British Couple React When Did Britain & America Stop Hating Each Other? Short Animated Documentary
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Fun fact: Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was advocating for a formal US-UK alliance years before WWI. In an 1896 letter to the Times of London, which I will post here in full (it is rather lengthy but worth the read), he wrote:
"Sir, an Englishman who travels in the United States comes back, according to my experience, with two impressions, which are so strong that they overshadow all others. One is of the excessive kindness which is shown to individual Englishmen. The other is of the bitter feeling which appears to exist both in the Press and among the public against his own country. The present ebullition is only one of those recurrent crises which have marked the whole history of the two nations. The feeling is always smouldering, and the least breath of discussion sets it in a blaze. I believe, and have long believed, that the greatest danger which can threaten our Empire is the existence of this spirit of hostility in a nation which is already great and powerful, but which is destined to be far more so in the future. Our statesmen have stood too long with their faces towards the East. To discern our best hopes as well as our gravest dangers they must turn them the other way.
As to the cause of this feeling, it is not so unreasonable as Englishmen usually contend. It is the fashion among us to apportion the blame between the Irish-American and the politician who is in search of his vote. But no such superficial explanation as this can cover the fact that the Governors of 30 American States should unhesitatingly endorse a Presidential message which obviously leads straight to war. A dislike so widely spread and so fierce in its expression cannot be explained by the imported animosity of the Celtic Irishman.
To understand the American's view of Great Britain one must read such an American history as would be used in the schools, and accept the statements with the same absolute faith and patriotic bias which our own schoolboys would show in a British narration of our relations with France. American history, as far as its foreign policy is concerned, resolves itself almost entirely into a series of wrangles with Great Britain, in many of which we must now ourselves confess that we were absolutely in the wrong. Few Englishmen could be found now to contend that we were justified in those views of taxation which brought on the first American war, or in the question of searching neutral vessels, which was the main cause of the second. This war of 1812 would possibly only occupy two pages out of 500 in an English history, but it bulks very large in an American one, and has left many bitter memories behind it. Then there was the surly attitude which England adopted towards the States after they had won their independence, the repeated frictions during the Napoleonic epoch, and the attack upon an American frigate by a British 50-gun ship in time of peace. After the war there was the Florida dispute in the time of Andrew Jackson, the question of the Oregon line, the settlement of the Maine and New Brunswick line, and, finally, the hostile attitude of most of our Press at the time of the Civil War. Since then we have had two burning questions, that of the Alabama claims and that of the Behring Sea fisheries, culminating in this of Venezuela. The history of his country then, as it presents itself to an American, is simply a long succession of quarrels with ourselves, and how can it be wondered at if he has now reached that chronic state of sensitiveness and suspicion which we have not quite outgrown ourselves in the case of the French?
If we are to blame as a community for some at least of these unfortunate historical incidents, we are even more to blame as individuals for the widespread bitterness which is felt against us. We have never had a warm, ungrudging word of heartfelt praise for the great things which our kinsmen have done, for their unwearying industry, their virtues in peace, their doggedness in their unparalleled clemency when war was over. We have always fastened upon the small, rude details and overlooked the great facts behind. In our shocked contemplation of an expectoration upon the floor we lost sight of universal suffrage and equal education. Our travellers, from Mrs. Trollope and Dickens onwards, have been surprised that the versatile hard-working men, who often combined ten trades in one to adapt themselves to the varying needs of a raw-growing community, had not the manners of Oxford or the repose of Sussex. They could not understand that this rough vitality and over-bearing energy which carried them through their task implied those complementary defects which must go with unusual virtues. Of all English travellers to the States, there was hardly one who did not make mischief with his reminiscences until, in our own days, Mr. Bryce did something to rectify the balance. And our want of charity and true insight are the more inexcusable since no one has written more charmingly of England than Washington Irving, Emerson, and Holmes.
These personal and political causes of bitterness may each be small in itself, but in the aggregate they have assumed a proportion which makes them of national importance. Our journals and public men are in the habit now, as a rule, of alluding to America and Americans in the most friendly way, and that must in time have its effect, if recent unhappy events do not change it. One must have travelled in America to appreciate how kindly is the temper of the people - "angelic" is the adjective which Monsieur Bourget employs - and it is impossible to think that they can continue for ever to feel vindictively towards a kindred nation which has a friendly feeling for them. But the shadow of the past still lies between us, and it may be long before it is lifted. In the meantime we should, in my opinion, lose no opportunity of doing those little graceful acts of kindness which are the practical sign of a brotherly sentiment. Opinions may differ as to the value of Bartholdi's Statue of Liberty as a work of art, but there can be no gainsaying that as a visible sign of French friendship it carries its message to every American who enters New York Harbour. We have our opportunities occasionally of showing a friendly feeling. We had such a one a couple of years ago, when I ventured to point out in the columns of The Times that an offer of the Guards' bands for the opening of the Chicago Exhibition might do something towards a better feeling between the nations. The chance was missed, but others will arise. Above all I should like to see an Anglo-American Society started in London, with branches all over the Empire, for the purpose of promoting good feeling, smoothing over friction, laying literature before the public which will show them how strong are the arguments in favour of an Anglo-American alliance, and supplying the English Press with the American side of the question and vice versa. Such an organization would, I am sure, be easily founded, and would do useful work towards that greatest of all ends, the consolidation of the English-speaking races.
Yours faithfully,
A. CONAN DOYLE
Mena House Hotel, Pyramids, Cairo, Dec. 30
I have never seen this before and I am very happy to have had the opportunity to read it now. Thank you very much for posting!
Fascinating read. I never knew about this, thanks for posting it.
Thank you for the excerpt you have posted. I didn't know that Holmes was so socially, politically and historically concerned about Anglo/American relations. A good analysis of the facts concerning our relationship.
Since Millie is having a hard time taking in this "Speed Speaker" Like some of us. Try changing Play Back Speed to a lower speed.
It was more that the US and Brits favored each other before any other country from the 1820’s. There were disputes, but each favored the other country in situations like the Opium Wars or Latin America. Arguably, the Monroe Doctrine was supported by the UK, as most of their interests in Latin America were commercial, and neither country wanted a French colony shutting both countries out.
The British were quitte happy to let the French sort out the Spanish ,war is expensive and Britain was broke..
USA, Canada, Australia, Great Britain. and New Zealand will be long loving allies forever.
I sure hope so!❤🇺🇸
Canada too!
@@geoffreyherrick298 I apologize i did not mean to leave you guys out.
@@robertwilson2007 Tell that to French speaking Quebec !
@@texasborn2720Oui Oui
Basically, after the US Civil War relations were normalized, and all remaining tensions evaporated with ww1....
UK governments broadly supported the Monroe Doctrine, because outside of the faraway Falklands, Britain wasn't keen on acquiring new colonies in the Americas, while the Doctrine would discourage Britain's rivals like France from trying to muscle their way into establishing fresh colonies there, whether by settlement or annexation.
Hello from Chattanooga, Tennessee.
My mom is Filipino-American. My dad is best described as British-American (English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish by blood). I've been fortunate enough to travel to many wonderful places around the world, including the UK and the Philippines. Perhaps the best I can say of the UK is I never felt the ancestral feeling of homecoming until I walked and drove through Britain. I've never experienced the same thing in the US (and I definitely love my country). In some deeper way, it was as if I was visiting a favorite grandparents home.
Put simply, the US and the UK had similar philosophies on economics. We just want to have our business and trade with others.
I was just thinking about this yesterday!
🇺🇸❤🇬🇧 long love our friendship
From an American perspective I think many Americans feel very protective of our UK cousins even though we fought a war 200+ years ago to not be subject to the British monarchy. Ultimately America was founded and existed for almost 200 years because of English immigrants building their colonies here and we wouldn't exist as a country if that had not happened. I think for many Americans there is a strong familial bond between our two countries, and just like a family we also sometimes disagree, but we remain family no matter what.
The reality is that the US and UK are the most natural of allies. Most of America's financial and legal institutions have their roots in Great Britain. And you can't forget that the American colonies were founded by Britain. Many Americans, including myself, could return to the UK and find our ancestral homes. Over the last hundred years, every time there has been a war, the US and British forces have fought side by side. Their forces train together and integrate almost seamlessly. I well remember that during the Falklands war, while American diplomats made pretense to being even handed during the dispute, the US was arming the British to the teeth. Although from time to time there are disagreements between the two sides, it seems that the Anglo American alliance is as strong as it has ever been.
Fun fact: The modern British-American alliance has been nicknamed "the special relationship"
In the words of that half-American British politician and statesman, Sir Winston Churchill, "The United Kingdom and the United States are two great peoples divided by a common language."
The language is massive (for all the jokes about "divided by a common language"). The shared cultural history is also big--American law in its general shape is a direct descendant of English common law, so on the whole, we "get" each other. And of course, the Americans who fought the revolution against the British were, largely, British, with perfectly normal British sensibilities. I'd love to see you react to the musical "1776," which has a few early scenes actually devoted to the question of the Englishness of America.
Beesley's - I agree, you need to watch the director's cut of 1776. It's long - but oh, so worth it. It starts with them arguing about whether or not to open the windows (too hot, too many flies), chasing after any distraction to avoid working (the fire wagon) - and in the end voting unanimously to separate from England.
They tried to stick with facts, and not take too many liberties with the script. (one being Ceaser Rodney was off on colony business, not the cancer that killed him.)
It was also the Boer War that led to the special relationship between the British
and Americans. Most of Europe did not approve of the British fighting in the Boer War,but the Americans supported the British
in their fight in South Africa.
Watch it again and play it back have half speed!!~!
Just a heads up: there were multiple wars between USA and Spain.
Hello from Texas we love you too guys❤
I think I might have tried to watch that on .75 speed. :D
LOL that was very fast like speed history.
Love how millie is attentive to history even when shes trying to process how fast the narrator is moving
Oddly, the video doesn't mention the American "invasions" of Canada right after the US Civil War (from 1866 to 1871). While these raids were conducted by Fenian (Irish nationalist) immigrants they received no active support from the US government, but then the US government also didn't make much effort to prevent them. Regardless, in the wake of the recent Civil war, with Britain having semi-supporting the defeated Confederate states, the Fenian raids were a considerable source of tension between the US & UK.
A slightly slower John Machida. 😊
You have to keep in mind. We were never so different. Many of us are of English Irish and Scotch ancestry, Which i am Irish english and other half Greek. Not unlike ur New King. Alho he is only 1 quarter Greek like my son where as I am half. Not sure where any of this is relevant but still. Lmao😅
Prince Philip may have born a prince of "Greece and Denmark" - but his mother was born in Windsor Castle, a granddaughter of Queen Victoria. He had no Greek blood, his father was Danish and Russian by blood, and his mother English.
@@kristend344 His mother was Danish his father was Greek. My father was a Presidential guard in Athens.
@@jonathanfreedom1st LOL. time to actually read history from valid documented original sources.
Prince Philip's *mother* was Princess Alice of Battenburg. (his paternal grandfather was a British Naval officer and a German prince.) She was *born* in Windsor Castle. (PP used that tidbit to shut up the condescending courtiers who were lecturing him about Windsor Castle when he was engaged to the then Princess Elizabeth). She was one of Queen Victoria's granddaughters. (eta: Or great-granddaughter?)
His father is more complex, but he has no Greek ancestry. ("just" Danish, German, and Russian.)
PP's father: Prince Andrew of Greece and Denmark was the (younger) son of: a Russian mother, and
King George I of Greece, he was a younger son Danish Prince, born in Denmark. George I was brought in to rule Greece. (I've never bothered to read why, but him not being Greek was a contributing reason to why he was overthrown when the people became dissatisfied. That's why Philip was smuggled out of Greece in an orange crate as a very small child.)
George I's father was King Christian IX of Denmark.
PP's father grew up in Greece, but, again, he has no Greek ancestry.
Go read documented history.
You’re funny. I believe that many Brits fell superior towards us. You can tell by the way they judge the things that we do. I know that is human nature but it’s almost as if Brit’s don’t understand why we are so different from them. Lol
@@Kim-427 It's Europeans in general who feel superior to Americans. Not all, but certainly some.
0:05 That map looks like Britain is kicking the US. 😁 Britain stopped hating America when we annexed Texas and Mrs. Slocombe fell in love with J.R.
Not really because the British thought about helping the south in the civil war
I understood. Basically, Britain (UK) and America (US) had different objectives throughout the 19th century (America to expand the northern portion; giving up the Canadian territories and Britain expanding elsewhere) and so, caused no more difficulty (and at times even helped) to each other. Then, with having a common enemy (Germany), that brought relations together and we became allies.
So much info.. but unfortunately, so much missing info. Still.. I love you two🫶✌️✌️
4:57 you are so right in fact one of our presidents spoke up to 7 languages I’m pretty sure
During the Gilded Era (about the 1870's to 1890's), many US Presidential candidates boasted of being anti-British. The reason was strictly to win the election: In those days. the nation's most populous state, New York, was seen as a key swing state that would decide the election. And the most important constituency nominees fought for was the Irish - American vote in New York City, a vote that was (for obvious reasons) not fond of Britain.
Think WW2 is where it got better honestly. Before the war we had a whole war plan to fight Britain just in case. And to take Canada for it's maple syrup of course
It kind of makes me think of the history of the world in that it's fast and kinda expects you to know stuff about it already to make the jokes land, except there are no jokes and the explanations in some parts are really lacking in meaningful substance. So this video of theirs is okay. Not bad, but not as great as History of the World.
But for sure, conflict resolution is SO much easier when both sides share most of the same values and can communicate both freely/naturally and with nuance that the other side can understand. I'm an American currently living and working in Japan, and I can confirm that the friends I've made among the teachers are mainly the teachers who understand much more English than the rest. I know some Japanese as well and can communicate with the other teachers to a certain extent, but all the teachers are busy and it feels bad to interrupt their work to try to engage them in small talk. Even without any conflicts, not knowing the language better really does limit friendly relations, even with the best of intentions.
When we gained independence there was a proposal to adopt German as the official language, though it never gained traction in Congress, as German was spoken by only 10% of the population.
They also tinkered with the idea of installing a King for awhile.
There were some fairly isolated German speaking communities in the Texas Hill Country from before we became a state until well into the 1900s.
This changed after WW1.
They conversed in German at home, in church, at the stores, and the children learned both German and English.
They even had several German language newspapers.
Many still speak a dead dialect from either Prussia or Bavaria and they are the only people left in the world that speak this particular German dialect.
@@christianoliver3572 Not just the Texas Hill Country. There were German speaking settlements in other states. A friend's husband came from one. (Arkansas? Kansas? - don't remember.) Their town stopped speaking German during WWI because they didn't want the connection to Germany.
Because they spoke German, they had German POWs during WWII to work their farms. (Since all the American young men were off fighting the war) One German officer realized just how big the US was when it took days by train to get where he was going. He knew then Germany would lose the war.
Yeah they were talking kinda fast to the point in the video should of slow down abit explained it alittle better, this reminded me of a refresher coarse instead of a 1st time learning/ hearing it
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
I think the word "hating' is too strong a word, not thinking it was ever an absolute feeling of hatred. But soon after the Revolution was over and done with in 1783, there were already Americans and Brits putting together business deals. Of those Americans that were loyal to Britain during the war, the Loyalists, those that remained just blended back into what now was American society. There was a renewal of tensions between our two countries which eventually ended up in the War of 1812. But again, once it was over, it was over. Business, trade, interactions started up again. The last sore point was during the American Civil War with Britain continuing trade with the cotton-rich Confederate States using blockade runners etc. It was understandable as the price and massive availability of Southern cotton was a great business incentive for the British to supply their expansive cotton mills across the UK. Our two countries became extremely close during World War I forming an everlasting, unbreakable bond between our two great countries and people. I, myself, have had many awesome long-time interactions with Brits that have moved here to live, both personally and also through working alongside of them.
A lot of those colonists who supported Britain were forced to flee to Canada for safety.
Relations were even better for World War II the US lent Great Britain 4.5 billion dollars for World War II and it wasn't until 2006 that the debt was paid. I believe the last payment was for 83 million dollars.
You do realize there is an option to slow down videos like this when the narrator speaks too fast. Click on the settings icon. Playback Speed. Choose 75%.
Did you guys do a reaction to The war of 1812?
You could always change the playback speed to less than 1 if it goes too fast.
We haven't really!
I can see why James couldn't really remember any of this video despite having watched it because they're so much information and the narrator is talking so fast and he never takes a breath or gives the viewer a chance to digest and/or analyze what he's saying and Millie looks like she's being rolled over by a tsunami of information Renner-style which I can totally understand because I honestly feel the same way even though I love history and these types of videos generally but it's so hard to keep up with at this pace even though it seems well researched and put together and the animation is pretty good though I've seen better and why are you still reading this because I'm going on and on about the video which was enjoyable to watch but hard to keep up with which I'm sure was not the intent of the video's creator and I was wondering the entire time if it would be better or at least easier to watch if the speed was turned down to 50% so you had a moment to process everything that was being said before moving on to the next thing. Whew.
who said we stopped hating? lol
That video went to fast. Couldn't keep up. By the time I understood what was said, next info didn't make sense until I repeated the last info. Don't get me started with the illustrations. The Brits & the Americans must always stick together. We are each others' gifts from the UNIVERSE. Understood? ;-)
When we were coerced into joining WW1and WW2.
Anglo Saxons 😂
Guy spoke WAY too fast. He could have easily made this video 15 minutes with a bit more explanation of some events. This was like a speed run. 😂
You should do a reaction to war plan red ❤️❤️❤️
Play at half speed....
This is the first I heard that Americans didn't like Germany in the 1800s. That doesn't sound quite right. Why would Americans have concerns with Germany? Also, I think we were pretty friendly with Germany as there were many immigrants from Germany in the late 1800s and even after the Revolutionary war. And after WWI, America refused to sign the peace treaty because it was too harsh against the Germans.
If Woodrow Wilson didn't acquiesce to punishing Germany with the Treaty of Versailles, there probably would not have been a little man with a mustache nor a WWII.
If I rember my US history correctly, it's little talked about but during the world wars era the US did toy with the idea of reuniting with the British empire to form the Imperial Federation or Anglosphere. Ultimately the US did not join and the British empire turned into the Commonwealth and the US would go on to form NATO instead. If I'm remembering.
US, Canada, France, and Britain were all cofounders of NATO. So in a way we did all kinda join together in a pact. (and france was there too)
I thought U.S was mostly British. Mostly German, Irish, Norwegian,Finnish then British, Italian Ect...
Sure the British are now our allies but can you really trust people that drive on the wrong side of the road? ..... :)
I think, just my opinion, the predominant reason is the large portion of people from Great Britain and Northern Ireland who have made up U.S. Citizenry since the beginning of the colonies to the present. So we have strong familial and ancestral ties to Great Britain and Norther Ireland, and when you add in the other Commonwealth Countries, that percentage simply explodes. Of course, we are a melting pot nation, and we honor everyone. I think that the rest of the geopolitical issues spring from this. Maybe, I am wrong? Peace
After the boundary between the USA and British-owned Canada was resolved, then issues which would cause such hatred nearly all vanished. But it took time for memopries to lessen...
The US and the UK not only had common interests and language, but common culture and people. America was founded by the British and still carries many ideals from the UK to this day. It's inevitable we'd be best friends since we are extremely alike. Many Americans like myself also are extremely British by blood and that plays a part as well as you always hold a soft spot for the land of your forefathers.
I am Of Strong British Decent and Feel like I was Born in the Wrong Place. {America}
Bullcrap. First President of the continental congress was John Hansen Swedish not British. New York was New Amsterdam before it became New York founded by the Dutch. Many of the British soldiers were German conscripts fighting for the British during the Revolutionary war. Most American today identify as being German heritage not British. Most of modern day U.S. was never U.K. territory. Today's America was the territory of Spain, France and Russia never British.
You also have to realize that most Brit’s working in any government affairs spoke German, French, Spanish etc. they had to plus the monarch was German. Do you not know your own history?
Austin Powers
When we start looking at you as family. It was because of the Falkland war. And we were not allowed to help you. That pissed off. And from then on. Allies or not. You attack England. You are attacking family. The Falkland war changed we looked at England. Now you're not just allies. You are family. When you come here that's why can you come here we're so glad to see you. William s.
Clip moved way too fast and thats a shame because its a great topic. Dude didn't even slow down and left out plenty of pertinent information.
A fun fact. Almost all African Americans have British blood. You we're the one's sleeping with them lol
I think James' accent is getting worse. He's becoming completely intelligible.
Unintelligible
In short because of Germany. Irony royals have German ancestry. And most Americans identify with German heritage not British.
The guy in this video is talking way too fast, I don’t know if that’s his thing or what, but it would be far better to talk slower and pause to let things be absorbed.
I agree, I like details!🙄
Once we abolished Slavery
🤣 You can keep "King Charles"! 🤡 What a "Doofus"! 🤪
Britain's Biden!🤮💩🤣🤣
Even between treasured allies, wisdom and manners would seem to be a thing of the past. Long live the King.
🕵️♂️ If we are willing to tell the "Truth" about Joe Biden, then we certainly won't hold back on your leader! 🤴God Warned His Children in the Bible About Not Wanting A King to Rule Over Them For This Very Reason! 😱 But, at least we have a "system in place" to throw ours out, if they deserve it! 😉 Remember This: "Only Fools Are Ruled By Fools!" 🤪
😇 JESUS is the Only "TRUE KING" and I Will Bow Down to "NO OTHER"! 🤴
King charles lll is a good man and will do his duty and service to his country and commonwealth of nations , he is an advocate for conservation , the prince's Trust helped over a million young people all over the world . Educate yourself and stop watching u.s. networks that know very little about our history and monarchy
I have found it easier to keep up with fast talkers by not watching the video only listening and was much easier to keep up. I think its too much to process sometimes seeing and hearing
I think if I watched the source video again, I'd do it at .75 speed. Slow it down to make it more comprehensible.
I don't know why. Americans are mostly German lol Good on Teddy ❤