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Why, after ten years of talking with atheists, I'm still a Christian - Justin Brierley
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- Unbelievable? host Justin Brierley shares why he thinks Christianity makes best sense of human existence, value and purpose.
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Then you need to pay attention when you are listening to atheists in future. You obviously would not come out with such presuppositional garbage if you were delivering this diatribe in any European country. Your arguments are so weak that I thought this was from the 1950's. Bye-the-way Richard Dawkins is not the best atheist debater out there. He may have been 12 years ago but he could not compare with Hitchens .Matt Dillahunty, Paulogia and lots of others.
Justin, it's interesting how you poo poo naturalism. Every thing so far that we attributed to the supernatural we found to be due to natural forces. What in your life do you see the supernatural? Demonstrate it, do that and I'll believe it.
@@tomsheehy1 Would you agree with me that SOMEthing has always existed, for us to be here now?
@@zach2980 Would you agree with me that SOMEthing has always existed, for us to be here now?
@@20july1944 No, I don't know. Do you?
I'm an atheist, but really enjoy your work. Thanks very much. Thanks for bringing people together with opposing views in a kindly debate. We need so much more of that right now.
He's making a pretty annoying strawman of an atheist position
@@FinneousPJ1 All atheist positions are strawman approaches, though. All the new atheist's arguments all posit the same approach and argue the same points. Less a few subtle differences betwixt them about objective morality. It's just the same approach to debating religious folks. It's a simple format really...
@@jshauns I have no idea what you mean. Can you elaborate what you mean?
@@FinneousPJ1
Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dillahunty, all use the same presuppositional straw man approach when debating religious figures. Take belief in God, make a juxtaposed argument to some bad actor, who had belief in god, equate bad acts to god belief, bingo-bango, religion is bad. Religious figures do the same exact technique when arguing against secular humanism. Hitler was an atheist; therefore, atheism and atheists are bad. (This argument is fallacious on the surface - which is what makes it a strawman approach). “I’m not going to address what you say, I’m going to attack something else.”
I am simply stating that the approach of the atheist’s is the same. None are that concerned with consciousness and where it comes from, and more the point where it resides - except for maybe Harris, who has a more mindfulness approach than the others. The rest are solely out to rail against religion. They will arise at some hyperbolic place where ‘I don’t know, and that’s okay’ is typically used to just explain away key tenets of the human experience.
I am in no way saying what they are implying is wrong - just that, these many debates will have their assumed winners based on the predisposition of the audience. Harris is not going to make a compelling enough argument to convert areligious people, en masse after one debate. Just as Lennox won’t convert, in masse, a group of Secularists to Christianity after one debate. Sure, there may be a few, but I’m talking a lot. RUclips is an echo chamber of ideas and can generally find like-minded individuals to latch on to.
@@jshauns Even if you're correct, that does nothing to demonstrate your claim "all atheist positions are strawman approaches", which is ridiculous. There is one atheist position, which is the rejection of theistic claims.
Furthermore, you are not correct. Dillahunty, for example, tends to ask what theists believe and why and go from there. How is that strawmanning?
And even if it is, that does not excuse the strawmanning of this speaker. So you fail on many levels lol
I’ve been experiencing a period of doubting my faith lately but I couldn’t put into words why I couldn’t reject my Christian faith even in my doubt I just couldn’t reject Jesus and after listening to this Justin put into words everything that I was feeling. Something in me just knows that it’s true. Thank you so much after hearing this I’ve fallen in love with the gospel all over again.
it's called indoctrination or brainwashing.
you don't know it's true it was just drilled into your head at such a young age to lie his become instrumental to your being
it isn't true, and it's not leaving god or heading for hell because - no god and no hell. i've been atheist all my life, and i've had a pretty amazing life, god makes no difference, and if you hadn't noticed god hasn't made the slightest difference to human nature in 2000 years, the only advances in morality have actually come from secular sources, it wasn't the catholics decided to end the inquisition, it's not chrisitans allowing same sex marriage, it's not christians approving of homosexuality, religions are bully enablers and that's all "it's not ME burning you alive, my GOD demands it" - quit, go enjoy life, stop worrying about the sky daddy - he isn;t there.
I don't struggle with faith which isn't to say that I have all the answers to my questions..I still, in many ways struggle with why God allows certain kinds of pain and suffering but I know there was reason for the pain and suffering of Christ on the cross so that's where my mind goes when I see suffering that "seems" arbitrary. I think the Christian faith, the Bible has the best explanatory reasons why the world is the way it is in terms of humanity and its fallen nature...also, there's so much to sift through ie the laws of logic, the laws of physics, the moral law, the eye witness testimony of Scripture, the historisity of Jesus of Nazareth..it really is a cumulative case. Lastly, since neither God nor evolution can be proved we rely on inference to come to the best conclusion..so even atheists have faith. Faith is only as good as the object in which it's placed. If we consider all the aforementioned God is incomprehesively great..beyond what we can apprehend about Him in regard to all of those things..so I think the Christian has the best reasons for placing their faith in Christ...I could go on with respect to having an eternal perspective on life..and on and on..
@@cynthiahample7793 wow that was just a pile of garbage first of all the gospels don't even claim to be an eyewitness account they're written in the third person they were oral traditions for generations and written down anonymously and then centuries later attributed authors. The gospels speak of the Vincent no one was there to witness the gospel of Mark speaks of Mark as a separate person there is zero reason to think any of that is true we know they aren't eyewitness accounts there is no getting around that that is a fact
I am an atheist and really appreciate Justin. He is really good at having positive conversations. He does give us an example of being able to respectfully engage one another.
watch a few of his videos where there aren't any atheists around to "be nice to"...
Yeah tbh I’m a theist but really dislike militant theists and militant atheists, because I think debates on this channel can give better answers for both sides
Same! It’s really inspiring
Hope you find the truth - Christ is alive! 🙏😁🌟
For what crime did Roman's slaughter early Christians? Atheism! Look it up. You are in the best of good company! Peace be with you and yours :)
Thankyou, this is exactly what i needed. Im a teenager from britain who struggles and i searched you up because you commented on a great book called ask. I didn't expect to watch the whole video, especiappy when i saw that it was 35 minutes. But it completely lifter me up off the ground. Thankyou
Hey Anna , I'm a teenager also. Hope you are ok 👍
Keep your faith firm love.❤️🦋
Yes he is nice......I’m British too....... just remember no matter how nice someone is , god is still imaginary 🤪
@@jerichosharman470 he ain’t, you’re just deluded but that’s okay you’re not unique there are people many like you😔
@@sandershano5758 lol......ever notic pe,god is always invisible and barely speaks except in peoples heads? Yes ....god is imaginary ......wether it is Zeus , Brahma, Vishnu , Yahweh , Baal......or the invisible talking rabbit ........it’s all in the head
Thank you Justin. I have been a Christian for more than 40 years and never doubted the existence of God as the creator of the universe and life, that is why I am completing a degree in Religious Studies and Philosophy, after Education. The Big Conversation Debates I have watched on RUclips have been so interesting and motivating for me to do my part in sharing my thoughts in French & Spanish on the existential questions I had since the age of 10, although I am a nube techwise. You are encouraging me to share my experience and study on this subject I am so passionate about.
given this facts what decision will you make
You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven.
If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision
a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven
b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell
c) Bring no children
@@a.39886Freewill. If someone ends up in hell, it is their decision to go there. You have a choice to either reject Christ and live however you want or you can accept Christ and let God change your heart and life.
@nevetsessagal6755Only God can forgive sins.
do you have free will not to create who you know will end up in hell, do you have that choice either to create or not create? or it is God forced to create the ones he knows will be in eternal torture@@joeturner9219
As a christian biologist I highly value your work
Are you a creationist, or a biologist who is Christian and doesn't take the bible seriously?
I’ve been having a long conversation with a friend over the course of several months. She’s a 1.) witch 2.) evolutionist. How should the Christian approach the idea of evolution?
Being a Christian biologist must be a very difficult line to walk considering everything we know about biology is rooted in evolution
@@colereece3902 the first step to discussing evolutions actually learn what evolution is. So many Christians I talked to try to disprove things that evolution has never said.
@@darkeen42
Must be as difficult as being a Christian and wearing Mixed fabrics.
Young Earth creationism is probably amuch smaller group than you might think. It is a very vocal group tough.
The majority of Christians (outside the US) probably consider creation in 6 days a metaphor just like many other stories in the Bible. They recognise the evidence for evolution is overwhelming, and consider evolution part of the method via which God created life.
You host it so Eloquently and objectively, Your show is simply brilliant. I don't miss it. Thanks Justin from Australia
Dear Justin, God bless you and your family and the Christian radio. 💙👍🏻✝️
I am a Muslim and appreciate Justin's shows a lot. Enjoyed this talk as well. Keep it up Justin, God Bless you!
Which YHWW or Allah
@@sauravcyrus1935 Nice try. But YHWH, Elohim, Theos (Deus) and Allah are all interchangeable words for "God", linguistic symbols pointing to the same God, given that they are all Abrahamic faiths.
@@tobysanghera5829 believe me you don't want to associate with the god described in quran.
@@MorbiusBlueBallsThe same goes for the G-d of the Torah and Bible; your point being??
God bless you and your ministry, Justin!
I'm not a Christian believer but I really admire what you're doing and I love your channel man... please do keep it up!
I’m personally a Hindu but I love watching this channel and it’s free discussion.
Thanks for joining us Justin!! So happy to have had you speak and we can't wait to have you back!
As a life long atheist I have always looked forward to the debates and conversations organised by Justin. Keep it going.
Hey man may I ask you this question. Why are you an atheist. Your life goal is to tell Christians why they are wrong why is it your life goal is not to tell the truth?
@salty please look forward to Muslim speakers also and consider them. If you dismissed others to wait for a Christian apologist then you need to think again.
I'm glad you are hearing the case out Salty Dodger, (if that is your real name). Many of the 'new atheists' are antagonistic, but I think that arrogance has proven to be bad for them. The thing is, they are really coming from an 'I don't know' position, but acting like 'know it alls'. They have reasons for doubt. Ok. It's understandable. Doubts and a willingness to hear go a long way, and you seem like you may be that way. If so, great.
It takes time as the case for God and Christianity is immense and you may have barely scratched the surface. At times the most searching sceptics become strong defenders of the faith, like CS Lewis and J Warner Wallace more recently (a top notch detective bringing excellent angles on the subject. He's online and in books.) So if you don't mind running that risk, good for you. A hope for an eternity of love, joy and peace, beats out resting in peace forever, in my book.
(Which doesn't compare with Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.)
Here's some other things you could find here on RUclips. Videos by Dr James Tour and Dr Stephen C Meyers, Dr William Lane Craig for the Moral argument and others. Biblical archeology is proven again and again, most especially around the burnt peak of Mt Sinai in Saudi Arabia, (maybe check out Ryan Mauro's video and see the monolithic split Rock of Moses with its water erosion and many, many other Biblically correlating sites.), the Red Sea Crossing with its Egyptian size and style wheels in the sea corals and so on, is incredible Shall I keep going? There's the vast issue of the prophecies Christ fulfilled. Did you know that Dr Michael Brown never lost a debate with Jewish scholars? It's because of the case and his knowledge of it. Amazing subject, strong in giving faith as fulfilling the miraculous trends to be. Which leads to the resurrection. No shortage of those videos, as it is vital. While our extra Biblical evidence for Christ from the first century increases to solidify with new finds, the people want physical forensic evidence. Have you studied the Shroud? How about the incredibly matching headcloth of Christ in Oviedo. Even the blood type matches with the Shroud, AB. Also the Shroud tested positive for Bilirubin which comes from torture. Amazingly the crown of thorns plant pollen from early Jerusalem is still on the Shroud, but just the start of that evidence. Near Death Experiences are fascinating. Modern miracles in Mozambique are truly powerful, and PhD tested before and after prayer. Astonishing results! Yet there are so many more healings in Jesus name occurring there.
But beyond all these things and much more, there is the spiritual birth given you by God. "His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.", Paul said.
"God is Spirit" so really the issue is a spiritual one. Ultimately that is where He will make Himself known to you. Do you want Him to?
I hope this helps. I'll pray for you.
@@johnvirgilio5323 Many of the atheists are not what you think they are. The person you are replying have just proved my point . But you will rather assume than talking with (not to) them.
Thanks, I'll continue to try to humbly tread where the evidence leads where ever that might be but not lead the evidence to any prior conclusions, the essence of scepticism in my opinion.
I am a firm believer in my creator God almighty and after years of trying to bring
So powerful and refreshing. Experiencing a supernatural encounter with Christ is difficult to explain, but is tangible and real. I hope everyone takes this question seriously enough to explore it sincerely. They will undoubtedly come to the end of themselves and find Gods grace is the answer.
I thought the title said athletes lol. I was agnostic, now i am a Christian and i dont see it as religion, i want to see it as the way of life.
Definitionally it is a religion.
Amen. Follow the ways of Christ.
I’m a Christian and I appreciate the work you do keep it up and God bless
If you actually got an education and verified the thing as a scum bags as you wouldn't be thanking him you would be cussing him out.. I'm sorry you prefer comforting lies over harsh reality. You still believe in Santa Claus too
Hidden nature of God makes the idea of freedom possible
That is a really profound idea.
@@julianbrown7976 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Janet Hockey. Your comment doesn't make any sense
@@julianbrown7976
It's a really disgusting excuse.
The defense of Justin Brierley about Christianity is highly relatable to different degrees of intellect of different minds, logical and rational, compelling to ascribe to the biblical story of Christianity.
I am a Muslim. I really enjoy your programs and have learned a lot.
Watch Christian Prince
And I appreciate people like you man. I believe Muslims, Jews and Christians are uniting as one super faith!
@@blakechradini7235 not paying attention to the real world are you? Or what those other Faith's even say.
"It would be very strange for us to find ourselves in a universe where we could not exist" Lawrence Krauss.
Empowering! Great encouragement for faith in the Christian God. Love these statements: "What we think we know about science isn't pointing away from God, it's pointing to God". "When it comes to making sense of human existence - God is the best explanation". Loved the video. Jesus is Lord.
luckily science is right even if you don't like it, i'd like to see how long anyone would last without - well your phone for a start, all the way through to hospitals and medicine, you really are ungrateful, god KILLS people for goodness sake, even his own son, when i say "save starving children" i get told god doesn't do that - that's your god, doesn't care who dies.
at what stage is god involved then? at the quantum level? atomic? molecular? where is god getting his hands dirty, for me to have free will he can't touch my body can he? how is god an explanation of anything, how does god help surgery? where was god at nuremburg? humans have to doo all this bollocks, god has NEVER put in an appearance.
Christian God??????🤣
given this facts what decision will you make
You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven.
If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision
a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven
b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell
c) Bring no children
@@a.39886 The idea in itself of heaven or hell is horrible. They are the fruit of a paranoid mind.... Let children alone. Don't scare them or ruin their life with your horrible ideas, man!
This guy is the best moderator I’ve ever seen
Brilliant. I'm JACKED about God's love and hope!
God loves you 😘😘😘🙏
what love and what hope?
@@ivanleon6164 Here's to all the losers,
Who lose all guilt and sin,
Here's to Life in Jesus,
Where all of the losers win.
@@JWCFB OK...
@@JWCFB. You are hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
The first argument can be easily dismissed by this: If the christian god is omnipotent then he can do whatever he wants i.e. if he wanted us to live on the sun then he would have made it so. The speaker tries to dip into both supernaturalism and naturalism. If the christian god is omnipotent you don't need exact conditions 'cause as we can read in the bible people were raised fron the dead and even donkeys could speak! So natural conditions as we know it are not an impediment for the christian god.
2.Regarding the rape issue and "morality". what about slavery? killing homosexuals? stoning your children for misbehaving? don't those also raise that "feeling of wrongness"? Yet they are condoned and commanded by the christian god.
3. The argument is framed from a binary point of view. Is christianity the only religion in the world? That "feeling" has also been fulfilled by other religious and non-spiritual believe systems. That feeling seems to be a place holder for a belief system (atheistic, theistic and everything in between), not necessarily christianity.
Love the show!!
@Rishal Charles I'm a Deist.
@Rishal Charles that there isnt a god deciding this stuff
Not only do theists denigrate life / human value. They hold contempt for laws of physics.
This brought me to tears. Thank you, Justin.
II came to Christianity through science. When I find an inscription in the sand I think it's common sense to think a human wrote it, whereas a militant atheist would believe that crabs and sea motion over the millennia wrote that single phrase. It simply doesn't make sense. As a former atheist, former agnostic, and now a believer in Christ I sincerely thank the new atheists who with their so-far futile attempts to debunk the Christian faith and replace it with their naturalistic and irrational faith make my faith in GOD and Christ stronger because it is based on firmer ground. And for this, I must deeply thank Justin Brierley and the precious debates he hosts in his show that compare the two worldviews.
Yay another new Christian that came to faith through science. It’s rare for me to find new Christians especially those through science!
You may have some familiarity with science, but your logic is abominable.
When you find writing in the sand you know it for what it is because you've seen writing before many times and you know how it is made. Your "common sense" about that is nothing but accumulated experience. Please tell us about your travels to other universes which you saw many universes being made by a god or gods, that informs you that this universe was similarly designed and made.
If the entire universe was necessarily designed by a god, then we have no examples to look at of something that wasn't so designed, and therefore no way to tell the difference between the two.
@@yekatyaap548 do not be surprised. Science, in the first place, has been a product of the Christian world view that there was a design to be discovered in nature. Chines did not invent science because they were convinced that the world was in a precarious equilibrium between the forces of chaos and order. Greeks believed in the logos and not in the fact that there were natural laws to be discovered through guided experiments. Christians were convinced that being made in the image of God they had the intellect to find out the laws written In nature by the law giver.
@@scotte4765 I’m not an English native speaker but it is clear that in labeling my logic abominable you are not trying to be nice to me and unfortunately I am a too young new Christian to be nice to a jerk like you. With my comment I was really paying respect to atheists that struggle to search the truth. Anyway you entirely missed the point. It is exactly the experience that let me know that there is an intelligent cause when I see Information . I stop here. Stay safe.
@@bhocatbho I wasn't trying to be nice to you, or to be mean to you. You opened yourself up to public response by posting a comment here, so I gave you an honest response to the argument you gave. I saw nothing in your comment that paid respect to atheists. You made an absurd characterization of what you think atheists "would believe" and then labeled that mischaracterization as not making sense. You said atheists' attempts to debunk Christian faith were futile and claimed they have "irrational faith" that is on weaker ground than yours. Your "thanking" of atheists was the equivalent of saying, "you're so stupid and wrong, it has helped reinforce how right I am, so thanks".
Please tell me what you think atheists should regard as respectful in all of that. If you're going to write a paragraph that misrepresents and mocks atheists in multiple ways, why are you surprised when an atheist doesn't respond with "oh boy, thank you"?
Your understanding of the history of the development of science is simplistic, distorted, and abominable as well, by the way.
I love your work as a host. The way you create a space for dialogue is beyond compare.
This was not for me.
I have begun watching or listening to “Unbelievable?” for the past 6 months or so and I think it is great. I in particular like the impartiality that Justin showed during every debate. It’s great to see Justin proclaiming his faith in this video but it may not do good to his show because people might think he is biased.
I'm an atheist who's watched quite a few of his show's episodes, and he does a fantastic job remaining unbiased. He's one of the best moderators of talks like these, period.
@@majm4606 unbiased? really? watch some of the "whats an atheist" episodes where he's not being watched.
@@HarryNicNicholas A quick search for those episodes turned up nothing, and it doesn't sound like it's part of his moderation (which is where I'm saying he's acting unbiased, and he has from all the talks I've seen).
I'm a Christian but I think both Atheists and Christians alike appreciate what you do. You allow healthy, respectful and insightful debates that are fair and allow both sides to freely express themselves. Thank you.
I believe most of us Christians had been in a journey of being an atheist at an early age when we deal with so many questions in our minds that seems impossible to be answered by God. but we continue to seek the answers that will satisfy us and eventually realize no Human opinions is really smart enough to give us all the evidence we needed to prove and disprove the existence of God. no wonder the Bible teaches that God will only exist through the word FAITH. Debating with the atheist is never really the answer as most of the comments I've read here. Instead of debating I believe it's better to pray for them. The Atheist is not the enemy but the one who gave them that idea which is the devil. So pray for them. Peace
Agree. Faith allows us to see from the perspective of God. Other than that, non-believers see it as foolish. Thus faith is a gift. No one can work for it.
And for what amazing reason do you have to pray for atheists? As we know that nothing fails like prayer it sounds like a pointless exercise. Perhaps you are better off ridding yourself of your ridiculous fantasies so that you can live in the real world. You are on a journey all right and the destination is stupidity central. Keep your condescending prayer offer to yourself!
I love your great stamina and valor, Justin, dealing with formidable set of challenging views towards God, science, and nature while carefully taking a good care of differences.
Such a wonderful man. Thank you!
I love the fact that after so many years he's still so dishonest about almost everything he says. He's been corrected about almost any point he's making but he just doesn't care - he just want to make believe.
I am an atheist and Listening to your show I've become even more ashiest if I may say so😅
I'm an antitheist, but Justin is a real one. Great guy and a great debate host.
Nice guy…really? He is personally perpetuating lies - constant lies about non-believers, lies to back up Christianity which is a putrid, dangerous cult, a scam.
God is amazing. You are spot on Justin. 💯 Percent agree. ❤️🙏❤️
Incredible points you've made! Well done.
Justin , as an agnostic atheist I have enjoyed your shows and your obvious general understanding of the opponents position especially when moderating ( this is rare in my experience) .....I'm still confused why you still believe! but hey we don't get to choose our beliefs . All the best . Jon
@leumasdiderot Thats a tad disingenuous ! I have no evidence to doubt his motives. I disagree with his conclusions for sure, but saying its all for money ???? do you have any evidence for this claim?
@leumasdiderot OK How much does he earn and tell me how you know this? How much also does he give to charity and how you know this?
I dont think ad hominem attacks on believers especially when you seem to propose every theist is in it for the money, is a clever strategy.
Show their erroneous irrational thinking, faulty logic and the deep routed fallaciousness in their ARGUMENTS , but dont just make up shit about someone you don't know and never met.
You just come across as another angry atheist hurling insults everywhere. I dont think that helps the cause as people are defected from the real issues.
@leumasdiderot I'm a resolute atheist , who just disapproves of your hyperbole and insults and considers it counter productive to dialog.
Compensatory fantasies have real utility. They protect the mind from harsh realities and give meaning and purpose where there might be none. Religion organizes thoughts and emotions around beliefs that cannot be falsified, protecting them from the intrusions of an often vague and indifference reality. The danger of these fantasies is that they divorce the mind from reality and force a worldview willing to accept ideas not based on falsifiable evidence but experience and desires. Our nascent ego-centrism is difficult to overcome, and often leads our minds to think existence is centered on us. It is no surprise god is described as a 'father' and his faithful 'children'. At the core of religion seems to be a need to satisfy the inner child unwilling to accept this material, godless reality.
@Paul Morgan That is proof of belief in god, not evidence for a god.
@Paul Morgan Whatever claims religion makes about death cannot be falsified. At best they are fantasy, at worst an open manipulation of our greatest fear as mortal minds.
@Primum Non Nocere it's a trendy delusion.
Thank you Justin. You're explanation revived my faith.
*your
_"You're explanation revived my faith"_
it's good that he's explanation revived your faith :)
given this facts what decision will you make
You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven.
If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision
a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven
b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell
c) Bring no children..
@@a.39886 d) Don't pretend that people go to heaven or hell when they die. The Bible doesn't teach such nonsense. People who die are dead, forever, unless they are resurrected when Christ returns. People don't burn in hell for eternity. Such an idea is utterly abhorrent and thoroughly unbliblical.
@@blackfalkon4189 LOL
I do not object to Justin remaining a Christian despite his dialogues with atheists over the years, but I found myself having to say, over and over again, no, that is not what atheists believe. At no point did Justin provide a steel man representation of the atheist position and instead tended towards straw manning. Disappointing to say the least.
To be fair, if you're claiming a Christian worldview is superior to a secular worldview, you pretty much have to straw man the atheist position at that point.
@@themilkmanshallrise1885 True.
It bugs me as well. He makes a claim about the universe being fine tuned. We say prove it.
Great talk! Thank you for sharing Justin! God Bless!
Would he feel that life is valueless if he was considered to be invaluable? The truth is that if you don’t know where you will be, you will have to consider all human life to be valuable. The kids in the sewers believed that their lives were valuable.
Roger Kreil or the complete opposite of your argument is true, there is no reason to consider anyone as valuable since we are all cosmic accidents.
@@wolfman6649 You believe in 'cosmic accidents' with no proof for your religion to justify the lifestyles you support.
What a great way to reason so that people's eyes may be opened. We really could not have come here by chance. The odds are stacked against that bet. What I find super intriguing is that people would look at that option and actually embrace it.
We don't know the odds. Justin grossly misrepresented both what the science says and how probabilities are determined in this talk.
Ultimately the proof is our own encounter with God when we take the leap of faith to follow Jesus.
@@pilgrimpiper7832 yes, meaning there is no proof, just childish belief
Alhamdulillah. Hallelujah. By listening to refined ideas of Christian thinkers, I find my way illuminated towards understanding Islam and other religions from a different perspective.
Because your version of Christianity gives you hope, meaning, and purpose.
Grateful for your edition regarding the Enneagram… it has been so misleading and harmful. Thankful you gave it airtime with both Wilson and Montenegro. The peril of Pragmatism was on display, but so was God’s sovereignty … it encouraged me to pray lots as well as to share the information with friends
Brilliant.
if he said, belief in God, that might make more sense, it's not just athiests who don't believe in the Christian God, it's the vast majority of the planet
Thank you for sharing this. After researching and listening to different point of views for a while. Being a medical professional I can see that evolution although a good explanation is not good enough, and a true relationship with Jesus is tangible, He actually speaks to your heart and performs miracles. And that is something that you can’t explain to those who dont have a relationship with him. Its like trying to explain colours to a person who can only see in black and white.
Yep!!
How does being a medical professional make you "see that evolution although a good explanation is not good enough". That doesnt make any sense and is an argument from personal incredulity.
Good comment especially the part about explaining colors
Tell that to the Hindu who thinks the same about Hale Krishna.
@@itzyourbwoytchybooxuur6475 tell me all about the evidence for any of the gods that aren’t the God of the Bible. Read There Is A God by Antony Flew, the worlds most notorious atheist comes to believe there is a God.
I see the fine tuning argument that Justin believes in as an argument from incredulity. Our primitive (although many would deny that) and severely limited cognitive powers are enough for Christians to feel certain they have found *the* answer to everything? Please. Everything that belief provides an answer to the Christian can be explained by the only type of reality we have- naturalism. There is no precedence for existence of a supernatural reality. Just because we honestly, humbly say the truth which is ‘we don’t know’ does not then mean,God.
I have not seen nor heard anything from reading,listening to hours of Christian debate, which compels me to believe what I consider to be a problematic, contradictory, error-filled, at times fraudulent,and pedestrian story. This series of books is supposed to represent magnificence beyond comprehension? Please.
Hv watched a few good debates where justin has shown good comprehension..the only way i can explain his faith, despite being on the weak side of these debates, is that of sunk costs that are way to big..the power of the emotions to utterly override reason is beyond question...
Love his openess to friendly conversation. Sounds like he is the type of guy who would likely understand the importance of the principle of charity. I have plentry of questions I'd like to ask him......
Good talk Justin. Bummed on the podcast with Alex and Bishop Barren today and I hope to follow your channel.
well, I know this is completely out of context but, I am Mexican and went to college and worked in the US, and I can't help noticing the difference in your accent!!! Love it!!! God bless you!!!
Good talk mate, God bless
Talking to atheists helps me stay Christian!
Are you a comic? That`s the craziest thing I have ever heard.
Sameee lol. I just feel bad for them.
Talking to Christians helps me stay atheist!
@@padfootfan123 And when you see some of the intellectuals on both sides of the issue, it boggles my mind when either side belittles the other as unintelligent.
@@joetunon agreed. One's faith doesn't determine one's intelligence. There are idiots everywhere.
The three points summarized here by Justin seem to be well thought out. As an atheist, I think Justin actually manages to properly represent my worldview. The only problem I have with the three points here is, at best, they manage to make a strong philosophical case for a deity. If this gets you anywhere it gets you to deism, not theism. This does not, on its' own merit, get you to Christianity.
Jeff Paxton, finally, an atheist in these threads makes a valid point.
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02:07 🎧 *"Unbelievable" features discussions between believers and non-believers, gaining a global audience through podcasts and videos.*
03:16 📺 *Brierley highlights the importance of fostering good conversations in a polarized culture, showcasing examples from his show.*
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07:49 🤔 *Brierley addresses the challenges posed by aggressive atheism, spurred by figures like Richard Dawkins, and the need for Christians to defend their faith.*
10:48 🌌 *Brierley presents the concept of worldview, emphasizing the need for both Christians and atheists to justify their beliefs.*
12:53 🤔 *Brierley offers reasons why Christianity provides the best explanation for human existence, citing the fine-tuning of the universe as evidence.*
19:58 💬 *Brierley argues that God offers a better explanation for human existence than chance, highlighting the complexity of life and the universe.*
20:24 🚸 *The story of James Jerry Miller rescuing children from the sewers highlights the intrinsic value of human life.*
21:47 🧠 *Atheism struggles to provide a compelling explanation for why human life should be valued.*
23:23 🤔 *Richard Dawkins' response underscores the difficulty of grounding moral judgments on atheistic principles.*
25:15 💡 *Christianity offers a coherent explanation for human dignity and value, rooted in being made in the image of God.*
26:20 🌍 *Jennifer Fulwiler's journey illustrates the existential crisis atheism can pose regarding purpose and meaning.*
28:51 🌟 *Contrary to atheism's bleak outlook, Christianity provides a narrative rich in purpose, meaning, and hope.*
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I love Dave Rubin and Professor Lennox. That sounds like a great show!
@Paul Morgan professor Lennox is a lost case. Makes up stories and call them evidence
Christianity is fading away in the UK as more older believers die off not to be replaced by younger people. There used to be 3 churches in our village, now only one with a typical Sunday congregation of 20 - 30, mostly elderly women.
Although I am an atheist, I recognise the value of the church in these peoples lives. I can understand how it gives them a feeling of belonging to a caring community and perhaps one of the few social contacts they have with others.
I would be genuinely sad to see this last church closing, inevitable as it seems. There are few venues where people in this village can go and be welcomed unconditionally.
Too many commuters, leaving early morning, returning in the evenings and having little to do with the village.
Hi Eric, since you are an atheist, your sadness at eventually seeing the last church in your town closed down means a lot. In the US, church attendance is also declining. Jesus even asked the rhetorical question, when he comes again, will he find faith on the earth? It seems the answer is, he won't.
No Miracles unfortunately bilions and bilions being born randomly
Eric Henderson, religion co-opts, or claims as its own, that which is innately human: love, forgiveness, morality, togetherness, community... The paradigm is dying, the churches are shuttered, but the human traits remain. Start a weekly social group in your town, sing songs, have beliefs not requiring magic, do good things, take back what creed has left in its passing.
@@crackedhands There is no logical reason for love, forgiveness, morality and all that bullshit for a real atheist. Actually you should stop being a hypocrite and co-opting those things from christians. We are going to be dead anyway. Why should we 'care' (as if that emotion should exist) what happens to the rest of humanity. Live your limited life to how you want and enjoy it to your full personal satisfaction.
@@OneTrueScotsman Yeah, just like you here...
I am thanking God every day for being an atheist. More sriously now: my wife and I both atheist and - belive it or not - we go to church (Grace Sarasota) every saturday, for the message, not to hear about God.
Looking forward to the Rubin event
I would like to see Lennox debate Dilahunty. I'm curious to see whether they'd reach a stalemate or not.
Matt Dillahunty has a lot of clout that would be an awesome debate
@Sem Nome
Dilihunty has been severely outclassed by several theists already. Look up the debate with Michael Jones.
@@brando3342 I'll check it out, thanks.
@Sem Nome
No problem!
@@brando3342 It was an interesting debate, but it was a bit restricted for my taste. I'd much rather watch metaphysical showdowns. This one was more focused on legitimacy of religion backed conducts vs atheistic humanist ones. I'm not a guy that supports Matt on his humanist morality tirades, but I do think he is a power house of debate. He is very solid.
I appreciate very much the hint. I'm not a theist but I do believe religion and Christianity have very usefull qualities to offer to social cohesion and moral high grounds. I think Christians and atheists should unite forces to push back mostly on Islam, which for me still holds very archaic practices that are spreading at full throttle in Africa, Asia, Middle East and transfiguring Europe with no going back. I very much wish people take Islam seriously and go to the frontlines, prozelitizng for western values and way of life.
Good stuff ☝️
I don't personally have a problem with a grand designer. I'm also not an atheist, but I can see that. The problem I know most atheists have is with a christian god. With the christian values and beliefs. What makes your monotheistic religion true compared to other monotheistic religions, for me that is the biggest question that needs to be addressed. Why choose christianity over islam for example? Christians shouldn't be reduced to people who believe in a designer right? They believe in a specific god.
I can understand that it is overwhelming in the beginning to filter out the djungle of religions, so let me lend a helping hand. :)
These are the three greatest reasons for why Christianity rises above other religions:
1. The account in Genesis is in alignment with modern cosmology. The other mythological accounts are NOT in alignment with modern cosmology. (see "Science and Creation" by Stanley Jaki for more information).
2. Pantheistic polytheism says that their gods are *internal* of time and space. This is NOT in alignment with modern cosmology. Theism in monotheism says that god is *external* of time and space, which is in alignment with modern cosmology.
Now, you have narrowed it down to Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Islam is false because of the islamic dilemma (qurannic dilemma) and judaism is false because of isaia 53 (among others) in the Old Testament. (see Michael Brown´s "Answering jewish objections about jesus" and "Mohammed did not exist" by Robert Spencer if you want more information).
This leaves Christianity. If the resurrection is true, Jesus is the Son of God (for real) and everything he said is true.
3. The historical evidence for the resurrection is overwhelming. I can recommend "The case for the resurrection of Jesus" by the former agnostic and world-expert historian Gary Habermas and "The resurrection of Jesus: a new historiographical approach" by former agnostic historian Mike Licona.
(And no, the resurrection is NOT copied from pagan myths. The legend-hypothesis was popular during the 19th century, but has since been rejected by academic historians. The channel "Inspiring Philosophy" goes through this in great detail. He is a former atheist. "Testify" is also a useful channel.)
“Your list of possible theories on the origins of the universe are as impossible to prove as my absolute certainty that it’s a very specific god, therefore, your uncertainty is wrong, and my certainty is right.” This is not an argument, it’s an assertion, and it’s unfalsifiable. Stop saying science supports you. It does not.
Harry Silvio either everything came out of nothing for no reason; or it came out of nothing because God made it. Both are faith positions. Did you not watch the video section about chance? People don’t believe in God because they don’t want to. Funny how most of the famous scientists who actually discovered stuff have believed in God
@@markmywords8013 that's a false dichotomy. The universe we see need not have come from nothing. And unless you are claiming that God is the only "nothing" with "reason". "God" is not the opposite of "no reason"
I think this argument tries so hard to disprove natural causes that it relegates god to being nothing but a rock to rest the beginning of the universe on and nothing like the god of the bible.
The God story reminds me of something my father, my childhood beacon to the world, would be capable of: adopting a pet from a shelter and having it killed in front of me to show how much he loves and cares about me.
Your statement a disinformative lie. It would be like if your dad adopted a dog and the dog gave its life willingly in the midst of an armed robbery against you and your family by jumping infront of bullet fire so you had time to get away and live. Don't lie about the Christian faith, it doesnt help your view. Jesus GAVE HIS LIFE WILLINGLY. He knew God would revive him and though we are evil sinners he paved the way into life.
@@lightningmtaylor jeusus gave his life in this mythological story because that’s what people thot was a good remedy for curing psychological issues back then…human sacrifice. Christianity also borrowed the flood myth, water/wine, virgin birth from previous myths. The credulity from todays people is mind blowing.
@@zachg8822 Now I know you can't be taken seriously. No historian or scholar would deny that Jesus exsisted. Scholars use the bible to confirm early jewish events. Again your lies are easily pointed out, you have no argumentd facts or evidence. If you reply to me again it better only be facts otherwise im not wasting my time reading more lies
@@lightningmtaylor Youv’e already wasted all your time with talking animals prophecies.
@@zachg8822 given this facts what decision will you make
You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven.
If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision
a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven
b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell
c) Bring no children12
Greetings from Pakistan.
You’re an inspiration and you are right. Your messages touched my heart and mind. Thank you!
Can you please tell me your testimony thank you please 🙏
Pakistan - failed country with lots of violence against women, poverty and animal cruelty. But good for you that you believe in God!!!
@@catlady9012 um okay? But let me just tell you, that you won’t find the kind of faith Pakistani Christians have or Christians from any third world country in the west. The West has failed us Christians.
I do enjoy the podcast, thank you. As an atheist (but former Christian) listening to the debates assures me more then ever that the Abrahamic god is pure fiction, and reminds me how free I am from sin and hell and heaven and evil. It’s bliss.
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1.5k likes / 135 dislikes Thank you, Justin, for this presentation. *_1 Corinthians _**_2:14_**_ But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated._*
Vgiven this facts what decision will you make
You are 100% perfect need no one or anything but if you created you know with 100% certainty that if certain children will end up eternally suffering the torture of hell, and a different group of children will end up eternally on heaven.
If you have that knowledge and the power to created them what is your decision
a) Bring only the children that end up in heaven
b) Bring both the children that end up in heaven and also hell
c) Bring no children
Could you put Joshua harris or other former Christian today who recently left their faith on your show?
@FreedomInTruth How convenient
@FreedomInTruth Can you demonstrate your relationship with God? How could you possibly know what anybody truely believes?
Also cant deny he exsists? How about for years now we have been demonstrating how its possible he canNOT exsist. Law of noncontridiction for a start.
@@fr33thinker69 While I don't necessarily agree with FreedomInTruth. I believe that on God would know the heart of man so it's not my place or any man to say who is or is not a true Christ follower. It is possible one could demonstrate their relationship with God via the fruit of their labor. It's not to say they must work to have salvation, but rather they must work to be a light to others and honor God. Anyone can deny God. That is free will at work. Possible God canNOT exist, but less and less probable the more we learn about our universe and the beginnings of life on this Earth. I don't believe the law of non-contradiction proves the non-existence of God.
@@JohnsonJLB Sorry was a bit blunt, i mean from every definition of God so far, It would seem none have been proven possible to exsist, i dont claim A god cant exsist, but certainly any theist God it would seem cannot or does not exsist given the history of religion from the last 40000 years till now. Have all been created by humans, and nothing of divinity.
@@JohnsonJLB Also i dont think you can choose what you believe, i think your conviced of somthing or not. So in that sense i would say its impossible, and also no confirmed mind readers yet. In terms of judging by somebodys actions i can see your point to some extent, I dont accept it as an arguement tho for the fact that not only are there many religions, but also the disagreements between people of the same faith, read scripture differently. So if they cant agree on their own religion again, how can anyone know to a certainity exactly what a person believes.
Justin, you are one of the greatest Christians I know. I am an atheist and, for the most, anti-theist (as a former believer, and no, I am not "angry with god")
Would love to engage with you 🌼
You define God down and out to justify the anti-God lifestyles that you support.
These statements don't make any sense to non-believers.
Do you define Zeus or Dionysos down to justify the anti-Pagan lifestyle that you support?
"For decades, researchers studying psychopathy have characterized the disorder as a profound inability to process emotions such as empathy, remorse, or regret." go figure this one?
Great content. Thankyou.
Great Lecture!
Wonderful video ❤ God bless you, Justin. Greetings from Spain!
Here's what I don't understand about your guys' perspective. People like William Craig etc. argue that it is plausible and even logical that the universe is founded on a supreme consciousness that exists in a realm separate from the physical and abstract, a sort of "mental" or conscious realm. However, this argument, while plausible in an involved way, has no bearing on actual Christianity. Even if such a consciousness exists in some way, there is no saying that that is the Christian god. Additionally, the fine tuned argument also has no bearing on Christianity. A god or god-like being existing does not solve the debate of Atheism vs Christianity. If anything, it only addresses Atheism vs Theism, in which Theism is such a diverse field that nobody could conclusively prove one religion over another. They all claim to have ancient texts of divine truths after all. On Earth, there are so so so many religions that all believe in divine and miraculous things. In my view, it's either all bullocks or it's all originated from some permeating spiritual force that all humans have simply interpreted in different ways, but in reality is all from the same source. If that's the case, the different stories from Christianity and other Abrahamic religions, as well as Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. are all just human stories and interpretations of a grander force that really has nothing to do with any of the human perceptions of those stories. If the arguments in favor of a supreme consciousness are true, it's quite likely that a Christian cannot claim to be any more in the right of their superstitious belief than a Hindu or a Muslim.
The amount of mindless ad hominems in the comment sections.
which God
@@Sportliveonline, are you serious?
@@oxident-954, nah.
An insult is not an ad hominem.
The big bang theory and my very limited understanding of it seems highly improbable. Creationism seem like the stories of primitive people making things up to explain things they don't understand, and becuae God, you have to stick with it and cling to some book(Bible) despite the contradictions and vagueness. At least science allows for room to be wrong and learn from it. Religion does not
Belief in God tells me that through science the universe is knowable. Sciences role is not to prove or disprove God, science exists to best explain the material reality. If God were to exist than we would not be up against the poor descriptions offered by fellow man but against a being so vastly powerful that we could hardly even begin understand Him/Her/It.
Interesting that the Bible said that the Big bang was how God started the universe. Much opposition, was given when it was first proposed, as it proved the Bible’s position, when science believed the universe was unchanging and eternal.
I don't mean to be rude, but do you really find this convincing? You have to be ok with infinite punishment for finite crimes to believe in the Christian god. And if you claim that this Christian god is "good" then we have a problem.
I'm always in favor of reasonable, peaceful discussion. As an atheist in America, living in a state that's predominantly christian, peaceful discussions can be very difficult because of misconceptions about atheists. We may not agree on issues of religion and the value of faith, but I'm always happy to speak with people who are willing to have a good peaceful discussion, without judgment or getting offended or defensive. I don't agree that we've "lost the ability for reasonable discussion", it was a problem when I was young and it's still a problem today. It's really been a problem for a long, long time because when you are surrounded by like minded people and encounter something new, human fear and ignorance kick in and humans are quick to judge something different as "bad". So I support Justin's goal of having these conversations and making them good.
If only we were better empiricists. If only questions weren't regardeded as answers.
The we could see each as rational, spiritual children; fruit of one tree.
Loved your speech, Justin! Even noted your arguments and your explanations.
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09:39 🤔 *Brierley highlights the role of apologetics in defending and explaining the Christian worldview, stressing that both believers and atheists have a burden to justify their respective worldviews.*
12:12 🔍 *Brierley begins a series of arguments for Christianity, starting with the notion that God provides the best explanation for human existence, contrasting with atheism's lack of a satisfying explanation.*
19:17 🔬 *Brierley points to scientific discoveries such as the fine-tuning of the universe and the complexity of DNA as evidence supporting the existence of a creator, challenging the narrative that science disproves God.*
19:58 🌌 *The odds against human existence by chance are significant, suggesting a purposeful explanation.*
20:38 🚸 *The story of James Jerry Miller rescuing children from sewers highlights the intrinsic value of human life.*
22:29 🤔 *Atheism struggles to provide a satisfactory explanation for why human life is valued.*
24:48 🧠 *Atheist Richard Dawkins acknowledges the arbitrariness of moral beliefs in a godless universe.*
26:20 🌍 *Atheism offers a bleak perspective on purpose compared to Christianity's narrative of meaning and hope.*
27:01 💔 *Jennifer Fulwiler's realization challenges the atheistic view of love and purpose as mere chemical reactions.*
28:09 🌌 *Richard Dawkins' perspective reflects a universe devoid of purpose or meaning, contrasting with the experience of love, truth, and beauty.*
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The problem of animal suffering is the final nail on the coffin of the Christian worldview.
It's not a problem at all actually. I understand Alex O Connor says a bunch of bullshit, But there's no reason you should accept everything that falls out of his mouth uncritically.
Besides Thomism blows that whole objection out of the water.
@@thepalegalilean so convenient for you to say that an obvious issue of animal suffering is just bullshit and move off... simply calling major objections against your worldview bullshit is not gonna do any good...
I’m still an atheist even though I live around many Christians. Wow, how amazing is that?
That is amazing! What would it take for you to change your mind?
Gneiss Girl - Evidence
Gabe Norman - Give an example.
Gabe Norman - What am arrogant assumption. When I ask for evidence, it means I’m asking for evidence.
Gabe Norman So then it must be pretty easy to give me an example
I am always amazed when I hear about Christians in England. So many people there are atheists.
There are many Christians, Hindus, Atheists and Muslims too. Faith is not dead. All these groups have a faith position. However, secularism does have a big influence in the UK.
This video is incredibile, you are incredibile, thank you!
"Why, after ten years of talking with atheists, I'm still a Christian" Because faith is blind.
“Where there is evidence , no one speaks of " faith " . We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the earth is round . We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence .”
― Bertrand Russell
@Kira Lou If Pascal was alive today he would be an atheist. Don't kid yourself.
You know how much control church had at that time and you do know what happened with people who went against the church. I will give you a clue, heretics and witches. Those were burn alive.
I love the respect and kindness that you bring to this topic. I think there is a kind of fearlessness too, of allowing yourself to encounter beliefs that do not match your won. That shows a real depth of faith, and I thank you for sharing it with the world at a time when belief in our loving God seems to be so low.
Well said.
Can I ask you a few questions.
Does the Creator have a Name, if so, what is it? Scripture asks this question!
Pro 30:4 Who has gone up to the heavens and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name, And what is His Son’s Name, If you know it?
What does it mean when Scripture tells us to keep the Sabbath?
Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to set it apart.
Who was born the 25th of December, and why do you celebrate it?
How do you get 3 days and 3 nights from Good Friday to Sunday?
Mat 12:40 “For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
the divine name was increasingly regarded as too sacred to be uttered,,After the Babylonian Exile (6th century BCE), and especially from the 3rd century BCE on, Jews ceased to use the name Yahweh, the pronunciation was losy
3days 3nights,, as Jews know, the day of Passover itself is also a “Sabbath” or rest day - no matter what weekday it falls on. In the year 30 AD Friday, the 15th of the Jewish month Nisan was also a Sabbath - so two Sabbaths occurred back to back - Friday and Saturday. Matthew seems to know this as he says that the women who visited Jesus’ tomb came early Sunday morning “after the Sabbaths,,
No one was born december 25th it is celebration of saturnalia which the cathilic church adpoted, with all other pagan worship to get people to join them.
I honestly thought this guy was an atheist or skeptic. He always seems very even-handed on his show, sometimes even more friendly to the skeptical side than to the Christian side. It takes courage to open up and let your guard down to the opposition and he has done that many times.
Thank you Justin! Great talk and love your program. I especially enjoyed the program with Stephen Meyer. As a biologist I see the evidence of God (his fingerprint) all over the place.
No you don't.
@@username-iz6el Really?? Wow!! What a bummer!!! 😉
@@mau6086 😃
What an inspiring lecture..
The easiest person to fool is yourself.
1. The fine tuning of the universe does point to intelligent design. However, it does nothing to clarify the identity or nature of said designer, or designers. It’s just as likely that there was a collection of gods that collaborated to bring about this universe as there being a singular designer.
2. Human value is self-assigned, not based upon a designation attributed from God. The problem of human suffering cannot be simply explained away by the Christian who says we are valuable because God says so. If we have dignity and value as attributed to us by God, why so much suffering and pain? If we were as important and valuable as Christians say God says we are, our lots in life would look a lot better than they currently do.
3. Viewing Jesus as the purpose and meaning of life effectively negates the purpose and meaning of the existence of billions of people throughout time that never had the knowledge or opportunity to choose Jesus and make him the center of their lives.
I enjoy the content that you provide immensely. Keep up the good work!
Fine-tuning does not imply creator. Fine-tuning does suggest a process by which the fine-tuning does occur.
thats the thing, not HOW does the fine tuning process come about, more, ask why? And then I suppose in the story of Jesus, Jesus was the same yesterday, today and forever. Jesus died to save everyone's sins who would believe that he died on the cross and was resurrected, I cant give you my view on this but I think that all these are valid questions. I guess if you can accept this as an answer,
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