Firmino also needs to be on this list. People laugh at the concept of 'defensive striker', but in Gegenpressing which demands the team to win the ball back as high as possible, Firmino is possibly the best CF that you could have.
It also makes opposing teams predictable. They all toss the ball into the channel/behind Trent or try to get their winger 1v1 with him. Robbo is having a nice time not getting targetted (as much as I love him, he's not a defence-first FB either).
Depends on situation and team. If taa played at Burnley, do you think he's as good of RB. On Liverpool is lack of defensive ability can be mitigated. At Burnley, taa would have to do more defensively and in that situation taa ain't as good of RB as one would think unless you have a great manager who can figure out how to mitigate that
Bro, how about a video on the magnificent career of Angel Di Maria? He was crucial in Real Madrid winning La Decima and Argentina winning international trophies. He was overshadowed by the two footballing anomalies (Messi and Ronaldo). But those of us who watched him know what a game changing player he was.
@@theflashgordon193 He just has a terrible percentage, I think he was better than 3 keepers last season, one of which was Mark Travers, who conceded 9 to liverpool in one of his only games
There are people who belive the Earth is flat, or life events are influenced by position of planetary bodies. Everyone else can a) see his poor positioning and shotstopping, and b) look at the stats/models, which confirm the eye test. If anything, Ederson looks better than he actually is. His numbers really are shocking. A CB or CM can cover for Trent A-A, you can't cover for your keeper without getting a red card.
A good coach maximizes a player's strength and minimizes a player's weakness, but sometimes that player clashes with that coach's philosophy. A dilemma we all see nowadays... And it explains a part why coaches use 'bad' players in my opinion, the players suit the philosophy.
@@LiftandCoa he is much more supposed to be a playmaker than a defender anyway, just like Pirlo and Frenkie de Jong, those two are Defensive Midfielder yet they are shit defensively that they need someone to cover their defensive weakness like Gattuso (for Pirlo) and Schone (for de Jong)
our front three of mane firmino and salah a couple of years ago i feel all fit within a similar bracket, the biggest strengths of each player fell outside of what was typically expected from their positions, firmino particularly was criticised at times like this whenever he was having a rough patch infront of goal
Now, GKs aee divided into two types: 1. GKs who are great with their feet but cant save shots (Ederson, Raya, Ramsdale, Onana...) 2. GKs who are great at shot stopping but cant distribute (Courtois, Vicario, De gea, Pope...) There are very few GKs who can do both, thats currently Alisson amd Neuer. I love the fact that u brought this up, great vid
Allison is terrible at passing makes way more errors than Ederson.... Recently Edison has been comming up with big saves more often a definite improvement
@@abdotaher9109 You don`t get to start ahead Benzema for many years in the France side, if you`re an average player. while Benzema is undoubtedly the more talented all around player, what Giroud is good at, being a target man and using his physicality, are things Benzema are worse at then Giroud, and Giroud is also a great big game player, he shows up consistently when France needs him to.
One of the solutions to the Trent issue, from the England team perspective, is to play him either out of position as a defensive midfielder or (less likely) as an inverted right back. He's spoken about trying midfield for England before, and that he probably prefers that position when playing internationally, at least. In fact in call-up team sheets he is more often referred to as a midfielder than a defender. That being said, he has played both roles for England so his versatility as a Euro squad choice can't really be overstated.
Really really interesting piece .......... Something I learnt from this video is sometimes you just have to accept your weak points and focus heavily on your strengths
Trent’s defensive ability is pretty underrated. I know he isn’t the best at defending but, he’s not bad either. It’s just that he is so good up the field and leaves so much room behind him which makes teams create more chances on his side
No it isn't his defensive IQ is as good as a snail. And is always going to be a liability because of it. He is great offensively but against a le who is a 6/10 or above he can't defend them.
@@galaxyknight7309that’s just nonsense! If you actually look at his stats for the last 5-6 years his defensive numbers are mostly on par with the leagues other full backs! The amount of times I’ve seen other high class full backs make mistakes that is never mentioned in the same way TAA is unbelievable yet it’s never mentioned 🤦 Games where he has dominated with regards to his defensive role is literally ignored, out of ALL the players on the pitch for example, he had the best defensive stats in the whole game against Man City, yet, after the game, people nonsensically went on about Doku and his ‘successful’ dribbles simply cause he played LW and TAA is RB when in fact the ONLY attacking move he created from his dribbling was against Mac Alister that led to a shot going wide Give us stats instead of you nonsensically rambling on bud Let me ask, if he is THAT bad, every team that fails to capitalise on him being the worst defender in the whole universe actually means they’ve failed, he is that bad surely if teams don’t get a goal from his lack of defensive ability means that they’ve done a worse job at attacking right? So that means their attackers are worse than TAA? 😂 Dear god, what utter shite people like you talk
@@Vegan_Photographs First of all the video just proved that defensively he is below above Secondly there mistakes are more forgivable because there are better at defending but yes it should be covered the same way I agree because I mistake is a mistake but I understand why sometimes it isn't to the same extent but it is still covered for the most part. I do agree he was good against man city and the criticism was unnecessary The video proves he's bad defensively I don't need too. Don't ever call me bud I understand your passionate and want to defend Trent because you think I'm wrong but have some respect. And lastly teams have capitalized on him. In 1v1 situations he almost always beaten and just because they don't score or win doesn't mean they didn't take advantage of his defensive flaws. That last point respectfully was pathetic. Lastly again have some respect I understand this is the Internet but if you won't talk to me like this in rela life don't say it online.
Ederson has been a great shot stopper for the last year and a half, plus he's still the best with his feet. The criticism for him seems a couple years late. Previously, I would've agreed
His shot stopping has definitely improved. But whenever city is caught lacking (which they do a lot these days) he'll concede. something like De Gea. Good but still concedes a lot.
Darwin is a very similar case. We all know about his finishing and run timing being very subpar, but he's still been involved in over 30 goals this season. His ridiculous pace, oppressive presence, playmaking and chance creation offset the lack of composure in front of the net.
its not a similar case lmao we only notice darwins playmaking bc its one of the few things he does right. salah shouldve had like 20+ assists this season if not for darwin. and darwin isnt a false 9 hes supposed to be an actual striker
Every player has a weakness or gap in their game. It's good coaching to combine a squad that covers for each others weaknesses while simultaneously boosting their strengths
Wow. Well done. One of the best analyses I've watched and listened to. I'm an Arsenal fan and it's a club culture for our strikers to be involved in the build up play and should be ready to change position inside a game: Kanu, Anelka, Reyes, Henry, Walcott, Van Persie, Giroud, Babtista, Carlos Vela etc. The list is plenty actually. But what those players/strikers listed above had that time were midfielders, whether attacking or defensive (Gilberto, Edu, Arteta, Vieira, Rosicky, Dennis Bergkamp (he was in midfield before he was moved forward to partner Thierry Henry) who were actively scoring goals. To illustrate it better. Henry was not replaced immediately after his transfer to Barca and Arsenals' input of goals didn't dropped significantly. Same with Van Versie's departure (Giroud and Podolski didn't hit the ground running immediately, But Arsenal never lack goals. Our issue has always been defence. Arsenal is getting there. That's how I rate my manager: Arteta. All his players are scoring goals. That's a threat to other teams. Thank you for the upload 🙏🏾
One could equally argue the problem is the lack of goals. I.e., Arsenal don't score enough goals to compensate for the defence. Games are won by goal difference. Attack and defence are not more important than each other, beyond saying you can't win without scoring at least once. In the 2019/20, 2020/21, 2021/22 seasons, Arsenal scored 56-61 goals in the league. Was the problem the defence? Same deal for 1992/3 and the following three seasons. OK in 1994/95 the problem was also the defence.
Harry Maguire deserves to be here : - He created the false center back - He kick Pogba on his head , strike down his fellow center backs defenders , got on the way of CR7 header , and he gets away with all of it - He also have an insane passing to the opposition - He is the #1 enemy of David De Gea
I understand Jesus's link up play is excellent, but his finishing is so poor that it's a case of the ends not justifying the means. At City, Pep played midfielders, wingers and even Zinchenko up front ahead of Jesus despite him being the only recognised striker in the squad, before he was deemed surplus to requirements and sold. At Arsenal last season, the team's record with Jesus was 2 points per game while their record without him was 2.06. What makes this worse is that in those games without him, Arsenal were playing Nketiah, a bang average striker, and actually had a better record. The man simply isn't good enough to start for a top team.
Ouch. That's good info right there, and an extremely compelling argument by using Nketiah as the comparison. Being that after the Fulham game I've essentially given up on Nketiah, this is all the more reason to stick Havertz up top. I honestly don't know why Arteta is fighting it. The answer is right in front of you Mikel...You have a BFG on the squad that's a freaking perfect answer for the position. His finishing won't be any worse than Jesus, and considering all Saka and Martinelli are doing is crossing it in...to 5 foot nothing Jesus.... Ugh. Mikel. Put the square piece in the square hole. It's not that hard.
If you don’t like Jesus you don’t like Firmino either. The difference between the two is that Liverpool has a better attacking dynamics than Arsenal current has, with more creative output (Robert and Trent) and prolific wingers. Arsenal doesn’t have any of these. In fact their dynamic is poor between the wingers and the 8s, which is why they are not scoring. Pointing finger at Jesus is asking the wrong question, and it has nothing to do with whether he can play in a top team or not, because he certainly can.
Perfect, I've Been Saying This For The Past Decade. Guardiola Took Bad / Average Players And Made Them Into Stars, Individually They Are Not Great Outside Of Guardiola's System. Xavi Wouldn't Do Well In A 2005 AC Milan Midfield (Seedorf, Pirlo, Kaka), He Would Be Just Another Player. Guardiola Killed The Skillful 9 / 10 Like Ronaldinho, Eto, Toure and Ibrahimovic. Yes More Goals Are Being Scored But Players Are Becoming Less Skillfull. The Only Position That Hasn’t Changed In Modern Football Is The Winger (Messi, C.Ronaldo, Neymar, Mane, Salah, Sane). They Are The Most Technical. This Video Perfectly Summarizes What I Have Been Feeling In The Last 10 Years.
This is so untrue. At least at Manchester City and Bayern, Guardiola took absolutely elite players who were, on the whole, the most talented squad of individuals in their respective leagues and basically performed as you would expect when you have the best squad in the league - by winning it consistently. In fact, I would argue he underperformed by not winning the Champions League more often, since his Bayern and City squads were more than talented enough to do so. You can't tell me that players like De Bruyne (who broke the Bundesliga single season assist record at the time before joining Man City) or Haaland (who was scoring an outrageous ~1 goal per game at all of his professional teams before City) are "bad / average players." Same thing with guys like Lewandowski (who broke the Bundesliga single season scoring record), Müller (who now has the Bundesliga single season assist record, beating De Bruyne) or Neuer (a revolutionary player at his position with his sweeper keeper style). It's also reflected in the transfer fees Guardiola spends on his players. Manchester City has an incredibly expensive squad - I believe the most expensive in the world apart from Man United and Chelsea - that cost a lot more to put together than other elite teams like Real Madrid, Liverpool, and Bayern. If you spend more than everyone else (excluding those who grossly mismanage their teams in United and Chelsea), then you should be expected to win more. But Guardiola hasn't done that on the Champions League stage, where all of these elite teams compete.
this is one of the best analysis I have ever seen in the game of football. This sport usually doesn't analyze players technically enough like other sports say American Football, Basketball, Baseball, and Tennis which always has more accurate analysis in checking how good a player is. Football (for American readers let me say soccer or World Football), usually argues based on too many emotions and feelings rather than being technical, so I really like this analysis.
One example i would like to bring is Thomas Muller: he is not the best in all basic things for a CF or CAM like passing, shooting, dribble or pace but he still good starting plays For example you could pass him the ball and with only 2 simple passes he could start a play that ends up in a goal, he really inst great at anything but still always manages to make his team score.
@@legoc-3po845 but being good at passing is not necessarily having an insanely accurate and long passing range. It is picking the right pass. I understand the point u are trying to make but don't be disrespecting muller like that.
Ederson is actually an amazing shot stopper, saving many in the CL final. Man City play a high line, and most goals are usaully 1 on 1 counter attack goals
Mainly two things : - video would have been a bit too long - Slightly unfair on him as he is blatantly a midfielder being played out of position for his whole career
This video was really well worked. It had great statistics to elaborate players weakness and skills and it was informative giving the viewers a different angle of how top players in their top teams function. For example on the face of it you might think playing T-A-A at RB is a liability for Liverpool but when you take a look through this information you might realize that Liverpool would lose more creativity by dropping him than they would gain defensive stability.
What surprises me is how G Jesus seems conformed with this status. When he arrived at City, he seemed to love scoring, but Pep convinced him to Focus on other things. I doubt that he cant train to become a medium quality finisher, XG = G ... It would change his career
@@joachimschmidt7662 Just watch any liverpool game this season. Unreal. Almost every liverpool attack starts from one of trent's passes, or runs, or dribbles. This player is too good for liverpool imo. Would walk into the real madrid starting 11.
Great video, as a liverpool fan id gladly take one or two defensive mistakes from trent in return for his offensive play every day of the week, liverpool are the best attacking and defensive team in the league currently so he is doing exactly what klopp wants him to do
@@FootballMadeSimple Not being toxic But where are Taa critics when Bissaka or Trippier who is being called the good in defending makes a lot of mistakes People go silent When Trent makes 1 mistake With his defending is worse bla3 Remember when city bottled 3 goals against real No one even talks about them While Taa who just let 1 goal in ucl final against real He is bad defending bla3
@@lordtea Because Van dijk is the best defender in Prem and konate is very good watch Arsenal vs Liverpool Konate was the one who defended Martinelli while Trent was destroyed by Martinelli
But the problem with Jesus is that in the Brazilian National team he isn't played as he should be he plays as the target man and in a post game interview he said ''My Strenght isn't scoring goals'' and everyone that doesnt know anything about football says like ''huh gabriel is a bagre (it means bad player) ''
@@hught2575Right now. But thats United for you. Every player that joined united since SAF left has been worse than before. Something structural at United. And its not just "the fans pressure". Because other teams have similar pressures (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Liverpool) and they dont have such a bad track record of destroying players
Jesus has 7 goals 4 assists in 21 games (prem/ucl) He’s on pace to have a good season plus he got 11 goals last season with 4 months off due to injury. He’s doing fine
yeah because 3-4 games doesnt make up for the other 45-50 games City played the same season and on that logic Onana is one of the greatest GK based off his UCL run
This is solid argument for all players but not for GK's. A CF can compensate his lack of finishing with excelling assisting, But a GK can't compensate conceding a saveable goal.
About Ederson, he is a great GK but one thing that u have to considerate is when u play in a team with top-tier CBs, the GK tends to do less saves but they usually are harder because of the level of the shoot, crosses, and passes has to be almost perfect to get into the defense
The real advantige of Offensive Specialists from deep is they unbalance defenses with both numbers AND quality while traditional over and underlapers end up supporting with just numbers.
If any People goalkeeper in the future or now has Edersons passing ability combined Petr Cechs saving ability we are looking at Pep winning trebles for the next 10 years. We need these caps 😂
Trent isn't the best defensively but surely he is taking small steps to improving that area of his game the ball of Mitoma cleared away at brighton even at Newcastle. Just feel like Klopp needs to grow him into being a RB so that he's good both in offence and defence
It's more tactics that leave him vulnerable. Even someone perpecieved as good defensively like Reece James for years (only a myth, he can do it as a RWB, RB he has been exposed a good amount) would be incredibly vulnerable given Trent's role.
@lordtea I think you misread me. There is levels to Trent and Reece. Trent has always been better. Reece is protected by largely negative to balanced at most managers who play CBs alongside Reece, a DM, and arguably two almost DMs. Trent is the system. And with Fabinho and Henderson aging, fatigue from long seasons and getting COVID on top of Klopp wanting him to progress the play is why Trent has been exposed at times. Walker (doesn't get criticised for his huge lack of attacking output), White last season, etc can afford to sit back as they aren't focal points either. Marcelo wasn't a good defender, but no one ever talked about it once he established himself with trophies. Trent is the standard and there are a lot of people with Liverpool derrangement syndrome who can't use logic to discuss them.
For Ederson I think some of it definitely comes down to the fact that while City much like Arsenal don't allow a high amount of shots per game, the small amount they do allow are of high chance/xG etc (which is unlike arsenal) I do believe Ederson has improved his shot stopping though thanks to finally having real competition for his spot in Ortega rather than someone like Zack Steffen who was never really going to take his place and thus push him to be better
Ok let me start. If we look at pioneers i think of mukuele. Messi, muller, thiago alcantara, busquets, iniesta. In the modern game i see firmino, trippier, bellingham, afc the big 3, joe linton, kante a bit. Some players just are special. But in ways much different than we think
Its true indeed, for a Modern Managers you can create 4 HARD "S"- a SYSTEM, STRUCTURE, STRATEGY that is so good that your team's SOFT - "S" are deemed to be at peak- STYLE, STAFF, SKILLS, SHARED VALUES etc.
Isn’t ederson currently Brazil’s first option? He’s been first option in their copa games so far, only sitting due to injury the last break when Ali took goal
Trent is actually a winger converted RB, so his defensive weakness is glaring and unabating. Liverpool played well when he was down injured without the over excited long balls. If Bradley continues to develop the way he's going, then I fear for Trent esp when Klopp leaves. I don't see him benching Szobo, Endo, Jones or Allister
Grealish would be one. Where his ball retention is world class, but his pace, 1-on-1 and goal threat is not great. Integral part of City's most successful season ever. Game management last season was incredible. This season the game management has decreased as Grealish was replaced by Doku mainly because De Bruyne was out, so the goal threat significantly decreased, demanding Doku's skills as a master of isolation play. Also I know many people like watching Foden in the middle as do I, because he is so impactful, but honestly he was better on the wing where he is not so much of a liabilty in giving givng a transition to the opponent. Only De Bruyne can play so aggressively in the midfield without allowing a dangerous transition, cos he will operate mostly close to the wing (as a Mezzala) which is less dangerous than operating aggressively in the middle - he can only do this because of his superior crossing ability, whilst Foden can't cross as well
Firmino also needs to be on this list. People laugh at the concept of 'defensive striker', but in Gegenpressing which demands the team to win the ball back as high as possible, Firmino is possibly the best CF that you could have.
Firmino is a false footballer. His weakness is playing football.
@@xMythpugur not a football fan
@@xMythpug dumbest take ever
@@xMythpug What are you waffling about?
@@xMythpug even heard of Anthony spinner
Never know what is goal and assist 🤔🤣
I'll gladly take Trent's handful of defensive mistakes per season to have one of the best passers in the world as an inverted fullback
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It also makes opposing teams predictable. They all toss the ball into the channel/behind Trent or try to get their winger 1v1 with him. Robbo is having a nice time not getting targetted (as much as I love him, he's not a defence-first FB either).
And because of Konate and Matip's skill getting past Trent rarely means anything
He’s conceded only 2 goal contributions to his winger all season, I’d say he’s more than capable defensively
Depends on situation and team.
If taa played at Burnley, do you think he's as good of RB.
On Liverpool is lack of defensive ability can be mitigated.
At Burnley, taa would have to do more defensively and in that situation taa ain't as good of RB as one would think unless you have a great manager who can figure out how to mitigate that
Bro, how about a video on the magnificent career of Angel Di Maria?
He was crucial in Real Madrid winning La Decima and Argentina winning international trophies.
He was overshadowed by the two footballing anomalies (Messi and Ronaldo). But those of us who watched him know what a game changing player he was.
not only messi and ronaldo, he was also overshadowed by neymar and mbappe in PSG. Always the second man.
@RR-nf6tbwomp womp,
Cry me a river
@RR-nf6tbmeanwhile all these penalties for Argentina and Pessi on WC
Dude is underrated as heck
Di Maria deserves a video of his own - totally agree . The threat he posed in the world cup was the reason others even got the space they got .
I genuinely believe, Ederson has become a very good shot stopper. He was very crucial in their champions league triumph.
I seeing him keep doing great save. The "can't save" is so weird to me
@@theflashgordon193 Nah as a city fan he is pretty average overall, but he was sensational in the UCL run last season
@@theflashgordon193he has one of the worst save percentages in the prem
@@theflashgordon193 He just has a terrible percentage, I think he was better than 3 keepers last season, one of which was Mark Travers, who conceded 9 to liverpool in one of his only games
There are people who belive the Earth is flat, or life events are influenced by position of planetary bodies. Everyone else can a) see his poor positioning and shotstopping, and b) look at the stats/models, which confirm the eye test. If anything, Ederson looks better than he actually is. His numbers really are shocking. A CB or CM can cover for Trent A-A, you can't cover for your keeper without getting a red card.
A good coach maximizes a player's strength and minimizes a player's weakness, but sometimes that player clashes with that coach's philosophy. A dilemma we all see nowadays... And it explains a part why coaches use 'bad' players in my opinion, the players suit the philosophy.
I agree but trent ain't a bad footballer , like he's only bad at defending they is nothing else trent is bad at literally.
Hes not that fast and strong@@datboyboltyyy3468
@@datboyboltyyy3468Well thats sucks for a defender, doesnt it?
@@LiftandCoa he is much more supposed to be a playmaker than a defender anyway, just like Pirlo and Frenkie de Jong, those two are Defensive Midfielder yet they are shit defensively that they need someone to cover their defensive weakness like Gattuso (for Pirlo) and Schone (for de Jong)
@@ahmadmuliawan0008Who is Schone
KDB and TAA side by side has my jaw drop 5:26
Kdb is being compared to midfielders trent is being compared to fullbacks, so kdb's numbers are way more impressive
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I mean I know Kevin is good, but certainly did not expect 99th percentile for EVERYTHING
@@KidneyJones not to mention its 22/23, i would love to see trent's best season compared to KDB's best season, cause it would be a washout
our front three of mane firmino and salah a couple of years ago i feel all fit within a similar bracket, the biggest strengths of each player fell outside of what was typically expected from their positions, firmino particularly was criticised at times like this whenever he was having a rough patch infront of goal
Now, GKs aee divided into two types:
1. GKs who are great with their feet but cant save shots (Ederson, Raya, Ramsdale, Onana...)
2. GKs who are great at shot stopping but cant distribute (Courtois, Vicario, De gea, Pope...)
There are very few GKs who can do both, thats currently Alisson amd Neuer.
I love the fact that u brought this up, great vid
Allison is terrible at passing makes way more errors than Ederson.... Recently Edison has been comming up with big saves more often a definite improvement
As I know, Vicario can distribute
I'd take a gk who can stop shots over a gk who can distribute any day of the week
@@robinramkhalawan468bro….
@@tylerdordon99 same. My friend is a Benfica fan, their keeper, Trubin, have won them games while my keeper Raya have lost us games
Ederson is an amazing keeper he has improved his game massively, not to forget how great he is. With his feet.
a keepers ability isn't measured by his feet, it is measured by what he is supposed to do, keep balls from going past the goal line!
@@SanusiAdewalehe's fucking becoming better than his past...
Doesn't mean he's way better than he used to be, he just have better defenders in front of him @@abdullahsajjad9682
Allison is the best keeper in the league. BTW I'm Chelsea fan
but if the keepers has the balls, how can others score against keepers?@@SanusiAdewale
This is why I think that Giroud is one of the most undervalued players in the last decade. France wouldn't have won the World Cup without him.
he is average player to be honest there is so many players with his strengths and even better
@@abdotaher9109 bang average unless it france and with occasional great finish at times.
@@abdotaher9109 You don`t get to start ahead Benzema for many years in the France side, if you`re an average player.
while Benzema is undoubtedly the more talented all around player, what Giroud is good at, being a target man and using his physicality, are things Benzema are worse at then Giroud, and Giroud is also a great big game player, he shows up consistently when France needs him to.
Griezmann u mean
@@thetruth4654 stop yapping benzema was suspended that’s the only reason giroud was playing
One of the solutions to the Trent issue, from the England team perspective, is to play him either out of position as a defensive midfielder or (less likely) as an inverted right back. He's spoken about trying midfield for England before, and that he probably prefers that position when playing internationally, at least. In fact in call-up team sheets he is more often referred to as a midfielder than a defender. That being said, he has played both roles for England so his versatility as a Euro squad choice can't really be overstated.
It’s always neat to see Comparative Advantage illustrated in the “real world” outside of the world of principle of macroeconomics. Good video.
2:20 when saying shots off target you showed nunez😂❤
Really really interesting piece .......... Something I learnt from this video is sometimes you just have to accept your weak points and focus heavily on your strengths
thats a favourable decision for most instances in life, not just sometimes
“can’t save” is blasphemy tbh
Trent’s defensive ability is pretty underrated. I know he isn’t the best at defending but, he’s not bad either. It’s just that he is so good up the field and leaves so much room behind him which makes teams create more chances on his side
No it isn't his defensive IQ is as good as a snail. And is always going to be a liability because of it. He is great offensively but against a le who is a 6/10 or above he can't defend them.
@@galaxyknight7309he is an inverted right back now this suits him much more
@@galaxyknight7309that’s just nonsense! If you actually look at his stats for the last 5-6 years his defensive numbers are mostly on par with the leagues other full backs!
The amount of times I’ve seen other high class full backs make mistakes that is never mentioned in the same way TAA is unbelievable yet it’s never mentioned 🤦
Games where he has dominated with regards to his defensive role is literally ignored, out of ALL the players on the pitch for example, he had the best defensive stats in the whole game against Man City, yet, after the game, people nonsensically went on about Doku and his ‘successful’ dribbles simply cause he played LW and TAA is RB when in fact the ONLY attacking move he created from his dribbling was against Mac Alister that led to a shot going wide
Give us stats instead of you nonsensically rambling on bud
Let me ask, if he is THAT bad, every team that fails to capitalise on him being the worst defender in the whole universe actually means they’ve failed, he is that bad surely if teams don’t get a goal from his lack of defensive ability means that they’ve done a worse job at attacking right? So that means their attackers are worse than TAA? 😂
Dear god, what utter shite people like you talk
@@Vegan_Photographs First of all the video just proved that defensively he is below above
Secondly there mistakes are more forgivable because there are better at defending but yes it should be covered the same way I agree because I mistake is a mistake but I understand why sometimes it isn't to the same extent but it is still covered for the most part.
I do agree he was good against man city and the criticism was unnecessary
The video proves he's bad defensively I don't need too. Don't ever call me bud I understand your passionate and want to defend Trent because you think I'm wrong but have some respect.
And lastly teams have capitalized on him. In 1v1 situations he almost always beaten and just because they don't score or win doesn't mean they didn't take advantage of his defensive flaws. That last point respectfully was pathetic.
Lastly again have some respect I understand this is the Internet but if you won't talk to me like this in rela life don't say it online.
@@Vegan_Photographs"Best defensive stats in the whole game vs Man City" stopped reading there 🤦♂️
Ederson has been a great shot stopper for the last year and a half, plus he's still the best with his feet. The criticism for him seems a couple years late. Previously, I would've agreed
Did u not watch the video or?
@@deenofm3620im also wondering the same things 😂.
@@deenofm3620bro deluded 😂😂
His shot stopping has definitely improved. But whenever city is caught lacking (which they do a lot these days) he'll concede. something like De Gea. Good but still concedes a lot.
He's not a "great" shot stopper, he's improved but he's average at best
Darwin is a very similar case. We all know about his finishing and run timing being very subpar, but he's still been involved in over 30 goals this season.
His ridiculous pace, oppressive presence, playmaking and chance creation offset the lack of composure in front of the net.
its not a similar case lmao we only notice darwins playmaking bc its one of the few things he does right. salah shouldve had like 20+ assists this season if not for darwin. and darwin isnt a false 9 hes supposed to be an actual striker
and darwins playmaking is only good for a striker, its not genuinely overall elite like trents is
Every player has a weakness or gap in their game. It's good coaching to combine a squad that covers for each others weaknesses while simultaneously boosting their strengths
Wow. Well done. One of the best analyses I've watched and listened to.
I'm an Arsenal fan and it's a club culture for our strikers to be involved in the build up play and should be ready to change position inside a game: Kanu, Anelka, Reyes, Henry, Walcott, Van Persie, Giroud, Babtista, Carlos Vela etc. The list is plenty actually.
But what those players/strikers listed above had that time were midfielders, whether attacking or defensive (Gilberto, Edu, Arteta, Vieira, Rosicky, Dennis Bergkamp (he was in midfield before he was moved forward to partner Thierry Henry) who were actively scoring goals.
To illustrate it better. Henry was not replaced immediately after his transfer to Barca and Arsenals' input of goals didn't dropped significantly. Same with Van Versie's departure (Giroud and Podolski didn't hit the ground running immediately, But Arsenal never lack goals. Our issue has always been defence.
Arsenal is getting there. That's how I rate my manager: Arteta. All his players are scoring goals. That's a threat to other teams.
Thank you for the upload 🙏🏾
One could equally argue the problem is the lack of goals. I.e., Arsenal don't score enough goals to compensate for the defence. Games are won by goal difference. Attack and defence are not more important than each other, beyond saying you can't win without scoring at least once. In the 2019/20, 2020/21, 2021/22 seasons, Arsenal scored 56-61 goals in the league. Was the problem the defence? Same deal for 1992/3 and the following three seasons. OK in 1994/95 the problem was also the defence.
Harry Maguire deserves to be here :
- He created the false center back
- He kick Pogba on his head , strike down his fellow center backs defenders , got on the way of CR7 header , and he gets away with all of it
- He also have an insane passing to the opposition
- He is the #1 enemy of David De Gea
Also has world record for most own goals
Leave that guy alone
This stuff is so over said it isn’t even funny anymore
That's MU's best player ths season.
@@London4Ever04English player apologists? Cuz he has a British Passeoort but it’s fun to make fun of Pogba right?
I understand Jesus's link up play is excellent, but his finishing is so poor that it's a case of the ends not justifying the means. At City, Pep played midfielders, wingers and even Zinchenko up front ahead of Jesus despite him being the only recognised striker in the squad, before he was deemed surplus to requirements and sold. At Arsenal last season, the team's record with Jesus was 2 points per game while their record without him was 2.06. What makes this worse is that in those games without him, Arsenal were playing Nketiah, a bang average striker, and actually had a better record. The man simply isn't good enough to start for a top team.
You’re very dumb. Jesus is simply misprofiled and isn’t surrounded by competent enough attackers at Arsenal
Ouch. That's good info right there, and an extremely compelling argument by using Nketiah as the comparison. Being that after the Fulham game I've essentially given up on Nketiah, this is all the more reason to stick Havertz up top. I honestly don't know why Arteta is fighting it. The answer is right in front of you Mikel...You have a BFG on the squad that's a freaking perfect answer for the position. His finishing won't be any worse than Jesus, and considering all Saka and Martinelli are doing is crossing it in...to 5 foot nothing Jesus.... Ugh. Mikel. Put the square piece in the square hole. It's not that hard.
@@therealking6202Havertz is a tree
He is probably better suited to be a winger
If you don’t like Jesus you don’t like Firmino either. The difference between the two is that Liverpool has a better attacking dynamics than Arsenal current has, with more creative output (Robert and Trent) and prolific wingers. Arsenal doesn’t have any of these. In fact their dynamic is poor between the wingers and the 8s, which is why they are not scoring. Pointing finger at Jesus is asking the wrong question, and it has nothing to do with whether he can play in a top team or not, because he certainly can.
When we needed him most, he posts again!
Got so many vids ready for Jan/Feb
@@FootballMadeSimple Will be looking forward to it 👀
Perfect, I've Been Saying This For The Past Decade. Guardiola Took Bad / Average Players And Made Them Into Stars, Individually They Are Not Great Outside Of Guardiola's System. Xavi Wouldn't Do Well In A 2005 AC Milan Midfield (Seedorf, Pirlo, Kaka), He Would Be Just Another Player. Guardiola Killed The Skillful 9 / 10 Like Ronaldinho, Eto, Toure and Ibrahimovic. Yes More Goals Are Being Scored But Players Are Becoming Less Skillfull.
The Only Position That Hasn’t Changed In Modern Football Is The Winger (Messi, C.Ronaldo, Neymar, Mane, Salah, Sane). They Are The Most Technical.
This Video Perfectly Summarizes What I Have Been Feeling In The Last 10 Years.
Xavi wouldnt be successfull in 2005 milan that only one league and two champions league shut the fuck up 😂😂😂
This is so untrue. At least at Manchester City and Bayern, Guardiola took absolutely elite players who were, on the whole, the most talented squad of individuals in their respective leagues and basically performed as you would expect when you have the best squad in the league - by winning it consistently. In fact, I would argue he underperformed by not winning the Champions League more often, since his Bayern and City squads were more than talented enough to do so.
You can't tell me that players like De Bruyne (who broke the Bundesliga single season assist record at the time before joining Man City) or Haaland (who was scoring an outrageous ~1 goal per game at all of his professional teams before City) are "bad / average players." Same thing with guys like Lewandowski (who broke the Bundesliga single season scoring record), Müller (who now has the Bundesliga single season assist record, beating De Bruyne) or Neuer (a revolutionary player at his position with his sweeper keeper style).
It's also reflected in the transfer fees Guardiola spends on his players. Manchester City has an incredibly expensive squad - I believe the most expensive in the world apart from Man United and Chelsea - that cost a lot more to put together than other elite teams like Real Madrid, Liverpool, and Bayern. If you spend more than everyone else (excluding those who grossly mismanage their teams in United and Chelsea), then you should be expected to win more. But Guardiola hasn't done that on the Champions League stage, where all of these elite teams compete.
this is one of the best analysis I have ever seen in the game of football. This sport usually doesn't analyze players technically enough like other sports say American Football, Basketball, Baseball, and Tennis which always has more accurate analysis in checking how good a player is. Football (for American readers let me say soccer or World Football), usually argues based on too many emotions and feelings rather than being technical, so I really like this analysis.
That's why comparing modern and older player is just stupid, cause the state of game nowadays and old games is just very different
Yes. Lot more technical now.
When it matters, ederson has come up with some massive saves
In all past UCLs he didn't though... Up until the treble season
hes been horrid in ever imp game
and this is coming frm cit fan
One example i would like to bring is Thomas Muller: he is not the best in all basic things for a CF or CAM like passing, shooting, dribble or pace but he still good starting plays
For example you could pass him the ball and with only 2 simple passes he could start a play that ends up in a goal, he really inst great at anything but still always manages to make his team score.
😂muller has the second most assist in history
Muller is one the best player of this generation
@@muntasirprovab thats the thing, he knows how to assist with football IQ instead of crazy passes making him effective at long therm
@@legoc-3po845 but being good at passing is not necessarily having an insanely accurate and long passing range. It is picking the right pass. I understand the point u are trying to make but don't be disrespecting muller like that.
Muller rarely ever loses the ball
Ederson is actually an amazing shot stopper, saving many in the CL final. Man City play a high line, and most goals are usaully 1 on 1 counter attack goals
Excluding world class players, the importance for athleticism has increased more than the need for technical ability.
In the modern game there are two formations in and out of possession, there is no fixed position
Great video man. Keep up the good work. Football need more of these.
I totally agree with you. How did Zinchenko miss out from this list?
Mainly two things : - video would have been a bit too long - Slightly unfair on him as he is blatantly a midfielder being played out of position for his whole career
Spot on ...Have been waiting for this
This video was really well worked. It had great statistics to elaborate players weakness and skills and it was informative giving the viewers a different angle of how top players in their top teams function. For example on the face of it you might think playing T-A-A at RB is a liability for Liverpool but when you take a look through this information you might realize that Liverpool would lose more creativity by dropping him than they would gain defensive stability.
What surprises me is how G Jesus seems conformed with this status. When he arrived at City, he seemed to love scoring, but Pep convinced him to Focus on other things. I doubt that he cant train to become a medium quality finisher, XG = G ... It would change his career
Ederson has greatly improved in his shot stopping
Trent has moved up to world class this season - he would be in the World 11 rn
Over Porro and Cancelo and Frimpong? Over Walker? IIRC, stats have he and Porro neck-and-neck.
@@joachimschmidt7662 Just watch any liverpool game this season. Unreal. Almost every liverpool attack starts from one of trent's passes, or runs, or dribbles. This player is too good for liverpool imo. Would walk into the real madrid starting 11.
But in the midfield
He’s been world class from 2019-2021 just went a little off form for awhile.
@@joachimschmidt7662Porro 😂😂😂
In few word, you don't need Buffon or Casillas when you can just hog possession with a third CB wearing gloves
“Ederson Can’t save” Is one of the most disrespectful quotes I’ve seen he was literally crucial for that UCL final.
It's facts bro
It's not disrespectful when he produces those kind of performances 2-3 times a year
Its true, you cant look at 1 game and then go damn the other 50 games when 70% of all GK were better than him at making saves, for 2 years in a row
Great video, as a liverpool fan id gladly take one or two defensive mistakes from trent in return for his offensive play every day of the week, liverpool are the best attacking and defensive team in the league currently so he is doing exactly what klopp wants him to do
Can't believe can't defend now has the least goals conceded in the league
Personally love Trent, but can't deny defensively he's not the best
@@FootballMadeSimple
Not being toxic
But where are Taa critics when Bissaka or Trippier who is being called the good in defending makes a lot of mistakes
People go silent
When Trent makes 1 mistake
With his defending is worse bla3
Remember when city bottled 3 goals against real
No one even talks about them
While Taa who just let 1 goal in ucl final against real
He is bad defending bla3
@@lordtea Because Van dijk is the best defender in Prem and konate is very good watch Arsenal vs Liverpool Konate was the one who defended Martinelli while Trent was destroyed by Martinelli
@@lordtea the difference between them is that when they make a defensive error it's a mistake. When TAA makes a defensive error it's an expectation
@@fishyfish6510
That is why I hated that kind of biased 😌
Trent is a generational player.
So basically they're not that good at a lot of stuff, but close to perfect in one thing.
Exactly, and it works well in their teams system
@FootballMadeSimple messi or ronaldo
Alexander-Arnold is the best full-back of his generation and it’s not up for debate.
Get out
@@tylerdordon99 James fanbase detect
😂😂😂😂😂 best full back
Not gonna say full back. Because he do everything great other than main work of fullback. He should become a midfielder.
Um, Andy Robertson?
Theo Hernandez, Cancelo, Blade (with time?), Camavinga 😝, Alphonso Davies, Frimpong (both with more time?), Halimia, Gbardiol (with time)
But the problem with Jesus is that in the Brazilian National team he isn't played as he should be he plays as the target man and in a post game interview he said ''My Strenght isn't scoring goals'' and everyone that doesnt know anything about football says like ''huh gabriel is a bagre (it means bad player) ''
Crazy how elite alisson is at shot-stopping than ederson is, and they have almost identical careers
City fans can't even recognize a good shot stopper anymore the way they're trying to claim otherwise.
Class video man, real entertaining and informative to watch.
Pls do analysis of Nickolas Jackson
A Chelsea legend 😂😂
From what I have always noticed, Ederson is a wonderful shot-stopper.
This season he has been pretty bad, but honestly he is still vital for city
@@jasonmillsom2981He’s been great this season wdym
Not really, if we compare to Ter Stegen or Courtois. But he is good with his foot, just like Onana.
@@edk1124onana ain’t good at anything right now.
@@hught2575Right now. But thats United for you. Every player that joined united since SAF left has been worse than before.
Something structural at United. And its not just "the fans pressure". Because other teams have similar pressures (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Liverpool) and they dont have such a bad track record of destroying players
The really an honour sir. Hearing from you, the next world cup winning coach. Not once but a hat-trick.
I wish you made this video when de Gea was still at United tbh it’s still a great video though
Jesus has 7 goals 4 assists in 21 games (prem/ucl)
He’s on pace to have a good season
plus he got 11 goals last season with 4 months off due to injury. He’s doing fine
That Nunez pic, explaining the quality of the shot on the Goal kepper GX topic
Ederson isnt even a bad shot stopper
Do you think Gabriel Jesus would succeed at the CAM position
That is what I'm talking about he will be better at CM and CAM
I wonder if there is a sort of "hunter/killer" position between CAM and striker? That would fit Jesus to a tee.
Unfortunately for Jesus if that was the case he’d have to compete with Ødegaard for the attacking midfielder spot
😅 the picture of Nunez when he talks about an off target shot in front of goal
You should also take a look at zinchenko, as he makes many key passes per game, and it showed vs Palace this week
Saying that ederson cant defend is so fucking funnny
Saying Ederson can't save is just not true
Beautiful example on why stats dont lie if you know which one to analyze correctly
People who called ederson a hologram didnt watch the games against bayer, real and inter milan
yeah because 3-4 games doesnt make up for the other 45-50 games City played the same season
and on that logic Onana is one of the greatest GK based off his UCL run
@@imo098765 i aint gonna name other 10-15 games where he played well
This is solid argument for all players but not for GK's. A CF can compensate his lack of finishing with excelling assisting, But a GK can't compensate conceding a saveable goal.
Ederson in the Champions League final was immense last season.
About Ederson, he is a great GK but one thing that u have to considerate is when u play in a team with top-tier CBs, the GK tends to do less saves but they usually are harder because of the level of the shoot, crosses, and passes has to be almost perfect to get into the defense
Then why were his xgot-gc -6 last season
Excellent video! Really insightful stuff. +1 subscriber.
Hey just wondering how do you get your statistics ?
2:20 image of Darwin Nunez to explain goal xg 😂😂
And nunez has more goal/assist than this guy
@@lordtea Hope that image won’t haunt u at d end of season.His goal xg ratio is low and dats a fact
@@anunnaki7075 so
U thought his miss alone would bottle Liverpool's trophy
Var bullshit decisions cost Liverpool more points than this guy
@@lordtea and u hv d most illogical reasoning & comparison to defend a striker who’s dropping points fr us instead of winning matches.
@@lordtea has var only affected Liverpool ?
Hard to argue when u hv legit facts😂
Wasn't Firmino doing with Mane and Salah what is expected of Jesus, only he was infinitely better and could finish as well?
yes
Trent Alexander Arnold is an all timer
Ucl ederson is amazing
Ederson is still the most underrated and overhated keeper in prem history.
Tbh I can't believe those guys who hated ederson even exists
Wow, this man gave me alot of info! thx man whata video. i really really appreciate u and ur channel.
Great video!! 👍👍👍
Brilliant video bruv! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
That is why Neuer is the greatest Keeper of all time 🤝🏼
Casillas and Buffon disagrees
The real advantige of Offensive Specialists from deep is they unbalance defenses with both numbers AND quality while traditional over and underlapers end up supporting with just numbers.
Make atleast 5 vids this month bro I can't wait 😂
We really needed this video❤
Wow great video....... quite unique in its kind, topic and delivery....more of this❤❤❤
If any People goalkeeper in the future or now has Edersons passing ability combined Petr Cechs saving ability we are looking at Pep winning trebles for the next 10 years.
We need these caps 😂
Trent isn't the best defensively but surely he is taking small steps to improving that area of his game the ball of Mitoma cleared away at brighton even at Newcastle. Just feel like Klopp needs to grow him into being a RB so that he's good both in offence and defence
It's more tactics that leave him vulnerable. Even someone perpecieved as good defensively like Reece James for years (only a myth, he can do it as a RWB, RB he has been exposed a good amount) would be incredibly vulnerable given Trent's role.
@@LoCoAde87 Sorry James is good
But sadly I am prefer Trent more as he is super glass 🥂
Trent has improved massively defensively since becoming vice captain, but it doesn't suit people's agendas
@@AbsolutelyAbsolute sadly
People already assumed that he would make mistakes even when he didn't do it
@lordtea I think you misread me. There is levels to Trent and Reece. Trent has always been better. Reece is protected by largely negative to balanced at most managers who play CBs alongside Reece, a DM, and arguably two almost DMs. Trent is the system. And with Fabinho and Henderson aging, fatigue from long seasons and getting COVID on top of Klopp wanting him to progress the play is why Trent has been exposed at times. Walker (doesn't get criticised for his huge lack of attacking output), White last season, etc can afford to sit back as they aren't focal points either. Marcelo wasn't a good defender, but no one ever talked about it once he established himself with trophies. Trent is the standard and there are a lot of people with Liverpool derrangement syndrome who can't use logic to discuss them.
For Ederson I think some of it definitely comes down to the fact that while City much like Arsenal don't allow a high amount of shots per game, the small amount they do allow are of high chance/xG etc (which is unlike arsenal)
I do believe Ederson has improved his shot stopping though thanks to finally having real competition for his spot in Ortega rather than someone like Zack Steffen who was never really going to take his place and thus push him to be better
Ok let me start.
If we look at pioneers i think of mukuele. Messi, muller, thiago alcantara, busquets, iniesta.
In the modern game i see firmino, trippier, bellingham, afc the big 3, joe linton, kante a bit. Some players just are special. But in ways much different than we think
Its true indeed, for a Modern Managers you can create 4 HARD "S"- a SYSTEM, STRUCTURE, STRATEGY that is so good that your team's SOFT - "S" are deemed to be at peak- STYLE, STAFF, SKILLS, SHARED VALUES etc.
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Fantastic video ❤
Isn’t ederson currently Brazil’s first option? He’s been first option in their copa games so far, only sitting due to injury the last break when Ali took goal
always quality content
7:05 Bernado💀
Another banger ❤
Ederson's 2022/23 season is overrated tbh, he was the third keeper with the worst save% at only 59%
Trent is actually a winger converted RB, so his defensive weakness is glaring and unabating. Liverpool played well when he was down injured without the over excited long balls. If Bradley continues to develop the way he's going, then I fear for Trent esp when Klopp leaves. I don't see him benching Szobo, Endo, Jones or Allister
Grealish would be one. Where his ball retention is world class, but his pace, 1-on-1 and goal threat is not great. Integral part of City's most successful season ever. Game management last season was incredible. This season the game management has decreased as Grealish was replaced by Doku mainly because De Bruyne was out, so the goal threat significantly decreased, demanding Doku's skills as a master of isolation play. Also I know many people like watching Foden in the middle as do I, because he is so impactful, but honestly he was better on the wing where he is not so much of a liabilty in giving givng a transition to the opponent. Only De Bruyne can play so aggressively in the midfield without allowing a dangerous transition, cos he will operate mostly close to the wing (as a Mezzala) which is less dangerous than operating aggressively in the middle - he can only do this because of his superior crossing ability, whilst Foden can't cross as well
The 3players strength is more helpful to the team than their weakness
Another great video
How aren’t u at a Million Subs yet ?
Gabriel Jesus has recently been mocked in Brazilian television and among Brazilians in general for saying "scoring isn't my strong suit".
Zinchenko is the same type. Timber could possibly fill that role better but we simply haven't seen him enough in that role
It just proves how football have evolved. It's all about system.