You should always drill into the brick; the mortar is not dense enough, and will loosen up and powder crumble over time. Those anchors will become weak. Of course the mortar is easier to drill into, that’s my point. The mortar is a weak substance compared to the brick, thus it will be easy for the screws to loose grip because of powdering. The tv my not fall, but it will develop play, and become unstable and shake easily when touched.
I appreciate your input. There are TVs that have been mounted this way for 20 years with no issues. It's all about the installer and not over tightening anchors to the point that you caused the mortar to deteriorate. You can have the exact same problem with brick.
@@ZipTieNinja you don't over tighten the anchors Also you too lasy to grab a wrench & hand tighten using a Impact & measuring over tightening never works
Thank you! Great job! I'm considering doing this myself. I did not know if I should go into the brick or mortar. Your explanation was very helpful. Keep the great videos coming😊👍
Intrestingly, I find in searching these videos that it's about a 50/50 split of people insisting to anchor in the brick/anchoring in the mortar. So, a noob like me is completely confused.
Mortar should be fine with a flat mount unless it becomes brittle when you are working on it, or if you over drill the holes. If it is an articulating mount, then when the TV is pulled out the effective weight multiplies dramatically and more stress is put on the mounting surface. Even brick may not tolerate that.
I have been a certified bricklayer for 33 years now and I would never anchor into a brick joint! Always Always drill into the brick itself. No matter how old or new the structure is. Just my opinion but I can guarantee that putting your anchors into a joint instead of a solid brick it will eventually loosen up and possibly have the television fall off the wall. Just my 2 cents worth.
Im trying to do this on my back patio but the way the holes are configured on the wall mount has me drilling within half inch of the edge of the brick and that really makes me nervous of cracking. The lag bolts it comes with are large. Directions say to drill three 3/8” holes 2.8” deep then insert the concrete anchors then the lag bolts. I’m really nervous about the whole thing honestly, I don’t want to destroy a brick and have a costly repair.
It's not too bad, as long as you have a hammer drill you should be able to get the job done if it's brick. It might just take a little bit longer than the SDS drill took.
How did you install the boxes in the brick? I paid an electrician to run more outlets in my backyard and instead of putting the box flush with the wall, it sticks out about 3 inches. Are flush mount outlets only during new construction? I am about to hang tv on my house and I want the outlet to be flush with the brick.
You should be able to reuse an old mount, but I keep a lot of parts from the many TV mounts I've done over the years. You may or may not have all the screws, Bolts, Etc that you need
The masonry anchors and lag bolts were supplied with the mount. You can use tapcons, you just have to be a lot more careful to not over drill or over tighten.
@@ZipTieNinja i rather just get lag screws and anchors, seems safer the way you put it, does it matter if im drilling to brick or mortar when the mortar is not flush with the brick? or which should i use? im moutning a 60" tv
It should be okay as long as the anchors go deep into the brick or concrete. I agree, the anchors are superior to tapcons. As in the video, go smaller than you think the holes need to be. You can always make them bigger if you can't get the anchors in.
It was pre-wired that way when the house was built. They wired it from inside the master bedroom, and just poked it out into a box that was built into the brick.
I saw 1st off where you were drilling into the motar and not the brick. I do not advise this as motar will loosen up then your T V will be hanging or in the floor.
It's been over 5 years in the TV has died and been replaced since then. No issues with the mount. It's roulette either way, because I've had bricks come loose from trying to drill them.
I'd guess it could have to do with when the house was built. Construction grade mortar for newer homes is poor quality and the brick isn't solid. Older homes have better quality mortar and a better chance of the brick being solid.
@zip tie ninja @True Star I was lookin at I always put anchor 1.5inch from egde of brick never in the mortar, isn't it dangerous n not secure enough for tv over 40lb? Doesnt drilling into mortar make it crumble n if it's a full motion mount the movement would crumble the mortar over time n make it unsecure has anyone ran into that problem? Or is it safe to put anchor into thr mortar? Please lmk if anyone installed full motion mount into mortar.
I'm not at all concerned with a fixed mount with a modern LCD-TV. I would not recommend an articulating Mount be installed this way because it could wallow out the mortar, or even brick. For an articulating Mount I would recommend first mounting a sheet of plywood and then mounting the mount to the plywood. Or if this was pre-construction, that area could have wood instead of brick.
@@ZipTieNinja so your saying.. mount a sheet of plywood first into mortar? brick first??... then mounting the mount to the plywood?...when you put the mount on the plywood.. are you drilling thru the plywood then the brick?? do you have to change bolts?? sorry for all the questions but I was thinking of doing a full motion hang as well and I need to know as much as I can 🙂
@@lamontepayne9986 I'm about to install the rocketfish full motion mount to our brick sunroom, I'm wondering the same. Lowe's recommended tap on screws rather than concrete anchors. How did yours turn out?
I've run into problems before when drilling into brick the mortar loosening up. The Packers are about the width of the mortar, so they're pretty much being squeezed by the brick.
You lost me the minute you said start with smaller bit? Start with the bit size recommended for the anchor you use. If it is smaller than recommended and the anchor fits you run higher risk of splitting the morter/brick. If it is too big then you lose capacity.
Well, since they didn't define the size of the bit to use, I made the right choice. You can always make a hole bigger, not smaller. Had I gone bigger, it would have been too big.
You should always drill into the brick; the mortar is not dense enough, and will loosen up and powder crumble over time. Those anchors will become weak. Of course the mortar is easier to drill into, that’s my point. The mortar is a weak substance compared to the brick, thus it will be easy for the screws to loose grip because of powdering. The tv my not fall, but it will develop play, and become unstable and shake easily when touched.
I appreciate your input. There are TVs that have been mounted this way for 20 years with no issues. It's all about the installer and not over tightening anchors to the point that you caused the mortar to deteriorate. You can have the exact same problem with brick.
I’ve always been told never to drill into brick as this would eventually cause cracking in the brick?
The builder on my house told me to drill into mortar
Mortar is repairable. Brick is replaceable.
@@ZipTieNinja you don't over tighten the anchors
Also you too lasy to grab a wrench & hand tighten using a Impact & measuring over tightening never works
I'm glad to hear the cameraman was breathing.
I might have mentioned it to him... 😉
Thank you! Great job! I'm considering doing this myself. I did not know if I should go into the brick or mortar. Your explanation was very helpful. Keep the great videos coming😊👍
Brick morter fails after time
Intrestingly, I find in searching these videos that it's about a 50/50 split of people insisting to anchor in the brick/anchoring in the mortar. So, a noob like me is completely confused.
Mortar should be fine with a flat mount unless it becomes brittle when you are working on it, or if you over drill the holes. If it is an articulating mount, then when the TV is pulled out the effective weight multiplies dramatically and more stress is put on the mounting surface. Even brick may not tolerate that.
Always use the brick never the mortar
brick only, these mortar people are the real noobs, at least you know better and are smart enough to ask ask again
Don't listen to these haters. That's exactly how to do it! Nice Job!
Drill in the brick.
I have been a certified bricklayer for 33 years now and I would never anchor into a brick joint! Always Always drill into the brick itself. No matter how old or new the structure is. Just my opinion but I can guarantee that putting your anchors into a joint instead of a solid brick it will eventually loosen up and possibly have the television fall off the wall. Just my 2 cents worth.
I do appreciate your opinion. I've actually had bricks come loose from drilling them too, so I kind of feel like it's a toss-up.
Im trying to do this on my back patio but the way the holes are configured on the wall mount has me drilling within half inch of the edge of the brick and that really makes me nervous of cracking. The lag bolts it comes with are large. Directions say to drill three 3/8” holes 2.8” deep then insert the concrete anchors then the lag bolts. I’m really nervous about the whole thing honestly, I don’t want to destroy a brick and have a costly repair.
It is a risk, but the slower you take it and the more you let things cool off as you go to the better success you will have.
I wanna hang my 50 inch above the fireplace but with a regular 18v drill & my lack of handyman skills I'm starting to have 2nd thoughts lol
It's not too bad, as long as you have a hammer drill you should be able to get the job done if it's brick. It might just take a little bit longer than the SDS drill took.
Yeah hammer drill will do the job mate
Do you need some sort of epoxy or adhesive for the anchor? Saw another video mention an “adhesive”?
I have never used adhesive for these applications
How did you install the boxes in the brick? I paid an electrician to run more outlets in my backyard and instead of putting the box flush with the wall, it sticks out about 3 inches. Are flush mount outlets only during new construction? I am about to hang tv on my house and I want the outlet to be flush with the brick.
Yes, they put them in when the house was built. it would be very difficult to retrofit
What size bit was that
Is there a reason you didn’t drill into the brick? Thanks
You can certainly drill into the brick. Just make sure you don't drill too big a hole. The anchor needs to be tight.
@@ZipTieNinja Thanks. Can I drill into the brick and just use a concrete screw and drive it straight into the brick?
I want to mount my old TV outside I hope I don't break nothing. I always mess up things.
Good luck!
Sir, which size screws and anchor did you for brick wall? I have quarter inch wood panels on the wall then bricks behind it
The mortar anchors and lag bolts came with the mount. If yours did not, you will likely have to do something a bit different. Redheads work very well
That's pretty good Tye Wrap Ninja!
Thanks, D.
If it's a small tv (50 inch or less) mortar is fine. If TV is 55 inch - 90 inch I'd drill into brick only.
Incredible appreciate your time 👍😉
Thanks!
Love your picture
Dude has a super pro expensive hammer drill then drills into the damn mortar
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how bout split face brick? drill brick or mortar?
good to see his wearing eye protection
Hey I have a TV mount just like that already but it's worn out can I still use the same stuff you used or do I need to replace it
You should be able to reuse an old mount, but I keep a lot of parts from the many TV mounts I've done over the years. You may or may not have all the screws, Bolts, Etc that you need
What are the name of the screws and anchors you used? Or could I just get metal anchors for my tapcon screws ?
The masonry anchors and lag bolts were supplied with the mount. You can use tapcons, you just have to be a lot more careful to not over drill or over tighten.
@@ZipTieNinja i rather just get lag screws and anchors, seems safer the way you put it, does it matter if im drilling to brick or mortar when the mortar is not flush with the brick? or which should i use? im moutning a 60" tv
It should be okay as long as the anchors go deep into the brick or concrete. I agree, the anchors are superior to tapcons. As in the video, go smaller than you think the holes need to be. You can always make them bigger if you can't get the anchors in.
@@ZipTieNinja I mounted the tv thanks to your help! Thank you for your prompt feedback also.
Do I need a hammer drill or can I use a standard Ryobi we use around the house?
How did you run power and that jbox so cleanly?
It was pre-wired that way when the house was built. They wired it from inside the master bedroom, and just poked it out into a box that was built into the brick.
I saw 1st off where you were drilling into the motar and not the brick. I do not advise this as motar will loosen up then your T V will be hanging or in the floor.
It's been over 5 years in the TV has died and been replaced since then. No issues with the mount. It's roulette either way, because I've had bricks come loose from trying to drill them.
You don't need a "depth meter" just paint marker your drill bit.
True, but if you've got it, why not use it?
What happens when you reach for the marker and the ink is dry? Depth meters are not stupid man, markers are 😂
Dude, wear safety glasses when drilling into brick.
How bout extenders to fix your lean issue?
I'd guess it could have to do with when the house was built. Construction grade mortar for newer homes is poor quality and the brick isn't solid. Older homes have better quality mortar and a better chance of the brick being solid.
What do you recommend if the surface of the brick isn’t level?
You could put some washers behind the mount, on the bolts, to try to level it out.
Shims
good tye wrap ninja
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@zip tie ninja
@True Star
I was lookin at I always put anchor 1.5inch from egde of brick never in the mortar, isn't it dangerous n not secure enough for tv over 40lb? Doesnt drilling into mortar make it crumble n if it's a full motion mount the movement would crumble the mortar over time n make it unsecure has anyone ran into that problem? Or is it safe to put anchor into thr mortar? Please lmk if anyone installed full motion mount into mortar.
I'm not at all concerned with a fixed mount with a modern LCD-TV. I would not recommend an articulating Mount be installed this way because it could wallow out the mortar, or even brick. For an articulating Mount I would recommend first mounting a sheet of plywood and then mounting the mount to the plywood. Or if this was pre-construction, that area could have wood instead of brick.
@@ZipTieNinja so your saying.. mount a sheet of plywood first into mortar? brick first??... then mounting the mount to the plywood?...when you put the mount on the plywood.. are you drilling thru the plywood then the brick?? do you have to change bolts?? sorry for all the questions but I was thinking of doing a full motion hang as well and I need to know as much as I can 🙂
@@lamontepayne9986 I'm about to install the rocketfish full motion mount to our brick sunroom, I'm wondering the same. Lowe's recommended tap on screws rather than concrete anchors. How did yours turn out?
Where's your eye protection?
why right into the mortar?
I've run into problems before when drilling into brick the mortar loosening up. The Packers are about the width of the mortar, so they're pretty much being squeezed by the brick.
Do you have a video showing how you put that electrical outlet outdoors?
The electrical was pre-wired when the house was built.
@@ZipTieNinja
Ok, got it
What diameter drill bit did you start with? 5/16”?
We used 3/8” for our setup
Did you use mortar anchors?
What kind of dewalt hammer you using
The Dewalt DCH133B amzn.to/2F2qWxx
watching atm
chrome sockets on an impact driver?
Sometimes you got to work with what you have on hand...😉
I mean it worked, so what's the big deal?
Hope you don't get any water out there. Water is going to loosen up TV is going to fall in your head
🤣 Covered Patio.
You lost me the minute you said start with smaller bit? Start with the bit size recommended for the anchor you use. If it is smaller than recommended and the anchor fits you run higher risk of splitting the morter/brick. If it is too big then you lose capacity.
Well, since they didn't define the size of the bit to use, I made the right choice. You can always make a hole bigger, not smaller. Had I gone bigger, it would have been too big.