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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024

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  • @PaulMessner
    @PaulMessner  16 дней назад +21

    If you enjoyed this video please consider subscribing here ruclips.net/user/paulmessner

    • @Jamienomore
      @Jamienomore 13 дней назад

      I much prefer a Tent with a built in Ground Base so the Grass isn't inside the Tent.

  • @neonjoe84
    @neonjoe84 16 дней назад +22

    I’ve had the Unna for 3 years now and used it in all seasons with the 10mm poles. The freestanding option is brilliant as you can pick the tent up and place it exactly where you want. It doesn’t suffer with much condensation, although I don’t cook in the tent. It handles wind very well and snow just falls off the sides. Highly recommend this tent for all 4 seasons.

  • @olamikalsen3367
    @olamikalsen3367 5 дней назад +1

    Bought the Unna because 1 night overnighters on snow in Norway wintertime weekdays, is what time afford me mostly. Skiing with the smallest pulk sledge I have, weight is not a problem and I dont bring much more stuff than Paul does, its just winter size. At 174 cm tall, I dig a snow ditch and sit like in a real chair, not just the chair kit. I use a multifuel burner on white gas inside the Unna when cooking. This is only possible because of the size of the Unna, and no problem with ventilation with part of the top vent open. If I only was camping on my own, Unna is by far the tent most suited in all seasons and weather if you get the extra poles and footprint. Pegs change with seasons anyway. Everything positive about the Unna was said by Paul in this video, and I have nothing to add. Thank you for the review. ❤😊

  • @garyhoffman1
    @garyhoffman1 14 дней назад +5

    Remember that Hilleberg tents were/are designed in Scandinavia for Scandinavian conditions. As such, they are bomber tents made to last. They are not designed with the philosophy that they will be good enough for a few years and then be replaced with a “new and improved” version. I have both the Unna and Allak. The Allak is 12 years old and still in perfect condition. I have read about people taking MSR Hubba’s, Big Agnes and other less robust tents out in a storm here in Norway and they didn’t hold up. Up here, that could be life threateningly dangerous.

    • @NotASheep100
      @NotASheep100 11 дней назад +3

      Good clear point....which i totally get.
      Unfortunate weve become too obsessed with everything being light weight...
      As you said...not good in serious weather.

  • @Povel-w7j
    @Povel-w7j 16 дней назад +15

    Great review!
    Unna with a small tarp is a fantastic combination!

  • @azclaimjumper
    @azclaimjumper 8 дней назад +1

    Going back decades to my Boy Scout days & pitching a military surplus 2-man pup tent, I've ALWAYS ALWAYS gathered large rocks to place atop pegs as soon as I've pounded one into the ground. I've NEVER, NEVER had a tent peg pull out of the ground during strong windy conditions in the middle of the night.
    Upgrading to 10mm poles is a good choice.to provide a lil extra strength to the structure.
    My one & only Hilleberg tent is the Enan - has provided me with reliable/stable shelter during strong gusty windy conditions at 9,000' in the high Sierras.
    Warm Regard from Reno, Nevada, U.S.A..

  • @CatherineMcNeight
    @CatherineMcNeight 15 дней назад +12

    PM: You've out done yourself with this tent review! First you defend an extremely stable and safe shelter, Then you reveal the practical "hacks" which elevate the Unna simplicity into a Spacious Sitting Upright Palace of comfort and utility - the Cooking Corner is brilliant!! And of course lastly you leave us with great techniques for added guys and a full lesson in breakdown and pack away. What comes across to the viewer is a bloke whose clear eyed common sense approach to the possibilities of this remarkable 'distilled' Hilleberg Shines Through!! Congrats, Grancrappy

  • @pootlingalong8928
    @pootlingalong8928 16 дней назад +5

    Have always liked the Unna - I like simple shapes and it reminds me of an upmarket version of the cheap little tents for festivals or garden camping we all bought when we were young. The peg-at-each-corner shape is classic and unfussy, love it.

  • @rogibaer
    @rogibaer 16 дней назад +5

    I used the Unna from the mid-90's for years. I DID miss a porch. I DID replace poles twice due to them failing when bringing the tent down in storms. (When up, it survived stoms brilliantly.) Looking back, it was definately my favourite tent.
    I'd love Hilleberg to give it the Black Label treatment, with clip-on poles, and room for an actual porch... maybe a diagonaly edged inner that starts at 70cm wide and is 130cm wide at the other end, hence, a 60cm porch. That would be my ideal ultralight 4-season tent! It would still be lighter than the Soulo, and even easier/quicker to put up/take down than the present Unna...

  • @frederickridall628
    @frederickridall628 13 дней назад +1

    Thanks for this great video.
    In my case Paul you are preaching to the converted.
    I absolutely love this tent.
    I've reached a certain age now and I'm done with "coffin" tents.
    It's a real luxury to be able to get changed without having to contort yourself, have ample headroom to use a Trekkerchair inside and be able to get in and out without burrowing a hole.
    One of the most misunderstood and underrated shelters on the market in my opinion.
    Never once have I regretted my purchase.

  • @kayasper6081
    @kayasper6081 16 дней назад +37

    The Hilleberg Unna is very underrated. In my opinion it is the very best and most interesting one person tent known to mankind!
    I have slept hundreds of nights in it in all kinds of weather. During long distance kayak expeditions I had to wait up to a week before the storm calmed down, in a very exposed little rocky beach. It is so good that there is some more space in it!
    I really love this beautifull jewel.

    • @frederickridall628
      @frederickridall628 13 дней назад +1

      Yep!
      We don't need telling do we Soy!

    • @tonwhelan
      @tonwhelan 10 дней назад

      Yes. If I paid that much for a tent, I too would convince myself it's the greatest thing since sliced bread 🙄

    • @kayasper6081
      @kayasper6081 10 дней назад +1

      @@tonwhelan It is even more: Some of the expeditions I made, wouldn't even be possible to do at all without this tent. However, it can be done without sliced bread.

    • @frederickridall628
      @frederickridall628 10 дней назад +1

      @@kayasper6081 Ha! 😂

  • @neonsamurai1348
    @neonsamurai1348 День назад +1

    The one thing that completely turns me off the Hilleberg red/black label 1 person tents, is the lack of a full mesh door with solid back like on the 2-3p tents. All of them have 1/4 to 1/2 mesh at the top. Also many of them have airflow/condensation issues, particularly the Soulo. If you get the mesh inner, it brings the price up to the Rogen 2, and only ~150USD away from the much better Allak 2. If the Unna inner had a full mesh door, I would be a lot more interested in it. I am in Canada though, and the Summers can get pretty hot.

  • @sirensynapse5603
    @sirensynapse5603 2 дня назад

    Black Diamond Ahwahnee is another great option, though the breathable fabric won't last as long as a Hilleberg. It's got insane headroom, two huge mesh and/or solid walls, a snap to set up, and super roomy. I used 2 of them for 20 years, then went to an Allak 3.

  • @petergilbert72
    @petergilbert72 16 дней назад +8

    Nice walk through of my ‘go to’ tent. A few observations from me for anyone looking at buying a tent (and who isn’t?😁). Some Unna positives not covered in the video : the front door actually is a three way zipper. I never open the bottom corner zipper of the tent. The long curving zip enables me to unzip one or both of the upper zippers to the corner and I step over into the vestibule. The curving inner door has a two way zipper. I use the top zipper in the same way and sit down into the tent. By not undoing the bottom zipper you avoid all the spare material flapping in the mud. It also saves time not furling and unfurling doors constantly as experienced in Soulo! (Incidentally the Niak lacks the Unna’s door features and also doesn’t get the views from inside when the door is opened from the top.)
    Another good point is that either end of the Unna can be the head end. If the lie of the land or wind direction is such just swap ends. It therefore suits right and left handed folk- Soulo is more convenient for left handed only.
    I think Paul overstated the interior length of the Unna. Yes you can push a mattress all the way to one end but the Unna’s ends slope at a 45 degree angle so there’s no headroom at the extremities (the Soulo in contrast has pre-bent poles with much more upright ends). I’m 188cm and I find the Unna’s 130cm length only just long enough. Add a strong wind and the outer fabric gets pushed against the inner despite the generous 15cm gap between them. I then sleep diagonally with my feet near a pole where fabric deformation is less.
    As Paul mentioned, pitching in wind before all the guylines get deployed is tricky. I find any wind above 25kmh (15mph+) needs care. I use my Unna for bikepacking (which is at lower elevations, and where free standing is often essential) and backpacking when forecasts are for slight or moderate wind. I have a Soulo and a Nammatj and I take one of those for summit camps unless I can be certain of little wind. The Unna makes the best of vistas to be sure but IMO is not the right tent for British mountain summits. But it is my fav Hillie nonetheless.

  • @frstesiste7670
    @frstesiste7670 16 дней назад +5

    I'd certainly choose the Unna over the Soulo, but for general use I think Unna is kind of overbuild and I'd go for Niak which is about the same size, but lighter. Wish they made a Unna Light Weight with the same materials as Niak. I always go for a sheltered camp spot over top of a mountains and better views though.

  • @paulridley9055
    @paulridley9055 16 дней назад +8

    Unna is used all over Scandinavia. Amazing tent

  • @suewheeler5795
    @suewheeler5795 16 дней назад +3

    I absolutely LOVE my Unna! Seriously underrated. I also use 10 mm poles in winter. It definitely has a vestibule. Tom Heaney did a great video on the Unna and Going Solo. It's really hard to get across exactly how much room there is in the vestibule. I store my bag and boots in the vestibule and have cooked in it too. The Soulo was wayyy too small for me. I love that if it's raining there is so much room to live in it. It can certainly handle weather and wind. It is a red label after all

  • @davehumpleby3440
    @davehumpleby3440 16 дней назад +1

    Very happy with my Terra Nova Southern Cross 2 used as a one-person tent. Yes, it's a bit heavier, but the room, robustness, dependability, and the 2 generous vestebules more than make up for it.
    It's palatial for one, extremely versatile, and I've never had a bad night in it.

  • @tomscott1159
    @tomscott1159 15 дней назад +1

    Most wild campers are 3-season campers. The first 5 seconds of your excellent video, as you prepare to empty the bag, expose a major reason why this majority of solo tent-users avoid the Unna: it's bulkier and heavier than other options for the conditions enjoyed by most hiking campers. Especially once you have added a small tarp, extra pegs, and maybe a pole or two in order to maximize the Unna's advantages. On the other hand, car and canoe campers can easily bring something a bit roomier. This is a fine tent, but it is best suited to a rather smallish segment of the market.

  • @ericpalsbring
    @ericpalsbring 15 дней назад +1

    I have both the Unna and the Soulo. Nine times out of ten I choose to bring the Unna.
    My Unna is 20+ years old and are still holding up just great!
    I absolutely love the use of mesh inner with Unna since you can open up the door completely and have a awsome panoramic view of the surroundings.
    But the Soulo comes on handy when pitching in narrow places because of its smaller footprint. And of course, as you mention, Soulo is more robust and easier to pitch in harsh wind.

    • @WayWordWay
      @WayWordWay 7 дней назад +1

      @ericpalsbring It's exactly the same thing for me. I have five hilleberg tents and four other makes, and the Unna is my favorite of all of them if I go solo.

  • @ergot57
    @ergot57 16 дней назад +1

    Well done. With a ground cloth this works very well I would think. Thanks.

  • @TDCamper
    @TDCamper 16 дней назад +2

    Thanks Paul, I think you are right, it looks a fantastic tent. Shame it is out of my reach at present. I would love to try it.

  • @davidjackson8829
    @davidjackson8829 14 дней назад +1

    The cord on the zip is a cool idea. Love this tent. Now I have that devil in my head convincing me I need it.😂

  • @sujoygupta2922
    @sujoygupta2922 14 дней назад

    GOODNESS, this was an amazing vid. It's one of those vids that you make that almost convinces someone like me with zero camping experience to drop a mortgage payment on camping gear and get out there ...and admittedly fail spectacularly at the enterprise. Still, ...almost.
    It's been great being subscribed to this channel all this time. Great channel!!!

  • @mulreid
    @mulreid 16 дней назад +3

    Southern Cross 1 is my go to 1 man stormworthy tent. Small footprint, solid as anything but a lot lighter.

  • @sixwestpoint
    @sixwestpoint 15 дней назад +1

    OK so I think this is one of the Best "Non Gear" Reviews I have ever seen....
    I have been thinking about a better tent for some time and the review you have produced on this has definitely sold the tent to me. I'm not a storm chaser but I'm a What if camper and often cancel trips because here in Ireland the weather at times scares me with my current MSR HH Tent it's really not up to too much when it comes to the wind.
    Also I'm put off my the Nylon Coffin 1 Man tents out there and I have contemplated a few of them. One of the stand out points of this review is how comprehensively you have shown the space availability and practicability in a normal wild camp environment. You have clarified the space and made it very easy to understand the space available.
    It's a really well balanced review Paul and I have to say that apart form the £820.00 price tag I think the Unna would be a more than suitable tent for my needs in the environment that I consider wild camping to be fun, which is not in 85mph winds or with 6 foot of snow around me. Like you say it also will last ten plus years and at £82.00 per year for the time I spend outdoors and in relative comfort and safety I think the price is acceptable....
    Thanks for this, your reviews have always been great, but this one, in my humble opinion is on a whole different level.

  • @WayWordWay
    @WayWordWay 7 дней назад

    I've got five HIlleberg tents, including the soulo and the Unna. The Unna is one of my two favorite tents while the Soulo I have to say is my least favorite of the lot. What is not mentioned about the Soulo is that it has abysmal ventilation and has the worst condensation of all my eight tents, and while this is a personal thing, I sleep on my left side - which has me facing the wall rather than the door side which I'd prefer. The Unna let's the user decide which end they can put their head, while the Soulo requires the head at the wide end of the tent - which is the wrong side for my tastes. I also like that the Unna goes up faster and only has two poles, both the same length. Lastly, if one is tall, then one will appreciate the 90" of length and the higher head room.

  • @Stoitism
    @Stoitism 16 дней назад +4

    More manufacturers should make this size of tent. I'd class it as 1+. It's the size i've been looking for but I only need a 3 season tent and I couldnt afford this even if I needed it haha.

    • @errbud
      @errbud 15 дней назад

      The MSR hubba hubba is a good 3 season option its advertised as a 2 man but its a spacious 1 man imo. Its served me well on many different scenarios. Its still a bit pricey but not as much as a Hilleberg

  • @dhcanavan
    @dhcanavan 14 дней назад

    Another genuinely enjoyable video thanks Paul. So informative. Your knowledge is unequalled and your manner is easy and friendly, not preachy and arrogance free. Have you ever thought of doing a comparison with some really old tents? I have a great quality 3 pole 2 man dome tent from the 1980s that I still use. It'd be interesting to get your comparative views on how design has developed in the past 45 years...

  • @jameshosking9233
    @jameshosking9233 15 дней назад +2

    Love the longer length review format Paul. If you think the UNNA is lacking in reviews, then check out the Hilleberg Rogen 2. Well under 2kg and virtually nowt (decent) in review content out there. Had mine for a couple of years now, and love it. Compact pack size and more space than you can shake a stick at inside + x2 BIG vestibules for gear and cooking etc. Clearly not ultra light weight, but a cracking 3 season tent (that’ll do for 95% of UK conditions) and is my one person ‘go to’ palace. On your radar? Never seen another out in the wild, and certainly no heavier than the UNNA you’ve just reviewed. Keep up the good work pal, love your content.

    • @chrisbishop6521
      @chrisbishop6521 14 дней назад

      I've Been using my Rogen for three years. Got caught in a bad storm last year with several other campers. By the morning I had four people sharing my tent due to theirs being destroyed.

    • @NotASheep100
      @NotASheep100 11 дней назад

      Reading these has convinced me to get something 4 season..not an ultralight tent.

  • @maurice5992
    @maurice5992 11 дней назад

    One of the best tent reviews I've seen for ages Paul. I'm not rushing out to buy a Hilleberg any time soon, for me it would be overkill, although I do own the Terranova southern cross 1, that should do for all the weather conditions I'm likely to go camping in. However, the calm and measured way you approach the subject is wonderfully appealing. ATB Paul.

  • @StephenJReid
    @StephenJReid 16 дней назад +2

    I've got my eye on this one since last winter. Bought the Terra Nova laser compact AS, but I miss having a freestanding 4 season tent.

  • @scottbecker3485
    @scottbecker3485 16 дней назад

    Great to see someone giving some love to this overlooked gem. Many years ago, before the ultralight movement really got going, I was definitely keen on getting an Unna, but my budget wouldn‘t allow. My years-long flirt with Hilleberg transitioned to an obsession with the Suolo, a brief glance at the overly cramped tunnel tents and a long wait for my finances to allow me to get a Hilleberg. But I kept coming back to the Unna as the theoretically best choice. Bingo! That said, TarpTent entered the scene, and my budget was good enough to get one, then another, and then another… (5 TarpTents in total!). This coincided with my age getting more advanced and my back less keen on carrying an extra kilo for a Hilleberg. And since I was camping only in Germany, France, etc. (and not the Swedish winter or on top of alpine mountains), the lightweight approach worked fine for me…even later in the Dovrefell mountains of Norway as my one „real“ adventure. Fast forward to now: Duplex all the way, and loving the lighter side of life. No need for Hilleberg any longer…but the Unna nostalgia you just triggered is kinda fun. :-)

  • @hedleythorne
    @hedleythorne 2 дня назад

    I may be out on a limb here, but I think the reason the Una isn't popular is that when you pay a premium price for a tent it needs that special or unique feature that you are investing in for specific scenarios and uses - for the Soulo it is a storm proof shelter, for an Abisko Lite 1 it is the compact pack size etc. The Una is a lovely tent but it's purpose is easily filled by cheaper brands as it has such a conventional design and so you're not paying extra for anything special. It is quite good in strong winds, but not exceptional. It has good space, but so does a Vango. It is waterproof, but so is a Jack Wolfskin. There isn't that "extra mile" in any specific feature. What it excels at is being "good all-round" - for that it is superb, and of course it is beautifully made. But is that enough to warrant the Hilleberg price premium?

  • @kieron4694
    @kieron4694 16 дней назад +2

    Thought you were going to say “it can be picked up and moved to where ever the f@@k you want it” 😂 ❤ the video and daily releases ✌️

  • @Cozzie007
    @Cozzie007 16 дней назад

    The Unna was my first tent I bought. Really like the brand, and I since have added the Allak to the kit. 1.2 kg more, but with two vestibules and doors. For solo mountain walks the Unna is fabulous! Very easy and fast to set up and more compact compared to the Allak

  • @thomaswestman9765
    @thomaswestman9765 15 дней назад +1

    Try a wettex sponge cloths, they are great for wiping liquid with

  • @stephengomme777
    @stephengomme777 15 дней назад

    Great video paul love the way you explain in a clear way everything about the tent + the pros & cons cheers paul 😊

  • @david-pascoe
    @david-pascoe 16 дней назад

    I bought this tent at the start of the year and love it. Used it mainly for bike packing earlier in the year in Scotland so far. It's such a versatile tent and so much room inside. Have used it with my wife on a few one night camps and it's fine for 2 although I wouldn't want to do it for more than a night or two. Vestibule is plenty big enough to be useful. Overall I've been really impressed with the Unna and can see myself keeping it for many years.

  • @twiggyescapes
    @twiggyescapes 16 дней назад +2

    Great review Paul... Love my unna since I got it... Definitely a more comfortable tent than the Soulo... Only use the Soulo now if the wind is going to be over 30mph...This vid is going to get the unna more sales for defo.. 👍

  • @cottonsky.
    @cottonsky. 15 дней назад

    I have Hilleberg tents . I have Allak 3 for several years and the last year i had bought The Hilleberg Soulo. I had the Soulo for its shape. For me is nice in high altitud like 4000meters, i am climbing in the Swiss Alps all year. I can not tell you about yours but is Hilleberg, good brand.

  • @neonjoe84
    @neonjoe84 16 дней назад +7

    With the 10mm poles you basically have a black label. Not forgetting the option to double pole if needed.

    • @missogyny4921
      @missogyny4921 16 дней назад +5

      At the risk of reigniting a debate I had some months ago on RUclips, you have to be a bit careful simply swapping the standard poles on various Hilleberg (and probably other) tents, for larger diameter ones. With tents and engineering in general, everything is designed to work in harmony to fulfill a certain performance requirement and changing one element can upset that balance, like putting a more powerful engine in your car without upgrading the brakes and suspension etc. I wrote to Hilleberg about this, particularly concerning stretched and leaking stitching holes around the hoop section on the Enan when using thicker poles. People online were blaming poor build quality, but Hilleberg’s reply suggested occasional use only of uprated or double poles. The message seems to be that if you need a stronger tent for the conditions you’re encountering then buy the stronger version. It will be a bit heavier and bulkier but there’s no getting around that.

    • @neonjoe84
      @neonjoe84 16 дней назад

      @@missogyny4921 Hilleberg advertises the 10mm poles as an option for winter use. No stretching or leaking as they have an option to double pole if needed. The pole sleeves have ample room for either 10mm, the standard 9mm or both together.

    • @simon7719
      @simon7719 15 дней назад +1

      Also there is the question of tent design.
      Hilleberg marketing links the use case to the materials, but an enan in Kerlon 1800 with a 10mm pole isn't magically a tent for polar expeditions.
      Likewise, the broad side of the unna I think means it's just not a black label design in reality. The Soulo otoh, probably is.

  • @NeilHorner
    @NeilHorner 15 дней назад

    I see the old orange cup has made a comeback ! Just got myself a new style one and I'm very impressed . Got it from the massive new Go Outdoors her in York , which is dangerously only a ten minute walk from my house !!😂

  • @TonyHobbs
    @TonyHobbs 16 дней назад +1

    I'd take nammatj 2 but this does look good and porch looks decent. I'm borrowing Chris's niak and the unna looks better .

  • @stevec-b6214
    @stevec-b6214 10 дней назад

    For me, the Akto in Scotland above the treeline, in poor weather, will fit small pitches. Unna for anything else.

  • @Zak_McKracken
    @Zak_McKracken 16 дней назад

    Since I bought the Unna a few years ago, I need no other tents amymore. I can user it over the whole year, it's cosy, roomy, and perfect for my style of outdoor trips.

  • @P--O
    @P--O 16 дней назад +2

    Super well made and interesting video!
    Regards from the middle of Sweden (actually the "home" of Hilleberg company)

  • @robinmaguire
    @robinmaguire 13 дней назад

    Great review Paul. A few years ago I looked at the Unna (for my first Hileberg) but went with the Niak due to weight and vestibule. Since then I have upgraded my Niak poles to 10mm, and the guy lines to 3mm, and now have a really solid tent capable of withstanding very harsh weather. Next on the list is a footprint from Lucy at Quintcraft 🤞.

  • @davidroberts5577
    @davidroberts5577 16 дней назад +1

    Excellent review Paul , thank you. Would very much enjoy a video on sleep systems.

  • @remigiuszlenski2257
    @remigiuszlenski2257 16 дней назад

    Great review, thank you😊
    For me, the amount of additional space inside the tent to keep you gear inside/dry is a deal breaker.
    Although Soulo is better looking, after few nights in Helm 1, I will never again get the tent where you can’t keep your gear inside while raining or even just pack your stuff and move it around comfortably.
    Thanks again.

  • @Gerdien2000
    @Gerdien2000 16 дней назад

    The heath is blooming, perfect scenery.

  • @martindalen-fw
    @martindalen-fw 16 дней назад

    Great tent! I picked up a used one for 260£ and it’s like you say;they last a lifetime. Great for 95% of all campingtrips and should be most peoples choice over the Soulo I think. Great video!

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 16 дней назад

    Yes Paul a new sleep system video showing the latest gear would be great!👍🏼

  • @colinmarsh5955
    @colinmarsh5955 16 дней назад +2

    Hi Paul, cracking video mate ( again ) . I own 3 tents an Unna which I love and is my go to tent . The materials and the quality of the manufacture of the tent are outstanding. The other tent that I like and won't be getting rid of is my Kuiu storm star. My God that tent is well planted and with a larger floor space than the Unna😮 About the same weight. It's also a looker😎 but it won't last a life time like the unna.
    The picture of you sitting in the unna with a blow up pillow on your head is going to be my screen saver 😂😂 .
    I enjoy your videos bud very informative but realistically so.
    Keep up the good work. 🤜🤛

    • @bobmatthew9538
      @bobmatthew9538 14 дней назад +1

      The Kuiu Storm Star not only has a larger internal floor space than the Unna, but comes with two much better sized vestibules (whatever happened to the original British terms of 'Porch' or 'Bellend' - well perhaps I can understand the now reduced use of the latter!!😂), so far less of a problem when you get 180 degree shift in the wind which is all to common in the UK. I would also question the assertion that it won't last as long as the Hilleberg - I own both Brands - and find the Kuiu to be every bit the quality of the Hilleberg, at half the cost (well, half the cost of the advertised full price of any Hilleberg, but you can often get good deals - I see Taunton Leisure are currently selling the Soulo at £890 [August 2024]) It also builds from the ground up, and the whole tents gives a little in the wind meaning the walls stay much better tensioned and it is soooo much quieter than the Hillies! Indeed, the Storm Star has replaced my Hilleberg as my go to tent of choice for all but summer conditions (or if I need really lightweight, when I love my Durstan X-Mid 2 Solid!).

  • @rockytopwrangler2069
    @rockytopwrangler2069 16 дней назад

    .. Wish I had the knowledge and availability of tents like this when I began backpacking 50+ years ago .... Some years ago I looked into the Hilleberg Niak ,, just couldn't handle the price ,,,, but since my start have invested the costs of 10 other backpack tents and 2 quality canvas hot tents w/ stoves for winter camping ... Backpackers today have gear with so many options that with future thought can get the most for their money the first time ... This looks like a good choice , but I think if I was to buy another ,, I too would go for the Soulo 2 person ... and would be money ahead and not be looking anymore .... Thanks for the video .. Stay Safe ...

  • @2dchrisk
    @2dchrisk 16 дней назад

    I've had my Unna on exposed mountains in Scotland, 60 mph wind gusts, It was solid as a rock, it's not as fragile as you might think! Never used extra guy lines myself, i think they test them upto 70mph. It's a red lable tent at the end of the day ^^ It can sure be fun pitching the Unna in those kind of winds though! Ha

  • @enternamedad
    @enternamedad 16 дней назад

    Great! Thanks Paul, I want one now! Maybe a shade heavy for my requirements but it’s a hell of a worthwhile weight penalty.

  • @jason4555
    @jason4555 13 дней назад

    Hi Paul, thanks for a great review of the Unna. I have both the Unna and the Soulo. I love the Soulo and when I used my Unna for the first time I thought I had made a big mistake getting it. The door really annoyed me with the oversized elasticated loops. I find the half open door a real pain as it flops down just where you sit or want to cook. However the fully opened door is lovely and the extra room inside is very welcome of course. As is the flexible inner (although you can also drop the inner on the Soulo too). As the Unna inner covers most of the ground inside already, I find that the Unna does not need a footprint like my other tents thus saving some 300g in weight. So although the weight is over 2 kg I can save 400-500g over the Soulo + footprint, making it a viable lighter weight alternative in my opinion. Of course upgrading the poles to 10mm will eat into that. I think the Unna will see a lot of use for me now as it can also be used as a campsite tent. The ventilation is also welcome and much better on the Unna. I can wild camp in the Unna on one nite then use the same tent on a campsite the following day meaning you have less wet tents to deal with! Thanks again for your video(s). J 😁

  • @samhill3496
    @samhill3496 16 дней назад

    I really like that tent. I love my Hillebergs. I trust my life with them. Motorcycle and winter camping can be marginal experiences and you want the survival side to be covered. Hillebergs do that. This is a free standing tent something I totally require. It allows fast set up in small spaces. something necessary in a changing climate. There are a few tricks with the drop down corner, the zippers, etc. It's a good go, compact and DRY. Venting is good as you have shown. Post covid and one can get the mesh inner. Brilliant workperson ship. It is a room with a view. Camping and tenting is a lot like working in a low coal mine which I did for over fifty years. Hell of a lot more fun. Love that pretty sky. it won't fall on you. You could sit in a chair inside the tent. I have tents in useable good condition that are over forty years old. Still dry still work. Take care of your equipment and it will take care of you. even the more affordable stuff. Unna is four inches higher than the Soulo. My stika is the same. seems Soulo is 39 inches high. Pretty slick in the wind. I always change my poles to 10 mm. It's just wise to do so. Black label vs red label is the thickness of material 1800 to 1200 kerlon and the 8mm poles, which are generally bigger than most tents which have 7mm poles. Beautiful morning view. Season is about to change. Ever try a Jannu, look them over. Very streamlined. I like to come out packed and ready to go except packing the ten into it's own waterproof bag for storage and moving on. Jarl of Norwegian Xplorer has been in over 60 mph winds and heavy rain with his Nallo 3 red label with 10mm poles. All good. Check out his channel. $860.00 USD for Unna

  • @kynasf
    @kynasf 16 дней назад

    I've been looking at the Unna for years! I have a Niak, which is great for summer, and similar in many ways, but it can get very cold and drafty in winter

  • @JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA
    @JOKKMOKKGUIDERNA 16 дней назад +1

    Hello Paul!
    This is super fun! I also just got a Unna!!!
    I got it because I wanted to know WHY I never got it but I have many nights in Niak, Soulo, Akto, Enan and so on...
    It will be intressting to start using it!
    / Matti in Jokkmokk

  • @BrianLogan-y1p
    @BrianLogan-y1p 14 дней назад

    Enjoyed your Unna video Paul. And i get what you say about the Unna but for me the Soulo is still the best option. Strength and design just love it.

  • @Tom-eq6vo
    @Tom-eq6vo 15 дней назад

    Think I’d go for the Allak 2 as the Soulo looks a bit cramped and it’d mostly be just a winter or summit tent with the weight. That being said I would consider the Terra Nova Vault Duo for the kind of camping I do, looks more than capable at a smidge over £700 now.

  • @millieblue5014
    @millieblue5014 16 дней назад +1

    Yes please do a sleep system video!

  • @jameskitching7860
    @jameskitching7860 16 дней назад

    Bought an unna nearly a year ago not had chance to get out in it yet will be camping out in it soon great tent 👌

  • @snoop2477
    @snoop2477 16 дней назад

    Still miss my Soulo. Top quality, bomb proof storm worthy tent for use in the mountains. No quality issues and the Kerlon fabric is the business. Ended up selling it as got a vizsla so was a bit of a squeeze. For mountain hunters in big conditions Soulo for the win

  • @ruairidhalexander7631
    @ruairidhalexander7631 15 дней назад

    Bought a Soulo in 2009, didn't like it, so sold it a couple of years later and bought a Nallo 2 but would definitely consider an Unna now, or more probably a Niak.

  • @CC-me7bc
    @CC-me7bc 16 дней назад +1

    You should try the Fjallraven Abisko View 2… same size, with two vestibules, top quality.

    • @Ian_is_Outdoors
      @Ian_is_Outdoors 16 дней назад

      I agree. I have the Fjallraven and the Unna, but they are very different. The View 2 is all mesh and great for summer. The Unna is better in cooler conditions - unless you swap out the inner for the mesh of course, but I’ve been trying to buy the mesh inner for the Unna for 3 years 😂

  • @ThePizzaByte
    @ThePizzaByte 16 дней назад +8

    Maybe half the reason there's no video on the Unna is because no one puts it in the title of their videos lol

  • @sam18a
    @sam18a 15 дней назад

    Nicely paced video mate, lots of experience based info and advice, should help some people with their decision making 👏🙏

  • @missogyny4921
    @missogyny4921 16 дней назад

    Another massively underrated tent is the Nallo 2. It’s the same weight as the Soulo with far more room and a brilliant vestibule/door arrangement. It’s more than strong enough for anything the UK is likely to throw at it and can be double-poled when needed.

    • @quarter105
      @quarter105 16 дней назад +1

      Correct. I have an early 90-isch Nallo 2 (with equal length poles) and it is still in great condition. At 2,4 kg not the lightest but very sturdy. I only had the groundsheet replaced. Which even at 25 years old wasn't a problem, they just took it in and replaced the groundsheet for 150 euro in total (including shipping to and back)

  • @garynesbitt5078
    @garynesbitt5078 16 дней назад +2

    The biggest issue with the Unna and indeed the Soulo for me is the Nallo 2 is bigger internally, has a large vestibule, is better in wind (certainly than the Unna) and is only 200 or 300g heavier. Makes more sense to me…

    • @stevemorris1323
      @stevemorris1323 16 дней назад

      And for only 0.3 kg than Nallo 2 get the even more spacious Nallo 3 😍

    • @PaulMessner
      @PaulMessner  16 дней назад

      I have the Nallo 3 also and it’s a palace.

    • @missogyny4921
      @missogyny4921 16 дней назад +2

      Absolutely spot on. If, like most people, the freestanding feature of the Soulo isn’t essential to you, then the Nallo 2 wins hands down.

  • @shadopyro
    @shadopyro 16 дней назад

    We've found you can fit two of the rectangular thermarest sleeping bags in the Unna. It's the 51cm one though mind.

  • @andrew-ij1or
    @andrew-ij1or 16 дней назад

    I looked at the Unna, looking at it made my heart sing! It's mine all mine! Yes its love! 😂❤

  • @markmatrix9287
    @markmatrix9287 16 дней назад +1

    Hello. Would you have any suggestions about sitting upright in a small tent like this. I find getting comfortable difficult and crave to sit up right when stuck inside for long periods. I've seen the pad /strap chairs thing but wondered about more innovative things that I may of missed. Cheers.

  • @garysmith7286
    @garysmith7286 16 дней назад

    Great review of an excellent bit of kit. The reason why i have not got one is the cost. At £820 its hard to justify, the add the footptint and stronger poles....... that's even more.
    Yes, it's a buy once use forever bit of kit, but still, it's a lot of money if you're just starting out. Having said that, if i was in the market and could afford it, Paul, you have a sale, lol.😅

  • @livinginmyownlittleworldad1905
    @livinginmyownlittleworldad1905 12 дней назад

    Hey, that was a great video! I'd love to see you do another one with Stephen Reid, but this time in Ireland. What do you think?

  • @RSLtreecare
    @RSLtreecare 16 дней назад

    Hi Paul. A very good and informative review. I like Hilleberg tents, I used one of there three poled tunnel tents in the late 70s early 80s. That seamed to be indestructible...many winters in Scotland. I'll take a closer look at this. Take care

  • @walkandtalkinnaturefordepr3357
    @walkandtalkinnaturefordepr3357 14 дней назад

    Hi paul just wanting to say how i enjoy your camping vids. I have never really wild camped. But i feel i have. I dont have the time to. So i do it with you. We plan and sort. Select our food. Take the weather and scenery. A good old slog up lots of sweat. Then a well earned brew. And pitch up. And boil or fry up. Ahh thats better. Snuggle up for the night awaiting the sun.Its great to get out with you. Then we pack up and summarise our great day. Spring in our step joy in our heart. That was great. Totally de stressed. Back down we go. Until next time. Dont worry. It wont be long. Your right paul your the star of the show. But in a way you make me the star. Because you bring me. Thanks mate❤.

  • @stevemorris1323
    @stevemorris1323 16 дней назад

    I got an older version of this tent off eBay for £350...it is great..I have a permanent badly injured left arm so have a massive almost double Big Agnes’s sleep pad that takes up virtually the whole interior space for comfortable sleeping....Pack and kit have to go outside in a dry bag.
    For me I can do all the adjustments you suggest before setting up my nights sleep system but I really do think this tent would excel with a purpose built front facing vestibule similar to the Nallo. Then....it would be perfect...at least for me.
    The Hilleberg Tarp five also looks great combined with this tent....& gives good front porch space....but if only they did the fold away vestibule so as to keep that big wide front view for good conditions.

  • @SeanBeasley40
    @SeanBeasley40 10 дней назад

    I can tell you that I enjoyed this video and it’s because I am thinking of purchasing one , but what do you think about the Snugpaks scorpion 2 or 3 , I have the scorpion 2 and I love it for 3 season camping .

  • @user-gn9yb5pz1l
    @user-gn9yb5pz1l 16 дней назад +1

    Yes please Paul

  • @paulturner7829
    @paulturner7829 15 дней назад

    For longevity i have a Robert saunders backpacker tent 2 man but 1 in practice only stopped using last year as some rubbers and straps need repair and that is 40 years old.

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 15 дней назад

    Cool tent

  • @jeffreykellett8660
    @jeffreykellett8660 16 дней назад +1

    I bought a abisco 2 lite brilliant tent bit more room sold my solo

  • @danielduesentriebjunior
    @danielduesentriebjunior 9 дней назад

    Great tent, great review!

  • @stephencollins9746
    @stephencollins9746 15 дней назад

    Like the luke horton hat!

  • @TiberiusWallace
    @TiberiusWallace 16 дней назад +1

    Another reason to set up tent poles first and breakdown and put away last is that if you sit the bloody things down as it gets dark and on long grass...... Good luck finding them.
    I'm not saying there's a chance you won't find them but it's a fucker.

  • @austieoutdoors9763
    @austieoutdoors9763 12 дней назад

    yes i agree with you paul i luv the dome tents have one myself. i allso like your patagonia top i have two patagonia high loft goose dwn hoodie coats £280 each just to use to sit in your tent with when its cold winter the things we do for our hobbie paul lol 😊

  • @mechellemulligan
    @mechellemulligan 16 дней назад

    I don't have a hilliberg but if i had to choose one it would be this one as ive always loved dome tents, ao a good quality one is perfect 👌

  • @walle226
    @walle226 16 дней назад +2

    Sweden!!

  • @bcamping1
    @bcamping1 16 дней назад

    39:06 Soulos guylines get tangled in with the hooks only if you have loops at the ends. Untie loops, no problems

  • @markdale8301
    @markdale8301 16 дней назад

    Nice video Paul. I have an Unna and have been very pleased with it. I went with it over the others for its room. I’m 6’4” and there’s plenty of length to lie down and sit up! The ‘lack’ of a vestibule is non issue as you say as room can be made. When you don’t want/need one you get more internal space!
    My main gripe is inserting/extracting the poles. Especially the latter. It can be a right faff esp in wind. Otherwise super tent.
    You say you have the mesh inner! I’ve looked everywhere for one (not for a while however) and failed. Any pointers to a stockist?
    Cheers
    Mark

  • @trendtraderx
    @trendtraderx 15 дней назад

    Luxury to sit out a few hours rain or all day if necessary is king and on a bike another kilo don't matter. All you need is a back rest.

  • @dk2428
    @dk2428 14 дней назад

    I have used a Unna for about a decade now and imho it's brilliant.

  • @ashab1
    @ashab1 15 дней назад +1

    I am not doubting the quality but it is basicly 30D nylon? I have seen many on eBay with repairs not knocking them and have come close to buying the soulo I just know it wouldn't last me 3 years lol hard on my kit, I do use a single skin dome polyester modified with 9mm poles and it is tough but cost less than a 100 but this is the one I would go for if I sold some stoves and radios

  • @lloydcozens9346
    @lloydcozens9346 13 дней назад

    Great video once again but you're making me consider another tent?!? :-)
    Could you say where and what those extra guy lines are and where you get them from please?

  • @craigansell5912
    @craigansell5912 16 дней назад +1

    Yes please do a sleep system latest up date I have been following you for years and come to trust your honest down to Earth reviews even though you don't do revues 😂 more a show and tell. I am looking to get a nemo tensor
    I have just got my 1st down quilt as I always end up sleeping with my sleeping bag open and a side sleeper and been 20stone it's a game changer
    Now, whonting to get a all year round sleep mat/ pad for u.k 4 seson and wondering if the tensor is the 1 Ihave been pashernet wild camping for over 20 years but there's always the next bit of kit int there lad
    P.s I'm a peak district loving barnsley lad

  • @millieblue5014
    @millieblue5014 16 дней назад

    You should try the Jannu or the Tarra, they are better and quieter in high winds.

  • @pmh9966
    @pmh9966 16 дней назад +3

    It is possible to move back the inner and sit on your Helinox chair zero if you are 5'8". Brilliant tent..