the tinge of irony and loathing is non-existent in this movie. That's the great pleasure and wisdom of it. We do indeed live in times of great latent irony. I think it started in the sixties. Byrne is always a breath of fresh air.
I love this clip so much. "Who can say it isn't beautiful?" Right on. Looking at things idealistically, and finding beauty in the most insignificant places... Also that instrumental of "Dream Operator" really gets me.
@@DrPepperDERF I think many parts of this movie are mistaken for sarcastic when they're intended to be sincere. But who knows? To me, it seems uncomfortably cynical otherwise.
@@KeelyBurnMusic I agree theres a fine line that constantly shifts between sincere and sarcastic and thats one of the reasons I love it so much. His whole performance can be taken either way.
I work a delivery job. all the time I see new housing developments in the state iv lived in my whole life. seeing all these new houses id never be able to afford. knowing so many people moving here, are moving here to get away from the places they came from without realizing theyre just slowly making this place exactly like they place they came from because they miss "home". they all have the same "welcome" signs next to the front door. it makes me sick. im glad they can live such charmed lives where atleast they dont have to worry about the financial securities that weighs on so many of us, unsure what our future is. if theyre retired I can respect that. it means this was where it culminated. You could say I'm jealous but I don't know if its because of where they live. I'd HATE to live in a place like this. If I had a lot of money I'd like to have a good distance from others. Id like to decide when I'm around a bunch of people. I've seen plenty of houses like that too. so needlessly lavish with huge houses and closed gates. I always wonder whats the point of them. I guess to just know you're rich. Like whats the point of all those rooms you never visit. architecture that looks like it was designed by someone whos never had to wipe the crap from their ass. Maybe back in this time and place I wouldn't have such a cynical idea of these sorts of places. I appreciate David's fascination with small town americana. I've lived in the country most of my life. I really appreciated the Talking Heads song Big Country. "I wouldnt live there if you paid me too" I wanted to be near the action, where i thought the "cool" people were, where life was proceeding, near the cities and skyscrapers. and now I'm older and gotten a real taste that the idea of city life really only existing for people above a certain pay grade and social standing. otherwise its just a bunch of desperate frustrated people smushed together in crappy traffic, that incites frustration and extreme anxiety in me I'm looking forward to being more recluse. but as they say Alienation's for the rich, and I'm feeling poorer everyday.
I'm not a carpenter or anything, but the fact that the windows' glass is already installed before any of the walls were near finished doesn't seem right. I like it!
@riffraffselbow According to interviews he is. When he heard reviews mentioning the underlying irony, he was shocked, Byrne was being sincere. Goes to show how people project and associate it with the artist.
@@tgies In regards to the former: I'm looking at it right now and, well, it doesn't really fit the description. The lots are bigger and there's no sidewalks. You sure this is correct? Though, to be fair, I'm not sure if you're talking about the shots from 0:03 to 0:45 or from 0:46 to the end of the video.
@@thetexanhusky I'm talking about this 1:37 minute clip. I lived in Mesquite for a short time in the 90's. It was quite a change from SW Pennsylvania where I grew up. Around here you have rural areas but you hills, trees, creeks, rivers and you have a small town every 5 miles or so. I enjoy riding my bike from town to town and you always find something interesting in each. Mesquite was very suburban and so different. If you wanted to ride your bike somewhere you had travel on 4 lane suburban roads and either head towards the mall or go the other way and after a couple miles it was like civilization just ended and there was nothing. I also remember that it was really flat and all the houses looked the same (light brown spec homes) along with huge privacy fences everywhere that you don't have much up here. It was convenient living in Mesquite back then with the chain restaurants and mall close by but kind of dystopian at the same time. This movie really nailed the feel of the place.
“Of course, nowadays, not everyone’s having kids. Not with, what, the end of the world coming up and all.” This movie totally anticipated Millennial dread back in 1986. That line gets more relevant every day.
@riffraffselbow pontificates: *"..tinged with a huge amount of irony & loathing,.."?* First, "tinged" and "huge amount" are antonyms. Second, where did you see "loathing" in that scene?
David Said that this was not made with irony at all, And that people saying there is irony pisses him off because is what the so called smartass feel about it but then try to put the "blame" on him
They're actually duplex houses with two, two car garages (so, "four car" garage, but not for a single home). You can see front entry doors on each side.
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the tinge of irony and loathing is non-existent in this movie. That's the great pleasure and wisdom of it. We do indeed live in times of great latent irony. I think it started in the sixties. Byrne is always a breath of fresh air.
I love this clip so much. "Who can say it isn't beautiful?" Right on. Looking at things idealistically, and finding beauty in the most insignificant places... Also that instrumental of "Dream Operator" really gets me.
Funny, I interpreted it as sarcastic when he said that, I always laugh when he says that a little
@@DrPepperDERF I think many parts of this movie are mistaken for sarcastic when they're intended to be sincere. But who knows? To me, it seems uncomfortably cynical otherwise.
@@KeelyBurnMusic I agree theres a fine line that constantly shifts between sincere and sarcastic and thats one of the reasons I love it so much. His whole performance can be taken either way.
i'm from dallas-fort worth and this scene always makes me cry
One of the only works I’ve seen that captures the essence of “suburbanism” perfectly
This is my favorite movie scene ever.
It’s amazing but strangely creepy at the same time
I work a delivery job. all the time I see new housing developments in the state iv lived in my whole life. seeing all these new houses id never be able to afford. knowing so many people moving here, are moving here to get away from the places they came from without realizing theyre just slowly making this place exactly like they place they came from because they miss "home".
they all have the same "welcome" signs next to the front door. it makes me sick. im glad they can live such charmed lives where atleast they dont have to worry about the financial securities that weighs on so many of us, unsure what our future is.
if theyre retired I can respect that. it means this was where it culminated.
You could say I'm jealous but I don't know if its because of where they live. I'd HATE to live in a place like this.
If I had a lot of money I'd like to have a good distance from others. Id like to decide when I'm around a bunch of people.
I've seen plenty of houses like that too. so needlessly lavish with huge houses and closed gates. I always wonder whats the point of them. I guess to just know you're rich. Like whats the point of all those rooms you never visit. architecture that looks like it was designed by someone whos never had to wipe the crap from their ass.
Maybe back in this time and place I wouldn't have such a cynical idea of these sorts of places. I appreciate David's fascination with small town americana. I've lived in the country most of my life. I really appreciated the Talking Heads song Big Country. "I wouldnt live there if you paid me too" I wanted to be near the action, where i thought the "cool" people were, where life was proceeding, near the cities and skyscrapers.
and now I'm older and gotten a real taste that the idea of city life really only existing for people above a certain pay grade and social standing. otherwise its just a bunch of desperate frustrated people smushed together in crappy traffic, that incites frustration and extreme anxiety in me
I'm looking forward to being more recluse. but as they say Alienation's for the rich, and I'm feeling poorer everyday.
I'm not a carpenter or anything, but the fact that the windows' glass is already installed before any of the walls were near finished doesn't seem right. I like it!
Those wide two car garages completely dominate the facade of the house. It's like the house is one big garage. Such strange architecture.
And no windows out onto the streets.
I suspect the houses are actually duplexes given the design, hence the garage in the center of a symmetric house
@riffraffselbow According to interviews he is. When he heard reviews mentioning the underlying irony, he was shocked, Byrne was being sincere. Goes to show how people project and associate it with the artist.
David Byrne saw the housing bubble coming decades before Wall Street investors.
music is just perfect here
I have always wanted to climb over those fences, and look in those houses... neighborhoods like these just beg to be explored
He's "punk rock". Sincerity and Irony is a fine line. lol.
Such a great movie/documentary.
Is it okay to cry at this?
normal
This movies a trip
I'm interested in what subdivision this is in the DFW area and see how much has changed since it was filmed.
Dorchester Place in Waxahachie was the site of the unfinished suburbs. The talent show stage was built on the outskirts of this area as well, IIUC
@@tgies In regards to the former: I'm looking at it right now and, well, it doesn't really fit the description. The lots are bigger and there's no sidewalks. You sure this is correct?
Though, to be fair, I'm not sure if you're talking about the shots from 0:03 to 0:45 or from 0:46 to the end of the video.
@@thetexanhusky I could have sworn this was Mesquite in the 1980s, right on the edge
@@dant.6364 Which part of the video? I'm confused.
@@thetexanhusky I'm talking about this 1:37 minute clip. I lived in Mesquite for a short time in the 90's. It was quite a change from SW Pennsylvania where I grew up. Around here you have rural areas but you hills, trees, creeks, rivers and you have a small town every 5 miles or so. I enjoy riding my bike from town to town and you always find something interesting in each. Mesquite was very suburban and so different. If you wanted to ride your bike somewhere you had travel on 4 lane suburban roads and either head towards the mall or go the other way and after a couple miles it was like civilization just ended and there was nothing. I also remember that it was really flat and all the houses looked the same (light brown spec homes) along with huge privacy fences everywhere that you don't have much up here. It was convenient living in Mesquite back then with the chain restaurants and mall close by but kind of dystopian at the same time. This movie really nailed the feel of the place.
In the sticks.
THis was filmed at my grandmothers house
“Of course, nowadays, not everyone’s having kids. Not with, what, the end of the world coming up and all.”
This movie totally anticipated Millennial dread back in 1986. That line gets more relevant every day.
No, dread about the end of the world is normal in history. What's new is thinking that it's a reason (excuse?) not to have children.
The whole scene is tinged with a huge amount irony and loathing, but I can't help but think Byrne really believes what he's saying.
I think that he's just observing what's weird, and the power partly comes from the lack of an editorial slant.
@riffraffselbow pontificates: *"..tinged with a huge amount of irony & loathing,.."?*
First, "tinged" and "huge amount" are antonyms. Second, where did you see "loathing" in that scene?
Muff Diver that comment is from 2011
David Said that this was not made with irony at all, And that people saying there is irony pisses him off because is what the so called smartass feel about it but then try to put the "blame" on him
Four car garages=Excessive.
They're actually duplex houses with two, two car garages (so, "four car" garage, but not for a single home). You can see front entry doors on each side.