T1 is so bad at drafts its actually impressive. They seem to think their talent alone can win them games even if they choose the worst team comps imaginable.
tenma their old and new coach said that he is gonna change the draft cause they were strugling to make finals, t1 would probbably play something different but they need to lisetn to their coach
It's honestly insane that since Kkoma returned, the drafts are getting progressively worse and drafting has been T1's issue for at least 3 years now, ignoring crucial picks and bans because they think their raw talent and mechanics can outplay a draft disadvantage and its clearly not working because better teams have simply figured their playstyle out. I don't think they are doomed entirely, they always turn it on when life's on the line and seeing how braindead KT and DK is it's genuinely impossible for them to miss out on Worlds, where they will do at least a Quarters finish as per usual, but that is factually failure for a defending world champion roster and T1 in general, big changes will happen next offseason.
While I agree with a lot of your points, there are a few things that seem to be misunderstood or just plain wrong. One of the things you repeated constantly is that this is a bad year for Faker, not just a bad Summer split; definitely not true. Spring he was the 2nd best mid in LCK behind Chovy in stats, first in some even (or last for jg presence and resources) and was one of the biggest reasons T1 took Gen G. to 5 games in Finals. Stats show it, casters and analysts show and confirm it. Spring he was good, period. MSI and some of EWC he was shaky, but still putting in work. Summer he just fell off hard, which has a been a trend for about 3-4 years now for some reason. It is what it is, I suppose. Secondly, there is no reason to believe T1 is doomed in regards to Worlds. Not taking into account the "intangible" Worlds buff they get, which is literally just clutch factor, KT is the only team that stands to give T1 trouble in the gauntlet. And even then it's a coinflip at best. There seems to be some miscommunication in basically every part of T1's team, especially their drafts, AGAIN. I don't know how this happens for 3 years of this roster unless it's literally just them brainstorming constantly and coming to conclusions that, more often than not, just don't work. Is it possible T1 don't make Worlds? Of course, there is always a possibility. If we look at their form against the teams in the gauntlet and the top 2 teams, T1 looks ahead of the rest of the group, regardless of how much they struggled. Let's assume they make it to Worlds: They won't make a deep run? Or have any success? (I forget how you worded it) That's also unfounded. (Especially having TL or G2 over them) I will give you this: TL have looked far more consistent in terms of Western teams, but we've seen them at their best and T1 at a low point and T1 still came out on top. G2 is literally being handed free wins on some of the most atrocious League played in Western finals and playoffs. To take G2 over T1 is insane lol Do I believe with what we have seen that T1 will win Worlds? No. They arguably look about as bad, but not literally, as last Summer where they pulled off the miracle run to get to Worlds after looking like the worst team in the LCK. And even when the meta was not favoring them, which was until End of Swiss stage against BLG, they switched to Senna-esque drafts. Then, when they showed how it could be played, other top teams: JDG, WBG, LNG, Gen G. namely, copied and took the meta to T1, which was heavily in their favor. Most of what you said I agree with, but some of it is just blatantly wrong. Some of it seems to be recent bias which has been shown, last 2 Worlds, to mean nothing. If T1 don't make Worlds, then these conversations can be had with some level of truth. But unless that happens, there is no basis for it.
T1 2022 MSI Finals: Faker and Oner revert back to Wukong/Ahri (in spite of the known Lee Sin/Lissandra counterpick); Zeus locks in Jayce vs. Bin’s Gwen. Somehow their botlane turns into Jhin/Yuumi against Tristana/Rakan of RNG (Keria dies level 1 due to Rakan W and Guma loses flash). T1 Worlds 2022: T1 opts to leave Aatrox open and pick Zeus’ Gwen counterpick. For some reason Faker, an excellent Azir player, picks Viktor. They also hand Caitlyn, a signature T1 pick, to Deft. They relegate Gumayusi to HoB/Poke Varus even though he is visibly more comfortable with LT Varus. Understandably, he had to go poke Varus to match Caitlyn’s push and allow Viego to stomp Pyosik’s Hecarim. T1 2024 Lower Finals LCK: T1 leaves Smolder open for 4 games, they manage to get away with 1 game (I truly believe that series was a 4-0 for HLE). T1 insists on picking Ziggs for Gumayusi. Here are my two cents. Losing Lethal Tempo shifted the ADC meta. Gumayusi was heavily reliant on auto attack champions (LT Varus, Jinx, Xayah) and Aphelios is out of the meta. Guma was never a big Zeri player and his Ezreal is not the same level as Peyz or Viper. With Ziggs being a meta pick, Gen G and HLE was able to answer it with Jhin and Kai’sa. For some reason, T1 decides it’s better for Guma to just pick Ziggs. I think it would have been better for T1 to let HLE pick Ziggs and answer with Guma’s Jhin (remember Worlds 2021 T1 vs. DK). Zeus should have been given Camille, GP, Jax, or Gnar. His Zeri was invisible. Let’s make it worse by letting Delight pick Poppy. Oner wasn’t able to cover the dives the HLE executed. Why not snatch away from Poppy from Delight and let Oner use it in Jungle? Keria and Faker were outmatched and outclassed. For T1 to make it to Worlds (and win Worlds 2024), they need to make draft changes and game plan revisions. With the ADC mid nerfs, mid will probably revert back to mages. ADC might be split (Ashe, Jhin, Varus, Zeri). Hopefully Support entertains more ranged champs (with the Lulu buffs - might also allow Lulu/Aphelios). Top will enable Jayce to get picked up but Ksante will still be present.
T1 and Faker bring viewers. The highest views in LCK alone are their games. If they will not be qualified for Worlds, im pretty sure viewership will be affected too. Even content creators keep on mentioning them because they know that it will attract views. Whether you agree or not, the absence of Faker when he retire will affect not just LCK but the whole League of Legends. Yes he is not the best and the strongest, he admitted that too but if you have followed this game from the start, you'll also know that most of the game play of other players are orginally from Faker, it was even mentioned before that coaches ask their players to watch the video of Faker's games. He is the inspiration of most pro gamers. T1 and Faker are no longer the best , but Faker is known to clutch his games, so things can still change. His hands are still recovering, and I think people should respect the OG. Talk shit on him and his team if your team has already accomplished what his team has accomplished.
Oh no no this guy jinxed it again. Last year was the exact same shit choking in Summer only to dominate worlds and run the LPL gauntlet. I can't believe people are doing it again T1 always shows up for worlds they are the face of LoL after all. You do NOT underestimate T1 at worlds it is just INSANE that sb is doing this again after last year.
T1's current roster is done but I feel like with the free agency craziness next season I feel like T1 is gonna cook, maybe do a 2015 and find a talented mid to play and sub with Faker
Who the fuck could think T1 is in good shape when Faker's struggling with repetitive stress injury? They've been a ticking timebomb for a while, and them not qualifying for Worlds this year would be a blessing.
With the exception of Oner, I can't confidently say this team would benefit from another roster shakeup. And like you said, the champs he's being put on are less than ideal to boot. Zeus is the reigning worlds MVP, Guma is arguably the best adc itw, Keria is Keria, and Faker is the goat. Let's not forget how awful these 4 were when Faker got injured a little while back, and how night and day they were when he returned. Of course, he is playing considerably worse now than he was then, his form has slumped pretty hard. There is no way to be certain roster moves wouldn't help them, or even coaching/staff moves, but its hard to conceptually improve a team that is so damn good on paper. Maybe this meta is just really bad for them, of their staff has a poor read on what's good rn. Either way, this team is not nearly as good as it should be, and it shows in their play. They look lost. Should they even qualify, they will crash out at worlds if they don't get it together soon
oner has been 1v9 carrying this team the whole year and even in worlds he was the most consistent best player on the team. idk how the fuck is he this criminally underrated by t1 fans
i personally think that oner has overtime became overrated. yes he has amazing mechanics but this guy doesn't have the macro to be put on a top 10 all time list and isn't close to as good as peanut or kanavi etc.
theyre bad just early enough to barely qualify for worlds and win the thing tho. youre jinxing the t1 downfall with this video man. we dont get to see t1 fanboys cope and mald for months. tho im happy either way i love to see faker and oner win but i love watching t1 fanboys lose their minds and spam death threats at anyone who disagrees with them
they almost did tho. and tl is better now than they were then, and t1 is worse. in t1 current form team liquid can beat them absolutely. its not a crazy thing to say if you actually watch all their games
@@yihadistxdl951TL lost against fly qeust who got 17 minute game against T1 its a fluke that TL got a game against t1 in ewc, TL is definetly the best team in the west but they still cant compare tot he asian teams not t1 not wbg not any lower seed barely even pcs
@@sebastijansimunovic2973 they didnt show up in form? they literally threw the game giga hard and lost because of that. they literally would have won if hans bought ldr thats whats funny
T1 is so bad at drafts its actually impressive. They seem to think their talent alone can win them games even if they choose the worst team comps imaginable.
tenma their old and new coach said that he is gonna change the draft cause they were strugling to make finals, t1 would probbably play something different but they need to lisetn to their coach
Well this aged like wine.
welcome back kkOma! 2024!
It's honestly insane that since Kkoma returned, the drafts are getting progressively worse and drafting has been T1's issue for at least 3 years now, ignoring crucial picks and bans because they think their raw talent and mechanics can outplay a draft disadvantage and its clearly not working because better teams have simply figured their playstyle out.
I don't think they are doomed entirely, they always turn it on when life's on the line and seeing how braindead KT and DK is it's genuinely impossible for them to miss out on Worlds, where they will do at least a Quarters finish as per usual, but that is factually failure for a defending world champion roster and T1 in general, big changes will happen next offseason.
While I agree with a lot of your points, there are a few things that seem to be misunderstood or just plain wrong. One of the things you repeated constantly is that this is a bad year for Faker, not just a bad Summer split; definitely not true. Spring he was the 2nd best mid in LCK behind Chovy in stats, first in some even (or last for jg presence and resources) and was one of the biggest reasons T1 took Gen G. to 5 games in Finals. Stats show it, casters and analysts show and confirm it. Spring he was good, period. MSI and some of EWC he was shaky, but still putting in work. Summer he just fell off hard, which has a been a trend for about 3-4 years now for some reason. It is what it is, I suppose. Secondly, there is no reason to believe T1 is doomed in regards to Worlds. Not taking into account the "intangible" Worlds buff they get, which is literally just clutch factor, KT is the only team that stands to give T1 trouble in the gauntlet. And even then it's a coinflip at best. There seems to be some miscommunication in basically every part of T1's team, especially their drafts, AGAIN. I don't know how this happens for 3 years of this roster unless it's literally just them brainstorming constantly and coming to conclusions that, more often than not, just don't work. Is it possible T1 don't make Worlds? Of course, there is always a possibility. If we look at their form against the teams in the gauntlet and the top 2 teams, T1 looks ahead of the rest of the group, regardless of how much they struggled. Let's assume they make it to Worlds: They won't make a deep run? Or have any success? (I forget how you worded it) That's also unfounded. (Especially having TL or G2 over them) I will give you this: TL have looked far more consistent in terms of Western teams, but we've seen them at their best and T1 at a low point and T1 still came out on top. G2 is literally being handed free wins on some of the most atrocious League played in Western finals and playoffs. To take G2 over T1 is insane lol Do I believe with what we have seen that T1 will win Worlds? No. They arguably look about as bad, but not literally, as last Summer where they pulled off the miracle run to get to Worlds after looking like the worst team in the LCK. And even when the meta was not favoring them, which was until End of Swiss stage against BLG, they switched to Senna-esque drafts. Then, when they showed how it could be played, other top teams: JDG, WBG, LNG, Gen G. namely, copied and took the meta to T1, which was heavily in their favor. Most of what you said I agree with, but some of it is just blatantly wrong. Some of it seems to be recent bias which has been shown, last 2 Worlds, to mean nothing. If T1 don't make Worlds, then these conversations can be had with some level of truth. But unless that happens, there is no basis for it.
Preaching to the choir.
T1 2022 MSI Finals: Faker and Oner revert back to Wukong/Ahri (in spite of the known Lee Sin/Lissandra counterpick); Zeus locks in Jayce vs. Bin’s Gwen. Somehow their botlane turns into Jhin/Yuumi against Tristana/Rakan of RNG (Keria dies level 1 due to Rakan W and Guma loses flash).
T1 Worlds 2022: T1 opts to leave Aatrox open and pick Zeus’ Gwen counterpick. For some reason Faker, an excellent Azir player, picks Viktor. They also hand Caitlyn, a signature T1 pick, to Deft. They relegate Gumayusi to HoB/Poke Varus even though he is visibly more comfortable with LT Varus. Understandably, he had to go poke Varus to match Caitlyn’s push and allow Viego to stomp Pyosik’s Hecarim.
T1 2024 Lower Finals LCK: T1 leaves Smolder open for 4 games, they manage to get away with 1 game (I truly believe that series was a 4-0 for HLE). T1 insists on picking Ziggs for Gumayusi.
Here are my two cents. Losing Lethal Tempo shifted the ADC meta. Gumayusi was heavily reliant on auto attack champions (LT Varus, Jinx, Xayah) and Aphelios is out of the meta. Guma was never a big Zeri player and his Ezreal is not the same level as Peyz or Viper. With Ziggs being a meta pick, Gen G and HLE was able to answer it with Jhin and Kai’sa. For some reason, T1 decides it’s better for Guma to just pick Ziggs. I think it would have been better for T1 to let HLE pick Ziggs and answer with Guma’s Jhin (remember Worlds 2021 T1 vs. DK).
Zeus should have been given Camille, GP, Jax, or Gnar. His Zeri was invisible. Let’s make it worse by letting Delight pick Poppy.
Oner wasn’t able to cover the dives the HLE executed. Why not snatch away from Poppy from Delight and let Oner use it in Jungle?
Keria and Faker were outmatched and outclassed.
For T1 to make it to Worlds (and win Worlds 2024), they need to make draft changes and game plan revisions. With the ADC mid nerfs, mid will probably revert back to mages. ADC might be split (Ashe, Jhin, Varus, Zeri). Hopefully Support entertains more ranged champs (with the Lulu buffs - might also allow Lulu/Aphelios). Top will enable Jayce to get picked up but Ksante will still be present.
Bro is gonna eat his worlds as soon as the worlds patch drops
T1 and Faker bring viewers. The highest views in LCK alone are their games. If they will not be qualified for Worlds, im pretty sure viewership will be affected too. Even content creators keep on mentioning them because they know that it will attract views. Whether you agree or not, the absence of Faker when he retire will affect not just LCK but the whole League of Legends. Yes he is not the best and the strongest, he admitted that too but if you have followed this game from the start, you'll also know that most of the game play of other players are orginally from Faker, it was even mentioned before that coaches ask their players to watch the video of Faker's games. He is the inspiration of most pro gamers. T1 and Faker are no longer the best , but Faker is known to clutch his games, so things can still change. His hands are still recovering, and I think people should respect the OG. Talk shit on him and his team if your team has already accomplished what his team has accomplished.
Oh no no this guy jinxed it again. Last year was the exact same shit choking in Summer only to dominate worlds and run the LPL gauntlet. I can't believe people are doing it again T1 always shows up for worlds they are the face of LoL after all. You do NOT underestimate T1 at worlds it is just INSANE that sb is doing this again after last year.
Nothing you say can be taken seriously when you have that pfp. Please erase it and spare us the horror
lmao no, they're gonna get shit on,, this isn'''t like last year
Thats the thing we can't be certain for sure. The last two worlds winners were not big favorites comming in. @@tridinh1011
T1's current roster is done but I feel like with the free agency craziness next season I feel like T1 is gonna cook, maybe do a 2015 and find a talented mid to play and sub with Faker
Great video man, would you ever consider making a discord server for league fans who like discussing these kinds of topics?
Who the fuck could think T1 is in good shape when Faker's struggling with repetitive stress injury? They've been a ticking timebomb for a while, and them not qualifying for Worlds this year would be a blessing.
I think u're forgetting the EWC
Can you comment on the "TL best team in the west" statement you made
ain't no way you just said TL would compete with T1 at worlds
I hate their drafts let faker pull out the zed,get guma in xayah or kaisa,put Zeus on Camille and free win
HLE should’ve won all three games the game where Faker clutched was just luck.
Luck is just an excuse
T1 DOWNFALL PACKWATCH RIPBOZO
With the exception of Oner, I can't confidently say this team would benefit from another roster shakeup. And like you said, the champs he's being put on are less than ideal to boot. Zeus is the reigning worlds MVP, Guma is arguably the best adc itw, Keria is Keria, and Faker is the goat. Let's not forget how awful these 4 were when Faker got injured a little while back, and how night and day they were when he returned. Of course, he is playing considerably worse now than he was then, his form has slumped pretty hard. There is no way to be certain roster moves wouldn't help them, or even coaching/staff moves, but its hard to conceptually improve a team that is so damn good on paper. Maybe this meta is just really bad for them, of their staff has a poor read on what's good rn. Either way, this team is not nearly as good as it should be, and it shows in their play. They look lost. Should they even qualify, they will crash out at worlds if they don't get it together soon
oner has been 1v9 carrying this team the whole year and even in worlds he was the most consistent best player on the team. idk how the fuck is he this criminally underrated by t1 fans
@@yihadistxdl951 oh look we underrate criminally guma who has been consistent for 2 and half years
@@sebastijansimunovic2973 theyre all amazing players theyre just kind of all collectively underperforming as a team rn except for oner and guma
ofc people gonna farm t1
I mean T1 fanbase is not comparable to any. Just look at the difference in views
ok doen't t1 just have to win against dk or kt/fear x to go to worlds? how is that not a guarantee? both those are free
i personally think that oner has overtime became overrated. yes he has amazing mechanics but this guy doesn't have the macro to be put on a top 10 all time list and isn't close to as good as peanut or kanavi etc.
Idk man worlds meta is the t1 meta. Riot making sure their esport baby look good as usual
You know they nerfed 13 of the 15 most present champs in pro play not any target buffing u delusional conspiracy theorist.
theyre bad just early enough to barely qualify for worlds and win the thing tho. youre jinxing the t1 downfall with this video man. we dont get to see t1 fanboys cope and mald for months. tho im happy either way i love to see faker and oner win but i love watching t1 fanboys lose their minds and spam death threats at anyone who disagrees with them
you are tarded ngl saying that TL could beat T1 hahahahah ur special man
they almost did tho. and tl is better now than they were then, and t1 is worse. in t1 current form team liquid can beat them absolutely. its not a crazy thing to say if you actually watch all their games
@@yihadistxdl951TL lost against fly qeust who got 17 minute game against T1 its a fluke that TL got a game against t1 in ewc, TL is definetly the best team in the west but they still cant compare tot he asian teams not t1 not wbg not any lower seed barely even pcs
@@pannkaka5138 g2 can beat t1 for sure tho if they show up in form
@@yihadistxdl951 yeah just like how they beat them at msi? clown fr
@@sebastijansimunovic2973 they didnt show up in form? they literally threw the game giga hard and lost because of that. they literally would have won if hans bought ldr thats whats funny
buy a new mic
he sounds fine, developing a new personality that can thrive without putting others down