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Clearing a Hillside with the Cat 977! ( Then I Broke it!)
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I worked as an engineer at cat for 34 years. We had an issue with some switches and relays. if moisture gets inside the switches, little ice balls can form on the contacts and then the contact does not make contact. Normally the switches are sealed, but versions that are not sealed are available in the aftermarket, or the seal just failed over time. Anyway, you could check continuity through your key switch when trying to start. a test light on the key switch start terminal will tell you if thats where the problem is when its happening. Good luck!
Soak the switches and relays with WD40.
@@tiredoldmechanic1791 works every time.
Gregg McClelland
Hi! Do you have any tips on how i can find a engine for my Caterpillar 933F. I live in Sweden and it's really hard to find stuff from over here. My engine is toast. I think from searching it's called 320. Serial number on the machine is 42A5019.
I've tried to mail different companies in USA with no luck 😞 Do you know anything about this old machine? /Oskar
@@Oknsons call Cleveland bros cat. They tracked down some obsolete engine in some 3rd world South American hell hole for a friend of mine…. I couldn’t believe it.
@@DieselCreek okay thanks, will look them up and give it a try!👍
Next time when your tracks come off put something under the rear counter weight like a big block of wood or a stump or something and when you use the bucket to pick up the front the rear of the track will also come off the ground. Then you can just use the back hoe to guide the track back on with out pressure on it. It was pretty lucky that it just drove back on that probably made your day.
yelp thats how we got them back on yrs ago when i ran the ones i did.
I can remember working in the extreme cold in Upstate New York with tracked equipment. At the end of the day we would always try to park the tracked vehicles up on a couple logs. This would make it easier to clean the tracks and rollers and keep the ground from freezing to the tracks. I grew up in Westmoreland County so I appreciate your cold weather !.
heck ur not that far from me then. howdy!
At the local landfill we'd also use a big air compressor to blow out the tracks. It was great for anything except mud. In the winter it was awesome.
when i was stationed in Korea we would park on 2x4's to keep the tracks from freezing to the mud and have to crank them over every three to five hours to keep the batteries charged
Nothing like helping a friend and a Fellow neighbor, Always there to lend a hand you are A generous person
Hello Matt,I can recognize a champion,and no doubt in my mind ,you are a real one.Your videos are well made and super interesting for those who like that kind of stuff and this is my case.
Thank you ray!
fantastic video as always Matt , many have said it already ,my brother in law use to work clearing land for Manitoba Hydro back in the 70's to build Hydro transmission lines to bring to power into Southern Manitoba and had i believe it was a fleet of D8's they used to do the work and winches on them with full cabs with heaters, it was not uncommon fro the temps to be a constant -30 or more below, just shy of 1800 miles north of you, he told me they use to haul trees from the front as you are doing and it worked for awhile until the terrain like yours on the hillside gets steep and they were equipped with wider tracks for the snow conditions and soon found out there were more breakdowns and down time, and decided to tow from the drawbar rom that point onwards and in the end it saved a ton of time and less breakdowns and saved allot of money on fuel and was just that much easier to haul trees from the drawbar, and he said tracks coming off was one of the things that would happen to them also, just my 2 bits worth, look forward to the next video, YES , this is just about the best thing to watch on a Saturday morning with a fresh pot of coffee 👍 your camera has some kickass detail
Watched that being done by logging outfits near Flin Flon/Snow Lake using the drawbar. They would also let machines idle all night
and sometimes over a long weekend when it was -40c or more. They would put up tents to warm machines up if they wouldn't start if
they were shut down, seems they would burn diesel running them or thawing them all out, didn't matter to them.
Hey fellow manitobin.
I chuckled when he said it was cold and it was only - 11c
Cant imagine the effort it would have take to build the power lines to the northern power dams. There is alot of wilderness between the 2 locations.
There's something about the sound of those big old Cat diesels, love it. Another great video.
I applaud you folks who can work and live in that kind of weather. I live in Arizona, some people complain about the high summer heat here but you don't have to shovel heat, it doesn't rust your cars or freeze and break your water pipes., we don't have hardly any humidity or flies much either. Great channel Matt.
Man when you had that loader on the front tips of those tracks I was puckering!!!
hahaha I love doing that stuff, keeps the day interesting!
@@DieselCreek what name brand of pants/coveralls, overalls are you wearing?
@@GaHullbillyRanch walls brand. Little thick but warm
@@DieselCreek wanted to be a ballet danser all his life, and now here he is dansing on his toes😂
For this kind of job, should there be a counterweight on the back?
Im at about the 10:15 mark and came here to post the very same thing!!
I never get tired of watching you operate the 977.
I enjoy it! It’s something different
That cold, snow and ice really is a challenge for even the heavy dozers! I realize that the 977 is past her prime but she is still strong. This is just a reminder that nature usually has the upper hand in these struggles to change things to our liking.
I was watching the slack in that track thinking, "I hope he doesn't drop a track!". Been there, done that, got the tee shirt!!! I still have a mess of 6x6 blocking pushed several feet into the mud where I had to jack a much smaller crawler up so I could even get to the lower half of the track. Not fun, not at all! I was amazed that you drove it back on. Crawlers are a godsend, except when they are worn out, and anything I can afford is going to be very, very worn. Good job man!
Always a good Sat morning to wake up and watch someone else work😂. I think it will be a lot easier to pull those trees up the hill if you spin around and pull from the hitch, I know it seems counterintuitive to not be able to lift the load but just think of your old forklift safety triangle and where on that you’re attaching the chain. I do this all the time with my ASV and end up kicking myself for not just pulling from the back from the start.
Me 2 on the watching someone else work part. I immediately look for diesel creek, watch wes work, and junkyard digs every Saturday morning. It's a great way to spend a down day.
My hat is off to the young lady who braved that cold to work along side you guys. She reminded me of my wife in our early years.
Watching the wingnut on the air filter spin like a top in fast-mo is trippy.
Matt some rock guards on the bottom will help keep an old track from de railing.
Yep, thought about trying to find a set. Probably easier to find a better machine 😂
@@DieselCreek just make some yourself if it’s that hard to find them
Oh how I love the sound of a diesel engine under load. Nice video!
Hi from Minnesota! Absolutely love the sound of cold morning diesels! Love the videos, I look forward to them all. !!
Gaia's not a fan, but yeah.
Looking like you were arc welding that start silly-noid. Great start on a cold morning. Thank you for sharing. Worked in the NM gas fields with 16cyl submarine engines that vibrated you till you lost your breakfast. Love the sound.
Think about erosion. If you take out too many trees, the soils will slip down the slope, if you get a heavy soaker in the spring!
Don't waste your time. These guys can't comprehend. Sad. Next thing they will call u a liberal. Lol
Agreed on the erosion thing. Better to hire a few men with chainsaws and cut them down. Yeah, it costs money but, this leaves the roots intact to hold the soil. The CAT dozer can remove whatever got cut down.
Kudos to you and the crew there for sticking with it despite the cold.
That’s not cop when theirs ice that’s have to chisel off the lock that’s cold
you need to get a big heavy winch for the back of the machine , will add the extra weight and help the machine from tipping forward , the winch would be perfect to pull trees up the hill instead of driving down to get them
He has a semi with a PTO winch that could do that job.
Lmfao 😂 the big kitty been warming up for awhile to hilarious Matt 3:10 @Diesel Creek
Caterpillars plow through the soft forest floor, which is why we in Germany have gone back to using two draft horses. No riding horses, but the heavy horses that bring little to the rest. These pull the trunks one by one out of the forest without breaking the ground. On the way, the truck can then pick them up with the crane.
There are many forests in Germany. Half is in private hands. Harvested at most once per generation, 80 up to 100 years . Reforestation is much more important.
Matt, buddy... I am not a safety nazi, far from it... I believe in your acceptable risk policy. BUT, I also like your videos and would like to see a lot more of them. Spend some time in a commercial quarry or a big logging concern and you'll see their chain anchors are INSIDE the bucket. Put a big double strap D-ring deep in your bucket and a couple of weld-on hooks off to either side.
A) you can use shorter chains
B) shallower angles so you keep the weight off your nose wheels
C) much easier on your ground people to hook you up
D) if you paint everything and let it all wear in together, you can hide that you are OSHA compliant.
E) it won't affect the way your bucket works to move material
F) Most importantly, if the chain, rope, strap does break, you have the bucket between you and the flying chain, rope or strap
My neighbor (who still owns the family redwood logging concern) lost his older brother in 76 to a chain that whipped back over a bucket on a loader when they were working for his dad. That winter they moved all their anchors into their buckets and after hundreds of broken chains, not a single injury or punctured radiator.
I also noticed how if the chain broke it will perfectly take is head right off.
This is a fantastic comment! I'd love to watch a video of Matt doing this upgrade and demonstrating it.
What he said.
@@FishFind3000 That would be a nicer way to go than my neighbor's brother got.
That is a nice idea actually
Happy to hear the big picture financial weighing that has to be considered when people are likely to think “hey, you could get better traction if you….”. Yah, but the bank isn’t unlimited, and the reason I can get certain pieces of equipment is dependent on not blowing money on non-critical upgrades bc there is no end to improvements. Good on you for helping out a buddy on his steep hill project. While I am certain that the video doesn’t do justice to how steep it really is, I could see that it was quite steep
@39:50 that "ol' lumbs up button" ay lmao
Hey Matt, I just want to offer a thought on what you said about the 977 not being worth new undercarriage. While you are certainly correct about it being very expensive in relation to the resale value of the machine, I would urge you to consider the cost of a replacement machine. My wife keeps telling me I need a new truck but with a new 1/2 ton going for $40k and up, I could justify spending quite a bit on the truck I have, which is paid for. Anyway, I love your videos, please keep them coming.
good one, sounds like the old girl is protesting over hard work...lol..keep safe..
Bob, most girls do !
Congratulations on getting that Cat fixed and back up the hill. That was remarkable work done by you and your friends. Best wishes.
😂 its a Unicorn lmfao that was hilarious 21:07 @Diesel Creek
Omg that Cat is doing a nose Wheelie Pulling that Tree and Trunk Up thats pretty Sketchy definitely shows how steep that hill actually is vs what it looks like on camara to make a Heavy machine like that 977 cst to Tilt On the tracks like that noce work from the operator Great video Matt 12:20 @Diesel Creek
Always difficult for some reason to show on film how steep it is. BTW good to see you now have help from Brad, better to be two!
And a woman too I saw now, sorry woman and thanks for helping Matt too.
Don't know if if would help keep it running when it first turned over and fires, but we turn it back to preheat once it running. Nice job
If you’d have put “oh no, he might slide down the hill” and “if I can’t fix the dozer, I’ll have to abandon it and I’ll be ruined” drama into this story, you’d have duplicated a “Gold Rush” plot line. I’m glad you didn’t 😀
Exactly why I'm totally over Gold Rush. Just tell the story and enough with the fake drama. Well done Matt
I refuse to watch those shows because of that garbage. They assume we’re all idiots
@@DieselCreek Well, by their ratings, there's a lot of idiots around ! 🤣
@@marcryvon Oh yeah, stick in a few potty jokes and lewd remarks and they'll be packed in and droolin'.
...and I thought I was the only person who thinks GR has become a drama....
The 977 is probably my favorite piece you've got. Love hearing the scream of that engine when it's under a load. Reminds me of my uncle's D5 I operated when I worked for him when I was in high school.
Hi Matt something we do down the railway with our vintage Diesel engines is to use a hot air gun on the intake. Might be useful when your starting stuff at the workshop.
Old girl was feeling the cold tho once it fired up it run really well another class video Matt u put a lot of time into the editing of these videos keep up the good work your doing a great job
Glad you enjoyed it
Your filming and production are of a very high standard and I love the content - thanks for your hard work🙏
Howdyyawl from the land down under. It's always nice playing with big toys. When big toys break , the fix is big. You got lucky. Enjoy the day. Like the videos, the snow makes it more dangerous. It's nice to go home with all your bits intact. Be safe. C U next time.😊
Nice controlled Slide he is doing with that Backhoe great work Operator 29:28 @Diesel Creek
Awesome content again Matt. Love seeing the old Cat put to work.
Great way to spend some of Saturday afternoon over the pond watching your shenanigans. Keep the vids coming Matt !
That is really wanting to get those trees cleared. 12 degrees and snowing! Go get ‘em
🤪😵😖 YOU HAVE BROUGHT BACK A FEW 😖👎 memories that just DON'T need to recall!!! You will look back at the winter 21/22 with thoughts of "WHAT WAS I THINKING" as you sit by the nice warm wood stove 🤭🙏👌
You need to weld a 1 inch horizontal swivel triangle loop in that bucket for chain looping. 👌 THANKS FOR THE ADVENTURE INTO YOUR WORLD ( I do know how LUCKY you were to have that crawl back into that track 😱😱😱😱😱 Been there / done that ) 🤩😍😍😍😍😍
This is a good thing to wake up to on a Saturday morning! This machine reminds me of my fathers International Dresser 175C he used to own. Keep up the good videos, Matt!
You know there's a drawbar on the back of that Cat, right? When pulling from the drawbar, the bucket is a giant counterweight to keep the tracks in better ground contact.
He also has a bulldozer with a hydraulic winch
Where's the challenge in that then. LOL
Looked like he was having fun.
Best money shot on the internet: Matt's awesome, goofy grin when he gets something running!
I ran one of these MONSTERS for years , they can move mountains!! winter time sucks on a cold metal bulldozer , but get something under your feet so the metal doesnt suck the heat out of them and reverse the fans. it helps alot. not hard to do they are spring loaded
Matt please weld some D rings into the inside of your bucket so you don't have to strap the chain over your bucket. If that chain snaps as it's placed now it could kill you in an instant. If it's inside the bucket and it snaps you're likely just fine.
Your right on the money Skinny my thoughts exactly, a tragedy waiting to happen
Also think about using cable instead of chains as chokers and for pulling /lifting . My hats off to you for getting things done
You literally have no idea what you are talking about, I dought you've ever seen a chain snap. Chains hardly carry any kinetic energy because there is not give, unlike straps or cables..
@@VS-nb1rfcool story kid
Hey Matt !! Take 1 pad out of the tracks for now as that will give you more time to think about getting new tracks !! Have seen this done on a "OL"" D-8 dozer & worked out just fine till winter & then put it in the shop to be fixed !! Have a good week & Thanks again for the videos !!
Thanks for sharing your real life projects with your fans. Work safe and smart. You do know that track loaders and excavators have slick tracks so they can turn without ripping the tracks loose with a load in the bucket on flat ground. They also are useless in snow and ice because of not having grousers.
You would be way ahead of the game by getting some new aftermarket sprocket sections bolted on in place of what's there. It looks like one supplier has 2 sprockets for about $550 each. You might be able to find them used cheaper. I bought a sprocket from Tracks (n) Teeth a couple years ago and it worked on my old Komatsu D20 dozer. With sprocket teeth as worn and short as yours your tracks will continue to give you trouble. Also check to see if there is a lot of slop in the idler roller on the front. If it wobbles it will throw tracks like crazy. Ask me how I know. New sprockets will go a long way to letting you use the old girl with its worn out under carriage for years.
One thing about getting your shop done will be, when it is that cold out, you will wait till warmer weather to run your big equipment.
Not much good actually comes out of running your stuff when it is that cold out.
I see you are careful to run straight up and down the hill.
Had to help my tow truck buddies get a 977 off a body in a creek after he tried to turn around half way up a hill that was frozen ground. Steel grousers turn into ice skates. He got pinned under the ROPS when it turned over, and tossed him out.
That's a steep hill especially when you were going up then you could see it good thank you for sharing five stars mate
Sounds like she's running great! How long until she gets a winch out back? Great video Matt! 👍😁
As soon as a local scrapyard has one I'd say ! 😁
^^What @Flat Thunder said
Nice work. It sure is beautiful there. The sky is so blue and with the snow and trees it makes a great setting.
Thanks for taking us along Matt , stay safe and warm !!
11k views in 45 mins! Let that sink in matt, you make some great content!
i always look forward to saturday mornings diesel creek videos !!
You need a heated warehouse to park & store your heavy equiptment,so they are not out in the elements. Also love the smell of diesel smoke at anytime of the day!!
You can weld the sprockets and rollers to rebuild. Prob save a lot of money. Good winter project.
Love the creek shot starting off. Ain't it great to have to fix something to get you to fix something else to get out of a fix.
Loose tracks, worn sprockets, steep hillside and lots of maneuvering on difficult terrain in difficult conditions. You just knew there was going to be a track issue sooner or later. You were lucky this time Matt.
Definitely need better sprockets, maybe some rollers, too.
Hello
When I served in the Golan Heights 1980 - 81 as part of a cannon battalion when we had a problem of caterpillar tension that could not be fixed by adding grease to the tension piston, we removed one link from the caterpillar of the vessel ...
When I went to school in the 90s in Upstate NY for Heavy Equipment repair and operation. We would pull the dip stick and count to 10 if the oil did not move we would get a diesel heater and tarp to warm the engine up then crank it up. Also who ever is on camera did a great job nice and bright and clear..q
Every time you cold start that beast, I hear Peg cheering and Greta screaming!! And your middle name must be Murphy right?? Keep up the fantastic videos!!!
Thanks 👍
That thing would be great for land clearing with a root rake grapple.
Hey, if you are gonna work on steep slopes, put some seatbelts in. I put a set of Simpson 5 points into my Cat 257B since almost everything is on slopes. It actually helps with control, since you no longer have to “hold” on while working. One of the big dangers in a roll over is falling out and being crushed by the machine.
Well damn that cold start rew up its just music to my ears!
The best way I warm my diesel pickup is to literally just drive it right away. I can let it set there and idle for seemingly forever and it never really warms up. (2002 7.3 F350).. But I noticed that, if I just jump in it right away and drive it--- limp it around a little bit. Putting the engine under a load like that will warm it up 10x faster. So that's just me-- I never let them idle for long-- put a light load on her and she'll warm up so much faster.
Diesels don’t make much heat at idle. They pretty much just cool down. They say drive them easy till warm and this for just about any engine.
That looked like a lot of hard work.
Well, all I can say, how much horsepower are needed... All of them! That old cat still puts them out. Great content 👍
Company I worked for years ago had an OLD D9 and this was built before segmented sprockets and they were worn bad, loosened up the tracks and had a welder on each side and built them up, then did the front idlers, that old 9 worked for many years that way.
Great to see ya again!
HEY ! Good morning Matt and thumbs UP to you
Morning!
Matt you are definitely one hell of an operator bud, I couldn’t do what u do sir my hats off to you sir
Been so cold here in the North East Matt, that politicians have their hands in their own pockets. God job clearing.
Would have been nice to borrow Camarata’s little skidder to haul those trees up!
Long time subscriber Matt can’t wait to see new shop and other projects!
Throwing a steel track is never fun. I'm old: try doing low angle sweeping turns until or if you rebuild the entire undercarriage. It be slap wore out....
That's definitely a steep hill to be working on. It's definitely a challenge for you guys. But your getting it done. Awesome job so far. Keep up the hard work.
@3:20 I love it when those big diesels finally come to life!
Looks like the sprockets are a bit wore out.
Nothing welding reshaped rebars can't fix ! 😊
My wife says she doesn’t understand why I watch these long RUclips videos and not go fix my own equipment outside. I told her it’s a guy thing, and walked away. I’m pretty sure I lost that conversation, but that’s ok, because I have 37 minutes left.
I remember that white fluffy stuff and the cold. Don't miss it.
Great video. man that is to cold for me, when i was young i could do it, but not now. stay warm. it great to seen Mrs Diesel out there with you guy working along with you.
Might weld a couple chain hooks on each side back top of bucket if there is none. Or big link to poke chain thru for closed loop hookup. Looks like y’all was tossing chain over bucket and securing. Enjoyed
Needs a tie in inside the bucket for protection. Anything on top will allow the chain to hit that operator.
Did you ever think about pulling them up from the back of the 977? Like a skidder
It would have given him more traction since the bucket is the counterweight inside of a lever.
Just to add to Gregg below, you Always walk the track on! Take it from an Old Army Mech. Head! It only works in rev. if the front is off!
I would add some heavy wire/mesh to the roll cage for extra protection. She seems to be running great!!
Matt, isn't the removal of the trees on that ridge going to cause erosion of the bank? Keep the great vids coming! They're great!
It going to be re graded and have grass planted
Great point, I live in a very hilly and wet area and am a field engineer for the roads department. Any time you remove trees from a slope you should re plant native ground coverage(which can be as simple as throwing some seed around) to stabilize the soil if the slope isn't going to be used. A heavy rain can cause slope destabilization (mudslide e.t.c) in as little as a few minutes without proper cover.
@@brianblank9921 “I’m from the government and I’m here to help “ 🙄
He does have a vibrating compactor thingy. Maybe that can help for the time being. Unless it is to icey for it now.
@@trainnerd4350 pretty much!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I worked in the private sector for twenty years before the government coerced me in to coming to work for them so I have a different viewpoint(see: common sense) than your typical gubment pro fession al.
Great videos. Those drive sprockets look really worn. Are you planning on replacing them soon?
Starter...in cold metal shrinks and contacts might not get a connection. In Fairbanks, Alaska when it's minus 30 or more truck doors don't stay shut. And don't tighten lug nuts because when it's above freezing you won't get them off without a breaker bar. Good times in winter. Ha
Looks like you had a ball!
If a diesel fired pre-heater isn’t in the budget, toss a couple QD fittings on the coolant lines of the tractor and your truck.
Inlet and return jumper hoses, let the service truck warm up the tractor....
Wouldn’t your bulldozer with the winch be better for this?
As much as I love Classic Cat equipment, this is the perfect example of why they copied JCB with their 110 who first put the motor at the rear to use as a counterweight in the 70's - it makes perfect sense for the balance on the machine🤔👏👏🙂
Holy cow that cat was on her tippy toes at 12:31!!!
My first setting out job was a cold winter. We lit small fires under the engines. Cold air, diesel fumes, love it.
Matt did essentially that under the road grader dubbed Christine. She tried to run over him, so he might be gun-shy
Great video. Any idea why the track jumped off or does that just happen periodically on these older machines? Not enough tension maybe and then the conditions you are working in?
Worn out tracks, I made a hard turn and the track decided against it lol
@@DieselCreek Ah, that makes sense. Things to keep in mind I’m sure when you get to know your equipment.
I hope Caterpillar watch these although I guess not everyone there will be happy.
The engineers will say Look at the age and what it can still do.
The salesman will say We want to sell new machines, these guys make that difficult.
Great work Mat like watching you blokes in the snow over here we have super hard ground and dust and heat to contend with.
Matt, you did a great job clearing those trees.
You and the guys did a good job of getting the track back on your Dozer!
I look forward to seeing the next video of you clearing more trees with the Dozer.
Well done, Matt!