Ouch seems to really know this matchup well. He's not really falling for a lot of the revenge shenanigans and was punishing Incinroar's lackluster recovery really well. This might be the most I've ever seen Skyjay struggle, getting 0-deathed multiple times.
Lucina isn’t there either the characters a good for regular gamers but against top tiers and top tiers piloted by top tier players you need to stay at the top of the top apparently
Eventually we will see wolf at top level again, if we see formerly irrelevant characters like mario Luigi olimar and even banjo at super majors now it's a matter of time before we get a good wolf player. I'm hoping we get a top Japanese wolf sometime in the future.
@@Senayoshy agreed. Mario has so much more raw kill power compared to wolf. I can't tell you how many times I tried to pick wolf up just to put him down because I can't net kills unless I have a telepathic connection with my opponent.
jesus christ. did skyjay insult this man's family or something? do they know each other? or is ouch just this randomly hyper-familiar with the matchup?
@@prodwysp he faces the current meta better than wolf. Where wolf has to win 5 interactions on average for a kill, incineroar has to win two. Even Skyjay himself said Incineroar's slept on. Wolf doesn't have that random kill factor to win tournament, hence him falling off, it's also why Palu and Lucina don't shine either (and why Proto favored MinMin over Lucina before retiring)
@prodwysp he just said incineroar is a cheese character which is true. It's easier to beat someone who's unfamiliar with cheese than to beat someone with honest fundies gameplay with a basic character
Looks like Ouch! Really did his homework and Skyjay didn’t…or perhaps Skyjay was off his game this day..either way, good stuff! Ouch! has really improved!
Great set. I think it’s funny how they keep asking if they want to run it back, when neither really has secondaries like that lol should just be a given run it back.
i dont think its skyjay throwing nearly as much as it is ouch knowing the matchup really well and punishing skyjay for just about all of incineroars problems
This is a terrible matchup for wolf, everything wolf does, incineroar does better and double the damage. Its inmaculate how precise ouch player this one, readings, spacing, everything
As an Incin main, this matchup sucks. wolf can just kind of weave in and out of incins burst range really well. Yes you have to be very percise, but if you are, this matchup is like 7-3 in wolfs favor.
The way incineroar just brings back a game in 2 hits feels so busted seeing it within the context of a high stakes game. Ouch can hit him 20 times and he needs a single revenge hit to even the board.
Ouch seems to really know this matchup well. He's not really falling for a lot of the revenge shenanigans and was punishing Incinroar's lackluster recovery really well. This might be the most I've ever seen Skyjay struggle, getting 0-deathed multiple times.
He went off stage and died for it because he didn't realize incineroar wasn't making it back in game 2
I noticed that too. He practically threw away that stock @@empanothing
We have seesaw in our region who is probably a top 2 incin. They are training partners
Skyjay looked so predictable, you could tell ouch was purposefully baiting a lot of revenges outta him. Some patience would’ve gone a long way
Ouch holds forward
@@empanothingcap
Kinda sad we don't see Wolf at super majors anymore
Lucina isn’t there either the characters a good for regular gamers but against top tiers and top tiers piloted by top tier players you need to stay at the top of the top apparently
Eventually we will see wolf at top level again, if we see formerly irrelevant characters like mario Luigi olimar and even banjo at super majors now it's a matter of time before we get a good wolf player. I'm hoping we get a top Japanese wolf sometime in the future.
@@ragames7320calling Mario irrelevant is wild
@@Senayoshy agreed. Mario has so much more raw kill power compared to wolf. I can't tell you how many times I tried to pick wolf up just to put him down because I can't net kills unless I have a telepathic connection with my opponent.
@@ragames7320 unfortunately atelier pretty much dropped wolf for pt
jesus christ. did skyjay insult this man's family or something?
do they know each other? or is ouch just this randomly hyper-familiar with the matchup?
Yeah he just had no fear for incin at all
One of the best players in ouch’s region is seesaw, an incineroar player. Idk about the other two questions
@@mediocrity5693 skyjay boned his girl teehee
Skyjay did NOT feel like playing neutral that day
Lmao
Such an explosive set I just love to see these both chars in action. ❤
He exploded all over me
SkyJay talkin to himself between games be like: "Man I didn't press Side B hard enough in that last match, Ima Side B even harder this time!"
jajajajajajajajja
Sky Jay with side b on stage
Yikes! I came to watch my boy win, instead he got the spit beaten out of him.
How was ouch in losers and skyjay in winners with this type of gameplay?
Fundies charas kinda suck in this game. If you look at current top results most charas have some sort of gimmick or cheese to take early stocks.
@@crescentryoshi3717 if youre implying incineroar is a better character than wolf you are very mistaken
@@prodwysp he faces the current meta better than wolf. Where wolf has to win 5 interactions on average for a kill, incineroar has to win two. Even Skyjay himself said Incineroar's slept on.
Wolf doesn't have that random kill factor to win tournament, hence him falling off, it's also why Palu and Lucina don't shine either (and why Proto favored MinMin over Lucina before retiring)
@prodwysp he just said incineroar is a cheese character which is true. It's easier to beat someone who's unfamiliar with cheese than to beat someone with honest fundies gameplay with a basic character
@@crescentryoshi3717 thats fair, i just think in this matchup wolf has a massive advantage in speed
L to the sound
0 to death into lose the game is a true combo
Ouch making Skyjay look like he has 6 mil GSP
Looks like Ouch! Really did his homework and Skyjay didn’t…or perhaps Skyjay was off his game this day..either way, good stuff! Ouch! has really improved!
q paliza tan brutal jajajjajajajaja 😅 se noto la superioridad desde el primer match
Damn! I like skyjay but ouch just demolished the hell out of him.
I gotta buddy who is an Incin mane. He believes Wolf and Mario are Incin’s worst MUs. Ouch is kinda proving his point.
El skyjey todo chiflado queriendo hacer side B down B a cada rato, por eso perdió, ouch le leyó todo y se acostumbró
Wow that first game was the worst I’ve ever seen from skyjay lol he picked it back up though
Great set. I think it’s funny how they keep asking if they want to run it back, when neither really has secondaries like that lol should just be a given run it back.
何か良いな
悪の獣人対決
BC babyyyyy!!!
skyways worst performance...what is going on????
got autocorrected, skyjay
He lost in grand finals against one of the best Wolfs around, relax
@@Matesozen bruh
i dont think its skyjay throwing nearly as much as it is ouch knowing the matchup really well and punishing skyjay for just about all of incineroars problems
Skyjay ❤❤ so fine
I dont know why in the score the people write he/him, stupid idea
This is a terrible matchup for wolf, everything wolf does, incineroar does better and double the damage. Its inmaculate how precise ouch player this one, readings, spacing, everything
That's just not true? LMAOOO wolf deniers are crazy man
As an Incin main, this matchup sucks. wolf can just kind of weave in and out of incins burst range really well. Yes you have to be very percise, but if you are, this matchup is like 7-3 in wolfs favor.
Non pros arguing about matchups like they have the skill/experiences to fully understand anything will always be so odd to me
@@Matesozen true but it's fun to argue about things that we have no clue about 😂
@@Matesozen right
The way incineroar just brings back a game in 2 hits feels so busted seeing it within the context of a high stakes game. Ouch can hit him 20 times and he needs a single revenge hit to even the board.
Ouch back stepped smashed in all games, jay never did anything about it
It’s cause he’s not wearing the steelers jacket man
19:32 this sequence 😮💨
Why does it say he/him beside their game tag? Is politics now?
Because woke/commie propaganda has infected civilization to its core.
pronouns have nothing to do with politics
@@AbeBartlett Really? And what is the relevance of he/him/they/them beside their gamer tag? Why do we need to know how they identify?
@@BobbyFischer0000 it’s so commentators know how to address the players, incase they go by a certain set. Chill