I have a buttkicker gamer 2 strapped to my playseat challenge, one of the best mods I've done so far. Together with simhub you can customize it so much. Changed my experience completely, I can only imagine what getting a rig like yours would be like. Keep up the good work mate!
If you have an Nvidia VGA card, next time you update your drivers select Custom, you can then deselect HD Audio to stop it installing the VGA audio and this will stop your soundcard options being messed up. :)
Karl, just got four of these for $100 on eBay. I love your content and value your objective opinions. Would appreciate a more in-depth video on installation and software setup when you have the time!
@@keithmorris604 unfortunately the item is no longer in stock or I would have 😔 I just searched the product name (BS-200i? Something like that) in eBay and that popped up. There were similar transducers up there for a comprable price.
Perfectly explained man, nice one Karl, i'm now into the full transducer effects, i'm now gonna be hooked on the idea of your setup, which is fantastic looking BTW! You don't waffle either, you just tell us what we want to know 'Sweet'! 👍😎
Karl keep an eye on the temperature of your shakers. After overheating or a lot of use they tend to fail. The design of the shaker is a large magnet suspended on the top and bottom by plastic spoked "wheels". What happens is one of the spokes will crack. You will know because the shaker will start to clunk. I fixed/upgraded a couple shakers by using thin carbon fiber plate to fabricate replacement spoked wheels. Just a FYI I have owned Dayton, Aura, and a couple brands they all have the same design and they have all eventually failed (my replacements have held up so far).
you answered a few questions i had also you seem to be the least boring on here as most of the other youtube car sim people are so dull make you fall asleep when your trying to gain knowledge but you have presence on camera and your direct knowledge and understanding of the products transfers easily for me i find it hard to concentrate on one subject too long but that's not a issue with you thanks keep it up buddy also damn bro you have so much 90's era stuff in back round i loved those Jamo back in the day and seperates stereo systems have few rare ones myself
Karl, I only follow this channel because I enjoy listening to your videos, I don't even own a Sim racer, I found ur channel from searching oculus qv1.. but keep it up, all compliments to you.
Just bought a Dayton transducer and will be installing to my rig this weekend. If it works well I may use 2nd channel to add 2nd one to my pedals. Can't wait!
Great video...can you comment on the amount of "noise" the setup produced when you used it? as far as any type of rattling or extra noise that would possibly disturb others around the rig.
@@KarlGosling so the lose objects is easy enough to take care of. The rig will be on a first floor and hardwood. I do have caster wheels attached to the rig (Simlab GT2). How would you recommend isolating the rig/transducers? Also awesome web videos BTW!!
Really enjoy your reviews, hoping you go into more depth about your tactile transducer video’s especially about how to wire everything up to the amps you’re using I feel this is an uncovered secret of sim racing that literally no one covers on any of the big “sim racing channels”. I personally try and help people out on Reddit almost every week asking about these and I’d rather link a video of someone like yourself, so please go into depth on the subject as I know that it will be a hit as they are game changing.
Karl, could you send a pic of the back of your receiver for this set up? I wanted to you an old receiver of mine, but I cannot get all my transducers to work properly. I have the 4 corners set up, but can only get one to work at a time.
I use one of these: www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=onkyo+tx+sr605&_sacat=0&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&siteid=3&campid=5338627301&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1
Hi Karl Regarding the amp you are using and have included in your description TX-SR605. Is this a good quality 7.1 amp? Do you know what watts it can supply 7 channels with?
Question, your using a normal amplifier 5.1 or 7.1 I guess, do you need a high pass filter since it's not a pure dedicated subwoofer amplifier? Or is simhub so good to just send low frequency to the soundcard and then to your amplifier?
Hi Karl, I know it's an old video but regarding you sound card numbering keeps getting higher. I've had this with vr headsets doing the same thing. Not sure the cause although I think it's from using/swapping to different usb ports probably but a fix is to go into device manager, show hidden devices and you should see greyed out lower numbered versions, remove these devices and the current one and restart PC. That should make the number go away. :)
I’m going to buy the amp you put link on , and when connecting amp to sound card is it 4x rca to 3.5 cables for 4 channels , and rca would plug in on amp on the 7.1 input . Or have I got wrong thanks
A stereo 3.5mm to RCA is two channel, so three of those gives you 6 channels which is what connects the sound card to amp... Front L/R, Rear L/R then Center/Sub.
Would you still recommend 4 like you have here? Was debating on a similar setup. A lot of people seem to have the opinion it shakes the whole rig in this config and you can’t really feel what is what
@karlgosling love your videos and enthusiasm and also watched your HF8/U-Skake6 vibrators v transducers and am converted. I am building a 737 sim and so can place transducers wherever I need an amp, and thinking 5 channels. What is the minimum wattage per channel so they work properly. Thanks in advance. Knotty
There's a link in the description for the transducers and sound card mate. 4x BS200i Multi channel amp USB sound card 6m of speakers wire 2x RCA to 3.5mm cables Sim Hub
Hi - I am thinking of replicating this setup. I currently run my sound from the HDMI of my video card to a 7.1 sound system. Could I keep that setup but still add a usb sound card to run the transducers?
Got it all setup! ...its awesome. My biggest tip...use the bluetooth connection to AMP which saves alot of cable clutter! now back to tuning...THANKS for all the info!
@@KarlGosling you know what...you maybe right. I was having a delay, but after restart it went away. I'm at point now where I need a USB hub for my rig...time to order more stuff! Thanks for the tip bud!
Do you find that there is still a delay when using USB? I have the Dayton BST-1 and seem to notice some delay. Also mine feel nice, but the noise sound like a dying hard drive thrying to write a lot of data when above 44hz. It isnt loud, just irritating. Is that just the sound these type of things make? @KarlGosling
I would really like to get something like this but not sure if the vibrations will be felt by my neighbors below. Also have a aluminum profile rig(p1x). Any clue?
Great video... I just installed 2 bass shakers under my GT Omega Art rig last week. 2 small amps running it for left and right effects. Set up for pc and xbox using UDP for Forza etc... Really impressed with it. Under £200 all in, official Butt Kicker 2 was £200+ and that's only 1!!
Apologies in advance for maybe a long question (and slight back story) - so i have the G293, wheels and shifter. Used to play dirt 2.0 LOADS with no issues, all of a sudden i loaded up one day and the wheel almost locked tight and in game now only the pedals worked and the wheel didnt affect the wheel in game. If i went to calibrate in game it would register be turning but it felt like i was having to force it round. I spoke to logitech support who 2 months ago told me it was a software issue, they was aware of it and it would fix in the next updates. A few updates later and no difference, now there saying its a game update that needs doing... hope you can help 😔😔😔😔 thanks i advance.
Could you make a video on how to connect it to a modern amplifier? I was looking to get a 7.1 amplifier to drive 4+2 bass shakers (4 wheels + seat + pedals). I guess it will be 6 channels in total. So I will need 3 audio cables going from my PC to the amplifier. Problem is that in some amplifiers (for example, Sony STR-DG720) there are 7 outputs but only 2 analog inputs. So it's non-trivial how to make it work. Some old amplifiers (for example, Pioneer VSX-1017AV-S) have not only 7 outputs but even "multichanel in" so you can connect up to 8 different "channels". So i think some guide is very welcome!
So in that config you wouldn't be able to have all 4 transducers independent, only Front and Rear or Left and Right yeah? Could you set it up in SimHub to have all 4 independent by using 4 channels on that soundcard? Say you hit the car in front of you with the front left side of your car, could you set it up vibrate only the front left transducer but also have the rear two vibrate when you do a burnout?
@@KarlGosling Oh? How have you got them independent with only two RCA cables plugged into the soundcard? I thought that would force two transducers to be linked, like 2+2.
Not sure to understand how these work, seperately like a 4 speaker system, with a Mono Amplifier and a soundcard that seems (like all the old c-media chips/driver usb soundcards) to have problems with 5.1 output, they work fine in stereo, but then the effects are either front and/or back, or else left and/or right...
@@KarlGosling Oh thanks, I thought you used a Reckhorn bass amp. because they seem to be mono. I would use 6 transducers, one under the seat, and one under de pedals. Would any amp 5.1 do, or do they need special parameters to cut frequencies? Instead of another USB soundcard, I have penty of unused soundcards installed on Windows 11 by the ndvidia outputs to my triple screens I wonder if I may use the optical output from one of my triple screens to attach to an amplifier?
Windows loses track of USB sound card associations during enumerations if those USB devices lack unique serial numbers. USB enumerations will occur e.g. when devices are replugged or drivers change.
Yes, that is one of the reasons why I canceled the Win10 updates, and permanently, now I also update the graphics drivers less frequently, only after 4 or 6 months, the updates give more problems than solutions. ..
Be warned. Once you use it you won't be able to race without it. I use 1 buttkicker gamer under the seat. When it comes to rumble strips your brain tricks your body as to which side of the rig is vibrating
@@christianlewer-greenlight- I tried the Simhub. Spent hours setting up the few effects I wanted and tuning the frequencies and such. I ended up using it from the game sound. Just feels more natural to me. Although if I had multiple shakers I would definitely use Simhub
@@christopherlees3684 really? When I don't use simhub I just get random heavy bass rumble. With Simhub I actually feel the difference when I roll onto the grass from the tarmac
Hi Karl, quick question regarding SimHub and Dirt Rally 2. I know for the transducers to work you need to load the game through SimHub. Which for project cars 2 in vr which I play the most works fine, however when loading Dirt Rally 2 through SimHub it loads it in non vr mode. Do you know how to fix this? As I’m not sure I’m getting al the benefits of SimHub when having to load dirt rally 2 vr through steam
@@KarlGosling ah ok cool. I thought it needed to be loaded using SimHub for it to work it’s magic. Cheers, would you say the difference is quite drastic going from just a BK gamer 2 to 4 of these transducers then? As I’m actually not that impressed with the BK, I have it attached to my Art cockpit and to get any noticeable vibration out of it, it’s rattling around like mad and far too noisy to have on really
NLR sells his stuff with the "ecosystem" mentality, which I call "protectionism", or "anti-standard" mentality, which will force you to stay with their products, unless you take the wise decision to sell it to another newborn ignorant (which I was) in the simracing environnment.
@@tomsawyer2112 totally agree and to be fair it's a decent package all the way up to motion. I wish I had more flexibility from NLR. Reminds me of the apple and Android battle.
@@rickyhaskins1165 a decent package, maybe, but way overpriced ... and very very unreliable, I experienced and read about broken moving parts all the time, and their support staff in some regions can't cope with the increasing problems. Just check out the latest review from Boost Media for the Motion plus.
Awesome video Karl! I’ve been thinking about getting a couple of these (one for the seat and another for the pedals) and putting it on my Sfx-100 motion rig. Do you think it would add more immersion than what I’m already getting? In other words, would it be worth adding it?
Excellent video, I don't think I could get away with anything like this, my man-cave is up in the attic and the additional vibrations would not be tolerated by 'She who must be obeyed' 😂 your setup is awesome, I'm very envious 😍 I was wondering, what kind of extra draw electric wise, all this puts on your wiring? Plugs, extensions? How have you managed all that? That might make an interesting video in its self 😉
Karl - how would you compare this setup to the Shakekit? Shakekit has the advantage in simplicity of setup, but how would you compare the driving experience between the two? Thanks!
Great video Karl, been wanting to do this for a while now and tempted to go ahead! This may be a dumb question but if you only have a single 4 channel amplifier how would you go about getting the 4 transducers plus the two speakers to work? In guessing you can't.. so would it be possible to connect active speakers straight from the usb soundcard for the general audio to then bypass the amp? Thanks so much
You can plug in the speakers using a USB adapter, and search up how to use 2 audio outputs on Windows 10. It's super easy. I have 2 buttkickers connected to one amp and the amp is connected to my laptop with the aux port. My headphones are connected with an aux to USB adapter
Your PC already has some form of sound I'm guessing (you're not playing games in silence?! lol) so adding a USB sound card and 4 channel amp is purely for the tactile setup mate.
@@KarlGosling Thanks Karl, I wasn't sure whether windows would only allow audio 1 audio output. When I use headphones for example I have to select headphones from the audio control panel, when I use my Quest 2 I have to switch it to the Oculus output.. I didn't realise you could select two at once
I have a buttkicker gamer 2 strapped to my playseat challenge, one of the best mods I've done so far. Together with simhub you can customize it so much. Changed my experience completely, I can only imagine what getting a rig like yours would be like. Keep up the good work mate!
If you have an Nvidia VGA card, next time you update your drivers select Custom, you can then deselect HD Audio to stop it installing the VGA audio and this will stop your soundcard options being messed up. :)
Thanks for this!
I’ve also found it helpful to export your shaker channel settings and profile to quickly import if things “reset”.
Karl, just got four of these for $100 on eBay. I love your content and value your objective opinions. Would appreciate a more in-depth video on installation and software setup when you have the time!
Thats a great deal mate! :)
AJ put the link up i want these
@@keithmorris604 unfortunately the item is no longer in stock or I would have 😔
I just searched the product name (BS-200i? Something like that) in eBay and that popped up. There were similar transducers up there for a comprable price.
By far my favorite effects are gear shift and rumble strips
Perfectly explained man, nice one Karl, i'm now into the full transducer effects, i'm now gonna be hooked on the idea of your setup, which is fantastic looking BTW! You don't waffle either, you just tell us what we want to know 'Sweet'! 👍😎
O nice I talked about a few different options of these on my channel. The butt kickers and the Dayton audio ones and how to hook them up!! Nice video
Link?
@@canadian2fur532 it’s on my RUclips page U will see it
That's one hell of a man cave you've got there Karl! Awesome!
Thanks Dan :)
Karl keep an eye on the temperature of your shakers. After overheating or a lot of use they tend to fail. The design of the shaker is a large magnet suspended on the top and bottom by plastic spoked "wheels". What happens is one of the spokes will crack. You will know because the shaker will start to clunk. I fixed/upgraded a couple shakers by using thin carbon fiber plate to fabricate replacement spoked wheels. Just a FYI I have owned Dayton, Aura, and a couple brands they all have the same design and they have all eventually failed (my replacements have held up so far).
Cheers mate good to know! These are a couple of years old now and still going strong so far.
@@KarlGosling Maybe I run mine too hard!
you answered a few questions i had also you seem to be the least boring on here as most of the other youtube car sim people are so dull make you fall asleep when your trying to gain knowledge but you have presence on camera and your direct knowledge and understanding of the products transfers easily for me i find it hard to concentrate on one subject too long but that's not a issue with you thanks keep it up buddy also damn bro you have so much 90's era stuff in back round i loved those Jamo back in the day and seperates stereo systems have few rare ones myself
Thanks very much mate!
Yeah I love my retro stuff!
Mate, awesome video as always, but i am here to comment because that cushion on your couch just brought the old PF days flooding back! 😂
Oh the poo emoji cushion! lol Yes!
Karl, I only follow this channel because I enjoy listening to your videos, I don't even own a Sim racer, I found ur channel from searching oculus qv1.. but keep it up, all compliments to you.
I appreciate that mate thank you!
Just bought a Dayton transducer and will be installing to my rig this weekend. If it works well I may use 2nd channel to add 2nd one to my pedals. Can't wait!
Great video...can you comment on the amount of "noise" the setup produced when you used it? as far as any type of rattling or extra noise that would possibly disturb others around the rig.
It will rattle your rig if you have loose objects and it will vibrate the floor if it's not isolated or concrete.
@@KarlGosling so the lose objects is easy enough to take care of. The rig will be on a first floor and hardwood. I do have caster wheels attached to the rig (Simlab GT2). How would you recommend isolating the rig/transducers? Also awesome web videos BTW!!
Really enjoy your reviews, hoping you go into more depth about your tactile transducer video’s especially about how to wire everything up to the amps you’re using I feel this is an uncovered secret of sim racing that literally no one covers on any of the big “sim racing channels”. I personally try and help people out on Reddit almost every week asking about these and I’d rather link a video of someone like yourself, so please go into depth on the subject as I know that it will be a hit as they are game changing.
I'll see if I can do a concise step by step mate.
Just wanted to let you know that I love your videos! Keep it up, mate!
Thanks mate!
Its a lot of work to set it up and tweak but damn it helps a lot to make it feel more "real".
Definitely!
Do you have any sort of Low and High Pass Filters set on either your Amp or in SimHub?
It's all done in Sim Hub mate, you choose what frequency each effect is so no HPF or LPF in the traditional sense is needed.
@@KarlGosling Thanks mate, You're the best!
Karl, could you send a pic of the back of your receiver for this set up? I wanted to you an old receiver of mine, but I cannot get all my transducers to work properly. I have the 4 corners set up, but can only get one to work at a time.
I don't run this setup anymore mate sorry.
what amplifier do you recommend karl👍🏿
I use one of these:
www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=onkyo+tx+sr605&_sacat=0&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&siteid=3&campid=5338627301&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1
Hi Karl
Regarding the amp you are using and have included in your description TX-SR605.
Is this a good quality 7.1 amp? Do you know what watts it can supply 7 channels with?
Question, your using a normal amplifier 5.1 or 7.1 I guess, do you need a high pass filter since it's not a pure dedicated subwoofer amplifier? Or is simhub so good to just send low frequency to the soundcard and then to your amplifier?
Love the vids Karl convinced me to give a couple of these a go 👍🏻
Hi Karl, I know it's an old video but regarding you sound card numbering keeps getting higher. I've had this with vr headsets doing the same thing. Not sure the cause although I think it's from using/swapping to different usb ports probably but a fix is to go into device manager, show hidden devices and you should see greyed out lower numbered versions, remove these devices and the current one and restart PC. That should make the number go away. :)
Yeah not a bad shout at all mate!
I’m going to buy the amp you put link on , and when connecting amp to sound card is it 4x rca to 3.5 cables for 4 channels , and rca would plug in on amp on the 7.1 input . Or have I got wrong thanks
A stereo 3.5mm to RCA is two channel, so three of those gives you 6 channels which is what connects the sound card to amp... Front L/R, Rear L/R then Center/Sub.
@@KarlGosling thanks I thought so , so will connect that way , Thanks again for your help and great channel you do
Would you still recommend 4 like you have here? Was debating on a similar setup. A lot of people seem to have the opinion it shakes the whole rig in this config and you can’t really feel what is what
Yes 100% mate.
That just sounds like a poorly setup and tuned system, it takes a fair bit of time and understanding to get it all working well.
@karlgosling love your videos and enthusiasm and also watched your HF8/U-Skake6 vibrators v transducers and am converted. I am building a 737 sim and so can place transducers wherever I need an amp, and thinking 5 channels. What is the minimum wattage per channel so they work properly. Thanks in advance. Knotty
50W RMS per channel will be plenty mate.
another great vid, do you need an external amp to drive the transducers and could you use motherboard built in or PCI soundcard as opposed to USB?
You must have an amp yes, the transducers are not active.
Yes you sure can if it isn't already being used as your main sound output.
great vids karl, where do i get these transducers from , any chance you can put a list on here what i need thanks
There's a link in the description for the transducers and sound card mate.
4x BS200i
Multi channel amp
USB sound card
6m of speakers wire
2x RCA to 3.5mm cables
Sim Hub
Hi - I am thinking of replicating this setup. I currently run my sound from the HDMI of my video card to a 7.1 sound system. Could I keep that setup but still add a usb sound card to run the transducers?
Yes mate, I ran a separate USB sound card just for tactile use.
Got it all setup! ...its awesome. My biggest tip...use the bluetooth connection to AMP which saves alot of cable clutter! now back to tuning...THANKS for all the info!
I wouldn't use BT mate, that adds a massive delay to the feedback! Anything from 200ms to 500ms using SBC, you want it to be instant.
@@KarlGosling you know what...you maybe right. I was having a delay, but after restart it went away. I'm at point now where I need a USB hub for my rig...time to order more stuff! Thanks for the tip bud!
Do you find that there is still a delay when using USB? I have the Dayton BST-1 and seem to notice some delay. Also mine feel nice, but the noise sound like a dying hard drive thrying to write a lot of data when above 44hz. It isnt loud, just irritating. Is that just the sound these type of things make? @KarlGosling
I would really like to get something like this but not sure if the vibrations will be felt by my neighbors below. Also have a aluminum profile rig(p1x). Any clue?
Use the rubber isolators and you'll be fine.
Great video... I just installed 2 bass shakers under my GT Omega Art rig last week. 2 small amps running it for left and right effects. Set up for pc and xbox using UDP for Forza etc... Really impressed with it. Under £200 all in, official Butt Kicker 2 was £200+ and that's only 1!!
Yeah the BK's are way over priced IMO mate.
Apologies in advance for maybe a long question (and slight back story) - so i have the G293, wheels and shifter. Used to play dirt 2.0 LOADS with no issues, all of a sudden i loaded up one day and the wheel almost locked tight and in game now only the pedals worked and the wheel didnt affect the wheel in game. If i went to calibrate in game it would register be turning but it felt like i was having to force it round. I spoke to logitech support who 2 months ago told me it was a software issue, they was aware of it and it would fix in the next updates. A few updates later and no difference, now there saying its a game update that needs doing... hope you can help 😔😔😔😔 thanks i advance.
Sorry mate not something I've experienced or can help with :(
If a game update has broken something then thats what needs putting right.
Could you make a video on how to connect it to a modern amplifier? I was looking to get a 7.1 amplifier to drive 4+2 bass shakers (4 wheels + seat + pedals). I guess it will be 6 channels in total. So I will need 3 audio cables going from my PC to the amplifier. Problem is that in some amplifiers (for example, Sony STR-DG720) there are 7 outputs but only 2 analog inputs. So it's non-trivial how to make it work. Some old amplifiers (for example, Pioneer VSX-1017AV-S) have not only 7 outputs but even "multichanel in" so you can connect up to 8 different "channels". So i think some guide is very welcome!
Do u have a optical input on your amplifier?
What’s the model number of that mini keyboard you have on your rig I want to buy one
So in that config you wouldn't be able to have all 4 transducers independent, only Front and Rear or Left and Right yeah? Could you set it up in SimHub to have all 4 independent by using 4 channels on that soundcard? Say you hit the car in front of you with the front left side of your car, could you set it up vibrate only the front left transducer but also have the rear two vibrate when you do a burnout?
No they are all all independent mate, one for each wheels individual telemetry.
@@KarlGosling Oh? How have you got them independent with only two RCA cables plugged into the soundcard? I thought that would force two transducers to be linked, like 2+2.
Not sure to understand how these work,
seperately like a 4 speaker system,
with a Mono Amplifier and a soundcard that seems
(like all the old c-media chips/driver usb soundcards)
to have problems with 5.1 output, they work fine in stereo,
but then the effects are either front and/or back, or else left and/or right...
You need a 5.1 sound card and a 5.1 amp, not a mono amp... this actually gives you 6 channels but I only ran 4.
@@KarlGosling Oh thanks, I thought you used a Reckhorn bass amp. because they seem to be mono.
I would use 6 transducers, one under the seat, and one under de pedals.
Would any amp 5.1 do, or do they need special parameters to cut frequencies?
Instead of another USB soundcard, I have penty of unused soundcards installed on Windows 11 by the ndvidia outputs to my triple screens
I wonder if I may use the optical output from one of my triple screens to attach to an amplifier?
Windows loses track of USB sound card associations during enumerations if those USB devices lack unique serial numbers.
USB enumerations will occur e.g. when devices are replugged or drivers change.
Yes, that is one of the reasons why I canceled the Win10 updates, and permanently, now I also update the graphics drivers less frequently, only after 4 or 6 months, the updates give more problems than solutions. ..
Can you make a tutorial for console set up using bass shakers. Thank you!
I don't have any consoles mate sorry.
Sweet! Just set up 3 channels on my rig!
Nice!!
Great content!!
Love your rig man!!
Thanks mate!
Be warned. Once you use it you won't be able to race without it. I use 1 buttkicker gamer under the seat. When it comes to rumble strips your brain tricks your body as to which side of the rig is vibrating
I have to agree with you, plus the Simhub software makes all the difference
@@christianlewer-greenlight- I tried the Simhub. Spent hours setting up the few effects I wanted and tuning the frequencies and such. I ended up using it from the game sound. Just feels more natural to me. Although if I had multiple shakers I would definitely use Simhub
It does hey. Best thing I have bought and can't do without it. They bring the game to life .
@@christopherlees3684 really? When I don't use simhub I just get random heavy bass rumble. With Simhub I actually feel the difference when I roll onto the grass from the tarmac
ive set up my transducers but i’ve got sound coming through them is there a way to just have them vibrate, so i can use my headphones thanks 👍🏿
You need to run them using Sim Hub not for playing sound.
Hi Karl, quick question regarding SimHub and Dirt Rally 2. I know for the transducers to work you need to load the game through SimHub. Which for project cars 2 in vr which I play the most works fine, however when loading Dirt Rally 2 through SimHub it loads it in non vr mode. Do you know how to fix this? As I’m not sure I’m getting al the benefits of SimHub when having to load dirt rally 2 vr through steam
I just load it from Steam with Sim Hub running in the background mate.
@@KarlGosling ah ok cool. I thought it needed to be loaded using SimHub for it to work it’s magic. Cheers, would you say the difference is quite drastic going from just a BK gamer 2 to 4 of these transducers then? As I’m actually not that impressed with the BK, I have it attached to my Art cockpit and to get any noticeable vibration out of it, it’s rattling around like mad and far too noisy to have on really
@@KarlGosling is there any chance you can do a video somehow of your 4 setup working in game so I can hear how loud they are? Cheers
Four corner transducers is way better than one BK.
Hmm you can't really hear them mate, they just vibrate the rig... And the room! Lol
Do you have A/C in your SimRig? That's Next Level!!!!
hi karl,what sound card do i need to get
Links in description mate.
good video, do you have a link to the amp and video card?
Sound card in description but you can find any multichannel amp you like.
@@KarlGosling thank you
My only complaint about my rig, is that I got a next level gt and adding stuff like this always seems like an up hill battle. First 🌎 problems I know.
NLR sells his stuff with the "ecosystem" mentality,
which I call "protectionism", or "anti-standard" mentality,
which will force you to stay with their products,
unless you take the wise decision to sell it to another newborn ignorant (which I was) in the simracing environnment.
@@tomsawyer2112 totally agree and to be fair it's a decent package all the way up to motion. I wish I had more flexibility from NLR. Reminds me of the apple and Android battle.
@@rickyhaskins1165 a decent package, maybe, but way overpriced ... and very very unreliable, I experienced and read about broken moving parts all the time, and their support staff in some regions can't cope with the increasing problems. Just check out the latest review from Boost Media for the Motion plus.
Awesome video Karl! I’ve been thinking about getting a couple of these (one for the seat and another for the pedals) and putting it on my Sfx-100 motion rig. Do you think it would add more immersion than what I’m already getting? In other words, would it be worth adding it?
100% mate, it adds far more than motion does IME.
@@KarlGosling awesome! Thanks! That’s the answer I was hoping for. Time to order it up 😁
Love the poo on the couch!
Thank you
You're welcome
can you do a video on quest 2 on window 11 becz oculus adb driver do not show the install so can I do it deferent way
I'm not running W11 and won't be for a while yet.
@@KarlGosling ok thank you
Excellent video, I don't think I could get away with anything like this, my man-cave is up in the attic and the additional vibrations would not be tolerated by 'She who must be obeyed' 😂 your setup is awesome, I'm very envious 😍 I was wondering, what kind of extra draw electric wise, all this puts on your wiring? Plugs, extensions? How have you managed all that? That might make an interesting video in its self 😉
I'm lucky my GF is into gaming too! :D
Everything bar the wheel base is very low current so just a load of 4 way extensions is all thats needed.
Karl - how would you compare this setup to the Shakekit? Shakekit has the advantage in simplicity of setup, but how would you compare the driving experience between the two? Thanks!
This feels better but is obviously much more complicated to setup and potentially more expensive too.
can something like this work on console?
Not easily no mate.
Title gave me seizures.
What sort of power do u need the amp to have? 400w 5.1 amp for the 4 bs200? (100w per channel)?
50w RMS per channel is fine for these assuming it's a decent brand and not some ebay/amazon cheapo amp.
@@KarlGosling cheers Karl
Great video Karl, been wanting to do this for a while now and tempted to go ahead! This may be a dumb question but if you only have a single 4 channel amplifier how would you go about getting the 4 transducers plus the two speakers to work? In guessing you can't.. so would it be possible to connect active speakers straight from the usb soundcard for the general audio to then bypass the amp? Thanks so much
You can plug in the speakers using a USB adapter, and search up how to use 2 audio outputs on Windows 10. It's super easy. I have 2 buttkickers connected to one amp and the amp is connected to my laptop with the aux port. My headphones are connected with an aux to USB adapter
@@donniel7758 thanks very much!
Your PC already has some form of sound I'm guessing (you're not playing games in silence?! lol) so adding a USB sound card and 4 channel amp is purely for the tactile setup mate.
@@KarlGosling Thanks Karl, I wasn't sure whether windows would only allow audio 1 audio output. When I use headphones for example I have to select headphones from the audio control panel, when I use my Quest 2 I have to switch it to the Oculus output.. I didn't realise you could select two at once