P-47 Thunderbolts Planes of Fame airshow 2014
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- The sights and sounds of the P-47's that graced the sky's at the 2014 Planes of Fame airshow held in Chino California. P-47G 'Snafu' owned by Comanche Fighters, P-47G owned by the Planes of Fame air museum, P-47D 'Hun Hunter XVI' owned by Neal Melton and the other P-47D owned by Alan Wojcaik.
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Thank you for posting without stupid music! Those radial engines sing a fine tune on their own!
I totally agree
Especially on the boost , love that faint turbo whistle 🤩🏁
You nail it my friend.
Nothing is better than a Pratt and Whitney engine.
Persevered Democracy and for the human race 🏁 😀 👌
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10/10 video.
I enjoyed the first flyover with 3 P-47's and a P-38 and that is soo cool seeing these rare warbirds in this video.
Seeing that P-38 with that F-22 was fantastic. Wish I could've been there!
Visual and audible heaven!
I just love that engine purring away. I’ve read everything that I can find on the P-47/D-25 - 30 Thunder Bolt fighter bomber and the P38 Lightening they are two heavy hitters in my book.
God I was born in the wrong era for sure. I'm so over taken by the sight and the sound almost like it takes me back to old memories. The uniforms, the planes, the pride of being an american. The men who fought to the death in these had balls the sizes we couldn't even comprehend.
I agree so completely!
Yeah modern Jets are cool but they are essentially spaceships controlled my digital computers shooting weapons also controlled my computers.
These old planes were essentially supercharged 18 cylinder motorcycles for the sky with six 50 cal machine guns and bombs and fuel tanks instead of saddle bags. The Aviation Gasoline of this Era into the late 60s was the best Gasoline ever too.
Of course, beautiful warbirds and pilots, but this cam/editing work is EXCELLENT!
My favorite WW2 fighter plane, or maybe my favorite fighter plane of all time.
mine too i agree
I'm a lover of all WWII piston aircraft and the water cooled engines, such as the Allisons and the Merlins were engines to be reckoned with, but there's just something about the air cooled radial engines that words alone just don't complete.
Yeah they can still keep chugging along with a couple cylinders blown out 💪
Great camera work and no music!!!!! Thank you for this video
My dad, Jim Kenney, was a Crew Chief with the 56th FG-the razorback was his favorite.
Who said something like "when your out of glycole your out of mustangs, when your out of P-47's your are out of air planes".
3 eargasms in a row with no cigarette break between when those jugs came taxing towards the camera. what an awesome experience. lol
I gotta say, "Snafu" is gorgeous!
A man I know, Ed Ellington had flown the #40 Hun Hunter when it was in the 57FG, 65FS. His own plane, #57, "The Fahr" was his regular bird.
He can be seen in the movie," Thunderbolt". He was sitting in a T-bolt smoking a cigar waiting for the call to go. Hands cigar to Crew Chief. Says," Here hold this. I'll be right back" or something like that.
He was also the CO of the 57FG late in the war after Gil Wymond.
Sounded amazing through headphones. Nice job
Raptor had a helluva time keeping up with the props......Thanks for the music DELETE!
Great Jason! Thank you. I just desided that i will go to Reno in 2020. My 65th. birthday. This is something a motor nerd shold have visited before his terminal breath! ;-)
Good to see you guys are taking good care of "Snafu" - She used to be based here in England not that long ago
My favorite WWII fighter.
My father flew P-47's. Got one verified ME262 'kill' and another likely. Was shot down over western Germany. Was in a POW camp, thankfully for only a short time.
Thank you!
So many beautiful planes.
P47!! A beautiful beast!!! I love that big basturd!!!!
Just such a great video of such beautiful warbirds!!!!!!! Absolutely awesome!!!!!!
thank you so much for putting this out War Winners for sure!
Beautiful!
The formation while the Star Spangled Banner is being sung is SO moving. CHILLS
IMO the finest all round fighter plane in the USAAF inventory.
Define "all round".
Love that radial sound. Having an F-22 join them was absolutely great.
Robert S Lockheed P-38 and F-22
Can't believe how big the F-22 is made the others look like toys!
Stunning!
As a child I used to have a cast metal toy one of these with spring loaded folding landing gear and all. I completely destroyed it through play. I wish I had it today. I'm sure it would be worth some good money.
Its too bad.. i feel sorry dude
Lots of absolutely stunning aircraft there.
Love the Thunderbolts. Big & Bad-Ass. Probably the most durable fighter of the war. It could take an absolute pounding, and still stay in the air. Hits that would take down other aircraft, the P47 pilot would barley take notice of. It wasn't the most maneuverable fighter, but that size & power meant it could dive away from just about anything.
love the p47 its my favorite its radials are awsome the beast is the heavyist piston engined plane in the world its also called the jug or 7 ton milk bottle
“My p47 was a pretty good ship
Took a round coming cross the channel last trip
Just thinkin bout my baby and letting her rip
Always got me through so far♨️🎵🎵🎵”
Is that a Steve Earl reference?
falconeaterf15 yup
Fantastic video, love the engine sound at 9:13 - 18 cylinders and 2000hp of awesomeness:)
I'm pretty sure most p47d variants have 2600hp
Can these people appreciate the magnificent plane that is the P-47 for even a second without bashing it? It was fast, it was powerful, and most of all, *IT GOT THEM HOME!*
Q:but why does the spitfire have more kills?
A: the spitfire entered combat in 1940-ish. The P-47 entered the fray in 1943.
(No disrespect for the spitfire. I love it too!)
The top ten P47 aces survived the war, no other fighter on anybody's side can lay claim to that.
@@dukecraig2402 : The aces' survival spoke volumes about their combat flying skills. However, they had the Jug's amazing ability to survive serious battle damage to help keep them safe.
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Yes, that's the point, it's survivability on top of the fact that it's an effective fighter.
About 7,000 more Spitfires were built than Thunderbolts, and the Spitfires were engaging the Germans more than three years before Thunderbolts were. The Thunderbolts had less than a year after their first operational missions on April 8, 1943, to engage the Germans, before the latter suffered catastrophic losses from which they never recovered. The Spitfire was not the Allied fighter the Germans feared most; it was the Thunderbolt. With good reason: when a Thunderbolt attacked, it was almost always from a position of overwhelming advantage.
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Man, What a beast of a plane. Am I right?
Scamcaster the old Jug.
First time i seen a P-47 I told my wife that is a fighter plane . I didn't even no what it was . It has that look as soon as you see it . Wicked Wabbit !
7:55 damn you guys know how to put on a show !!
How much is that Raptor struggling !
Let's face it, these are some of the planes that saved the world back in the day. As high tech then as the Raptor is now. Thanks for posting.
I'll never forget the comments made about this wonderful flying "Jug" of WWII by one of the actual pilots who flew it during the war when he spoke about it on a TV special. He was just a little guy, about 5'6" or so, and said he was just handed a small flight handbook on the plane and then expected to fly it that day! He was scared to death of its immense size and weight, but later said that once he got it in the air under control - it was the sweetest, nicest handling fighter he had ever had the pleasure to fly!!
We have one at our air museum and I can truthfully say - the P-47 is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder it took so much to shoot one down....and what firepower it carried.....Wow!!! And such a beautifully crafted very reliable monster engine!!!!!!
Beautiful
I saw the movie "Fighter Squadron" when I was a kid, and I got hooked on P-47s! Eight "Ma Deuces" can turn hardware into junk in a hurry.
Excellent video - outstanding camera work.
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Excelente vídeo. Nota 10.
Approximately 700 P 47 Thunderbolts were built at the Republic factory in Evansville, Indiana. The weekly Republic factory newsletter - Evansville, Indiana was published weekly ; there are numerous articles, published in the weekly Republic factory newsletter, featuring the members of the Womens' Army Air Corp pilots, ferrying the newly- constructed P 47 Thunderbolts, from the Evansville, Indiana Republic factory, to the coasts, to await transport overseas to our male Army Air Corp pilots !!! Happy Friday to WARBIRDS fans !
the flying tank 💙
Those big radial engines sound great … flying hot rods
That was so fucking Beautiful!
I dunno, there's just something about a radial that so much more sexier.
You P-51 fanboys can stuck it!
What he said. :)
I like this and the P-51. The Red Tails flew P-40s, P-39s, P-47s and P-51s. I think they also flew a P-63 but I'm not entirely sure. Any plane that a red tail flew is an awesome plane!!
Yeah you can definitely tell the difference in style between the American and British made engines. I love the sound of a Merlin also but the PW definitely has the bigger set if you know what I mean
Mr.Clem both are excellence in the best in the world in their own Realm at the time
Mr.Clem Gotta love the sound of round 👍🏻
Oh that R2800 Pratt & Whitney with a huge GE Turbo 🤩❤️🏁
Canadian Air Force also used the thunderbolt in world war 2. 👍
That silver "WZ" definitely seems to be tuned-up far better than the other aircraft. Granted anything 60+ years old and still in flightworthy condition is simply incredible, but whatever team is responsible for the maintenance service and tuning of that plane is certainly first-class. Notice the start time of the two in the distance, when this one begins it's fired and stabilized while others are still cranking. Also on the taxi shot and takeoff roll this plane sounds like it just rolled off the assembly line. Kudos, definitely represents unbelievable blood sweat and tears!
These were built local to me, at the Republic main plant at the corner of Conklin St and Route 110 in East Farmingdale Long Island. I was able to drive through the plant as it was being shut down in 1987. Its a shame that it is all gone now, except for one hanger that is the American Airpower Museum. They built approximately 9,500 of them right at that plant, and built more at a second plant in Evansville Indiana.
That F-22 looked a bit shaky in formation. Must have been near stall speed.
That poor F-22 pilot was having a helluva time keeping formation at that slow a speed.
Nice video,I love to own a p-47 ,p-51 mustang ,spitfire ☺
The P-47 was a flying tank... an absolute beast...
Thank you, thank you, thank you for don't add lame music in this video. The Pratt & Whitney radial engines create the perfect soundtrack.
As heavy as the P-47 was it had great things you'd like about it and with 8 50 cal guns it was hated by the germans way back then.
Nothing like the snarl of a big radial engine at takeoff. Those liquid-cooled V12s sounding wimpy by comparison.
The Thunderbolt was like a flying sledgehammer: it could smash the enemy to pieces. I can’t begin to imagine what was running through German soldiers’ minds when P47s came swooping down at nearly 500 MPH and started shooting.
Wow the warbirds flying in formation with a f22 was cool , the warbirds r so much more gracefull
It looked liked the F22 pilot was struggling to fly that slow.....I can hear it now F22 can you guys speed up a little bit more, I can't fly that slow....p47 but were peddeling as fast as we can.......
RC Surf P-47 is a beautiful workhorse. a lot more lives would have been saved in korea if we used that for ground attack instead of the p-51. but no the generals wanted their fancy planes that look nice. Same thing like what they are doing today with the A-10.
I have a feeling the F-22 was close too stall speed. It's not designed to sustain a cruise speed of 180mph like these WWII fighters were lol.
Nicely done. What camera/mic combination did you use?
+airailimages
I shoot with the Panasonic AG AC-160A and I use the Rode NTG2 shotgun mic. Thanks for the kudos on the vid, I'll be heading back next weekend for this years show, so check back soon!!
I'll be there too, for publications and online video. Would be good to talk with you.
+airailimages Cool, hopefully we can hookup, I'll be on the ramp Friday afternoon and heading back home after the show on Sunday. I'll be out with the planes from the VIP tent area, to the east end of the hot ramp. See you there!!
Até arrepia de ver esses aviões voando
Wow!
Col. "Hub Zemke of the 56th Fighter Group sent to England, during WWII LOVED THE Jug. He commanded the 56th was the second highest scoring group 900 and some.The 4th Fighter was highest with over a 1,000 kills. Commanded by Donald Blakeslee who hated the P-47
The F22 is not struggling as bad as an F14 Tomcat. Forget the year but it was a Navy Aviation anniversary. For the flight they had the F14, Hellcat, Bearcat and Grampa Wildcat. The Wildcat looked like the Flintstone car trying to maintain speed, while the F14 was visibly wobbling on the ragged edge of stall. The 14 was the obvious choice to pull up for the Missing Man formation. Bet the pilot was glad to add more power.
One of the old guard said, "If you want to get a girl, fly a p-51. If you want to survive to go home, fly a P-47".
In the formation with the F22, I would think that the F22 is about to stall!
There are some good reason to live in California.
Both "Razorbacks" shown are Curtis built G models, are there any Republic examples flying or under restoration ?
Curtis built P47's claim to fame is their poor build quality, built after the P40 line was shut down , but the Curtis P47 were never sent to combat, left behind for training, too bad as Curtis did build good quality in the P40....
is that the true original "hun hunter"?
What does "sky's" mean?
which would you rather fly? a p51 or an f86 ?......for me thats a hard choice....i love so much about both.....i guess in the end id pick the p51...if i could shoot the guns then id pick an f86 or a p47
Thunderbolts had the Hellcats Engine also the corsair was fitted with the same engine (pratt n whitney) The Hellcat you could see over the nose of the plane when sitting in it on the ground, the others you couldnt. The Hellcat was lighter and also easy to land on the carrier ships the thunder bolt needed a long runway the propeller on the thunderbolt was so big it would almost touch the ground,,thunderbolt was like the B17 little brother it could carry half the load as the B 17.///The Engines of these planes were massive.///The Hellcat was the least modified fighter plane of the War. Then there was the P51 mustang it was the most modified fighter, four years of modifications. and unlike the others it had a water cooled engine..one hit to the radiator and it had to land but it is more than credited as an Awsome air combat Fighter. The Hellcat,Thunder Bolt, Corsair were stucturely designed to absorb alot of gun fire and did. These planes had alot of capabilities,and lots of duties. These planes In the hands of the pilots that flew them performed with Excellence ****************
What saved Britain in WW ll was American manufacturing! What won Britain the "Battle of Britain" was the 100 octane fuel that you got from the United States delivered from the Exxon tanker Bunker Hill just in the nick of time that let your Rolls Royce Merlin's perform on par with the ME-109's. What saved Britain from defeat was letting Packard rebuild your Rolls Royce Merlin from the blueprints to the final product using superior materials and state of the art manufacturing principles that were far better than the "hand made" (which equates to no consistent quality) junk Rolls Royce was putting out. And finally what saved Britain from defeat was American blood to get you out of another war you started in the your long history of trying to concur the world (British Empire Conquest!) Bullshit!
18tangles shit planes but were a lot better and the p51 couldn't take damage to the engine for shit but r2800 planes took a lot of damage
True they needed a loonng runway. Trivia...there is a road called New Highway that skirts round the perimeter of Republic airport. In the old days it was straight (going north and south), they had to re-route the road, make it dog leg around the longer runway, lengthened to accommodate the take off roll of the Thunderbolts.
When you turn final in a p 51 the runway disappears when you turn final in a p47 the whole airport disappears so said a old p47 pilot l once knew.
Lovely! But from now on in such rare events like this they should first cut out all music, close formation flying but do a strafing run or two with live fire so people can see how awesome that must have been.
Can't help but be surprised how nobody uses the P-47's for air races. They'd be great. One of the fastest planes in the straights, and the fastest planes in the turns -- especially coming out of the turns. The P-47's a big girl with a lot of mass and an extremely powerful engine, so she holds energy and speed throughout a turn very well.
Just watched some Reno races, the same thought occurred to me. The XP47(J?, experimental) was a lightened, unarmed model, the first prop-driven single-engine aircraft to break 500mph in level flight. The XP47H also clocked 500-505mph(unofficially), powered by a 16 cylinder Chrysler inline engine. 47s are probably too rare today to chance racing.IMHO, the 47 was the best, most destructive single-engine fighter for the Allies in the European theatre. P51s ended up with more air kills, after spring of '44, & the Germans had lost a large portion of their experienced combat pilots. Also, at that time most 47 squadrons were relegated to ground attack, where they saw little in the way of air to air combat.(I believe the 56th continued escort duty in the upgraded 47s, including the M model, which clocked in at 473mph) The Allied soldiers were amazed at the destruction to the Wehrmacht they came across in Europe, mostly handed out by 47s & Hawker Typhoons. Yeah, I've been a Thunderbolt fan since the first time I saw a photo of one, about age 9 or 10:)
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Wherein what you and the original poster said is all true the problem with using P47's in the Reno air races is that they had their best performance at medium and high altitude, the Reno air race is around 5,000 ft above sea level which is considered low altitude to a WW2 fighter, in the real world during WW2 P47's didn't even use their turbo below 7,000 ft (approximately, depending on atmospheric conditions).
The best plane/engine combination for that, and for the life of me I've never understood why no one's tried it, would be a P51 fitted with the Allison engine, the 2 stage Merlin engine that everyone uses for air racing suffers from an extra 250 HP parasitic power loss from driving the 2nd stage.
Each stage of a supercharger drags about 250 HP off of an engine while being driven, a fighter in WW2 that operates from relative sea level to high altitudes benefitted from a 2 stage 2 speed supercharger because it could run it's supercharger in low speed at lower altitudes without having to have the throttle reduced to keep from overboosting the engine, then as it gained altitude and ran out of breath the supercharger would be shifted into it's high range to provide enough boost in the thinner air, despite loosing the additional 250 HP from driving a 2nd stage this benefitted the aircraft by making more useable power at different altitudes instead of being optimized for either low or higher altitudes.
The single stage Allison engine makes more power at the prop shaft because it doesn't have a 2nd stage dragging an extra 250 HP off of the engine, most people are surprised to find out that the original P51A with it's single stage supercharger Allison engine was actually faster than a MKIX Spitfire with it's 2 stage Merlin below 5,000 feet for that very reason.
That's why all the USAAF combat aircraft of WW2 had engines with single stage superchargers and turbos that would start to feed the single stage supercharger at around 7,000 to 9,000 ft, the B17's, B24's, P38's, P47's all utilized that system, even the P39 and P40's were originally supposed to have this same system on them but their development time got cut short because the war in Europe broke out in 1939 and the Allied forces over there were screaming for airplanes so those two planes had the turbos dropped from them to get them into production quicker (for the intended version of the P40 look up XP37, you'll see what the P40 was originally supposed to be).
Turbos, unlike superchargers, don't cause parasitic power loss being driven because they're waste energy recovery systems, ie they're driven off the exhaust which is wasted energy leaving the engine.
In the mid 1930's NACA did a study and determined that the best system for power at all altitudes was a single stage supercharger, fed by a turbo at higher altitudes, the US Navy rejected this system in favor of 2 stage 2 speed superchargers because aircraft maintenance on a carrier is a whole different story then on land based aircraft, there's limited space for spare parts and limited personnel to perform maintenance so they went with the simpler 2 stage supercharger systems, but this is why an F4U and the F6F have lower service ceilings than a P47 despite having the same engine, it's the supercharging systems that make the difference, just as a single stage supercharger runs out of breath after a certain altitude so does a 2 stage supercharger after it reaches a certain altitude.
The "critical altitude" rating of an aircraft is a term most people don't know and you rarely see listed outside of the NACA reports, a critical altitude rating is actually on the engine and not the aircraft itself, that's the altitude that an engine can make it's maximum power, P47's have a higher critical altitude rating than the F4U or the F6F because of it's single stage supercharger fed by a turbo at higher altitudes, at "cruise power" throttle settings the engine in a P47 actually has a higher critical altitude than the aircraft's service ceiling which is 42,000 ft, at cruise power the engine was capable of making it's cruise power rating above that, that's incredible.
Most of the B17's, B24's and P47's that you see in air shows nowadays don't even have working turbos in them because the aircraft don't generally fly above 10,000 ft, they don't have working oxygen systems in them for the crews much less a B17 that's taking passengers for rides so having working turbo system's on them is pointless, you'd wind up killing the passenger's from hypoxia.
Towards the end of the war the USAAF finally paid Allison to develop a 2 stage 2 speed supercharger system for use in the Twin Mustang, only the first 20 pre-production Twin Mustang's had the same 2 stage Merlin engine that was used in the P51D because the 2 stage Allison wasn't ready yet, however when the plane went into production it had the 2 stage Allison engine in it which was more powerful than the Merlin using the same type of system.
One of those 2 stage Allison engines was test fitted into a P51, it was known as the P51J and it was a 491 MPH aircraft, however not many of those engines were made and there probably isn't even a working example of one in existence, the only flying Twin Mustang in the world is one of the pre-production Merlin versions, they make 200 HP per engine less than the Allison with the same 2 stage type supercharger system.
Why no one's tried using a P51 fitted with a single stage Allison engine optimized for maximum boost at 5,000 ft is beyond me, maybe it's just that no one's thought about it, having been to aircraft maintenance school and also having built performance motorcycle engines for a living for the past 30 years I can tell you that aircraft mechanics don't think outside of the box very much, it's just not in their nature to do it since that trade is so strictly regulated by it's very nature.
What does it take these days to become type-certified on a Thunderbolt or other warbird? I believe there are fewer than a dozen P-38's that are airworthy; who checks you out on a Lightning?
You would need to FAA rating for high performance aircraft, have a few hundred hours in something like a Stearman, a couple of hundred hours in a T-6, a couple of hundred hours in something like a P-51, advance training from a warbird school like Stallion 51, and a good record of flying safely. Then volunteering at one of the museums that operates them for a few years. Learning the plane and it's systems inside and out and waiting for your chance. Or you could just get rich and buy your own. In which case, Steve Hinton or Chris Fehey would be able to check you out in it😀
Look into joining a CAF wing or squadron.They can start you out in a Cub,or at least a Stearman,a PT-19,or a BT-13.Then move up in your ratings,& go through ground schools.
Is there anywhere I can pay to go up in a p47 in 2020? My grandad flew these and I’d love to experience one.
monkeybearmax They do give rides in the back of the museum’s P-47. Contact the Planes of Fame people and see what prices the have. I think you need to become a member of the museum and then go from there.
Voodoo1650 thank you I’ll look into it!!! Would be so fun 👍🏻
The Raptor is not used to flying that slow!
What’s the plane with two fuselages going to the tail ?
That would be the Lockheed P-38 Lightning.
The JUG
1 unwritten rule to bad ass American engines. Say Potato Potato Potato
For a long range escort its not bad
The great plane! Used by Brazilian Air Force, against nazis forces during WWII in Italy. 🇧🇷❤️
P-47 Jugs rule! You can’t argue with 2,000 horsepower and eight .50 calibers! 🇺🇸
The top 10 Thunderbolt aces survived the war, no other fighter of WW2 on any side can claim that, for good technical info on these planes check out "greg's airplanes and automobiles" on youtube, his info on these planes is thorough.
@@dukecraig2402, I’ve seen it. It’s great. To all P-47 fans, I recommend the book, “Thunderbolt” by Robert Johnson, a veteran P-47 pilot/ace.
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Read it, and right now I'm reading Hell Hawks! The Untold Story of the American Fliers Who Savaged Hitler's Wehrmacht.
You can't beat Thriftbooks for buying books like that, one's that sell for $30 to $40 are $4 to $5 through them, the Hell Hawks book I'm reading now not only is a hardback but it's also a signed copy from one of the authors and I got it through Thriftbooks for only $5.
looks like steve hinton in the razorback
Good eye, that was Steve Hinton senior in SNAFU
Their owners must take crazy good care of these planes. Most modern Ww2 planes struggle to get whined up. These start with no problem.
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4 50 Bmg.
That's the plane to go to war in.
7:40 F-22
Hun Hunter is a P-47M
No it's not, the real Hun Hunter XVI was a P47D, the one that's currently painted as Hun Hunter XVI is also a P47D that was originally sold new to the Brazilian Air Force in the late 1940's and didn't see use in WW2.
The only unit to use P47M's was the 56th Fighter Group flying out of England as part of the 8th Air Force, the pilot who flew the real Hun Hunter series of P47's was Gilbert O Wymond, he flew in the 57th fighter group out of Africa and Italy, him and one of his real Hun Hunter P47's are featured in the WW2 USAAF documentary titled "Thunderbolt".
@@dukecraig2402 so explain the dorsal fin on the back? No D model had that. Only the later M. Did they add that?
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The later D's and later M's had that dorsal fin added because they discovered that without the razorback feature the aircraft was unstable while trying to "side slip" it, which was common practice during landings so the pilot wasn't trying to look over the nose of the aircraft and also it lost side slipping stability during some maneuvers used in aerial combat, I can't remember but I think even the early versions of the N variant didn't have that dorsal fin either but I'm not 100% sure on that one.
@@dukecraig2402 I did some digging and found a great write up on the 47. So I stand corrected. The P-47D-30-RE had a short dorsal on it. The M came with it from the factory with it. It also was the fastest piston engine fighter of its time. The N model with the clipped wings had a taller and longer fin from the factory and was only a few miles an hour slower then the M.
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The N being slower than the M might not actually be so, as a pilot pointed out in a video he did on them the N was tested under slightly different parameters then the M, it might actually have been a little faster but at least was probably just as fast.
Testing these different aircraft isn't the exact science people think it is, tests run at different facilities on the same exact plane could yield different results, even on different days at the same facility due to different atmospheric conditions.
Sometimes else people don't realize is that the official maximum speeds aren't measured at WEP, they're measured at "military power" which is 100% throttle, WEP was considered 133% power for the R-2800-57 engine that was in the M's and N's.
There's an official test report on the N dated 26 June 1945 that says at 10,000 ft at WEP speed was increased by 30 MPH, but it doesn't state what the speed at 10,000 feet was in the first place, it also goes on to say that only a couple of runs were made at WEP and that part of the testing was dropped due to the increased maintenance on the engine, that's an example of what I mean by it not being the exact science people assume it was.
I can tell you from experience building performance motorcycle engines that you can take a motorcycle that measures 100 RWHP on one dyno and on the same day with the same exact atmospheric conditions and the same fuel in the tank take it 1/2 mile down the road to another facility and it's dyno will say 86 RWHP, that's a 14% difference, hardly the "etched in stone" results people assume you'll get with dynamometer's.
5 thumbs down????????
I understand dislike video saying P51 was the best ww2 fighter (which it wasn't) but this?
mchume65 Wehraboos, probably pissed that this plane bombed their precious Tiger.