This is a dream come true. I have looked for 5 years and for me a single person who needs a desk and has a dog and I need a long term home.....forgive me but i am in tears right now. This would be a blessing and a perfect addition to my life. Wow!!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd im homeless now after my rent going from 1200 to 1608 in 3 years. I'm renting a room from my daughter and I'm working hard so I can get approved and my daughter wants me to keep it on her property. I watch YOU ALL the time.
This is by far my most favorite camper....EVER!!! I'd like to see "patio" doors/screens to close at night or if raining out. Also, the couch doesn't look too comfortable, but I could be wrong.
The couch is a little more of a bench with that bed design. Not a big plush sofa. But enough to give me a place to chill for a bit I suppose between stirring up some fun outside
As a 15 yr toy hauler camper, i love the flexibility and options in this design. We don't do motorcycles, but lots of bikes and surfboards and bbq equipment, etc. So this would be great. The key issues i see are - 35gal grey tank is too small. i would consider 50gal a minimum. That is always the limiting factor for dry camping anywhere where you aren't supposed to "water the bushes," especially with 4-6 people in the RV. Also, i wonder if the racks were painted to match the wall? might look less like a warehouse? And cabinet based storage is on the light side unless there is a way to use area over the table? Maybe the back space could be used a little better? Front privacy curtain for the bed area also would be nice.
You are sooo goood at what you do. I don't know how you remember all of the little, unique details. You get your audience excited through your own excitement. You keep us entertained and informed. Thank you.
I always love what Ember does. The back porch is a really nice addition. One thing I wish they could do with the couches is the flip out leg rests since they can't do theater seats. This one is a bit big for me, a single camper but still fun to see.
The bed system is awesome. I love the bunk system too. Love the outlets. An induction cooktop option would be great. I'm not sure I understand the back door and the side cargo door both being there - I think another side window would be better.
Incredible. I've been watching your videos for years now. I'll be honest. When I look at the weights and measures, I usually click off. This video kept my attention because of its uniqueness and cleverness. Ember has done their homework, and so have you. Thanks for the video, and thanks for not demonstrating how to dance around that stripper post.
The double bunk area with the cargo door is a perfect location to haul an Electra Glide or Gold Wing full dresser and the cargo door will allow for easy exit once the motorcycle is load and having them/C in that location will still allow for full access to the rest of the rigs functionality and to be able to also haul the e-bike/e-trike as well. Great job with the layout EMBER.
That's bizarre...I kinda love it. Could you use a mattress and some bolsters and/or pillows to make the etrack shelf a reasonably functional sofa? (Once the additional support is added.) I'd be interested to see a 190MSL with the bar/bed/flex thing in place of the couch. Being able to repurpose like a third of the camper (between the bunk/cargo area and the formerly-sofa space) would be really nice, I think.
*SHELF INTO SOFA?* I don't see why not! Each "plank" is rated to hold 300lbs though. So two adults on one set might be problematic. That's a use they hadn't considered nor intended so you'd want to approach it with caution *190MSL WITH BAR:* Yesssssssssssss.....
THANK YOU, JOSH!!! Finally, the 240TKR video! I LOVE this 240TKR concept unit and the new Swiss Army Knife bed configuration. I'm glad they included a secondary side door (like the MSL units) because it's a great place to load dirty dogs! In fact, I would mind them expanding that access door to be the full MSL side access flip-up door. I also really like the wire hub "post" that has all of the display panels mounted on it. I'd like to see them put a junction box on the roof above the top of interior wiring "post" so that if you wanted to add more electronic gadgets on the roof (i.e. more solar panels, internet antennas, weather station, etc), you'd have easy, secure, weatherproof access to get the wiring to the inside of the trailer! I'd like to see Ember add an ABS & anti-sway system standard for all of their Overland Series models so that you can safely tow them on the highway while using an articulating hitch! I'd also like to see Ember configure all of their Overland Series bathrooms the same way they do on their new E-Series, with a 30"x36" shower and adjacent linen cabinet. The footprint of the bathrooms in both the Overland and E-Series are basically identical in size but the 24"x40" shower enclosures in the Overland Series units are too narrow! I'm also sad/mad that they haven't yet brought the lugan-style tables to the other Overland Series units. Other minor things include being able to mount 2 spare tires (in a stacked configuration) in the spot where they have just the one spare tire…it appears that 2 tires may fit with the ramp door closed. What's with the new ceiling fans? Are the using the same standard opening if you wanted to swap them out for a more traditional ceiling fan??? I'm curious/concerned that this 240TKR will perform to a 0-100 degree standard due to the rear loading ramp door. I'm assuming the 240TKR has not actually been Truma chamber tested yet, since it's still only a working prototype. On that note, Josh, be careful about saying that "all Ember models" have been chamber tested for 0-100 degrees, because I was told by a member of their executive staff last spring that the 221MSL hadn't actually been chamber tested. I'm sure that since the construction of all the Overland Series units are the same, they would perform similarly but be sure that they have actually tested every model/floorplan before making that statement. Finally, what mfgs need to realize on these "MAX Solar" setups is having an inverter is both nice and necessary, but the more things you can do WITHOUT engaging the invertor, the better your battery usage will be. People/mfgs need to think of inverters like generators, there are times when you need them, but you should use them as little as possible. Just running your invertor (with no appliance draw) will slowly drain your battery…and inverters just being on draw more power than many small charging devices. It's also why mfgs should ALWAYS include 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs. Many high draw electronics (like laptops, CPAP machines, or any electronic that comes with an in-line "brick" on the 110v charging cord) can be changed with automobile charging cords (that plug into the "cigarette lighter" barrel-style plugs) and don't need a full 110v change via the inverter. Instead, they need between the 5-volt maximum of a USB charging plug and the full 12 volts from the "cigarette lighter" outlet. So PLEASE lobby for both 12v appliances AND 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs in new RVs!! #nerdherd
Great video as always Josh! A few things I would add to this almost perfect Ember RV. 1. For the back area, create a non see through curtain w/railing system just inside the very back that’s split in the middle. The curtain should contain the outside colors with the Ember emblems on each side of the curtain. Maybe even have a clear window stitched in with a roll up Velcro/zipper backing to open or close. 2. Install the upfront table as the other units have. Also the slide out tray! 3. On door side metal fenders, install brackets (maybe like the track system inside) to mount tables to hold a typical grill and another table for prepping. Or another design where one end of the table connects to the fender with the other end having legs making a picnic table! 4. Install a privacy curtain system separating the front bedroom from the back. Maybe even have one in front of the bunk beads as well. 5. Install a hook or cabling system for pets. 6. Mount a box by the sewer connections to place gloves, adapters, water hoses etc in. Great job Ember!!👏🏼
Not a fan of the Lippert frames but this rig is expensive enough as it is so they have to cut somewhere. Interesting thing is I suspect that the Curt suspension may not offer all the bells and whistles its supposed to since this standard Limpert frame would likely cave to any demands that exceed standard suspension. So basically I think this is not really an overlander and a bit of a waste since trying to do any overlanding with a Lippert frame would likely kill it, yeah they neutered this from the get go as the frame is the RVs weakest link where it should be the strongest
Love these convertible models, If you have toys to haul or not, that back patio is awesome. This one is thinking out side the box and lets you configure it as you need to and gives you lots of options.
Ember is doing a great job innovating in the RV space. I love the versatility of this model. Kitchen is not on the camp side, so you can indeed use a 'bunk' as a table with good view of the campsite. Would be great for bikes, pets, etc. Wouldn't take it on a true off road trail but would certainly enjoy taking this through rough roads/BLM type campsites. Enjoying the views from the patio. Would be interested in seeing the concept in a 140TKR as well. Good tow package midsize/half-ton towable, would be nice.
I really wanna know who takes a 7-10000lb trailer that’s 10.5’ tall 8.5’ wide with about a 900lb hitch weight off road. Because when you tell me off-road, I think Jeep trails and such. Off-road here must mean maintained dirt roads with all the branches trimmed to fit this behemoth.
Lol....have hammocks options to replace the bunks. They make good storage area for duffle bags. So a hammock on top, with a bunk below. Or 2 hammocks. How about an outside tool rack for your shovel, ax, ramps, etc. And yes, my inside gun safe too. Deputy Doug
Love the floor plan and hopefully others will start using removable post and copy the floor plan to create more competition. I’m sure many of us like this concept but have no need for a overlander.
Really like the set up with this. A thought, your camping with another family who has their camper. You could set this up as the kids RV and adult in the other RV. I like big TVs, but I'd figure away to make one work. This is a cool layout and great thinking.
Good job with this review. I'm not a fan of most travel trailer &/or toy hauler setups. I spent quite a bit of time checking out every square inch of this build at the '23 Overland Expo East (with my son jumping/swinging/climbing throughout) and was blown away by the versatile design. I would jump on this in a heartbeat if the quality of interior materials were a bit better...even so, I am considering getting one. I'm new to this type of market though, so maybe I just need to get used to cheap internals unless I want a super heavy and expensive trailer.
@@michaelferrin2688 With the modularity, parts and extensions can be purchased to expand in so many different ways. I think that's one of the coolest features of this system.
Here is some feedback for another version: Why not seal the whole back with a door and still have the patio that folds down. It is much nicer going from door to patio then giant mosquito screen to patio. This will maintain the indoor temperature.
Love it! Anything that can be adapted to suit the needs of the moment gets two thumbs up from me! It's too much for my truck (and my budget), but if I comfortably had the means, I would upgrade my truck and jump on this in a heartbeat. LOL! I agree that battery disconnect should be moved up (or at least put a protective cage around it), and I'd prefer to not be sleeping on top of batteries, but that's about it for "things I'd change."
Yes! Great cargo, good tanks, I can pull this. Bottom up door shade. Woot. Love the "Euro" windows. Wish everyone would move to that. Would like to see a shub in the bathroom. Put doors or netting on the rear shelves.. Lacking cargo (never heard that one before.) 🤪 I really like this. Except for the bed. I could be convinced. Murphy beds......... NOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo
Hey Josh, great walkthrough as always. This looks like an almost perfect choice for me. Has Ember solved whatever was leading to the quality issues some have mentioned the last couple of years? Also, are the materials and construction technology used better enough to justify the higher price in your opinion?
They had a rocky 2022 launch. No Question. Since they seem to have dialed things in. Over the past year (meaning '23 and '24 models) our warranty stats on embers have been actually quite good I don't have data yet on E-Series. I expect it'll have some initial hiccups that also iron out
@JoshtheRVNerd I can just see a load of bugs getting in if you were to just need to run in for a second🤣 Otherwise you would have to walk around to the side door and who wants to do that 😏
is it me or are those wheels not centered in the wheel wells? lol if this was around 2 years ago it would definitely have been in the running for 30ft no slide toy hauler.
Great trailer BUT it's probably $60-70k withOUT max solar....NOT AFFORDABLE. Where is everything stored when I cargo mode? Don't see where you put beds, posts.
Great video Josh. This is just what we have been waiting for! Will my 2020 F150 crew cab 4 x 4 with ecoboost max tow package tow this unit? My cargo carry capacity on the truck is 1853 lbs. Thank you for the awesome video.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you for the reply Josh. We won't be loading the unit with anything heavy. We are wanting the space for our 5 dogs that will be traveling with us. I was really only concerned with the truck's performance when we head out West. Appreciate your help Sir.
I'm a bit concerned about my health and well-being.....because HOLE-LEE-CRAP....Am I seeing this????? This trailer is bonkers. We're looking for something with a proper bedroom, but wow, is this cool
For $69,000, this is the first Ember floorplan that has totally jumped the shark😪It has a couple of tiny thin bunk bed mattresses, a tiny kitchen, a discombobulated front murphy bed area, and windows that when you close them allows hundreds of insects to invade the RV😳
Holy $h!t Matilda, this one is 97.5% perfect! The only thing we would ask for now is a three-season rear door to the deck, which might not even be possible. Being able to leave the deck out and lock a door behind us when we go in to sleep would be wonderful. I think the most impressive feature is the twin-to-king-vertible bed with sliding closet. You could take this trailer out every day of the week and have it configured differently each time! I have to admit it, Uncle Josh, you and Ember delivered so now the only thing left to do is figure out how to pay for this. We're sold!
hahahahahaaha *This video has had two reactions..* 1.) "Neat, but no thanks" 2.) "Holy $h!t Matilda, this one is 97.5% perfect!" It's clear to which category you belong :)
The sheer versatility of that layout is *amazing* There's a lot of stuff in there that would be great for tiny apartments, tiny homes, or temporary housing after a disaster. EDIT: I might would redo the screen to not obscure the outdoor tv and block access to those shelves, but not sure how feasible that would be
Just a note to say your added time and effort is appreciated! 7:45 - 9:30 is just pure gold - especially some of the surprises and static poses! Always top notch entertainment!
I said it during the premier video of the new Embers you did, Ember is challenging the rest of the RV industry. I'm so glad they stayed away from that all too tired "plaid" some are still using on the inside. LoL This is definitely one that will challenge others to step up their game in the industry - 'cause Ember is doing it right time after time.
Really thinking outside the box. I can see this one as a great choice for the individual or couple who likes to travel to motorcycle rallies. Can’t wait to see what they come up with next.
I would like to see three season patio doors. I think more toyhaulers need three season patio doors to make the patio useful. It can be a PITA closing that deck/ramp all the time.
Ember does it again! The versatility of this one is incredible, and that murphy set up is amazing! I hope others copy that. Best convertable bed ever. The did the 2 burner stove, placed it in the best way to maximize counter space. The canopy over that back porch is wonderful, and looks like it would work better than a traditional awning. The bunk system is (I'm running out of superlatives) amazing too. I wish the storage space were a little wider, but then I don't have the big toys, this works for me. The side cargo door is a great way to load without opening the rear . It's really cute too, a mini camper door, complete with a screen door. I would really like to see what Ember can do with a van. I'm more interested in getting from point A to point B, I think a van will better suit my needs.
TV's should be optional. One level Counter top in kitchen. Dining table in 2 peices. That way the option of shorter desk, eating for one, easy to carry and store. Rack for that table in storage area. Doors on cabinet over spare tire, if no TV more cabinet. Edge on shelf above the dining desk to prevent things from falling if used in transit or cat walking on it. Removable or folding, shelf in storage box at hitch. Animal lovers would love that little door in bunk area. Love the versatile bed arrangement. Can one bed be down and the couch option still used? As a single person that would be my plan. Love Amber's quality. I love the 2 burner stove and sink. Just need more counter for all my junk. 😂
Like your feedback. And the more they'd make this a true all season that suspension, etc. that will hold up on tougher off roads along w compost toilet, small oven and enough/more solar and water packages as standard the better. And like the option someone else added about making the table across from kitchen into two pieces instead of one long one for more versatility. Would also like to see this just in a little shorter length too and animal/dog proof it at much as possible with crate tie down options too lol.
@@JoshtheRVNerd the price on your site is $69k. That's VERY pricey for a unit this size. I've seen a lot of complaints in the comments on fit and finish of Ember products. They're still a new company, hopefully that will increase in time.
@@rvail136 while this certainly won't be a budget model I do think that's 100% MSRP and not our discounted pricing I'm not even sure these have started shipping out yet but our team can get sale figures for folks who are interested
Ima Travel RN 《GeoPro20FBS》_ Divorced Dad and my girls visit me at work locations AND i just said THIS "TurDuckeN" to my Travel Buddy who also has an RV. The RV market needs to make a Rear Lpad Trailer where i can take OUT the Bunks AND the Front needs to a Murphy Bed . I NEVER even thought of a Twin/Queen/King/Sofa BED !! ❤❤❤ Thank You Josh . Thank You Ember . Ima Buying one of these.
Wow I mentioned a while back that I wanted a twin murphy bed and you stated you were going to look at a prototype. I'm guessing this was it and I love it. Thanks for another great review. 👍
i'm probably in the minority of those who don't want a tv when i'm camping, but that little nook where the tv is looks like a perfect place to put one of those flattop griddles and a small cabinet that could either store the spare or a minifridge so you have something to drink while changing the tire ;)
This is amazing! Love the twin beds, all the flexible storage space, and of course, the party deck! It might be a bit too long for me, but is very tempting for a solo full-timer. While I absolutely love the twin beds, it looks like they might be a bit too high to sit comfortably on? One of the things I love about twin beds is that they can double as comfy couches, but not sure how well that would work for these. I appreciate that Ember is trying new things with layouts - so refreshing!
With all these "patio" setups...please give us an option for some kind of patio door. Maybe I'm camping in the fall or spring and I don't want a screen letting in the cold air to the camper, but still want to enjoy a patio... sliding or other kind of "glass" door would be nice.
Wow 🤯🤯🤯🤯. The only thing that I see that doesn't make this the perfect camper is no privacy curtain on the back door. I love the screen door on the back. I love everything about this and my husband said it's fine Hun we can just make a curtain. But I am thinking for the price point I shouldn't have to make a curtain. Make a privacy curtain to this would be perfect.
Does it sing and dance, too? Holy cow. What doesn't this thing do? I wouldn’t need crazy off-road capabilities so a more highway focused design would really interest me. Wonder if that will be an option in the future. 🤔
This is ALMOST the perfect camper for couples. I do like the bed and the skylight. But Ember needs to make changes to appeal to the growing market of older adults - 11,000+ Boomers turn 65 EVERY DAY between 2024-2027 - by making these changes: * add dinette or small table & chairs instead of the bar with stools (we are the generation that still actually likes to look at each other to share a meal or play a game) * we are not interested in buying a 3/4 ton truck that we will use for nothing else, so adjust the hitch weight - we won’t be loading a 4-wheeler! * we need room for e-bikes/trikes and paddleboards, not dirt bikes & 4-wheelers This trailer is trying to be too many things for too many people, and as a result, it isn’t fitting the needs of any group. Do better Ember!
Don't mind the twin beds but not liking the bendy bed. Make it 2 ft or so longer and have a regular queen walk around. Would like to see the 3 season patio doors. We have them on our ORV 24TRX and can't see camping around bugs with out the 3 seasons patio doors. i know the height is not there on this bad boy. nice video. Nice video/rig.
In the bunk area, I’d like to see some USB outlets and the continuation of the e-track system in the horizontal manner, in addition to the vertical runs. This would allow you to use the vertical portion to adjust the bunk height but then also allow you to use the horizontal runs to store bins and storage items. I could see storing kids clothes or small toys in those bins.
Yes a 190 or 191msl - shower room all the way back as a back wall and 40% ramp aft door. Basically a smaller more compact single axle version "Transformer"! For the half ton and SUV owners.
The ramp/patio stairs should be moved to the left so that they do not have to be removed to load a Harley or whatever toys that the rig will be carrying - in the current position the stairs would be in the way of toy loading
This is the mullet of the RV world. Business up front and party in the back.
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Can it be towed by a Z28?
This is a dream come true. I have looked for 5 years and for me a single person who needs a desk and has a dog and I need a long term home.....forgive me but i am in tears right now. This would be a blessing and a perfect addition to my life. Wow!!!
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@@JoshtheRVNerd im homeless now after my rent going from 1200 to 1608 in 3 years. I'm renting a room from my daughter and I'm working hard so I can get approved and my daughter wants me to keep it on her property. I watch YOU ALL the time.
This is by far my most favorite camper....EVER!!! I'd like to see "patio" doors/screens to close at night or if raining out. Also, the couch doesn't look too comfortable, but I could be wrong.
The couch is a little more of a bench with that bed design. Not a big plush sofa. But enough to give me a place to chill for a bit I suppose between stirring up some fun outside
As a 15 yr toy hauler camper, i love the flexibility and options in this design. We don't do motorcycles, but lots of bikes and surfboards and bbq equipment, etc. So this would be great. The key issues i see are - 35gal grey tank is too small. i would consider 50gal a minimum. That is always the limiting factor for dry camping anywhere where you aren't supposed to "water the bushes," especially with 4-6 people in the RV. Also, i wonder if the racks were painted to match the wall? might look less like a warehouse? And cabinet based storage is on the light side unless there is a way to use area over the table? Maybe the back space could be used a little better? Front privacy curtain for the bed area also would be nice.
Bigger Grey is fair. Ty
You are sooo goood at what you do. I don't know how you remember all of the little, unique details. You get your audience excited through your own excitement. You keep us entertained and informed. Thank you.
Ty 😊
agree
have always loved the missiles with the 'versa-bunk' and the 'ember-track' this just takes it all to the next level.
It really does
@@JoshtheRVNerd if only it made sense to pull with my expedition
Been into RV looking for about 7 months. This hands down has to be one of the best I have ever seen. Touche.
Nice!
Congratulations to the Ember company the twin beds is long time coming. Looks like a very versatile RV. Thanks Josh for bringing this to us.
Our pleasure!
I'm a single camper but would love this for when I go visit my kids and could get them to camp with me in this!
Love it! The fact it has no bump outs that can leak! Awesome!!!
I always love what Ember does. The back porch is a really nice addition. One thing I wish they could do with the couches is the flip out leg rests since they can't do theater seats. This one is a bit big for me, a single camper but still fun to see.
The bed system is awesome. I love the bunk system too. Love the outlets. An induction cooktop option would be great. I'm not sure I understand the back door and the side cargo door both being there - I think another side window would be better.
Thanks for the tips!
I love the small side door. Makes it much easier to load stuff and not giving to open the ramp door. Great addition Ember!
Incredible. I've been watching your videos for years now. I'll be honest. When I look at the weights and measures, I usually click off. This video kept my attention because of its uniqueness and cleverness. Ember has done their homework, and so have you. Thanks for the video, and thanks for not demonstrating how to dance around that stripper post.
All I saw was “demo that pole” got it 👍🏻
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Ty buddy
The convertible bed is genius!
It was super fun to go thru
The double bunk area with the cargo door is a perfect location to haul an Electra Glide or Gold Wing full dresser and the cargo door will allow for easy exit once the motorcycle is load and having them/C in that location will still allow for full access to the rest of the rigs functionality and to be able to also haul the e-bike/e-trike as well. Great job with the layout EMBER.
Agreed! Thank you for watching!
That's bizarre...I kinda love it. Could you use a mattress and some bolsters and/or pillows to make the etrack shelf a reasonably functional sofa? (Once the additional support is added.)
I'd be interested to see a 190MSL with the bar/bed/flex thing in place of the couch. Being able to repurpose like a third of the camper (between the bunk/cargo area and the formerly-sofa space) would be really nice, I think.
*SHELF INTO SOFA?* I don't see why not! Each "plank" is rated to hold 300lbs though. So two adults on one set might be problematic. That's a use they hadn't considered nor intended so you'd want to approach it with caution
*190MSL WITH BAR:* Yesssssssssssss.....
THANK YOU, JOSH!!! Finally, the 240TKR video! I LOVE this 240TKR concept unit and the new Swiss Army Knife bed configuration. I'm glad they included a secondary side door (like the MSL units) because it's a great place to load dirty dogs! In fact, I would mind them expanding that access door to be the full MSL side access flip-up door. I also really like the wire hub "post" that has all of the display panels mounted on it. I'd like to see them put a junction box on the roof above the top of interior wiring "post" so that if you wanted to add more electronic gadgets on the roof (i.e. more solar panels, internet antennas, weather station, etc), you'd have easy, secure, weatherproof access to get the wiring to the inside of the trailer!
I'd like to see Ember add an ABS & anti-sway system standard for all of their Overland Series models so that you can safely tow them on the highway while using an articulating hitch! I'd also like to see Ember configure all of their Overland Series bathrooms the same way they do on their new E-Series, with a 30"x36" shower and adjacent linen cabinet. The footprint of the bathrooms in both the Overland and E-Series are basically identical in size but the 24"x40" shower enclosures in the Overland Series units are too narrow! I'm also sad/mad that they haven't yet brought the lugan-style tables to the other Overland Series units.
Other minor things include being able to mount 2 spare tires (in a stacked configuration) in the spot where they have just the one spare tire…it appears that 2 tires may fit with the ramp door closed. What's with the new ceiling fans? Are the using the same standard opening if you wanted to swap them out for a more traditional ceiling fan???
I'm curious/concerned that this 240TKR will perform to a 0-100 degree standard due to the rear loading ramp door. I'm assuming the 240TKR has not actually been Truma chamber tested yet, since it's still only a working prototype. On that note, Josh, be careful about saying that "all Ember models" have been chamber tested for 0-100 degrees, because I was told by a member of their executive staff last spring that the 221MSL hadn't actually been chamber tested. I'm sure that since the construction of all the Overland Series units are the same, they would perform similarly but be sure that they have actually tested every model/floorplan before making that statement.
Finally, what mfgs need to realize on these "MAX Solar" setups is having an inverter is both nice and necessary, but the more things you can do WITHOUT engaging the invertor, the better your battery usage will be. People/mfgs need to think of inverters like generators, there are times when you need them, but you should use them as little as possible. Just running your invertor (with no appliance draw) will slowly drain your battery…and inverters just being on draw more power than many small charging devices.
It's also why mfgs should ALWAYS include 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs. Many high draw electronics (like laptops, CPAP machines, or any electronic that comes with an in-line "brick" on the 110v charging cord) can be changed with automobile charging cords (that plug into the "cigarette lighter" barrel-style plugs) and don't need a full 110v change via the inverter. Instead, they need between the 5-volt maximum of a USB charging plug and the full 12 volts from the "cigarette lighter" outlet. So PLEASE lobby for both 12v appliances AND 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs in new RVs!!
#nerdherd
I hope it was worth the wait!
Great video as always Josh! A few things I would add to this almost perfect Ember RV.
1. For the back area, create a non see through curtain w/railing system just inside the very back that’s split in the middle. The curtain should contain the outside colors with the Ember emblems on each side of the curtain. Maybe even have a clear window stitched in with a roll up Velcro/zipper backing to open or close.
2. Install the upfront table as the other units have. Also the slide out tray!
3. On door side metal fenders, install brackets (maybe like the track system inside) to mount tables to hold a typical grill and another table for prepping. Or another design where one end of the table connects to the fender with the other end having legs making a picnic table!
4. Install a privacy curtain system separating the front bedroom from the back. Maybe even have one in front of the bunk beads as well.
5. Install a hook or cabling system for pets.
6. Mount a box by the sewer connections to place gloves, adapters, water hoses etc in.
Great job Ember!!👏🏼
Some solid points and ideas here. TY so much for taking the time to watch and share these
Not a fan of the Lippert frames but this rig is expensive enough as it is so they have to cut somewhere.
Interesting thing is I suspect that the Curt suspension may not offer all the bells and whistles its supposed to since this standard Limpert frame would likely cave to any demands that exceed standard suspension.
So basically I think this is not really an overlander and a bit of a waste since trying to do any overlanding with a Lippert frame would likely kill it, yeah they neutered this from the get go as the frame is the RVs weakest link where it should be the strongest
I think leave the wheel well as is. Make a good footrest at the table.
TY
Love these convertible models, If you have toys to haul or not, that back patio is awesome. This one is thinking out side the box and lets you configure it as you need to and gives you lots of options.
The only thing I’d want to add to this is drop screens for the back porch so we can use that space even when it’s raining and to keep bugs out.
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Ember is doing a great job innovating in the RV space. I love the versatility of this model. Kitchen is not on the camp side, so you can indeed use a 'bunk' as a table with good view of the campsite. Would be great for bikes, pets, etc. Wouldn't take it on a true off road trail but would certainly enjoy taking this through rough roads/BLM type campsites. Enjoying the views from the patio. Would be interested in seeing the concept in a 140TKR as well. Good tow package midsize/half-ton towable, would be nice.
Yeah I don't consider it a "rock crawler" by any means. "Off-Road" means different things to different people
Now this is a hunting buddies rig!!!
I had a similar thought
The curbside half door is a serviceable second exit. Always a good thing!
Fair!
Don't have the money for it but that is really cool. I have a remote job and I can see getting something like that in a few years.
I really wanna know who takes a 7-10000lb trailer that’s 10.5’ tall 8.5’ wide with about a 900lb hitch weight off road. Because when you tell me off-road, I think Jeep trails and such. Off-road here must mean maintained dirt roads with all the branches trimmed to fit this behemoth.
Exactly
That is way too cool! I wish somebody would offer an awning system to add to any current toy hauler with a patio.
It needs 3 SEASON DOORS INTHE BACK!!
Lol....have hammocks options to replace the bunks. They make good storage area for duffle bags. So a hammock on top, with a bunk below. Or 2 hammocks. How about an outside tool rack for your shovel, ax, ramps, etc. And yes, my inside gun safe
too.
Deputy Doug
That's a cool thing with their e-track system -- you can 100% hook hammocks to it
Love the floor plan and hopefully others will start using removable post and copy the floor plan to create more competition. I’m sure many of us like this concept but have no need for a overlander.
I’m shocked nobody has tried to knock off their bunk system yet
It would be nice if there was some etrack/tiedown points in the pass thru storage area to be able to secure the cargo in there.
Interesting idea
Really like the set up with this. A thought, your camping with another family who has their camper. You could set this up as the kids RV and adult in the other RV. I like big TVs, but I'd figure away to make one work. This is a cool layout and great thinking.
This looks like it could be fun for a lot of different adult activities lol XD
Why am I getting such major deja-vu?
Good job with this review. I'm not a fan of most travel trailer &/or toy hauler setups. I spent quite a bit of time checking out every square inch of this build at the '23 Overland Expo East (with my son jumping/swinging/climbing throughout) and was blown away by the versatile design. I would jump on this in a heartbeat if the quality of interior materials were a bit better...even so, I am considering getting one. I'm new to this type of market though, so maybe I just need to get used to cheap internals unless I want a super heavy and expensive trailer.
Ty for watching. It can be daunting sorting it all out
Thanks brother.....your off the hook now until I come and visit you to buy one.... :)
Thx for the patience
I love this one. My wife hates it. My seven year old is having trouble imagining what modular means for her space in it.
So you like it
Wife doesn't
Sounds like the time I wanted a dog and my wife wanted a cat
So we compromised
And we got a cat. 😆
So will it come with all the hardware to do the double over double and the single over single bunk situation?
Sure does!
@@davidblea i've got a family of 6, so the idea that i'd be able to basically have 6 separate beds is amazing.
@@michaelferrin2688 With the modularity, parts and extensions can be purchased to expand in so many different ways. I think that's one of the coolest features of this system.
Wow! This appears to be the complete package
The only thing it does
Is every thing
Thanks!
Too kind. Ty Bill
Here is some feedback for another version: Why not seal the whole back with a door and still have the patio that folds down. It is much nicer going from door to patio then giant mosquito screen to patio. This will maintain the indoor temperature.
Love it! Anything that can be adapted to suit the needs of the moment gets two thumbs up from me! It's too much for my truck (and my budget), but if I comfortably had the means, I would upgrade my truck and jump on this in a heartbeat. LOL! I agree that battery disconnect should be moved up (or at least put a protective cage around it), and I'd prefer to not be sleeping on top of batteries, but that's about it for "things I'd change."
Thanks! 👍
At 00:25 That width has got to be wrong .
Sigh.. thought I fixed that
Can you do another market update please
Just finished this months
I roll them out the 1st of every month
Yes! Great cargo, good tanks, I can pull this.
Bottom up door shade. Woot.
Love the "Euro" windows. Wish everyone would move to that.
Would like to see a shub in the bathroom.
Put doors or netting on the rear shelves..
Lacking cargo (never heard that one before.) 🤪
I really like this. Except for the bed. I could be convinced.
Murphy beds......... NOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo
Could basically ignore the Murphy function on this as desired
But I get it. It’s not the same
I love it. Any idea when the final version will hit the dealers?
I think Q1 of 2024
Hey Josh, great walkthrough as always. This looks like an almost perfect choice for me. Has Ember solved whatever was leading to the quality issues some have mentioned the last couple of years? Also, are the materials and construction technology used better enough to justify the higher price in your opinion?
They had a rocky 2022 launch. No Question. Since they seem to have dialed things in. Over the past year (meaning '23 and '24 models) our warranty stats on embers have been actually quite good
I don't have data yet on E-Series. I expect it'll have some initial hiccups that also iron out
If the rear screen could open side to side not down to up would probably be more preferable
That’s interesting.. no one has ever mentioned that before but I do like the idea..
@JoshtheRVNerd I can just see a load of bugs getting in if you were to just need to run in for a second🤣
Otherwise you would have to walk around to the side door and who wants to do that 😏
The intro and the website says 10’9” wide… that doesn’t seem right. 8’6” is usually max
I flipped the width and height
Would love to see a 7'6" version single axle.
is it me or are those wheels not centered in the wheel wells? lol if this was around 2 years ago it would definitely have been in the running for 30ft no slide toy hauler.
They aren’t and can’t be since it’s a trailing arm suspension
I’m thinking you’ve got your height and width mixed up. I don’t know if I wanna get an over size permit to move a 10’ 9” wide camper.
I 100% do
does ember make a fifth wheel model using same concept
They haven’t made any fifth wheels yet
Great trailer BUT it's probably $60-70k withOUT max solar....NOT AFFORDABLE. Where is everything stored when I cargo mode? Don't see where you put beds, posts.
It would need to be tied down somewhere for sure
neat. Now do it without murphy beds.
You could always just plop down a queen and call it good btw
Great video Josh. This is just what we have been waiting for! Will my 2020 F150 crew cab 4 x 4 with ecoboost max tow package tow this unit? My cargo carry capacity on the truck is 1853 lbs. Thank you for the awesome video.
Glancing at quick figures I think it's very possible but you'll always want to be conscious of what you're loading and where its weight is distributed
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you for the reply Josh. We won't be loading the unit with anything heavy. We are wanting the space for our 5 dogs that will be traveling with us. I was really only concerned with the truck's performance when we head out West. Appreciate your help Sir.
Very innovative but, all those mattresses don’t look much different than a backpack air mattress. Probably has a $50-60k price range.
🎉#NerdHerd....
It needs nightstands
Price?
Pricing at www.bishs.com/rv-search?brand=Overland+Series&stocknumber=240TKR
Thank you really wish I could afford it
Ember always takes the cool factor. But they’re quality continuously disappoints 😢
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Rurt reynolds. Lol
lol :)
I'm a bit concerned about my health and well-being.....because HOLE-LEE-CRAP....Am I seeing this?????
This trailer is bonkers.
We're looking for something with a proper bedroom, but wow, is this cool
hahahaha i know, right?
For $69,000, this is the first Ember floorplan that has totally jumped the shark😪It has a couple of tiny thin bunk bed mattresses, a tiny kitchen, a discombobulated front murphy bed area, and windows that when you close them allows hundreds of insects to invade the RV😳
Holy $h!t Matilda, this one is 97.5% perfect! The only thing we would ask for now is a three-season rear door to the deck, which might not even be possible. Being able to leave the deck out and lock a door behind us when we go in to sleep would be wonderful. I think the most impressive feature is the twin-to-king-vertible bed with sliding closet. You could take this trailer out every day of the week and have it configured differently each time! I have to admit it, Uncle Josh, you and Ember delivered so now the only thing left to do is figure out how to pay for this. We're sold!
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*This video has had two reactions..*
1.) "Neat, but no thanks"
2.) "Holy $h!t Matilda, this one is 97.5% perfect!"
It's clear to which category you belong :)
The sheer versatility of that layout is *amazing*
There's a lot of stuff in there that would be great for tiny apartments, tiny homes, or temporary housing after a disaster.
EDIT: I might would redo the screen to not obscure the outdoor tv and block access to those shelves, but not sure how feasible that would be
Man.. it really would
Just a note to say your added time and effort is appreciated! 7:45 - 9:30 is just pure gold - especially some of the surprises and static poses! Always top notch entertainment!
Those bed poses are my favorite parts of his videos, too. So hilarious! 😀
Ty for saying this. That quick minute of footage takes like 10+ minutes to capture and more to edit
@@JoshtheRVNerd oh I can imagine! It is so helpful and funny at the same time
I said it during the premier video of the new Embers you did, Ember is challenging the rest of the RV industry. I'm so glad they stayed away from that all too tired "plaid" some are still using on the inside. LoL This is definitely one that will challenge others to step up their game in the industry - 'cause Ember is doing it right time after time.
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The only thing that I'd like to see added is stabilizer legs added to the rear door for patio use like some of the nicer 5th wheel toy haulers have.
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Really thinking outside the box. I can see this one as a great choice for the individual or couple who likes to travel to motorcycle rallies.
Can’t wait to see what they come up with next.
Me too!
I would like to see three season patio doors. I think more toyhaulers need three season patio doors to make the patio useful. It can be a PITA closing that deck/ramp all the time.
Totally fair. TY
Wow, that’s versatile. I really like it. I agree, it needs an oven.
Ember does it again!
The versatility of this one is incredible, and that murphy set up is amazing! I hope others copy that. Best convertable bed ever.
The did the 2 burner stove, placed it in the best way to maximize counter space.
The canopy over that back porch is wonderful, and looks like it would work better than a traditional awning. The bunk system is (I'm running out of superlatives) amazing too.
I wish the storage space were a little wider, but then I don't have the big toys, this works for me.
The side cargo door is a great way to load without opening the rear . It's really cute too, a mini camper door, complete with a screen door.
I would really like to see what Ember can do with a van. I'm more interested in getting from point A to point B, I think a van will better suit my needs.
#embervan!
TV's should be optional. One level Counter top in kitchen. Dining table in 2 peices. That way the option of shorter desk, eating for one, easy to carry and store. Rack for that table in storage area. Doors on cabinet over spare tire, if no TV more cabinet. Edge on shelf above the dining desk to prevent things from falling if used in transit or cat walking on it. Removable or folding, shelf in storage box at hitch.
Animal lovers would love that little door in bunk area. Love the versatile bed arrangement. Can one bed be down and the couch option still used?
As a single person that would be my plan. Love Amber's quality. I love the 2 burner stove and sink. Just need more counter for all my junk. 😂
Like your feedback. And the more they'd make this a true all season that suspension, etc. that will hold up on tougher off roads along w compost toilet, small oven and enough/more solar and water packages as standard the better. And like the option someone else added about making the table across from kitchen into two pieces instead of one long one for more versatility. Would also like to see this just in a little shorter length too and animal/dog proof it at much as possible with crate tie down options too lol.
This is the 1st ember I'd buy, even though I dislike Murphy beds almost as I hate theater seats. Hope it doesn't come with a premium pricetag.
Pretty sure it won’t be the budget beater of their lineup
@@JoshtheRVNerd the price on your site is $69k. That's VERY pricey for a unit this size. I've seen a lot of complaints in the comments on fit and finish of Ember products. They're still a new company, hopefully that will increase in time.
@@rvail136 while this certainly won't be a budget model I do think that's 100% MSRP and not our discounted pricing
I'm not even sure these have started shipping out yet but our team can get sale figures for folks who are interested
Ima Travel RN 《GeoPro20FBS》_ Divorced Dad and my girls visit me at work locations AND i just said THIS "TurDuckeN" to my Travel Buddy who also has an RV. The RV market needs to make a Rear Lpad Trailer where i can take OUT the Bunks AND the Front needs to a Murphy Bed . I NEVER even thought of a Twin/Queen/King/Sofa BED !! ❤❤❤ Thank You Josh . Thank You Ember . Ima Buying one of these.
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Wow I mentioned a while back that I wanted a twin murphy bed and you stated you were going to look at a prototype. I'm guessing this was it and I love it. Thanks for another great review. 👍
I keep saying - they're listening!
But they can get 100 ideas in a day and it takes time to really do one of them well
i'm probably in the minority of those who don't want a tv when i'm camping, but that little nook where the tv is looks like a perfect place to put one of those flattop griddles and a small cabinet that could either store the spare or a minifridge so you have something to drink while changing the tire ;)
Pretty nice on rainy days, when you don't feel like reading.
Good call. It fascinates me how their commercials for politicians differ too. @@Erin-Thor
This is amazing! Love the twin beds, all the flexible storage space, and of course, the party deck! It might be a bit too long for me, but is very tempting for a solo full-timer. While I absolutely love the twin beds, it looks like they might be a bit too high to sit comfortably on? One of the things I love about twin beds is that they can double as comfy couches, but not sure how well that would work for these. I appreciate that Ember is trying new things with layouts - so refreshing!
The bench and beds do sit a bit high but it’s a square peg for a round hole that fits as well as possible
Love it! It had most of what I am looking for in a toy hauler trailer. Unfortunately, it will too heavy for my half-ton pick up.
With all these "patio" setups...please give us an option for some kind of patio door. Maybe I'm camping in the fall or spring and I don't want a screen letting in the cold air to the camper, but still want to enjoy a patio... sliding or other kind of "glass" door would be nice.
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I think alot more people carry bikes and boards over dirtbikes and side by sides. This is the better option for sure.
Awesome Ty
Duuuuuuude! Absofreakmazing!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
lol I love this
Perfect for a traveling band. Lots of room for sound equipment, built-in stage and lots of bunks.
That's.. actually not a bad thought
Wow 🤯🤯🤯🤯. The only thing that I see that doesn't make this the perfect camper is no privacy curtain on the back door. I love the screen door on the back. I love everything about this and my husband said it's fine Hun we can just make a curtain. But I am thinking for the price point I shouldn't have to make a curtain. Make a privacy curtain to this would be perfect.
Totally fair! TY
Does it sing and dance, too? Holy cow. What doesn't this thing do? I wouldn’t need crazy off-road capabilities so a more highway focused design would really interest me. Wonder if that will be an option in the future. 🤔
Possibly depending on how successful this is
I like options
Pretty cool! Now they just need to make it longer with a private bedroom haha..
I really like the canopy over the patio.
That patio looks like it'd take a few mins to setup but would be SO nice once you're done
This is ALMOST the perfect camper for couples.
I do like the bed and the skylight.
But Ember needs to make changes to appeal to the growing market of older adults - 11,000+ Boomers turn 65 EVERY DAY between 2024-2027 - by making these changes:
* add dinette or small table & chairs instead of the bar with stools (we are the generation that still actually likes to look at each other to share a meal or play a game)
* we are not interested in buying a 3/4 ton truck that we will use for nothing else, so adjust the hitch weight - we won’t be loading a 4-wheeler!
* we need room for e-bikes/trikes and paddleboards, not dirt bikes & 4-wheelers
This trailer is trying to be too many things for too many people, and as a result, it isn’t fitting the needs of any group.
Do better Ember!
The innovation is to be applauded 👏 👏 not perfect pretty small cooktop wish there was an oven, and I hope there is a screen for the deck door
Hi Josh. Awesome video as always. Where does all the bunk and table stuff go in transit?
If not mounted in place then it’ll need strapped down
HOME RUN!
Hats off to the Ember team for being so responsive to customer feedback.
Don't mind the twin beds but not liking the bendy bed. Make it 2 ft or so longer and have a regular queen walk around. Would like to see the 3 season patio doors. We have them on our ORV 24TRX and can't see camping around bugs with out the 3 seasons patio doors. i know the height is not there on this bad boy. nice video. Nice video/rig.
The beds are 80” long so wouldn’t even need to extend it
In the bunk area, I’d like to see some USB outlets and the continuation of the e-track system in the horizontal manner, in addition to the vertical runs. This would allow you to use the vertical portion to adjust the bunk height but then also allow you to use the horizontal runs to store bins and storage items. I could see storing kids clothes or small toys in those bins.
Love it. Love the convertibility of everything. If I was to buy one I’d need it to haul a sxs. Haulin my dirt bike and atvs would be perfect.
Would love to see this in the 190 msl!
Which part?
Yes a 190 or 191msl - shower room all the way back as a back wall and 40% ramp aft door. Basically a smaller more compact single axle version "Transformer"! For the half ton and SUV owners.
I was so thrilled with this trailer I actually gave it an award - best new RV of Open House. I love this thing.
Thank you!
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The ramp/patio stairs should be moved to the left so that they do not have to be removed to load a Harley or whatever toys that the rig will be carrying - in the current position the stairs would be in the way of toy loading
This is an interesting trailer but the couch looks very uncomfortable. They need to thicken the bottom cushion.