of subsistent means should be required to have their everyday financial well being negatively impacted to insure themselves against a potentially deadly threat that will have a better than 99% chance of never happening." Yeah, that sounds like using your fancy new iPhone to broadcast your privilege, while enjoying some fancy beverage from Starbucks that cost $8, not legitimate concern for people who live in mobile home parks. 🙄
Where I live lot rent is now $680 a month! We have nothing extra but a $300 a month increase they can definitely afford shelters. They are not adding more for residents but increasing rent like crazy.
I live in a mobile home park only a few miles from Pavilion Estates and I feel for the people who have gone through this. Believe it or not, parks are not required to provide shelters, and the vast majority of them don't. My park is one of them; they are more interested in putting in a swimming pool than a storm shelter. At least that was the situation before yesterday; maybe they will take what happened at Pavilion as a wake-up call, but I doubt it. Now here's the ugly reality that perhaps the news isn't going to cover. For many people, this story is not going to have a happy ending. Insurance may not cover the amount needed to replace a destroyed older mobile home with a newer one. What happens then? Well, these people just vanish. What happens to them isn't important to the broader community, which may even give a sigh of relief. I know nobody is saying this right now, but as I said, I live in a mobile home park myself and I know that Pavilion Estates does not have the best of reputations. I know this because I used to live in a park very much like Pavilion Estates and I know what homeowners in my community said about it and still say about it, right to my face, even those people who know me. That's the ugly side about living in a mobile home park, and yes, we need to talk about it. Especially now. Because mobile home parks have such a negative reputation, they attract predatory investors that see them as an easy way to make money from a vulnerable population that nobody really gives a damn about. This is from Mobile Home University, a website offering advice on investing in mobile home parks. "But not all real estate can maintain occupancy and income when the economy goes down the drain so you have to choose wisely. Of the best positioned niches, mobile home parks stand out from the crowd for several reasons: "They represent the last tenet of affordable housing in the U.S. They are basically the dollar store of housing with nothing even remotely approaching their price point. As America goes into a tailspin, the demand for affordable housing goes up exponentially. "Mobile home parks have insanely low rents that can go up significantly despite American doom and gloom. The average mobile home park lot rent is around $300 per month at a time in which the average apartment rent is $2,000 per month. Mobile home park rents could double - and will do so - and they will still be by far the lowest cost form of housing. "The supply of mobile home parks is capped so there will be no further competition. As investors figure out the desirability of mobile home park investing they will not be able to flood the market as has happened with apartments, namely because virtually every city and town in the U.S. has banned new mobile home park construction since the 1970s." Read again the paragraph about insanely low rents--$300 a month versus $2000 per month--and now put yourself in the shoes of those people at Pavilion Estates who have just lost their homes. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE FACING. I don't know anyone who lives in Pavilion Estates but I can tell you that they are living there because they can't afford to live elsewhere. They can't afford that $2000 a month apartment rent. They can't afford a mortgage. They can probably only barely afford lot rent. And now that is gone. What are these people going to do? Where are they going to go? A month from now, six months from now, a year from now, will there be any follow-up from reporters? I doubt it.
And not only raising the lot rent, our park management go around taking pictures and telling you what to fix at your expense. Much of it petty. I'd like to have a carport, but no, that's not permitted...if you want something like that you have to have a garage. I can't afford to put in a garage! My heart goes out to those who live in Pavilion. Many homes damaged there.
@@deanvoss7098 Yup, no sympathy for others. No attempt at understanding. I got my nice safe home because I made all the right decisions in life so I could afford it. I'll never be in the position of these poor slobs who are so foolish as to live in a park like that. What happened to them is entirely on them. You are so right, it is pissing in the wind. Why indeed should we care about those people? There but for the grace of God go I? What a foolish, foolish notion! There is no "there but". God's grace has nothing to do with my good fortune because I am entitled to that good fortune. He never intended me to be in any other position anyway.
@@theresemalmberg955 wow so confident life will never give you a situation such as a terminally ill child, where you either stop working and change everything to care for them or let them die alone, many people have worked hard and owned a home only to have unforeseen circumstances to upend it all.
I live in a mobile home community, and they have a storm shelter under the basketball court. Residents are welcome, but pets are not. My dog and I prepare to leave and leave ahead of time.
Yet mobile home parks are just a crap shoot in tornado Alley. People know the high risk when they move in. It's affordable living in today's struggling economy and land owners take advantage of it.
Here's the thing. Some places have those, BUT, they're getting RID of them. Why you ask? Well, believe it or not so the entity that owns it, public or private, doesn't get sued for liability reasons. Either by people getting hurt on premises whether there was a tornado or not, or by people attempting to reach them getting hurt in a storm not making it in time. You gotta love lawyers, I tell ya'.
Said nobody who understands the everyday financial plight of people who live in such places. When you say ignorant crap like this, you're essentially flipping the residents of these mobile home parks the bird while sipping on some fancy Starbucks drink that costs more than their everyday food. Talk about privilege.
Anybody that owns a trailer park should have a place where people can go underground when tornadoes hit when you live in tornado alley that's common sense.I don't live in a trouble and I won't live in a driver
Maybe they could add in a mandatory storm shelter with every sale. Trailer park landowners should be mandated to put several shelters on the property. Nothing wring with the trailer, just make shelters available.
Take your conspiracy theories Trump thinking crazy talk to Dubai where they’re filthy rich and think they can do anything & GOD showed them they have no power against his so Dubai is under water
Imagine the hysterics over automobiles and safety features. Ol George got what was coming to him by driving that tin can faster than a horse can run. There would be many more deaths today if safety features were never added. Cars may have been banned. Same with mobile homes dude. There's always room for improvement... you should try it.
Why? As long as you know the risks and are responsible about it, you can live pretty much anywhere... wheels or no wheels. Dummies live in regular houses too ya know. It's not the structure, it's the occupant who usually causes issues.
It wouldn't cost that much to dig a hole. Maybe some other countries of the world can give us some money for it. Apparently we're always broke when it comes to the taxpayers needs. Also, it's the same with a lot of apartments. No basement.
Isn’t a mobile home community able to build a shelter? No offense but this wouldn’t be too hard to build. As a community they could help one another build one. That’s a lot more constructive than looking for those to blame. Especially if you live in tornado alley
This scenario is no longer true, Due to HUD manufacturing criteria, mobile homes are now built to same spec as stick built home. The anchoring process, if done properly is equally as stable as a home on a tradition foundation. If all mobile home parks should have to put in shelters, then every home should have to put a shelter. Media outlets tend to fixate on more dramatic images of tornado destruction, and trailer park devastation makes for better headlines.
❤❤❤❤❤❤ That's why they buy it so cheap for., You get what you pay for. They want more regulations. They will raise the prices up., That's why you gotta have good insurance.
Lol demanding that your toothpick homes need to be built better? How about common sense saying buy a more sturdy home on a foundation with a basement or shelter? My common sense says if im worried about weather, im not buying a home without some of the above-mentioned. It sucks, but you get what you pay for ig
People know the dangers of living in a mobile home. Mobile home parks do need a shelter for safety.
There definitely should be a requirement for mobile home communities to have a storm shelter for their residents.
Those who live in a trailer do so because it is cheap, and when we buy one, we understand that safety is an issue, but so is affordability. I live in a 26-foot camper, don't take away my rights to have an affordable home, what are the chances that a tornado would have happened,
@@elizabethcherry920 it doesnt really cost much to build a shelter, most of the lot rent at mobile home parks are due to property owners trying to squeeze every last drop of money out of people, the park i live in luckily is cheap, and we have a shelter under the main office also some of the doublewides built on a foundation do have their own underground crawlspace shelters. Yet my lot rent is only $355 a month, were every other place around is over $600 a month which is more than we were paying to live in a Section 9 apartment in our town. I hope this park never gets sold because if it does i dont think most of the residence will be able to afford the lot rent.
I agree!
Not only mobile homes but include houses as well.
So essentially what you're saying is, "People of subsistent means should be required to have their everyday financial well being negatively impacted to insure themselves against a potentially deadly threat that will have a better than 99% chance of never happening."
Yeah, that sounds like using your fancy new iPhone to broadcast your privilege, while enjoying some fancy beverage from Starbucks that cost $8, not legitimate concern for people who live in mobile home parks.
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Where I live lot rent is now $680 a month! We have nothing extra but a $300 a month increase they can definitely afford shelters. They are not adding more for residents but increasing rent like crazy.
My lot rent has increased by $150 per month over the last 3.5 years thanks to Joe Biden. "Bidenomics, it's working". 😂
I wonder what their annual taxes are. I bet it's stupid high. If the gov didn't rob us life would be cheaper.
I live in a mobile home park only a few miles from Pavilion Estates and I feel for the people who have gone through this. Believe it or not, parks are not required to provide shelters, and the vast majority of them don't. My park is one of them; they are more interested in putting in a swimming pool than a storm shelter. At least that was the situation before yesterday; maybe they will take what happened at Pavilion as a wake-up call, but I doubt it.
Now here's the ugly reality that perhaps the news isn't going to cover. For many people, this story is not going to have a happy ending. Insurance may not cover the amount needed to replace a destroyed older mobile home with a newer one. What happens then? Well, these people just vanish. What happens to them isn't important to the broader community, which may even give a sigh of relief. I know nobody is saying this right now, but as I said, I live in a mobile home park myself and I know that Pavilion Estates does not have the best of reputations. I know this because I used to live in a park very much like Pavilion Estates and I know what homeowners in my community said about it and still say about it, right to my face, even those people who know me. That's the ugly side about living in a mobile home park, and yes, we need to talk about it. Especially now.
Because mobile home parks have such a negative reputation, they attract predatory investors that see them as an easy way to make money from a vulnerable population that nobody really gives a damn about. This is from Mobile Home University, a website offering advice on investing in mobile home parks. "But not all real estate can maintain occupancy and income when the economy goes down the drain so you have to choose wisely. Of the best positioned niches, mobile home parks stand out from the crowd for several reasons:
"They represent the last tenet of affordable housing in the U.S. They are basically the dollar store of housing with nothing even remotely approaching their price point. As America goes into a tailspin, the demand for affordable housing goes up exponentially.
"Mobile home parks have insanely low rents that can go up significantly despite American doom and gloom. The average mobile home park lot rent is around $300 per month at a time in which the average apartment rent is $2,000 per month. Mobile home park rents could double - and will do so - and they will still be by far the lowest cost form of housing.
"The supply of mobile home parks is capped so there will be no further competition. As investors figure out the desirability of mobile home park investing they will not be able to flood the market as has happened with apartments, namely because virtually every city and town in the U.S. has banned new mobile home park construction since the 1970s."
Read again the paragraph about insanely low rents--$300 a month versus $2000 per month--and now put yourself in the shoes of those people at Pavilion Estates who have just lost their homes. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE FACING. I don't know anyone who lives in Pavilion Estates but I can tell you that they are living there because they can't afford to live elsewhere. They can't afford that $2000 a month apartment rent. They can't afford a mortgage. They can probably only barely afford lot rent. And now that is gone. What are these people going to do? Where are they going to go? A month from now, six months from now, a year from now, will there be any follow-up from reporters? I doubt it.
And not only raising the lot rent, our park management go around taking pictures and telling you what to fix at your expense. Much of it petty. I'd like to have a carport, but no, that's not permitted...if you want something like that you have to have a garage. I can't afford to put in a garage!
My heart goes out to those who live in Pavilion. Many homes damaged there.
People chose to live there though ain't nobody is forcing them so you are just pissing in the wind unfortunately
@@deanvoss7098 Yup, no sympathy for others. No attempt at understanding. I got my nice safe home because I made all the right decisions in life so I could afford it. I'll never be in the position of these poor slobs who are so foolish as to live in a park like that. What happened to them is entirely on them. You are so right, it is pissing in the wind. Why indeed should we care about those people? There but for the grace of God go I? What a foolish, foolish notion! There is no "there but". God's grace has nothing to do with my good fortune because I am entitled to that good fortune. He never intended me to be in any other position anyway.
No. Basically all those folks just became victims of the USA homeless population the Government does not give one red cent of care about.
@@theresemalmberg955 wow so confident life will never give you a situation such as a terminally ill child, where you either stop working and change everything to care for them or let them die alone, many people have worked hard and owned a home only to have unforeseen circumstances to upend it all.
I live in a mobile home community, and they have a storm shelter under the basketball court. Residents are welcome, but pets are not. My dog and I prepare to leave and leave ahead of time.
Many blessings to all effected.
Yet mobile home parks are just a crap shoot in tornado Alley. People know the high risk when they move in. It's affordable living in today's struggling economy and land owners take advantage of it.
More community shelters in general is a good idea!
Here's the thing. Some places have those, BUT, they're getting RID of them.
Why you ask? Well, believe it or not so the entity that owns it, public or private, doesn't get sued for liability reasons. Either by people getting hurt on premises whether there was a tornado or not, or by people attempting to reach them getting hurt in a storm not making it in time. You gotta love lawyers, I tell ya'.
@@scarpfish Oh for cryin' out loud in a bucket!
You can get it as safe as you want. You just have to pay for it. That then makes them unaffordable.
They wouldn’t be able to afford them then. Just a sad fact.
Greed knows no boundaries! Pay more get nothing. But common sense, people who live in mobile home parks, the parks need sound shelters.
Giant trees next to mobile homes are terrifying. Even big 2 story, well built homes don't fair well. But, most have basements, at least.😮
I live in a mobile home park and the office will not let us shelter there during tornadoes.
All mobile home parks should be required to have shelters.
Said nobody who understands the everyday financial plight of people who live in such places.
When you say ignorant crap like this, you're essentially flipping the residents of these mobile home parks the bird while sipping on some fancy Starbucks drink that costs more than their everyday food. Talk about privilege.
@@scarpfishI think you misunderstood this comment 😂
If a mobile home park can't afford to put in shelters, maybe they are not managing the park appropriately. Greed.
Or it's an expense that they would have to pass on to park residents who are often on a fixed income.
Anybody that owns a trailer park should have a place where people can go underground when tornadoes hit when you live in tornado alley that's common sense.I don't live in a trouble and I won't live in a driver
Sounds like you're privileged and want to push your meaningless, comments section idealism onto people who can't afford it.
Well get ready for more expensive mobile homes if you want them to be safer instead of simply convenient and affordable.
Maybe they could add in a mandatory storm shelter with every sale. Trailer park landowners should be mandated to put several shelters on the property. Nothing wring with the trailer, just make shelters available.
The argument is that like all greedy capitalists, they would pass the cost on to the already struggling tenants
Staying up with you.. my prayers are with you...
Hey, Gretch! Show me a mobile home "foundation".
Gretchen never heard of Hurricane Straps??
@@lorenztl Well...she's a Demorrhoid. They don't know a lot of things.
That’s why you’re suffering now You better learn who to trust and who actually cares about your well being
Has anyone been manipulating the weather ,by way of cloud seeding this makes storms worse ,check it out if you’re alive !!
Take your conspiracy theories Trump thinking crazy talk to Dubai where they’re filthy rich and think they can do anything & GOD showed them they have no power against his so Dubai is under water
"Everybody is responsible for this except me."
Imagine the hysterics over automobiles and safety features.
Ol George got what was coming to him by driving that tin can faster than a horse can run.
There would be many more deaths today if safety features were never added. Cars may have been banned.
Same with mobile homes dude. There's always room for improvement... you should try it.
Its a trailer , they're made cheap and sold cheap. This isnt anything new yall
It's about there being a shelter available if/when a tornado occurs. Especially knowing that trailers are made cheap & provide no safety
Here's a tip.
Don't live in a house with wheels.
Why? As long as you know the risks and are responsible about it, you can live pretty much anywhere... wheels or no wheels. Dummies live in regular houses too ya know. It's not the structure, it's the occupant who usually causes issues.
Mobile homes have wheels? Then why don't they drive out of the tornados path?🤔
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It wouldn't cost that much to dig a hole. Maybe some other countries of the world can give us some money for it. Apparently we're always broke when it comes to the taxpayers needs.
Also, it's the same with a lot of apartments. No basement.
Digging a whole may be cheap, but permits, inspections, and insurance can be costly
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Isn’t a mobile home community able to build a shelter? No offense but this wouldn’t be too hard to build. As a community they could help one another build one. That’s a lot more constructive than looking for those to blame. Especially if you live in tornado alley
It's not their land to build on. They may own the homes, but not the property.
If one buys a "mobil" home. The owner needs to be responsible for the safety of where they decide to have it sitting.
*Mobile*.
@@j.t.cooper2963 They do have wheels on them.
@@BL-jt3qt Duh. That's what "Mobile" means.
Mobile homes do not have wheels
@@XeniasWorld Yes they do. Thats why they call them Mobile Homes. I own one so I know for a fact they do.
Safety then don't buy one!
This scenario is no longer true, Due to HUD manufacturing criteria, mobile homes are now built to same spec as stick built home. The anchoring process, if done properly is equally as stable as a home on a tradition foundation. If all mobile home parks should have to put in shelters, then every home should have to put a shelter. Media outlets tend to fixate on more dramatic images of tornado destruction, and trailer park devastation makes for better headlines.
❤❤❤❤❤❤ That's why they buy it so cheap for., You get what you pay for. They want more regulations. They will raise the prices up., That's why you gotta have good insurance.
False headline
Umm wrong a few died that lived in mobile homes....tell the truth
Tell them to stop targeting mobile home parks!😬👍
Instead of demanding better safety regulations don't live in a mobile home.
This is what happens when you choose affordability over safety.
LOL... Dudes: THEY'RE MOBILE FRICKING HOMES!
To demand better standards to survive a freaking tornado? Hilarious.
That is a joke. You live in a trailer. There is nothing safe about a trailer ,if you want something safer, rent or buy a regular home
And if you are unable to do so . . . well, that's entirely on you, isn't it?
That or in the small chance a tornado may be inbound, you just abandon it until the storm passes.
Your comment is a joke.
A tornado will take a house down
More gubment won't help.
Lol demanding that your toothpick homes need to be built better? How about common sense saying buy a more sturdy home on a foundation with a basement or shelter?
My common sense says if im worried about weather, im not buying a home without some of the above-mentioned.
It sucks, but you get what you pay for ig
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