If MensConference have any more new Robert Moore lectures then I hope they can upload as many as possible because many of these lectures are pure gold.
DUUUUUDDEEE. So much depth and wisdom in a short video. I see a lot of men asking about "what does this mean, its too abstract?" The short answer is you'll know when you touch it. I've been there. Touching the "gold" as he puts it and allowing it to wash over me. Yet, with a boyish psyche my mind said like Gollum from Lord of the Rings, "My precious" and it would consume me. It wasn't until I completely surrendered to the deeper structures of my psyche and totally released my angst, fears, and wants, that I finally understood what it means to create your vessel. Basically you have to become no one, so you can become someone. (Even you read this, most of you are probably thinking, "What the fuck?")
Very well said man. I'm very close but I keep falling back towards the addict. I think my ego is afraid of giving up control, preferring to stay small. Enjoying the power of knowing even if it's only the confines of the cage I have created, but it cannot destroy the part of me that is always searching for the depths within me. Time to take a deep dive with some more of Roberts work and allow my destiny to unfold
@@nickmatthews7600 Love it brother. Proud of you for diving into your psyche. It can be a long and scary road, yet, I have found the most beautiful journey I have ever been on. In the garden there are 4 temples. These 4 temples hold what you are looking for. Connect with it without being consumed by it, and it will fuel you for the rest of your life. Each temple holds both Masculine and Feminine energies. You'll need to have a relationship with both.
The vessel needs to be strong through use. Over time a beautiful patina will form. This Patina will become part of the vessel therefore travel with the vessel for all eternity, it can’t be washed off. Bam, like that.
In reply to women finding their warrior energy in the 2nd half of their life -As a woman when I went through menopause, it felt like I stopped taking a drug, estrogen?, that made me compliant. I am more assertive now and I am studying a martial art. I feel more balanced.
There are two female authors I know who come more from a female perspective, Clarissa Pinkola Estés (women who run with the wolves) or Marianne Woodman.
You embody the energies of action /warrior, appreciation/lover, insight/magician, responsibility /king through doing what is necessary in your circumstances. You set your own world right, connect with your own gifts whatever they are and strive to become a servant leader, that is you offer your authentic gift to the world. This serves as the sacrifice of your grandiosity to something bigger than your ego. This way you ground yourself and avoid infantile grandiosity, by acknowledging that it does not come from you but from the well, and that you serve as a vessel. Sacrifice is the main theme of this journey.
@@ReenBlom that lines up with what I’ve come to understand recently through introspection. And have definitely grown quite a bit. That is to say have become more humble and try to help others more and focus less on my own crappy situation in life. But I still have problems opening up to people. I wasn’t always like this. Anyhow thanks for the comment. It was helpful
Begin building practices for each of these different quadrants. Warrior - physical body, exercise, martial arts. King - servant leadership aka volunteering, being of service (finding ways of offering your time and effort to help those close to you, family or friends) Magician - developing knowledge, reading, pursuing topics of interest for yourself Lover - creative pursuits. Create art, write, draw, paint, play an instrument, make one room in your living space beautiful to you
He sounds like television evangelist. With some bible quotes and the mention of Jesus here and there one could repackage this as a sermon! That Southern accent could put it over the top. Have to wonder if the borrowed their stuff from his recordings???
that's a Very important question. Please dig deep trying to find the answer. It's not unlike the Holy Grail of the Arthur sagas. Good luck, Knight Errant!
The cup, or the vessel, is the way to recover the gold. You need confidence, strength, selfknowledge. If you dont have them, the energy will destroy you.
Soon the citizens of the UK CAST THEIR VOTES IN A REFERENDUM: TO EITHER LEAVE THE eu OR TO REMAIN WITHIN IT. Where are the mature spokespersons for both the OUT or Leave campaign and The Remain campaign today? Those with what Robert Moore describes as those who have contained (and exploited) the GOLD?
you are not just divine. you are ordinary also. you are nobody AND somebody, nothing and everything at the same time. going into any of these extremes can be dangerous and “pathological”, yes
I wanted to like this but it is difficult. And is he suggesting that Narcissism in our societies is not really a problem? I need to better understand what is going on here.
you are getting hung up on assumptions. He is _Not_ praising Narcissism, but _GRANDIOSITY_ Which he acknowleges is a willd, untamed dangerous stallion, but what we Need to be Whole. "Narcissism" is too often misdiagnosis of Grandiosity, and there _IS_ valuable Strength in some features of narcissism.
I am listening to all of this, so eager to take it in, but it is still SOOOO GODDAMN ABSTRACT. What do MEAN 'addiction is a pseudo quasi ritual process'??????
Pseudo as in fake . He uses this word because he thinks the cocaine user does not intend to perform a ritual but it is our basic drive to create ritual out of something so intense. Because the intent of the person performing ritual is unclear,the ritual becomes quasi or half in and half out. He needed both words to show the individual’s relationship to the act and then the act or ritual as it would perform in a larger group socially. That is my hot take. It has been a year since your question so these terms probably aren’t so alien. That is how this material works with me,exposure and time.
read more fairy tales. We are designed with half our consciousness devoted to Abstract Interpritation and Expression. But without material to Interprit, you'll never learn how to use that Basic, Essential function of human consciousness.
I keep coming back to this because every time I learn something new
If MensConference have any more new Robert Moore lectures then I hope they can upload as many as possible because many of these lectures are pure gold.
he died 2 years ago
Keep coming back to these. So grateful for the forest of kings you have been growing in Minnesota. You are what you didn't have.
DUUUUUDDEEE. So much depth and wisdom in a short video. I see a lot of men asking about "what does this mean, its too abstract?" The short answer is you'll know when you touch it. I've been there. Touching the "gold" as he puts it and allowing it to wash over me. Yet, with a boyish psyche my mind said like Gollum from Lord of the Rings, "My precious" and it would consume me. It wasn't until I completely surrendered to the deeper structures of my psyche and totally released my angst, fears, and wants, that I finally understood what it means to create your vessel. Basically you have to become no one, so you can become someone. (Even you read this, most of you are probably thinking, "What the fuck?")
Dr. Dave Cohodes, D.C. working with the shadow self...
Very well said man. I'm very close but I keep falling back towards the addict. I think my ego is afraid of giving up control, preferring to stay small. Enjoying the power of knowing even if it's only the confines of the cage I have created, but it cannot destroy the part of me that is always searching for the depths within me. Time to take a deep dive with some more of Roberts work and allow my destiny to unfold
@@nickmatthews7600 Love it brother. Proud of you for diving into your psyche. It can be a long and scary road, yet, I have found the most beautiful journey I have ever been on.
In the garden there are 4 temples. These 4 temples hold what you are looking for. Connect with it without being consumed by it, and it will fuel you for the rest of your life. Each temple holds both Masculine and Feminine energies. You'll need to have a relationship with both.
This lecture is gold
This is great stuff, please keep it coming.
I really, really miss this voice . . . 😢
thank God for this man's work
That was just so awesome. So many insights, some new to me. Thank you for posting!
Give this Man a Banjo and let him go.
Wow. Hit home. I actually became psychotic because of not having 'micro-structures' when getting in touch with my God-self.
Did you then create micro-structures and what were they?
I lost my shit totally . Now with daily mindfulness , staying fit , good diet and a few good friends . Much much better
Excellent stuff.
Loving Robert Moore at the moment. The parsifal Myth material which he was leading at Findhorn has been awesome also
Simon Richard
If you can find an uploadable video on that lecture then I recommend you upload that lecture onto youtube.
Goddamn I wished I had discovered these when they were originally posted. Would've saved myself 7 years of alcoholism and addiction.
That is the Gold.
"Our past is our greatest asset, with it you can avert death or misery for another alcoholic or addict and there family."
FACTS
Get his book
King Warrior Magician Lover
The vessel needs to be strong through use. Over time a beautiful patina will form. This Patina will become part of the vessel therefore travel with the vessel for all eternity, it can’t be washed off. Bam, like that.
timeless
Thanks for sharing
5:10
9:55
Superb!
I keep getting more and more information...
The longer I look at the sun...
Rest In Peace rob !
9:45
"Ordinary people are not going to make it through this time."
Prophetic
Bryan O’Shea. Where are you at/
I will start looking for (or maybe creating) a men’s group near me (San Diego).
" They try to cure you by making you ordinary . " 💫💜🌀🙃🌼
In reply to women finding their warrior energy in the 2nd half of their life -As a woman when I went through menopause, it felt like I stopped taking a drug, estrogen?, that made me compliant. I am more assertive now and I am studying a martial art. I feel more balanced.
🐧 Thank you
very interesting stuff! but whats with all the shuffling in the background
it's a small room full of guys listening to one of their members speak.
This isn't an auditorium lecture, they are all close.
Where can I find a lecture where he speaks about/to the women?
There are two female authors I know who come more from a female perspective, Clarissa Pinkola Estés (women who run with the wolves) or Marianne Woodman.
How do you build the temple?
You embody the energies of action /warrior, appreciation/lover, insight/magician, responsibility /king through doing what is necessary in your circumstances. You set your own world right, connect with your own gifts whatever they are and strive to become a servant leader, that is you offer your authentic gift to the world. This serves as the sacrifice of your grandiosity to something bigger than your ego. This way you ground yourself and avoid infantile grandiosity, by acknowledging that it does not come from you but from the well, and that you serve as a vessel. Sacrifice is the main theme of this journey.
@@ReenBlom that lines up with what I’ve come to understand recently through introspection. And have definitely grown quite a bit. That is to say have become more humble and try to help others more and focus less on my own crappy situation in life. But I still have problems opening up to people. I wasn’t always like this. Anyhow thanks for the comment. It was helpful
Begin building practices for each of these different quadrants.
Warrior - physical body, exercise, martial arts.
King - servant leadership aka volunteering, being of service (finding ways of offering your time and effort to help those close to you, family or friends)
Magician - developing knowledge, reading, pursuing topics of interest for yourself
Lover - creative pursuits. Create art, write, draw, paint, play an instrument, make one room in your living space beautiful to you
He sounds like television evangelist. With some bible quotes and the mention of Jesus here and there one could repackage this as a sermon! That Southern accent could put it over the top. Have to wonder if the borrowed their stuff from his recordings???
4:28-, 10:29
What is the cup? I’m confused?
that's a Very important question.
Please dig deep trying to find the answer.
It's not unlike the Holy Grail of the Arthur sagas.
Good luck, Knight Errant!
The cup, or the vessel, is the way to recover the gold. You need confidence, strength, selfknowledge. If you dont have them, the energy will destroy you.
I think the cup/vessel is our body. So nervous system regulation and having a healthy body.
Can I ask where the art image is from? Would like to find it.
What is the thumbnail picture from?
16:05
Soon the citizens of the UK CAST THEIR VOTES IN A REFERENDUM: TO EITHER LEAVE THE eu OR TO REMAIN WITHIN IT.
Where are the mature spokespersons for both the OUT or Leave campaign and The Remain campaign today? Those with what Robert Moore describes as those who have contained (and exploited) the GOLD?
you are not just divine. you are ordinary also. you are nobody AND somebody, nothing and everything at the same time. going into any of these extremes can be dangerous and “pathological”, yes
I wanted to like this but it is difficult. And is he suggesting that Narcissism in our societies is not really a problem? I need to better understand what is going on here.
you are getting hung up on assumptions.
He is _Not_ praising Narcissism, but _GRANDIOSITY_
Which he acknowleges is a willd, untamed dangerous stallion, but what we Need to be Whole.
"Narcissism" is too often misdiagnosis of Grandiosity, and there _IS_ valuable Strength in some features of narcissism.
@@Lu11abiJohn Bradshaw also mentions this, (the healthy and unhealthy aspects)
11:25
A man needs a cup for his gold
I am listening to all of this, so eager to take it in, but it is still SOOOO GODDAMN ABSTRACT. What do MEAN 'addiction is a pseudo quasi ritual process'??????
he means that addiction opens the mind to unconscious elements similarly to the processes used by shamans in tribal cultures around the world.
You must expand your vocabulary and how words interact with each other
@@silver2zilver and better understand how*
Pseudo as in fake . He uses this word because he thinks the cocaine user does not intend to perform a ritual but it is our basic drive to create ritual out of something so intense. Because the intent of the person performing ritual is unclear,the ritual becomes quasi or half in and half out. He needed both words to show the individual’s relationship to the act and then the act or ritual as it would perform in a larger group socially. That is my hot take. It has been a year since your question so these terms probably aren’t so alien. That is how this material works with me,exposure and time.
@@pollobionico brother you _Nailed_ it!
Thanks for taking the time to answer!
Even though contains grains seems intended for the classic white american male
Is that supposed to be bad? If these men are so troublesome to society it would be to our benefit that they develop these potentials in themselves
@@nickmatthews7600 agree
Robert… winter claims her birthright! Or is it Carmella we have to talk too?
What the hell is this guys talking about? ABSTRACT.
read more fairy tales.
We are designed with half our consciousness devoted to Abstract Interpritation and Expression.
But without material to Interprit, you'll never learn how to use that Basic, Essential function of human consciousness.
This explains what I mean:
ruclips.net/video/Y6wwKP5livU/видео.html
Good Luck!