Discovering the Path of Right Effort: the Power of Giving Up
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Right Effort in Buddhist practice has four aspects. The second aspect is that of "giving up". What does this mean and how can we put it into practice?
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00:00 Intro
00:52 Longer description of the effort to give up
02:22 Mindfulness and “giving up”
04:22 Practicing to give up greed
09:16 Practicing to give up ill will
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It took me over 40 years to get over self hatred, but I got there eventually. Let it go. It's no rush, but consider it. Get creative if you have to.
im in my 30s and hope to follow in your footsteps. Self-loathing is a hell of a drug
@@Giantcrabz A friend of mine told me to think of myself as another person. I didn't get it at first. It took me a while. I've even heard someone say you should think of yourself like a puppy that's misbehaved. Like, you wouldn't hold that kind of anger towards a puppy.
Yes, it's a hard road sometimes. 🙏
'Get creative if you have to'
I think that is quite important to note. The usual meditation advices (even from good teachers) are quite 'generic' in a way, because they need to address the smallest common denominator. With creativity though, we can sometimes derive methods for our specific problems from the generic advices.
@@mapro3948 I think people will be more receptive of things if they make it their own. Think of it like a template.
Beautiful and detailed teachings. I learned alot. Namo Buddhaya 🙏
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Love and peace from Germany! ❤
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Seem like Right effort is to help maintain the Right Thought
I feel this practice especially the part about giving up unwholesome or negative mental traits is similar to behavior modification therapy
Yes I agree.
Yeah, I was about to say, bold of that one guy to assume that I wish good things on myself 😅 I've gotten better at it over time though, along with how I've gotten better at it regarding other people. And I've got all the time in the world :)
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Hello from Bodh Gaya!
I think people would generally find Vitakkasaṇṭhāna Sutta (MN 20) helpful in this case. In this sutta, the Buddha provides an escalating series of interventions for unskillful thoughts, starting with simple thought replacement, to considering its downsides, all the way up to what some might call thought suppression, if all else fails.
Yes I did a video on that sutta awhile back: Removing Negative Thoughts: Five Early Buddhist Techniques
ruclips.net/video/FHu6VG5r7vA/видео.html
Oh, we get a whole series on Right Effort! Thank you so much, Doug!
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It's kinda amazing / funny how often Doug drops an exposition of the Dharma that I happen to need right now in my life.
I am severely depressed, and take ketamine lozenges to help me heal my distorted thinking. it lets me temporarily step back from my "self". I find great comfort in letting go of attachments to particular harmful views or relationships or possessions... things that keep the depression cycle spinning. I am an atheist, but I pray somehow that all sentient beings find the path towards liberation and peace.
Suffering sometimes teaches and empowers us in a Nietzschean (sp?) sense, but other times it just hurts for no good reason! And there is no greater joy for me than to remove the suffering of others through kindness. Through giving to people, and giving up my greed, hatred, and delusions. Even in desperate and scary political situations, I can still be kind, and nobody can take that away from me.
So I say to my depression, that dark fog that annihilates meaning and joy -- get thee behind me! I deserve to be here and feel like l am not broken. And so do all beings
🙏🙏 Each of us is different, but I've found that meditation and exercise are good antidotes, as is just generally keeping busy.
Nice video! Thank you. Regarding extending metta to oneself, I used to think along similar lines as you but recently have changed my viewpoint. First of all, from a wisdom perspective, logically we know that we are to a degree connected with others. If we have a modicum of equanimity then we know our perceived self is on an equal plane with all other beings. Then, we are attempting in a Buddhist practice to develop our wisdom/compassion to the infinite Buddha level which would somehow mean that in our interconnected state, we would relieve suffering and its causes for all beings. As I currently don’t have the ability to work on the state of compassion directly in other’s hearts and minds- I only have access to my own mind- it seems like it is very, very important to develop compassion and kindness towards myself so that I can extend it more fully into the world that seems to be outside of myself. The intention to benefit all beings is the factor that mitigates self compassion from turning into selfishness- but I admit it does take balancing with renunciation towards worldly concerns and being aware of greed, and ill will and other states that lead away from liberation. Shifting toward self compassion and self love and kindness has been transformative in my practice. It leads to a more gentle state, less grasping toward views which then opens me up to a greater degree of flexibility in my practice on and off the mat. I highly recommend trying more gentle self love directed at yourself as you are noticing the states and experiences that arise and pass away. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
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Meditation and dhamma study have really helped to curb my retail therapy tendencies. It's also made me more aware of just how much suffering is caused by material existence.
Yes, thanks!
Sometimes you gotta give up on the effort of giving up
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Hi Dough,
you should make a video where John Watson has a discourse with the buddha about the mind, that would be interesting.
Thank you
Thanks for another excellent talk Doug. It gave me lots to think about. And loving-kindness is amazingly helpful, especially with those difficult characters in our lives. It can really soften your dislike over time. But I’ve always, without trouble at all, been OK with wishing myself loving-kindness too, maybe because it was a part of my practice from day one.
Yes, thanks it's pretty standard practice to include ourselves nowadays. 🙏😊
The sense of self as an object gives rise to the illusion of other objects. In turn this creates the imagined space and therefore time, leading to a path, a path that leads from here to a there. A progression of attaining and learning. Or spiritual development. But as the self, the origins of all this, is itself fictitious, so therfore is any path.
Doug -very good summary . “When having a sensuous thought , one thinks. “I am having a sensuous thought . This is the correct way , any other is not “
There is a good collection that Jason Espasa narrates called “Discourses of the Buddha “ on RUclips
that is just a series of dharma talks - it hits right effort - mindfulness irs relaxing to listen to and a “good effort “ by Jason
Your video is Right Effort ❤
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Lovely thank you
Doug Smith, we love your videos. Please make them longer and more frequent if it is possible.
Thanks for the encouragement, I try to keep them at the length and frequency that the audience appreciates. 🙏
Doug Smith, we love your videos, make them as long or short, shallow or deep as the Tao moves you 😂
Thank you very much❤
You're very welcome! 😊
Thank you again for another great video, I recently started my journey down the path and your videos have really helped me understand some of confusion I had going on, I've also added some of the books you've suggested to my audible and join my local temple which I didn't even realize my city had. So thank you again P.S. will be added your book as well
Wonderful!
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Mindfulness works like a surveillance system, it allows you to become an observer of your thoughts. Observed behavior is typically at its best since it is subject to scrutiny. Nobody can live with a well reflecting mind, while also observing bad behavior. This cognitive dissonance would drive a person to insanity.
Yes, so long as we hold this "surveillance" lightly. Otherwise it can become burdensome and may lead to spiritual bypassing.
@DougsDharma wise words, I agree. I have a rule don't sweat the small stuff. When you die it's all small stuff 😆
@DougsDharma you don't want to try to run away from problems. Face them as they come
We are so lucky to see these teachings. Chan master YongHua makes fun of mindfulness practice. Chan master YongHua says PHD is no good.
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A buddhistic person told me once that giving away things you don't need, comes with a negative energy. You give someone something that is unwanted by you. I told this person, that notion is hogwash.
Yes that doesn't make sense to me, unless you know the thing is somehow dangerous or harmful.
I mean, if you're giving people dirty drawers or somethin... I don't know LOL
These are the thirty-two parts of the body (with Pali translations), it is worthwhile to memorize them:
Head hair, Body hair, Nails, Teeth, Skin
(Kesa, Loma, Nakkha, Danta, Taco)
Flesh, Sinews, Bones, Bone Marrow, Kidneys
(Masam, Naharu, Atthi, Atthiminjam, Vakkam)
Heart, Liver, Diaphragm, Spleen, Lungs
(Hadayam, Yakanam, Kilomakam, Pihakam, Papphasam)
Large Intestine, Small Intestine, Stomach, Feces, Brain
(Antam, Antagunam, Udariam, Kerisam, Mattagunam)
Bile, Phlegm, Pus, Blood, Sweat, Fat
(Pittam, Semhan, Pubbo, Lohitam, Sedo, Medo)
Tears, Grease, Saliva, Mucus, Oil of the Joints, Urine
(Assu, Vasa, Kelo, Singhanika, Lasika, Muttam)
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This is so ascetic... I think the Buddhadhamma, specially old texts, is too ascetic for our time. Ironically, it was not ascetic for its time. Mahayana practice is sometimes too esoteric. We should give it all up rather than healthy human psychology. Anger is not unhealthy or evil, it is important to accept that human emotions are not fetters that impede some arcane proccess to which there is zero evidence, such as Nibbana. It would be better for us to take care of ourselves realistically and learn the good way of dealing with normal human condition
Sure, it isn’t for everyone.