Cavs vs Magic Game 6 2009 NBA Playoffs - 5/30/09 - Jalen Rose Analyzes on ESPN
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The Orlando Magic beat the Cleveland Cavaliers 103-90 in their Game 6 matchup in the 2009 Eastern Conference Finals.
Dwight Howard dominated inside the paint with 40 points to lead the Magic to the Eastern Conference Title over LeBron James and the Cavs on Saturday night. The Magic will return to the NBA Finals for the first time since the Shaq era in Orlando.
Jalen Rose analyzes on ESPN Sportscenter.
nice job jalen reading that teleprompter
🤣🤣🤣
People forget how many great 3 point shooters the Magic had. It wasn’t all about Dwight, he had a team of great shooters around him to pass to. We were ahead of our time with having almost our whole team being 3 point shooters. Most teams didn’t have both starting forwards be able to make 3’s like we did.
Actually it was about Dwight, he dominated the interior so much that the shooters had open looks
@@collllllll Well yea it was about Dwight he was the focal point. But Magic’s 3 point shooting was innovative and elite at the time.
These Magic were kind of like the precursors to the championship Warriors.
@@Nightskyninjareminded me about when Shaw was with the magic and literally they were attempting and naming the most 3 in the nba in either 94 or 95. Scott, Anderson, Penny, Skiles. Shaq in LA had people like fox, Horry, Fisher, shaw, and Rice. This Magic team had the big guy down low and shooters around him.
*Shaq
I miss our 2009 Magic team );
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE MAGIC!!!
Do you love that L y’all took?
its funny when lebron wins 62 games in a season his fans talk all the shit we are gonna win this year and yet when he loses in the playoffs they try to blame it on the supporting cast as for kobe 6-24 is better when u have the whole celtics team trying to guard your ass i bet it will be chicago and boston in the eastern conference finals this year
Even though I'm a Magic fan I still felt sad seeing LeBron walk off the court lol
I felt HAPPY. F that guy
@@TheRbruin10hating on a guy who doesn’t know you exist is incredibly sad
@@WADESGOATED I don't hate on him. I just can't stand his delusional toxic fans.
HOWARD WAS A BEAST BACK IN THE DAY
This magic squad had something, I wish Howard stayed
What I remember from this year is the coach should had kept the backup point guard the starter in the final instead of going back to Jameer Nelson?
Dwight Howard has so much potential but he's waisting his best years because he refuses to develop a post game. If he would add more moves to his arsenal, get his teammates involved more (another thing that separates him from the legends) and demand the ball more he'd be a serious MVP candidate every year. He also needs to demand the ball more and stop letting VC, Rashard and Jameer jack up long jumpers.
LakersDynasty42 well he never added to his arsenal
Welp
Bruh his post game was the best during that time
The excuses they had for lebron in this series they had best record in league this year and the excuses was crazy
Without Lebron Cleveland is bottom of the league. Lebron did his part. His team didn't show up.
LeBron doesn't choke because he lacks confidence in himself, he just doesn't have confidence in his team and for good reason
That isn't a excuse for dissapearig in the 4th. Dude played bad in game 6 vs magic.
@@tj5180 bro u replied after 11 years 😭
man much respect to # 23,, man this guy is just unblieavble he did all he could to carry this team,, even though am rockets fan, but this guy is such joy to watch,,,, but 1 against 5, is not gonna workout,,, and no body helped througout the series,,, if he did play well this series they could've been swept easily, but he was basically carrying the team on his back,,, and u cant take nothing from this guy...
howard celebrating and lebron leaving the court quickly LOL
d C’mon man, of course LeBron wants to get out of there, his team was the favorite, he’s the better player, they had equal rosters and Cavs has Mike Brown who was the coach of the year, stop hating on LeBron he has all the right to be upset here.
Samuel Gonzalez they didn’t have equal rosters lmao Magic were a way better team with players that could create their own shots
KJ x BUCKETS they had equal level talent, you lebron nut huggers make way too many excuses..
I remember watching this game and wanting LeBron and the Cavs to win so badly. Other than the 2015 team, this was my favorite Cavs team.
this is why the series will be very entertaining, talking about the strategies each team much deal with and come up with a counter lol
and they got crushed 4-1 to the lakers
ESPN was making excuses for LeBron even in 2009.
Some things never change with ESPN.
hey as far as im concerned i love lebron but i hate how the media gives him special treatment. if kobe did this you and the entire media world would be bashing him and calling him unsportsman. kobe had all the hype of celts-lakers last year and was expected to win but he still congragulated the celts and took the press conference.
Love 2009 never forget 2009 best year nba yes!!!!
you are right, there is no such thing as winning 66 games and not have a good team, but it doesn't hurt to have a better supporting casts though, besides, of those 82 regular season games, the cavs lost to ultraelite/playoff teams, which leads to the similar results in playoffs
Still depressed over this year, my Nuggets best chance at a ring to date.
This was a intense Playoffs. People gloss over the NBA hyping Kobe vs LeBron but lbj didn't make it
Hope u enjoying their run rn
Y’all won 🏆 the chip
I don't know but it originated on the Steve Harvey Morning show(Radio) a few years ago. This little kid would always say it.
Everyone's situation is different. I believe MJ was around 28 when he got his first ring. It's human nature to compare two people involved in the same thing. We always compare singers, actors, comedians, sports stars, etc. Why can't we just appreciate the both of them for being to of the best players in the league.
Ayo you might be on to something
i have to admitt though the magics have been pretty impressive this season
Remember the NBA was hyping Kobe vs Lbj
lakers vs magic ! damn thats such a good match up i love these nba playoffs !! : )
Firsthahdja jadjalkjd as trump says lol WRONG
Stan Van screwed the Magic out of a Ring when he put in Nelson and took Skip out in the finals. Smh
Kobe would've dropped 40 on Skip's head too
@@BenFrankMadeThis808 It wasn’t about that. It was about chemistry. The series would’ve gonna to 7 either way
@@100spursNonsense! Skip was suspended during the Celtics series and it didn't make a lick of a difference. They won the game he was suspended for.
Another must win situation and LeChoke..
Classless act !!!
15 Years Later They Will Face Each Other In The First Round
there is no way that Lebron and Shaq can be better than Shaq and Kobe
"James said he sent an e-mail to Howard following Saturday's game.
"It's hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them," he said. "I'm a winner. It's not being a poor sport or anything like that. If somebody beats you up, you're not going to congratulate them. That doesn't make sense to me. I'm a competitor. That's what I do. It doesn't make sense for me to go over and shake somebody's hand.""
So much for that...
Lebron scored 108 of 184 made shots for his team in this series. COME ON
Scored OR assisted, my friend.
and that was only in the first five games
L. No he didnt, try again! Quit misquoting the media narrative
bdaddymar34 The genius of the LeBron James System baby! It doesn’t win chips though, that’s why he won when he allowed his teammates to have established roles. The Big 3 Miami tema and the Big 3 Cavs team.
That’s bc he hogs the ball
If only cleveland vs Lakers would have happened 😤
It would have been an even worse series lol
Lakers would have swept that ass 😂
Isaiah Thomas did that back in 1991 along with half of his team.
THEIR INABILITY TO GUARD THE 3 POINT LINE IS WAT KILLED THEM
if i was in lebrons shoes this is what i would be thinking in regards free agency.....ok with the cavaliers i already proved the world i am the best basketall player in the nba.....so now i want rings but by staying with the cavs is that what i am going to get (prob. Not). Signing with a team that has the dept to get a ring is what should be in Labrons mind at this point. Rings are what talk in the NBA besides the pts and all that good stuff
Yeah Jalen! Go Magic.
I've got to agree with you eelnatsdrahcir it is the whole team's responsiblity.
Matt winer tryna brainwash ppl? 5 player on court and only lebrick show up? Delonte 22. Mo wil 17 5
Varejao 14 8.
They didn't want Kobe to lose at the hands of LeBron and end up never getting a title without Shaq. That's what the Magic win was all about.
Kobe destroyed Lebron in a sweep 🥱🥱
@@TheHoopGod_23 when ? In your laker dreams ?
mo and delonte and andy played well yesterday what else do you want them to do just give the magic credit.
Personally, I don't think they stand a chance against LA, but I think they can take either Denver/Dallas to 7 games. I'll revisit this page once the playoffs commence and see if I'm right or not. lol
Cavs never choked. Teams get discouraged when they see a fixed fight unfolding. Just as the Lakers did when facing Boston in the Finals a couple of seasons ago.
Hahaha the 2010 finals was rigged for the Lakers
28
My man Nick Anderson under the bus..
The Cavs need a younger and stronger C. I'm not saying Ilgauskas is bad but he's old. He's had his share, he's a great shooting C but they need a strong man in the paint when on defense.
No. Mike Brown was good, that's why he has a second coming with Cleveland now. They shouldn't have fired him in the first place. It was the supporting cast not the coaching.
FLASH03 Meh, you’re oversimplifying the issue, it falls on The LeBron James System I’m sure back in these days it people haven’t figured out it was LeBron who refused to ingratiate himself to a team system and thought it was the coach of the years’ fault. But in 2019 we’ve seen LeGM acquiring a puzzling, but talented, support cast which he refused to adopt to. He was having Lonzo Ball and Rajon Rondo shooting threes off the catch & shoot and keeping the ball out shot creators hands in Ingram and Kuzma. Playing this ball dominant style which includes slow offensive movement and lack of box outs favoring getting low value defensive rebounds while leaving the defense vulnerable. Incrementally I have realized this as my understanding of the game increased, LeBron has to give his brand up, those stats, for a team friendly system with established roles. *Kobe softened this criticism by telling him and the media that he should “let his teammates step up” in order to win,* this tells us that Kobe (and Magic who has been critical aswell) are having these phone conversations with LeBron frequently. I hope we’ll see that LeBron next season so he can win a championship.
@@samuel2pac72 lol bkackey
A good playmaker and some decent bench players would also be huge.
Couldve been a Lebron vs melo finals, or Lakers vs cavs finals :'(
@SupremekaiD5 never underestimate the heart of a champion
I'm worried about my Lakers.
Bynum vs. Superman? We're in a bit of trouble.
Huesos 138 trump:: wrong we have Kobe..
Jesus Christ the Cavs sucked at rebounding. Howard bullied them the entire series.
So let me get this straight...
The West has 3 GREAT teams that combine to form a record of 114-54, but the East simply has 3 "Good" teams that form a record of 116-52.
Ok, makes perfect sense now.
I've actually changed my decision Orlando Magic are actually nasty after reviewing this video overall, my guess is there winning
Even with KG, the team can't compete with the top of the league. They won't be able to play their best players as many minutes as they need during the season to get home court in the playoffs, and even then..in the playoffs, they will be facing some great teams in the East, and going 7 games is about too much for them.
Let's Go Magic!
thats why the cavs shoud of got o'neal and studimire oneal maybe old but he was averaging 17 points a game
didnt watch thgis series much but the cavs did have the better team u cant deny that
and id love to see how the match ups will go next year when the magics starting line up is , rashard, howard, carter, its gonna be a done deal when they inevitably meet in the playoffs
bengalbengalbengal lol
lmao!! reading this comment 2 years later is hilarious
It's guys on here hating that couldn't average 38-8-8 in a rec league tournament let alone a nba playoffs stop hating on lebron he got 2ribgs now cause he got help
this is basketball.. no1 can be certain who will win on a game.. it's just the ball itself...Magic won and i think they deserved it.. I'm a Lakers and Kobe fan but i know how to appreciate other players' performances.. Lebron did a great job, it's just that it's not enough.. just good luck next time.. No1 can blame Lebron why they didnt make it.. It's the whole team's responsibility.. they just need to improve and i really hope that next year it's Kobe vs Lebron in the finals..
Most awesome magic roster ive ever seen that year with great starters and bench.
PG- Rafer Alston ( in place of injured jameer nelson )
SG- Courtney lee
SF- Hedo Turkoglu
PF- Reshard lewis
C- Dwight howard
Bench :
Mickeal pietrus ( who was effective that year and even now)
marcin gortat
jj redick,
anthony johnson
Keith bogans
and tony battie
evillathone It was a really good team I agree, on paper they seemed like a tough match up for Kobe Bryant, a lot of good, latterly quick long defenders. Kobe went off though. Ugh, I love this period of the NBA, too bad everything didn’t pan out the way I hoped. I need to see Kobe vs LeBron in the Finals to determine who would be my all time favorite player, but is still 1A LeBron and 1B Kobe.
@@samuel2pac72 Why? Lebron would lose to Kobe. Kobe was out there to prove that he could win without Shaq. So, if the cavs fought Lakers then the cavs would easily lose 5 games. Regular season cavs had upper hand on Lakers but remember, Regular season is different than the playoffs. If we saw Lebron vs Kobe in the finals. Lebron would have lost so he's very lucky. There's a reason his banana boat crew all said Kobe better.
U got every point right.
Totally agree with u
Lebron always getting excuses 😂 other guys weren’t pulling their weight? Why not? They had the best record in the regular season. Maybe because James was fool’s gold and looked good while losing to save face
the 2nd Quarter made a bad impact for the cavs...
and the center was always defenceless
So now with Shaq the center is now tight and might give them the championship they'll need
your actually right in a way as for marcus camby they werent gonna get him the clippers were not gonna let him go
And also Bynum has had trouble in every series covering a decent low post presence. Nene had some pretty good games versus Bynum and playing him one on one with Howard is not the smartest thing. Bynum will get into foul trouble and it will force Gasol on Howard, which brings Luke Walton to cover Rashard Lewis, which is another mismatch in height. Trevor Ariza will be the X-factor in the 2009 Finals and reason being can he limit Hedo's and Pietrius' production during the finals.
HAHAH i like that. SO true. Sissy touch fouls always called when lebron is on the floor.
i really thought the cavs were goin to go to the finals but the magic showed them there's nothin easy in the playoffs, i think orlando must be playing great from outside if they wanna win against the lakers, howard can't do everything for them cuz we all know the shooting range of dwight howard is like 1 meter away from the basket not any further, i'm not saying he's a bad player, he's strong and powerfull but turkoglu and lewis have to help him
Orlando doesn't have frontcourt that Boston could bring into play, which made Pau's job easier.
if u say lebron does all the work to get his team to the playoffs or win ur wrong..
he gets 5+ assists each game and most people that say he doesnt share the ball look at some game clips i garuntee u that u see him passing and scoring.. so stop saying crap about him if u don't see what he's doing...
they should put Yao in the Cavs. taking a look at the NBA Yao is the only player that can beat Howard pretty much everytime they meet
the only reason they won was cause the ref isnt calling fouls and he wanted magic to win so he wasnt calling shit
no offense...
i'm sick and tired of you people criticizing the play of the cavaliers...
i have so much respect for Orlando... they are really a strong team with a strong lineup... and that's not a case of the Cavaliers being "losers"...
think first before you react...
thanks...
yeah he was getting doubled by the best defensive team in the nba that year
thursday at 9 est on abc
@hec2006 its true but they built a team around him not with him like in la they gave kobe ariza then artest. in denver they gave melo jr and chauncy. they cavs got shaq for a good defensive big man after what happened in this series. they got him jamison which threw of there chemistry big time losing there next 3 games after that 13 game run. they could of got amare but they refused because they cavs wanted hickson to step up. the cavs have some good 3 point shooters but not a solid playoff team
hopefully he can get someone like chris bosh that will be a champioship right there
omg Pietrus is like the best bench player in the league. outscoring the other team's bench and play good defense.
Feel bad for lebron james. either cleveland get in new ppl or lebron should switch teams.
notice i made this comment way back when dwight was in the mvp race and way before the recent drama over getting traded... if you ask me now, two seasons later, i would say kd or rose
how the hell does espn axis work? lol they werent even broadcasting the game lol
the cavs need to get chris bosh a good sidekick for lbj
the thing that really killed the cavs are the 3-point shooting of lewis, turkoglu and pietrus..plus the beast howard!!..they have no players to match these guys,..when dwight was double-teamed magic scores in the perimeter..so thats it, theyre done!!..i believe that they can match the lakers..MAGIC IN 6 OR 7
Cleveland was a paper lion all season long and anyone who knows basketball and wasn't a media mercenary for Nike and David Stern knew that already. They never matched up well with Orlando this season or last year, the Cavs are old in the front court and undersized and light in the back court, and teams win titles, not individuals, but because an entire generation of sports fans have been brainwashed by Stern and Knight they are always shocked when star players can't win by themselves. Hilarious.
i don't know about his comment at 7:43.
delonte west is one of the best perimeter defenders in the nba.
No he is he not lol. Lbj former team mate before called Larry Hughes was a good perimeter
don't laught just yet, i'm not a lakers or a magics fan, but Magics managed to make the Lakers struggle a bit in regular season...so it's too soon to tell just like Cavs-Magic series
Lebron is the "stats" leader, he is not enough of a vocal "team-leader"... He still has growning to do, and I can see him being traded. Lebron will do best on a team with another bonafide super-star that is more vocal/hype because it just isn't in him. He's not a fighter in that way. Congratulating the winning team is about good sportmsanship, and unforntunately for him- he has earned himself a true rival for years. Orlando will not forget that he did that, and will use it to get under his skin.
Wow, you know your stuff. Parker wasn't even part of the team that year. He joined the following year.
Pietrus outscored the entire Cavs bench by hitself this series. NUFF SAID. SMH
i heard the cavs are trying to get chris bosh that would be a good side kick for lebron
yea but now we have shaq and jamison. so i believe cavs have a big chance of takin it dis yr.
he's goin to da nets
u got that right i want the lakers to win cause they beat my fav team cavs
Cleveland: way too small and no big men to get easy baskets.
When your option 2 & 3 are both under 6ft 3, i think you got a problem. Also, believe it or not, Ilgauskas was 33 when he played. Damn, thought he was close to retiring with that performance.
cleveland should have played small ball to counter the magic's spread out offense with howard alone in the low block. even though you'll be making the perimeter defense extremely thin. i would've put 3 guards out there and lebron playing the 4 and verajao playing the 5 or you can cross match. put verajao on rashard lewis and lebron on howard. lebron has the strength and defensive punch and lateral ability to hold howard on the block even though he gives up two or three inches. his freakish length makes up for it. too bad. if mike brown made those adjustments just like how the miami heat did with erik spoelstra. it would've worked MOST likely. speed and the correct use of spacing in sports kills other teams regardless of size sometimes.
they didn't adjust thus leaving bigs out on the perimeter to defend the 3 point line making it no use for them to be on the court in the first place. putting 4 wing players and one traditional big would've been more effective for both ends of the court. it makes sense because i would want a 4th wing player with equal height guarding stretch fours and that can recover to them in time on those specific rotations on defense. having traditional bigs stretched out on the perimeter is just a luxury for the other team (magic) because of the slash and dish and slash and dish or howard post double team comes kick out swing swing for a wide open three. if bigs were out there. rotation speeds would be much slower. but with cleveland down sizing with lebron at the four just gives essentric speed and passing lanes and cuts in the mid post and rotations would be denied with james cat like speed, he'll recover and complete coverages everywhere. and switch on forward or guards because of his elite lateral quickness and strength. using your star player that has that kind of versatility to full potential and meaningful use in all cylinders wil just benefit the team.
Other account Lebron on Howard? You’re a fucking dumbass 😂😭
@davidpfp I don't think so. The Magic will hit from downtown.
cavs are an amazing team that can't be taken away from them. imo lebron has to get the hell away from the cavs if he thinks he going to win a title anytime soon. not this year lebron.
By doing what?
By flopping because he was getting called soft?
Because that's really all he did while defending Howard, flop flop flop to get him into foul trouble and send him to the bench.
And I can't wait for next year. The Spurs/Lakers in the western conference is going to be an amazing matchup, and the Cavs/Magic in the East will be as well.
And Boston, well...they will do okay in the playoffs, but they can't compete with the rest.
ive beeen saying this for a long time lebron needed a high scoring center or power-foward mo williams is good but he wasnt the person i could really count on when things were important