BR in the 1980s - The Alan Harrison Collection Part 21 York Holgate Road (British Rail Trains)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- During the summer of 1986, my good friend Alan travelled around the UK, armed with a hefty VHS camera, recording the railway scene. I'm delighted to be able to bring you the results. In Part 21 of his 1986 wanderings, Alan returns to York where he sets himself up under York’s Holgate Road Bridge. From this vantage point, he has a fabulous view of the station approaches and the southern end of the freight avoiding loop. The clip starts with 45051 heading into the station with an Eastbound Trans Pennine working and an unidentified 08 shunter on Speedlink wagons. Inverness Depot’s celebrity 37025 heads light through the station before 31191 brings a collection of loaded ballast wagons off the freight loop, backed up by a guards van complete with smoking stove pipe. 47361 Wilton Endeavour heads a train of 100 ton oil tanks off the freight loop and an East Coast HST heads south. A Class 45 Peak leaves the station with a westbound Trans Pennine, running parallel with a Derby DMU (Class 108 or 114). 37153 brings more tanks off the loop, passing two 08s, one with a guard’s brake van in tow. As 47305 pulls off the loop with cement tanks, we see the first signs of a fire developing on the track, possibly caused by a faulty point motor (although a viewer has now explained to me that it's most likely been caused by the brakes from the preceding Peak hauled trans pennine service). By the time two further HSTs have headed south, the fire has spread to the creosote soaked wooden sleepers. Two track workers duly appear with a bucket of water and douse the flames. In stark contrast to today’s Health and Safety regulated environment, there’s not a high vis orange vest in sight! Nor are the trains stopped! Finally in this clip, 56017 heads a northbound MGR coal train onto the loop. I'd love to hear your thoughts about this video. Please leave comments below. Thank you.
Im Sommer 1986 reiste mein guter Freund Alan mit einer kräftigen VHS-Kamera durch Großbritannien und filmte die Eisenbahnszene. Ich freue mich, Ihnen die Ergebnisse präsentieren zu können. In Teil 21 seiner Wanderungen von 1986 kehrt Alan nach York zurück, wo er sich unter der Holgate Road Bridge in York niederlässt. Von diesem Aussichtspunkt aus hat er einen sagenhaften Blick auf die Bahnhofszufahrten und das südliche Ende der Güterausweichschleife. Der Clip beginnt damit, dass 45051 mit einem in Ostrichtung fahrenden Trans Pennine und einem nicht identifizierten 08-Rangierer auf Speedlink-Wagen in den Bahnhof fährt. Der Promi 37025 von Inverness Depot fährt mit leichtem Licht durch den Bahnhof, bevor 31191 eine Sammlung beladener Ballastwagen von der Frachtschleife bringt, unterstützt von einem Wachwagen mit rauchendem Ofenrohr. 47361 Wilton Endeavour leitet einen Zug mit 100-Tonnen-Öltanks von der Frachtschleife und ein East Coast HST fährt nach Süden. Ein Peak der Klasse 45 verlässt die Station mit einem Trans Pennine in westlicher Richtung, der parallel zu einem Derby-DMU (Klasse 108 oder 114) fährt. 37153 bringt weitere Panzer aus der Schleife und passiert zwei 08er, von denen einer einen Bremswagen einer Wache im Schlepptau hat. Als 47305 die Schleife mit Zementtanks abfährt, sehen wir die ersten Anzeichen eines sich entwickelnden Feuers auf der Strecke, möglicherweise verursacht durch einen fehlerhaften Weichenmotor (obwohl mir ein Zuschauer jetzt erklärt hat, dass es höchstwahrscheinlich durch die Bremsen von der verursacht wurde vorangehender von Peak gezogener Trans Pennine-Dienst). Als zwei weitere HSTs nach Süden gefahren sind, hat sich das Feuer auf die mit Kreosot getränkten Holzschwellen ausgebreitet. Zwei Gleisarbeiter erscheinen pflichtgemäß mit einem Eimer Wasser und löschen die Flammen. Im krassen Gegensatz zu den heutigen Gesundheits- und Sicherheitsvorschriften ist keine orangefarbene Warnweste in Sicht! Auch die Züge werden nicht angehalten! Schließlich leitet 56017 in diesem Clip einen MGR-Kohlezug in Richtung Norden auf die Schleife. Ich würde gerne deine Meinung zu diesem Video hören. Bitte hinterlassen Sie Kommentare unten. Vielen Dank.
As a child I can clearly remember waiting with my Grandma in York station for a train back to Leeds one evening. As the Peak hauled train pulled into the platform, I can clearly remember seeing an absolutely enormous shower of sparks erupting from the side of the leading bogie. This video has proved to me that it wasn't my young mind imagining it and it was indeed a regular occurrence on those locos!
Several people have now commented on this video Ricjuk suggesting that the fire would, most likely, have been caused by the preceding Peak. I can honestly say that, at the time, I never realised just how many sparks came off the Peak's brakes, but it does indeed seem to have been quite a regular occurrence, and the guys with the bucket don't seem fazed by it do they? Thank you for the great comment and really pleased that it was able to clear up those memories for you.
The afterlife is one of the most contentious issues in humanity's history however it is quite clear that this is heaven! Great work and thanks for sharing.
If this is truly the answer to life, the universe and everything Paul, then shouldn’t there be a class 42 Warship around??
Great video. These fires on that pointwork was a regular occurrence and this time was caused by the dragging brakes on the peak heading into the station.
Good point Vincenzo. I guess it’s a spectacle we don’t often get now with concrete sleepers. Thanks for the comment and I’m glad you’re enjoying the collection.
Best location in York, brilliant.
Absolutely Alan. If only we could go there for entertainment like this now eh? Really glad you're enjoying the collection.
The old cattle sidings. Spent many a happy hour there.
I didn’t realise they were old cattle sidings Andy. That explains the platform I guess! Thank you for the info and glad you’re enjoying the collection.
Thank you for the comment about the sparks from the peak. I remember seeing these when I was growing up in the Pennines area in the early to mid-eighties. I've always wondered what caused it now I know.
Such a variety back then. Thanks for posting.
You’re very welcome Robert. Glad you’re enjoying the collection.
Plenty of action in this area, Good Video
Thanks Denis. Glad you’re enjoying the collection.
Note the workmen at 12.25 putting fire out - the whole network would be closed for 4 hours these days for a situation like this.........."
It certainly would Ian. According to several people who have commented on this video, wooden sleeper fires such as this were fairly common, often caused by sparks from brake blocks! What makes me laugh is that there isn’t a high vis vest in sight, and yet trains are passing on adjacent lines. Today’s H&S officers would be having kittens if they saw this happening.
Fire as well! Great videos!
Thanks John. Glad you’re enjoying the collection.
Spent many happy hours at this very location in the mid to late 80s. At the time, you could drive through a little used carpark and park up on the old platform to watch the trains from the comfort of your car!
Now, the carpark is usually locked and the dreadful palisade fencing is everywhere, preventing access.
The 08 is on a trip working from the then rail connected Rowntree factory to Dringhouses yard - now a housing estate - just to the south of this location. So much has been lost.
Absolutely Gareth. H&S rules probably now designate this filming location as way too risky! I remember a few years ago, when I was watching trains from the platform end at Stockport, a security guard came up to me to ask what I was doing and check I wasn’t suicidal! A group of enthusiasts in a disused trackside trackside car park would require a permanent security presence to avoid countless fatalities! And as for the 08 on the chocolate express.....am I right in thinking Rowntrees closed after a takeover by Nestle? Where do they make Yorkie bars now? And can they still strictly be called Yorkie bars if they’re not made in York? And if they don’t make them any more, what do British truck drivers eat? See how out of touch you get living in Australia?
@@kartwheelkarl What was Rowntrees is still there Karl, but is now owned by Nestle and is a shadow of it's former self. Not sure where Yorkie bars are made now - possibly Poland? Shortly after the takeover, Nestle ceased using the railways and moved over to a completely truck based operation. This in turn led to the closure of Dringhouses yard, just to the south of this location.
York now originates nor receives any regular freight traffic although a fair amount still passes through every day.
@@garethjones9635 So sad that such a famous factory has been downgraded.
Another fascinating video. The DMU is unusual; it’s a 116 leading but what appears to be a 119 car trailing, although I can’t be sure because it appears to be missing windows, perhaps a modification for Departmental use. Both types were rare at York, 116 units generally found in S Wales, West Mids and Scotland, 119 units were Western Region units!
I thought that too - agree that the second car could be a 119 - possibly a route learning set?
Good spot guys. Can’t say I picked up on that one.
Brilliant video of a slice of railway history ! One comment I would make though....I have a suspicion that the HST at minute 5 is actually a "Cross Country" service rather than East Coast - there is only one First Class coach and the power cars are 253 rather than 254.
I think you're right Arthur.
No hi vis vests!
Not a hi-vis vest to be seen Anne. And yet they managed to walk out onto the line and extinguish the fire without being mown down. I don’t know how they managed it!