There is no comparison. It's like comparing Lombardi to the equipment manager for the girls Little Beaver County Day school football team. They PAID, we cheaped out and went woke
When Robert Kraft hired Gerard Mayo as the head coach, I thought it was Make-a-Wish type deal. I thought Gerard Mayo was maybe dying of cancer or aids, or something like that. And they were going to let him stand on the sidelines for a preseason game as a thank you for his years of service before he goes to be roommates with Jesus. I was wrong. Honestly, I'm surprised they won three games. I figured squeaking 1 tie out of the season would have been a bridge too far
Look at those impressive WINS...Cincy - game #1 - Belichick always said the first 3 games are still exhibition season. But turns out Cincy is surprisingly bad. They beat the mighty Jets and Bears - two of the leagues most disappointing bottom-feeding dogs. Most of our losses are HUGE blow-outs. Know who gets blown out a lot??? Teams NOT prepared.
@@Mark-wo9yt This is incorrect 6 of our loses at TD or Less. and 3 are 20 or more, 4 are roughly 2 score games. Patriots only had 2 true blowouts where they were lock out less 10 points. That only jets 21-3 and Chargers 40-7
As a 30+ year season ticket holder I believe The Pats need to make major changes starting with the front front office. Outside of Maye their draft was awful and the guy in charge of the draft, Wolf, is not new to drafting. He was there when Belicheck drafted terrible wideouts and he did the same thing in the last draft. Our #2 and #4 picks are awful. And to think we could have had McConkey! LA picked up a number of good free agents, had a great draft, and hired an experienced coach. As a result they are a respectable team with a bright future. No one wants to come here and play for coaches and a front office with no experience and no direction. Time to clean house. Wolf and everyone else needs to go. We are now the laughing stock of the NFL. Time for the adults in the room to take over.
They had a good game plan, (1st half), against the Bills last week. They showed Discipline during the first half. Don't know what happened in the 2nd half.
Should of hired Jim Harbaugh as head coach thats what i wanted but of course krafts owners are too scared they like to recycle and pick and get leftovers Drake Maye has no protection and no weapons straight garbage with no direction . Like i said 3 to 4 wins max this season.
You do realize why they wouldn't hire an HC like Harbaugh? $$ Everything has always been about $$ with tge Krafts. It's just that he had the 2 goats at HC and QB for 20 years to hide his cheapness!
On the Bright Side, Drake Maye has shown spark under a regime who is just completely dismantled right now. For him to come in and play like he has especially for the second half of the season is spectacular and a needed bright spot on the NE squad. Id also say that Demario Douglas is another piece NE can build around. Someone just needs to come in with a specific blue print and follow it to a tee. Drake can be that guy to steer the ship 🚢 As a Vikings fan I'm still very interested in how this is all going to turn out in NE, crazy to see a powerhouse for more then a decade turn into a team with no direction. I'm actually rooting for them and for Drake.
I'm curious what happens in Minny...they spent a high pick on McCarthy - who's the future - but Darnold had been surprisingly good (to some, not me - I saw him in SF)...tough to move on from winning to rolling the dice. Do they tag and trade Darnold? Who'd make the deal? Is it Darnold or the combination of O'Connell's offense PLUS JJ, Addison and Hockenson...and McCarthy is not just totally unknown, he's coming off a big injury... Maye has been OK - what is VERY bright is how good he can be if NE can put a LINE in front of him and give him a LEGIT WR - like Higgins - but there are a several older vet WRs who could help Maye AND a young WR room
Yea this is more than a talent issue. People need to be fired. I want an offensive minded coach. Nobody associated with Patriots history. Invest in offense & lineman. Forget about defense. Maye needs weapons and a better line
Jonathan Kraft did no coaching interviews. Just hired Mayo. It’s not mayo’s fault the team sucks. It’s mayo’s fault the team isn’t playing hard. Fire Kraft
Mayo was NOT a JONATHAN Kraft hire, he was a Robert rub n tug Kraft hire. Jonathan wanted Vrabel (and Vrabel wanted to come here). Rub n Tug over-ruled Jonathan and hired Mayo - who would NEVER have been hired w/ those (limited) qualifications and (zero) experience if he was white. I remember not one but TWO lies coming out of Foxboro after BB was axed. First was Belichick and Kraft had some sort of secret agreement: if BB was fired, Kraft had to hire Mayo. No way that's true. That's called a poison pill...Bill is fired and as a last f*** you to kraft, Krafty is FORCED to hire a totally incompetent unqualified guy as HC - making the team will be WORSE - which is hard to imagine. Then there was the Vrabel lie: he was too 'big and intimidating' to the little wussies (like Wolf) in the front office...what a joke. Vrabel WANTED to come here - rub n tug went woke instead
@ you haven’t been paying attention. Bob is done, he’s old. They are trying to get him into the hall and give him a farewell good bye. Jonathan has taken over and is at the top of decision making. They didn’t spend any money because they are fighting over who to pay and not pay. We brought no players in, made no trades, got no lineman to protect our future QB. It’s pathetic. Blaming Mayo and firing when we need to fire Johnny boy
Robert Kraft may want to see the Patriots win another Super Bowl during his lifetime, but is he willing to open his wallet and pay for the high-end coaches needed to do it?
Fire this bum. He did not bench Stevenson, the team has more horse collar tackles than any other team because somehow they don't seem to realize its a penalty, the O-line is bad, but the same penalties from the same people every week is coaching. I also don't think the center was really hurt, but this was them trying out Strange and putting Maye even more at risk. Other than keeping AVP as a QB coach-not a play caller-replace this staff top to bottom and pay people with real experience.
Harbaugh is a veteran head coach and the Chargers always had great players on both sides of the ball. They just needed a competent head coach to bring out their full potential. This a very bad comparison, the Patriots only have one good player and that is Gonzales. Drake Maye will be good once he develops more and gets an top receiver with an O-line that can block
Get rid of the whole coaching staff, especially the wide receivers coach because they can't develop anyone. Get rid of Smelliot Wolf and sell the f'in team to someone that has a little pride. Being patient with a team is one thing, but missing the playoffs and getting worse each year is unacceptable. Bring Vrabel and a new gm in. F'in DONE
I work for a 77 year old Owner at as a Toolmaker. The older he gets, the more stubborn, senile, and doesn't want to give up being the Boss!!!! But, it should be done..And, the more cheap he gets!! NFG
Robert Kraft isn't moving beyond Mayo. He isn't going to own up to the fact that he replaced Belichick with a coach as horrible as what they have now. Once the team starts really losing money and fan base, ownership MIGHT consider a change at HC but by then it's not likely that there will be any decent candidates available and they'll end up with another stiff. Robert Kraft set his team and his rookie head coach up for failure.
True... worse, the QB stands a good chance of getting injured if they can't sort out their offensive line issues. Maye does have the skill set to flourish but if things don't improve, his best bet would be to find a team that will give him a chance to succeed. It's like New England is now paying the price for having been so dominant for so long with Brady/Belichick. I think once Jerod Mayo is done as Patriots HC, he won't see another NFL coaching job again. That is why I think Kraft set him up.
All staff must go, including Mayo and Wolf. Wolf could have taken McConkey at 2, but traded out and took Polk and Baker, way to go Elliot! The entire draft was a bust, except for Maye. Clean house, send them all packing.
McConkey was the leading receiver in the game for the Chargers and he caught 8 passes for 94 yards and 2 touchdowns. The game marked the 9th consecutive time that McConkey had 50-plus receiving yards and allowed him to tie Odell Beckham for the most consecutive games with 50 yards or more by a rookie.
I do not understand the reasoning behind firing the coordinators and keeping Mayo.... that seems like the worst option but the most likely option. They'll keep Mayo, throw another coordinator at Maye and set him back. More of the same next year...
You don't understand the reasoning? If Krafty fired Mayo - which he SHOULD for several reasons - the woke MSM mob will RIP Kraft, his family, the team and the NE area as "racists". That's why Mayo stays on...Van Pelt has already been told he's out. Covington may be saved by his color
I have read that Belichick put this team together on his way out as a way to continue his legacy, and that it was his weakness as a talent spotter - with rare exceptions - that led to this. The more paranoid version is that this was his big FU to the Krafts for interfering with his decisions. Whatever, I grew up with a Patriots team that was consistently awful. It was embarrassing. Parcels and Bledsoe helped to change the culture. Then Belichick and - after Bledsoe’s injury - Brady, started on a historic run that was a nearly miraculous transformation. Now they’re in the depths again. I remember when the Detroit Lions were consistent contenders and I remember when they could hardly win one game. Now they’re back up. It happens in every sport. The Patriots can rise again but you may have to be a little patient. Bob Kraft was one of the miracle workers, but he’s now 83. I would like to see him shift more responsibility to Jonathan. When the coaching staff is such a mess, it takes top management to make the moves and it needs someone with energy to get on top of it. Hope we don’t have to wait too long.
For those that want vrabel ..if BB didn’t have a winning season with this team what makes you think Vrabel would? 😂😂 y’all really think vrabel can turn a practice squad into Super Bowl champs
As a pats fan, I was trying to be patient with mayo at the start of the season. But I'm leaning more towards mayo haters. Mayo Is 100% DEI Hire. And i want him gone. I liked him as a player but dude cant coach for sh*t. If kraft even thinks about running it back with this mediocre coaching staff. Then he's a fraud and those 6 SBs were all on brady. I hope he sells the team to anyone who cares about winning and can actually build one Or pass the ownership fully to his son. Mike Vrabel, your a patriot.
Speaking of DEI hire, keep in mind when the circle tightens around him he will break the glass and pull out the "racist Boston" card and Kraft cares about that perception way too much
@@theblackflame4002I can see that BS happening. Mayo already responded to a reporter earlier in the year. Kraft said, Color had nothing to do with him being hired, but Mayo chimed right in on the Race card. More BS we don't need!!!
loser. He won in Tenn, he's been successful head coach with a bum (Tannehill) at QB. He was a WAY WAY better choice than DEI hire Mayo - who had NO experience, NO qualifications and is a complete fool in press conferences. BUT - he's black - so he got the job. What could possibly go wrong
Jonathan Kraft SUCKS. FIRE KRAFT. How much money did the Krafts spend?!?! NO offensive line, no free agents. If we draft Hunter I’ll be so pissed. We need Abdul Carter or an Offensive line pick for our 1st pick. Get some draft picks in the process. Trade down to like 5 or 6. Boom you are turning the team around with players we NEED. There is no pocket, no time. Maye took a pounding today
Agree.Trade to 5 or 6 plus a legitimate NFL offensive lineman.Then draft a left tackle like Banks or Campbell.Maybe sign a free agent WR like Diggs but I don't see Higgins coming to a bad team like this even if they overpay.
Do some RESEARCH. I live in NE - Mayo was a ROBERT rub n tug KRAFT hire. His son JONATHAN was furious Mayo was hired OVER VRABEL - who surprisingly was let go by Tenn after Tenn said they were not letting him leave because they KNEW Vrabel and NE had a mutual interest in working together. Robert the doddering woke old fool went DEI and hired unqualified, inexperienced Mayo because of color THEN doubled down on his woke stupidity by hiring a broad - Robyn Glaser - as "Assistant to the Head Coach". Her "experience" before that promotion working with the NEW HEAD COACH was 'helping players with social justice issues'. I'm sure she was a HUGE help for unqualified Mayo... Don't blame Jonathan, blame the perv hand job king Robert Kraft. HE picked Mayo, not Jonathan - JK was so mad he never showed up for Mayo's first (disasterous) press conf. NE looks like they're picking 2nd - which is HUGE since it will be one of the two (below average) QBs. They can trade back to 4-7 and get at least another 1st and possibly 2nd and 3rd.
@ we are down linemen on offense and linebackers on defense. White is so fucking nasty. Add 1 stud like Carter and our corners instantly get better. Gonzales and Austin and Jones are good. Dugger had a down year. Baramore barely came back from clots. Missing Bentley. We need some pass rush but o line the worst. Lowe is so bad
This team is a joke and it starts from top to bottom. The Krafts are arrogant and stubborn and dont do things the right way. We dont have a GM and continue to do the same thing over and over again with guys from bills reign on the team. Why would we keep the same guys basically and the guy running the show when our drafts have been putrid for like a decade straight. Mayo was hired into a job he had no qualifications for and his staff is also horrible. And the roster is so dam bad you have like 5 guys on this team who I even want to stick around next year maybe a little more. This team needs to clear the front office, coaching staff and roster of some of these god awful players. Get a GM from the outside and the same thing with a coach get outside minds on this team finally for once.
It's very obvious that this team, has no respect or fear of Coach Mayo, AVP, or the Defensive Coordinator. They're not playing hard for their coaches, and obviously there is Zero Discipline for the players. That is the direct result you see during Game time.
When HALF the losses are blow outs - and they mostly came after a close game, but still a loss - that is clearly indicative of a coaching staff that is incapable of having their team PREPARED.
Mayo is getting a Guaranteed next year, BB only one 2 more games more then Mayo current record in this first season. After that year BB had a winning record. Your silly if you think no one else remembers that. But i believe that Mayo has BB imprinted on him hard enough that he going to revamp this team big time in the offseason. People forget that Wolfe did go after elite targets with some even getting better contracts then what they actually chose. We seen Wolfe go after targets to try to improve this team midseason with the OL. Patriots are going to be even more dangerous next year as Wolf and Mayo are a sleeping giant. Watch Mayo pull a coach prime in NE.
Don't get me wrong, I like Jerod Mayo. I really wanted him to succeed. However, as the season went on, it's clear that he just wasn't ready for the job. He needed to gradually increase his responsibilities much like Mike Vrabel. I think Bob Kraft should swallow what's left of his pride and let Jerod go. I'm not too sure about Eliot Wolfe as GM. He does have a great mentor in his dad. I'm just shocked how bad this has gotten.
Please, first of all RON Wolf has been out of football for DECADES and is 85. After the last Wolf draft, if dad is helping, he needs to stop. Maye was handed to us @ #3. My dog could have made that pick. Every pick AFTER that? Whiff. Zero. What about FA signings? Just as bad. The big not-former-NE-player was Austin Hooper. Brilliant. Mayo wasn't QUALIFIED or experienced enough to be promoted to DC, never mind head coach. But good luck getting rid of Mayo after one season without the woke msm mob ripping the Krafts and Patriots as 'racists'. Van Pelt will be made scapegoat - maybe Covington - but Mayo should get the boot. The D got WORSE under him, there's a new culture of losing (we know we're bad...) and Mayo is a disaster in front of the media.
Well, we can thank Robert craft for all of this mess he’s cheap. He’s never gonna change. He’s paying everybody and he’s gonna run it back again and we’re gonna stink again next year Drake May’s gonna get Paul to the ground every game like he did today.
They better spend this offseason get tee higs and draft TMac trade polk and baker ..and if ayo manor is available draft him too I’d say he’s better than Polk and baker
Without talent on the FIELD, it doesn't matter who coaches this team. Anybody remember the last few years of BB's talentless bunch. No, stop panicking everyone. If they lose to Buffalo, they get the number 1 overall pick. Shit teams are supposed to get the number 1 pick...and the top pick in each round after as well. Plus, there is also Atlanta's 3rd rounder as well...thats not a small chip. Do the smart thing that rebuilding teams do...either pick the best guy at every draft position OR find a team that goes mental for one of the QB's coming out...theres always someone who falls in love with a prospect and will overpay...and speaking of overpays...this team HAS to overpay for free agents with the millionaire tax and shitty weather. Hey, who has the most monet under the cap for 2025? The Pats. If the Krafts want t a new GM and Coach, go for it...but be prepared for someone who wants control over everything...thats how its done today.
Sorry man but to act like the Chargers and our Patriots are/were starting in the same place is lazy, the Chargers had some great foundation pieces and just needed to add some polish, we are starting at 0 out of 100 and they were at 60 before last off-season
The Chargers went out a hired i.e. PAID FOR - a LEGITIMATE HEAD COACH. That HC then hired legitimate coordinators. What did we do? We hired a guy with zero experience (3 years coaching ONLY INSIDE LBs) - a guy not even QUALIFIED TO BE DC - to be our HC because of skin color. It was a stupid woke DEI decision by an old fool attempting to distract from his new reputation as meddling owner who likes asian massages.
Maybe Kraft though hiring people who don't deserve the job and have no real credentials was cool!? Well is being a laughing stock and a complete joke cool? Fire this idiot and get back to the business of winning please. And never forget that you fired the best coach ever for a "charity case" that shouldn't have even been interviewed!
un compare chargers its seahawks you want to compare to mayo s pats very similar situation they got rid p-eat carol then in comes ravens defensive coordinator as head coach the first year same as mayo yet Mike MacDonalds hawks could be in playoffs while mayo is well not worthy of liking mikes shoes
The team sucks and the chargers are just overall a better team and like I said how many wins did we have last year? This team needs to stop being cheap and get talent and mayo isnt going anywhere cause he knew he needed talent on this team but Kraft didn’t want to spend
Before the incompetent front office breaks the bank on a talent like Higgins, they have to put an OL in front of Maye that can give him a couple seconds to throw. NE has arguably the worst OL in football - that has to change.
This comment section is gross. Yeah Mayo has made some mistakes. But we all know this team isn’t going anywhere without … better players. Give Jerod year two, and get him some personnel. The racist stuff here is embarrassing. Wolf is the one under pressure to get the team better at basically every position.
Mayo needs more time, but the GM and Offensive Coordinator needs to go. We have an opportunity to get talent in this next draft but we need a GM that knows good personnel
It's ALSO racist to spew there is a different standard for him because he' black. First of all, donkey, no experience, no qualifications - HIRED because of skin color. If he was white, he NEVER would have been considered as HC, never mind hired. Second, he played LB and had a couple years coaching INSIDE LBs so the ASSUMPTION was the tiny expertise he MIGHT have would be on DEFENSE...and the defense is WORSE, not better. Third - everybody assumed he'd change - IMPROVE - the 'culture' which soured in Belichick's last couple seasons. Players hated him, didn't want to play for him - and it SHOWED. Mayo was SUPPOSED to change that - young coach, a 'players coach'... the culture is worse if anything. The team is unprepared most of the time and players are regularly thrown under the bus by their HC. Finally - Mayo is TERRIBLE in press confs...rips everyone but himself. When you hire based on COLOR ONLY - it's not 'racist'...it's dumb
@@polandfresh101 - Mayo's FIRST (disasterous) press conf he admitted he 'sees race in EVERYTHING'. Worst of all, he made sure to blurt this racist comment seconds AFTER doddering old fool Robert Kraft told the media he did not hire Mayo based on color, he doesn't 'see color' when hiring people...and IMMEDIATELY Mayo blurts out "I DO see color in EVERYTHING..."
Lmfao lmfao . Yooooo really lol wat about the WR them chargers had aka or have . Dude got the bad end of the stick and people think he was gonna win . Dawg Yall predicted them to be trash now they trash . And Yall still throw dirty . Channel assss facts keep it real lol
what the hell language is that? Why not speak English like the rest of us? However, after running your comment thru my ebonics and ghetto language translator, I can see you place NONE of the blame on Mayo, for painfully obvious reasons. Yes, foo - we expected them to be bad...not this bad and certainly NOT for the defense to be WORSE under the new SUPPOSEDLY 'defensive-specialist' head coach Mayo. Nevermind he's a media disaster, constantly throwing everybody but HIMSELF under the bus. Know what kind of teams are blown out in more than half their games? Poorly coached teams, that's who
@ I never heard the media talk bad on any other coach knowing that coach Maye was the only black coach ever to coach the Patriots as a head coach I never seen that in the roster he was given you supposed to fix that in one year give me a break brother let’s talk real life
Nobody forgot - I know I didn't. Belichick the GM killed this team. In Brady's last 3-4 years - when NE was still winning go back and look at BB's horrendous drafting. NE continued to win (thanks to Brady AND a top 3 defense) BUT, as soon as Brady (and others) left via free agency, the players DRAFTED and/or signed expected to fill holes couldn't. They stunk. BUT as long as Brady and NE was winning, nobody looked at the horrific drafting... For years BB cried 'it's not just the QB (Brady) it's the system!'. To PROVE that he plugged in washed up sCam Newton to replace Brady confident if sCam followed his 'system' NE would continue to win - in part because they STILL had a top defense - NE's D ranked 7th that year. How'd that work out? Horrendous. Brady was a MUCH bigger piece of the puzzle, Newton was a disaster who didn't want to follow ANY system and years of poor drafting started this team's nosedive. No QB, little talent and the D getting worse every year.
Most uninspired Patriots team I've watched sense the early 70's. Bob Kraft must be having 2nd/3rd thoughts about Mayo as HC. If he isn't he hasn't been watching. The idea of Mike Vrabel coming back seems more then just possible to me now. AS for other coaches I just don't know but it's reasonable a new HC could want his own assistants?
This coaching staff needs an over haul, Tomorrow! We know Jacoby, Milton would have been interesting to see what if he can do. A wasted opportunity, those are coaching moments. No he would not win the game but it would have been a little experienced. Yes out coached all year! Nobody wants to come here because of the situation! No matter how much money. How about this swallow your pride and bring BB back can he come back? We have never drafted WR. Bills lose the fix will be in for Vegas. I hope we lose because the draft.
@mrcandycanemcc6686 you probably was a Mac Jones fan giving him every excuse Shedur and Travis don't make excuses they make plays and would change the current state of the franchise numbers don't lie Drake has never or will never put up Shedur numbers 74% accuracy with a terrible oline not to mention being sacked most in fbs but still shines nothing about that says bust your delusional and probably a Deion hater good day bum
Pats aren't tanking they just are unable to win.
Hahaha yes true statement
Facts.
Too bad they will probably win next weekend and ruin their draft position.
They will do nothing
Probably…
Harbaugh is also a thoroughly experienced championship head coach.
Correct, he is and honestly I think he wins a SB for the Chargers.
Comparing Jerod Mayo's experience to Jim Harbaugh is crazy
There is no comparison. It's like comparing Lombardi to the equipment manager for the girls Little Beaver County Day school football team. They PAID, we cheaped out and went woke
Fire the owner!
At least the 80 yr. Old Cat. Let his son run it..
No, they’re gone for Jerry Jones time to go
When Robert Kraft hired Gerard Mayo as the head coach, I thought it was Make-a-Wish type deal. I thought Gerard Mayo was maybe dying of cancer or aids, or something like that. And they were going to let him stand on the sidelines for a preseason game as a thank you for his years of service before he goes to be roommates with Jesus. I was wrong. Honestly, I'm surprised they won three games. I figured squeaking 1 tie out of the season would have been a bridge too far
Honestly, I laughed at this comment.
Make-A-Wish. 😂
Look at those impressive WINS...Cincy - game #1 - Belichick always said the first 3 games are still exhibition season. But turns out Cincy is surprisingly bad. They beat the mighty Jets and Bears - two of the leagues most disappointing bottom-feeding dogs. Most of our losses are HUGE blow-outs. Know who gets blown out a lot??? Teams NOT prepared.
@@Mark-wo9yt This is incorrect 6 of our loses at TD or Less. and 3 are 20 or more, 4 are roughly 2 score games. Patriots only had 2 true blowouts where they were lock out less 10 points. That only jets 21-3 and Chargers 40-7
Mayo needs to go, Kraft needs to pump money around Maye..
Ladd McConkey....enough said.
We missed so terribly on that pick. I thought he would’ve been a great fit here in NE but this just sucks.
What a miss…
@@Jagernautt Yeah, he was way too much like past greats to pick him....would make no sense
As a 30+ year season ticket holder I believe The Pats need to make major changes starting with the front front office. Outside of Maye their draft was awful and the guy in charge of the draft, Wolf, is not new to drafting. He was there when Belicheck drafted terrible wideouts and he did the same thing in the last draft. Our #2 and #4 picks are awful. And to think we could have had McConkey! LA picked up a number of good free agents, had a great draft, and hired an experienced coach. As a result they are a respectable team with a bright future. No one wants to come here and play for coaches and a front office with no experience and no direction. Time to clean house. Wolf and everyone else needs to go. We are now the laughing stock of the NFL. Time for the adults in the room to take over.
Could not agree more…front office needs to be clear out…in an offensive heavy draft last year and you only hit on Maye…that’s bad!
Thought they were competitive last week against the Bills. Blown out this week. Jerod's got to goooo!
Bills were unprepared and not taking NE seriously it was 24-7 after the first quarter
Starting to seem like everyone wants this
They had a good game plan, (1st half), against the Bills last week. They showed Discipline during the first half. Don't know what happened in the 2nd half.
I was screaming at the TV for them to take McConky. They traded back for Polk.
How did that work out? 😂😁😁😁
@@johnbernacki6155 I was also screaming at the TV watching Ladd put up a monster game with nearly three TDs. So, not so well.
Should of hired Jim Harbaugh as head coach thats what i wanted but of course krafts owners are too scared they like to recycle and pick and get leftovers Drake Maye has no protection and no weapons straight garbage with no direction . Like i said 3 to 4 wins max this season.
You do realize why they wouldn't hire an HC like Harbaugh? $$ Everything has always been about $$ with tge Krafts. It's just that he had the 2 goats at HC and QB for 20 years to hide his cheapness!
On the Bright Side, Drake Maye has shown spark under a regime who is just completely dismantled right now. For him to come in and play like he has especially for the second half of the season is spectacular and a needed bright spot on the NE squad. Id also say that Demario Douglas is another piece NE can build around. Someone just needs to come in with a specific blue print and follow it to a tee. Drake can be that guy to steer the ship 🚢 As a Vikings fan I'm still very interested in how this is all going to turn out in NE, crazy to see a powerhouse for more then a decade turn into a team with no direction. I'm actually rooting for them and for Drake.
I'm curious what happens in Minny...they spent a high pick on McCarthy - who's the future - but Darnold had been surprisingly good (to some, not me - I saw him in SF)...tough to move on from winning to rolling the dice. Do they tag and trade Darnold? Who'd make the deal? Is it Darnold or the combination of O'Connell's offense PLUS JJ, Addison and Hockenson...and McCarthy is not just totally unknown, he's coming off a big injury...
Maye has been OK - what is VERY bright is how good he can be if NE can put a LINE in front of him and give him a LEGIT WR - like Higgins - but there are a several older vet WRs who could help Maye AND a young WR room
5:51 my dog when he sees a squirrel
The Patriots coaching staff has destroyed a respectable defense and done nothing to a horrible offense. Send them all packing.
Excellent commentary... could agree with you more
Means a lot! Appreciate you always watching 🫡🤙
Kraft is like a deer in the headlights. Does not know what to do. Mayo can't coach special teams or offense--or even defense.
Remember when they said the Dynasty was all Brady and Belichick was a historic loser?
Yea this is more than a talent issue. People need to be fired. I want an offensive minded coach. Nobody associated with Patriots history. Invest in offense & lineman. Forget about defense. Maye needs weapons and a better line
This was the first game I saw Maye legit rattled and frustrated and I'm amazed it took this long.
Yea that’s a good point…he for sure looked rattled
The first two who need to go are Wolfe and Groh. I have zero confidence they can get this draft right. They are terrible
Nah, Mayo and Wolfe. Both operations are embarrassingly pathetic. Those two MUST go.
What coordinator is going to work under Mayo?
Jonathan Kraft did no coaching interviews. Just hired Mayo. It’s not mayo’s fault the team sucks. It’s mayo’s fault the team isn’t playing hard. Fire Kraft
Probably the most logical analogy of the current situation!!
Mayo was NOT a JONATHAN Kraft hire, he was a Robert rub n tug Kraft hire. Jonathan wanted Vrabel (and Vrabel wanted to come here). Rub n Tug over-ruled Jonathan and hired Mayo - who would NEVER have been hired w/ those (limited) qualifications and (zero) experience if he was white.
I remember not one but TWO lies coming out of Foxboro after BB was axed. First was Belichick and Kraft had some sort of secret agreement: if BB was fired, Kraft had to hire Mayo. No way that's true. That's called a poison pill...Bill is fired and as a last f*** you to kraft, Krafty is FORCED to hire a totally incompetent unqualified guy as HC - making the team will be WORSE - which is hard to imagine.
Then there was the Vrabel lie: he was too 'big and intimidating' to the little wussies (like Wolf) in the front office...what a joke. Vrabel WANTED to come here - rub n tug went woke instead
@ you haven’t been paying attention. Bob is done, he’s old. They are trying to get him into the hall and give him a farewell good bye. Jonathan has taken over and is at the top of decision making. They didn’t spend any money because they are fighting over who to pay and not pay. We brought no players in, made no trades, got no lineman to protect our future QB. It’s pathetic. Blaming Mayo and firing when we need to fire Johnny boy
Robert Kraft may want to see the Patriots win another Super Bowl during his lifetime, but is he willing to open his wallet and pay for the high-end coaches needed to do it?
Fire this bum. He did not bench Stevenson, the team has more horse collar tackles than any other team because somehow they don't seem to realize its a penalty, the O-line is bad, but the same penalties from the same people every week is coaching. I also don't think the center was really hurt, but this was them trying out Strange and putting Maye even more at risk.
Other than keeping AVP as a QB coach-not a play caller-replace this staff top to bottom and pay people with real experience.
The patriots need an experienced head coach. The harbours would have been great or vrabel. You can't win with a head coach learning on the job.
This is Kraft's mess, he needs to clean it up.
FIRE MAYO!!!!!!! FIRE COVINGTON !!!!!!! HIRE VRABEL/GRUDEN HC!!!!!! HIRE DABOL/McDANIELS OC!!!!!, HIRE EBERFLUS/SALEH DC!!!!!, AVP QB COACH!
Gruden would be fun! Haha
Hire verbal
And McDaniel
Y'all need to just let the team rebuild smfh stop playing coach and play fan....
Gruden??? Hell no
Harbaugh is a veteran head coach and the Chargers always had great players on both sides of the ball. They just needed a competent head coach to bring out their full potential. This a very bad comparison, the Patriots only have one good player and that is Gonzales. Drake Maye will be good once he develops more and gets an top receiver with an O-line that can block
Get rid of the whole coaching staff, especially the wide receivers coach because they can't develop anyone. Get rid of Smelliot Wolf and sell the f'in team to someone that has a little pride. Being patient with a team is one thing, but missing the playoffs and getting worse each year is unacceptable. Bring Vrabel and a new gm in. F'in DONE
Keep Pellegrino! Going to help Gonzo become All-Pro like Gilmore.
The last thing we need is Milton. If he makes one play the hysterical NE media will be squealing there's a QB controversy....
I think Maye has proven he is THE GUY but Milton would have been fun to watch
How are we going to see what he can do in a game???????
Maybe the krafts have become out of touch
Just an interesting move for sure
I work for a 77 year old Owner at as a Toolmaker. The older he gets, the more stubborn, senile, and doesn't want to give up being the Boss!!!! But, it should be done..And, the more cheap he gets!! NFG
Kraft has lost it.
Robert Kraft isn't moving beyond Mayo. He isn't going to own up to the fact that he replaced Belichick with a coach as horrible as what they have now.
Once the team starts really losing money and fan base, ownership MIGHT consider a change at HC but by then it's not likely that there will be any decent candidates available and they'll end up with another stiff.
Robert Kraft set his team and his rookie head coach up for failure.
And rookie QB
True... worse, the QB stands a good chance of getting injured if they can't sort out their offensive line issues. Maye does have the skill set to flourish but if things don't improve, his best bet would be to find a team that will give him a chance to succeed.
It's like New England is now paying the price for having been so dominant for so long with Brady/Belichick.
I think once Jerod Mayo is done as Patriots HC, he won't see another NFL coaching job again. That is why I think Kraft set him up.
All staff must go, including Mayo and Wolf. Wolf could have taken McConkey at 2, but traded out and took Polk and Baker, way to go Elliot! The entire draft was a bust, except for Maye. Clean house, send them all packing.
McConkey was the leading receiver in the game for the Chargers and he caught 8 passes for 94 yards and 2 touchdowns. The game marked the 9th consecutive time that McConkey had 50-plus receiving yards and allowed him to tie Odell Beckham for the most consecutive games with 50 yards or more by a rookie.
I do not understand the reasoning behind firing the coordinators and keeping Mayo.... that seems like the worst option but the most likely option. They'll keep Mayo, throw another coordinator at Maye and set him back. More of the same next year...
You don't understand the reasoning? If Krafty fired Mayo - which he SHOULD for several reasons - the woke MSM mob will RIP Kraft, his family, the team and the NE area as "racists". That's why Mayo stays on...Van Pelt has already been told he's out. Covington may be saved by his color
GO CHARGERS!!!...
Hahaha
I have read that Belichick put this team together on his way out as a way to continue his legacy, and that it was his weakness as a talent spotter - with rare exceptions - that led to this. The more paranoid version is that this was his big FU to the Krafts for interfering with his decisions. Whatever, I grew up with a Patriots team that was consistently awful. It was embarrassing. Parcels and Bledsoe helped to change the culture. Then Belichick and - after Bledsoe’s injury - Brady, started on a historic run that was a nearly miraculous transformation. Now they’re in the depths again. I remember when the Detroit Lions were consistent contenders and I remember when they could hardly win one game. Now they’re back up. It happens in every sport. The Patriots can rise again but you may have to be a little patient. Bob Kraft was one of the miracle workers, but he’s now 83. I would like to see him shift more responsibility to Jonathan. When the coaching staff is such a mess, it takes top management to make the moves and it needs someone with energy to get on top of it. Hope we don’t have to wait too long.
Anyone miss Belichick? Me.
I'm happy to see the team lose after running bill out of town they deserve everything they have coming .
For those that want vrabel ..if BB didn’t have a winning season with this team what makes you think Vrabel would? 😂😂 y’all really think vrabel can turn a practice squad into Super Bowl champs
If you own season tickets it’s time to send a message to the owners .
As a pats fan, I was trying to be patient with mayo at the start of the season. But I'm leaning more towards mayo haters. Mayo Is 100% DEI Hire. And i want him gone. I liked him as a player but dude cant coach for sh*t. If kraft even thinks about running it back with this mediocre coaching staff. Then he's a fraud and those 6 SBs were all on brady. I hope he sells the team to anyone who cares about winning and can actually build one Or pass the ownership fully to his son.
Mike Vrabel, your a patriot.
The patriots need an offensive head coach not someone like vrabil. You have a stud young QB who will be the center of your team.
Speaking of DEI hire, keep in mind when the circle tightens around him he will break the glass and pull out the "racist Boston" card and Kraft cares about that perception way too much
Grow up dude.
@@theblackflame4002I can see that BS happening. Mayo already responded to a reporter earlier in the year. Kraft said, Color had nothing to do with him being hired, but Mayo chimed right in on the Race card. More BS we don't need!!!
Vrabels a big dummy too
loser. He won in Tenn, he's been successful head coach with a bum (Tannehill) at QB. He was a WAY WAY better choice than DEI hire Mayo - who had NO experience, NO qualifications and is a complete fool in press conferences. BUT - he's black - so he got the job.
What could possibly go wrong
Why would anybody want to come to NE poor coaching, Terrible drafting and an owner who is more interested in DEI then winning
Money would be the biggest reason why haha
Drake maye needs to play better. He makes to many errors and melts in pressure situations.
Idk maybe put some talent around him?
Jonathan Kraft SUCKS. FIRE KRAFT. How much money did the Krafts spend?!?! NO offensive line, no free agents. If we draft Hunter I’ll be so pissed. We need Abdul Carter or an Offensive line pick for our 1st pick. Get some draft picks in the process. Trade down to like 5 or 6. Boom you are turning the team around with players we NEED. There is no pocket, no time. Maye took a pounding today
Agree.Trade to 5 or 6 plus a legitimate NFL offensive lineman.Then draft a left tackle like Banks or Campbell.Maybe sign a free agent WR like Diggs but I don't see Higgins coming to a bad team like this even if they overpay.
@ hard pass on Diggs. But I agree
Do some RESEARCH. I live in NE - Mayo was a ROBERT rub n tug KRAFT hire. His son JONATHAN was furious Mayo was hired OVER VRABEL - who surprisingly was let go by Tenn after Tenn said they were not letting him leave because they KNEW Vrabel and NE had a mutual interest in working together.
Robert the doddering woke old fool went DEI and hired unqualified, inexperienced Mayo because of color THEN doubled down on his woke stupidity by hiring a broad - Robyn Glaser - as "Assistant to the Head Coach". Her "experience" before that promotion working with the NEW HEAD COACH was 'helping players with social justice issues'. I'm sure she was a HUGE help for unqualified Mayo...
Don't blame Jonathan, blame the perv hand job king Robert Kraft. HE picked Mayo, not Jonathan - JK was so mad he never showed up for Mayo's first (disasterous) press conf.
NE looks like they're picking 2nd - which is HUGE since it will be one of the two (below average) QBs. They can trade back to 4-7 and get at least another 1st and possibly 2nd and 3rd.
@@knightsfb32 Abdul Carter would also be a great pick.He'd improve the defense immediately.
@ we are down linemen on offense and linebackers on defense. White is so fucking nasty. Add 1 stud like Carter and our corners instantly get better. Gonzales and Austin and Jones are good. Dugger had a down year. Baramore barely came back from clots. Missing Bentley. We need some pass rush but o line the worst. Lowe is so bad
Kraft and Pats haven’t been the same since he got cut off from the handys.
I wonder if Jacoby Brisset could become a member of the Offensive Coaching Staff? How bad could he be?
This team is a joke and it starts from top to bottom. The Krafts are arrogant and stubborn and dont do things the right way. We dont have a GM and continue to do the same thing over and over again with guys from bills reign on the team. Why would we keep the same guys basically and the guy running the show when our drafts have been putrid for like a decade straight. Mayo was hired into a job he had no qualifications for and his staff is also horrible. And the roster is so dam bad you have like 5 guys on this team who I even want to stick around next year maybe a little more. This team needs to clear the front office, coaching staff and roster of some of these god awful players. Get a GM from the outside and the same thing with a coach get outside minds on this team finally for once.
It's very obvious that this team, has no respect or fear of Coach Mayo, AVP, or the Defensive Coordinator. They're not playing hard for their coaches, and obviously there is Zero Discipline for the players. That is the direct result you see during Game time.
When HALF the losses are blow outs - and they mostly came after a close game, but still a loss - that is clearly indicative of a coaching staff that is incapable of having their team PREPARED.
@@Mark-wo9yt Seems like none of Belichek has rubbed off on Mayo, and he goes out of his way to be Anti -Belichek as much as possible! Not good at all.
Currently, the only stat that matters to me is #2 draft position.
So true!
Mayo is getting a Guaranteed next year, BB only one 2 more games more then Mayo current record in this first season. After that year BB had a winning record. Your silly if you think no one else remembers that. But i believe that Mayo has BB imprinted on him hard enough that he going to revamp this team big time in the offseason. People forget that Wolfe did go after elite targets with some even getting better contracts then what they actually chose. We seen Wolfe go after targets to try to improve this team midseason with the OL. Patriots are going to be even more dangerous next year as Wolf and Mayo are a sleeping giant. Watch Mayo pull a coach prime in NE.
Don't worry Robert is the new Jerry Jones, he hand-picked this staff and was the Reason they won those six Superbowl's,
Yo Bob, for the love of God will ya pickup up the phone and Vrabel and McDaniels please...
Don't get me wrong, I like Jerod Mayo. I really wanted him to succeed. However, as the season went on, it's clear that he just wasn't ready for the job. He needed to gradually increase his responsibilities much like Mike Vrabel. I think Bob Kraft should swallow what's left of his pride and let Jerod go. I'm not too sure about Eliot Wolfe as GM. He does have a great mentor in his dad. I'm just shocked how bad this has gotten.
Please, first of all RON Wolf has been out of football for DECADES and is 85. After the last Wolf draft, if dad is helping, he needs to stop. Maye was handed to us @ #3. My dog could have made that pick. Every pick AFTER that? Whiff. Zero. What about FA signings? Just as bad. The big not-former-NE-player was Austin Hooper. Brilliant.
Mayo wasn't QUALIFIED or experienced enough to be promoted to DC, never mind head coach. But good luck getting rid of Mayo after one season without the woke msm mob ripping the Krafts and Patriots as 'racists'. Van Pelt will be made scapegoat - maybe Covington - but Mayo should get the boot. The D got WORSE under him, there's a new culture of losing (we know we're bad...) and Mayo is a disaster in front of the media.
Better coaching would elevate maye and the team. Vrable and mcdaniels, please!
How can you even consider comparing Chargers coack to Pats? Apples to oranges, dude. No comparison!!!
Well, we can thank Robert craft for all of this mess he’s cheap. He’s never gonna change. He’s paying everybody and he’s gonna run it back again and we’re gonna stink again next year Drake May’s gonna get Paul to the ground every game like he did today.
Robert Kraft should step aside and let Jonathan take over.
If they stand pat, they will be doomed for another year, or more!!!
Gibson did not start.
WRONG!! No moves until after wk 18. But theyd best be lining up candidates quickly, like agent discussions NOW!!
Bring. Mike to coach
What are you talking about?? Everyone knew the chargers were going to be very good. He’s a veteran proven head coach.
They better spend this offseason get tee higs and draft TMac trade polk and baker ..and if ayo manor is available draft him too I’d say he’s better than Polk and baker
Without talent on the FIELD, it doesn't matter who coaches this team. Anybody remember the last few years of BB's talentless bunch. No, stop panicking everyone. If they lose to Buffalo, they get the number 1 overall pick. Shit teams are supposed to get the number 1 pick...and the top pick in each round after as well. Plus, there is also Atlanta's 3rd rounder as well...thats not a small chip. Do the smart thing that rebuilding teams do...either pick the best guy at every draft position OR find a team that goes mental for one of the QB's coming out...theres always someone who falls in love with a prospect and will overpay...and speaking of overpays...this team HAS to overpay for free agents with the millionaire tax and shitty weather. Hey, who has the most monet under the cap for 2025? The Pats. If the Krafts want t a new GM and Coach, go for it...but be prepared for someone who wants control over everything...thats how its done today.
Sorry man but to act like the Chargers and our Patriots are/were starting in the same place is lazy, the Chargers had some great foundation pieces and just needed to add some polish, we are starting at 0 out of 100 and they were at 60 before last off-season
The Chargers went out a hired i.e. PAID FOR - a LEGITIMATE HEAD COACH. That HC then hired legitimate coordinators. What did we do? We hired a guy with zero experience (3 years coaching ONLY INSIDE LBs) - a guy not even QUALIFIED TO BE DC - to be our HC because of skin color. It was a stupid woke DEI decision by an old fool attempting to distract from his new reputation as meddling owner who likes asian massages.
They are not going g to make any moves, reason is one game left the off season they will decide what moves they will take..
Maybe Kraft though hiring people who don't deserve the job and have no real credentials was cool!? Well is being a laughing stock and a complete joke cool? Fire this idiot and get back to the business of winning please. And never forget that you fired the best coach ever for a "charity case" that shouldn't have even been interviewed!
keep mayo
Nothing will happen…
un compare chargers its seahawks you want to compare to mayo s pats very similar situation they got rid p-eat carol then in comes ravens defensive coordinator as head coach the first year same as mayo yet Mike MacDonalds hawks could be in playoffs while mayo is well not worthy of liking mikes shoes
The team sucks and the chargers are just overall a better team and like I said how many wins did we have last year? This team needs to stop being cheap and get talent and mayo isnt going anywhere cause he knew he needed talent on this team but Kraft didn’t want to spend
Before the incompetent front office breaks the bank on a talent like Higgins, they have to put an OL in front of Maye that can give him a couple seconds to throw. NE has arguably the worst OL in football - that has to change.
This comment section is gross. Yeah Mayo has made some mistakes. But we all know this team isn’t going anywhere without … better players. Give Jerod year two, and get him some personnel. The racist stuff here is embarrassing. Wolf is the one under pressure to get the team better at basically every position.
Mayo needs more time, but the GM and Offensive Coordinator needs to go. We have an opportunity to get talent in this next draft but we need a GM that knows good personnel
Mayo is an admitted racist.
All of the backlash is warranted. He has a ginormous ego and wants to absorb zero accountability for his failures.
It's ALSO racist to spew there is a different standard for him because he' black. First of all, donkey, no experience, no qualifications - HIRED because of skin color. If he was white, he NEVER would have been considered as HC, never mind hired.
Second, he played LB and had a couple years coaching INSIDE LBs so the ASSUMPTION was the tiny expertise he MIGHT have would be on DEFENSE...and the defense is WORSE, not better.
Third - everybody assumed he'd change - IMPROVE - the 'culture' which soured in Belichick's last couple seasons. Players hated him, didn't want to play for him - and it SHOWED. Mayo was SUPPOSED to change that - young coach, a 'players coach'... the culture is worse if anything. The team is unprepared most of the time and players are regularly thrown under the bus by their HC. Finally - Mayo is TERRIBLE in press confs...rips everyone but himself.
When you hire based on COLOR ONLY - it's not 'racist'...it's dumb
@@polandfresh101 - Mayo's FIRST (disasterous) press conf he admitted he 'sees race in EVERYTHING'. Worst of all, he made sure to blurt this racist comment seconds AFTER doddering old fool Robert Kraft told the media he did not hire Mayo based on color, he doesn't 'see color' when hiring people...and IMMEDIATELY Mayo blurts out "I DO see color in EVERYTHING..."
Lmfao lmfao . Yooooo really lol wat about the WR them chargers had aka or have . Dude got the bad end of the stick and people think he was gonna win . Dawg Yall predicted them to be trash now they trash . And Yall still throw dirty . Channel assss facts keep it real lol
what the hell language is that? Why not speak English like the rest of us? However, after running your comment thru my ebonics and ghetto language translator, I can see you place NONE of the blame on Mayo, for painfully obvious reasons.
Yes, foo - we expected them to be bad...not this bad and certainly NOT for the defense to be WORSE under the new SUPPOSEDLY 'defensive-specialist' head coach Mayo. Nevermind he's a media disaster, constantly throwing everybody but HIMSELF under the bus. Know what kind of teams are blown out in more than half their games? Poorly coached teams, that's who
@ I never heard the media talk bad on any other coach knowing that coach Maye was the only black coach ever to coach the Patriots as a head coach I never seen that in the roster he was given you supposed to fix that in one year give me a break brother let’s talk real life
The only move I want to see is FIRE Wokeyo and his whole staff and hire Vrabel and McDaniel's
Belichick went 4 an 13 last year i think people foget that Belichick had a losing record the pat 4 years
Nobody forgot - I know I didn't. Belichick the GM killed this team. In Brady's last 3-4 years - when NE was still winning go back and look at BB's horrendous drafting. NE continued to win (thanks to Brady AND a top 3 defense) BUT, as soon as Brady (and others) left via free agency, the players DRAFTED and/or signed expected to fill holes couldn't. They stunk. BUT as long as Brady and NE was winning, nobody looked at the horrific drafting...
For years BB cried 'it's not just the QB (Brady) it's the system!'. To PROVE that he plugged in washed up sCam Newton to replace Brady confident if sCam followed his 'system' NE would continue to win - in part because they STILL had a top defense - NE's D ranked 7th that year.
How'd that work out? Horrendous. Brady was a MUCH bigger piece of the puzzle, Newton was a disaster who didn't want to follow ANY system and years of poor drafting started this team's nosedive. No QB, little talent and the D getting worse every year.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most uninspired Patriots team I've watched sense the early 70's. Bob Kraft must be having 2nd/3rd thoughts about Mayo as HC. If he isn't he hasn't been watching. The idea of Mike Vrabel coming back seems more then just possible to me now. AS for other coaches I just don't know but it's reasonable a new HC could want his own assistants?
Covington Needs to go also.
Why would Vrabel want to come here. Terrible roster and a team that can't draft . There are better option for e
This coaching staff needs an over haul, Tomorrow! We know Jacoby, Milton would have been interesting to see what if he can do. A wasted opportunity, those are coaching moments. No he would not win the game but it would have been a little experienced. Yes out coached all year! Nobody wants to come here because of the situation! No matter how much money. How about this swallow your pride and bring BB back can he come back? We have never drafted WR. Bills lose the fix will be in for Vegas. I hope we lose because the draft.
Trade Maye for giants pick and draft Shedur and Hunter
This is the wildest comment! 😂
Sanders is a bust. and Hunter is overrated. Idk why ya'll so obsessed with them knowing they only played well against bad teams.
You're a clown. Maye isn't the problem. In fact, he and Gonzalez are the only bright spots on this team.
@mrcandycanemcc6686 you probably was a Mac Jones fan giving him every excuse Shedur and Travis don't make excuses they make plays and would change the current state of the franchise numbers don't lie Drake has never or will never put up Shedur numbers 74% accuracy with a terrible oline not to mention being sacked most in fbs but still shines nothing about that says bust your delusional and probably a Deion hater good day bum
Haha maye isn't the problem. He's doing extraordinary things with these bums
Robert Kraft may have to bring in a new general manager, but for sure, the coordinators have to be fired and most of the players.
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