Hi Shok, I'm currently in Emerald but I am finding insane success with TF atm, especially with Relentless Hunter and Celerity. The "meta" build right now is Shurelya's rush but I've find a lot of success going Lich Bane into RFC into Dcap Zhonyas Cryptbloom etc. and I feel like he is extremely good due to his insane pick potential (484 MS at fully stacked Relentless hunter at Lich Bane and RFC), his ability to sidelane extremely efficiently, and the fact that he still does really good damage if you skip RoA/Shurelya's at 2-3 items and ofc also scales really hard into late. Maybe in higher elos people can punish his laning phase more but where I'm at I feel like he's just that good, even after all the nerfs.
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something that makes diana even stronger in low elo even against some of the moer broken champions, is that shes infinitely easier to play than most other champs, so u will almost always automatically play better than ur opponent, on account of being a very simple champ to play
I feel like when I've blinded gragas they would just pick something like hwei or xerath and I am just suffocated under tower. Is he actually that good of a blind pick?
No champ is perfect obviously, I think heavy waveclear might punish you yeah but you're also banking on the fact that they won't know it's gragas mid. imo you'd probably be ok vs Xerath, I could see Hwei being hard though
Gragas will probably become one of the best mids in the game soon. Champ is really broken rn and already took over Top lane so he might get banned often cause hes just that broken in three roles.
Amazing how Ahri can have the highest pick rate by a huge margin, extremely high ban rate (I believe around 19%), and still be S+ tier with a comfortably positive win rate for multiple patches. This is asinine. A lobotmized monkey could play this champ and climb.
I cannot play it at all. sometimes I straitght up int the lane and end up in a position when I'm so behind that my Q doesnt 1shot caster minions and the game feels horrible then. and at times I'm actually doing great the enemy team has some hyper carry like Jinx or Vayne that is literally impossible to hit with charm
@@jaculaa01 ahri has an extremely safe laning phase due to her Q doing both ticks of damage instantly at max range allowing you to farm/poke from a distance, her w giving a hefty chunk of move speed for dodging skillshots, her e is not only cc but also displacement because it forces you to walk at her, and her R is her R. Literally just avoid goofy fights until you hit 6 then use your cracked mobility to roam.
Mainly because there are champs that do their job better, why play Xerath when you can play Lux for example? The champs aren't necessarily weak, but just don't have a reason to be picked over others
I moved karma and neeko down a lot because they don't seem that worth picking over the other meta champs anymore, she's not actually "weaker" in terms of power, but I think there are similar lane bullies that scale better + have better builds
Hi Shok! What do you think of Aatrox mid these? I tried stuff like comet, glacial augment, electro, and fleet into mage matchups and it worked pretty well.
smolder been dead since nerfs he loses mid too hard but he's alright in some matchups where he can scale into tank heavy comps/ have teammates w good peel
what are you saying orianna is really op in high elo, high master+ she is picked alot and banned alot. its really really bad to play vs her you cant really do anything with any champ if she is good
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Hi Shok, I'm currently in Emerald but I am finding insane success with TF atm, especially with Relentless Hunter and Celerity. The "meta" build right now is Shurelya's rush but I've find a lot of success going Lich Bane into RFC into Dcap Zhonyas Cryptbloom etc. and I feel like he is extremely good due to his insane pick potential (484 MS at fully stacked Relentless hunter at Lich Bane and RFC), his ability to sidelane extremely efficiently, and the fact that he still does really good damage if you skip RoA/Shurelya's at 2-3 items and ofc also scales really hard into late. Maybe in higher elos people can punish his laning phase more but where I'm at I feel like he's just that good, even after all the nerfs.
Just found out about your channel, it's great for high elo advice which is getting rare to find these days, subbed, please keep up with the advanced micro and macro guides
Nice one, can u make a Low Elo Tier List too pls? Greetz from Germany
+ , it wasnt one in half year we need it
Yessir
@@ShokLeague ty bro
something that makes diana even stronger in low elo even against some of the moer broken champions, is that shes infinitely easier to play than most other champs, so u will almost always automatically play better than ur opponent, on account of being a very simple champ to play
ty for including zilean
do you think corki is good with manamune > malignance > eclispe ?
I think shojin is better than eclipse
I feel like when I've blinded gragas they would just pick something like hwei or xerath and I am just suffocated under tower. Is he actually that good of a blind pick?
No champ is perfect obviously, I think heavy waveclear might punish you yeah but you're also banking on the fact that they won't know it's gragas mid. imo you'd probably be ok vs Xerath, I could see Hwei being hard though
what makes veigar so low? just wondering because even from behind he scales so hard you can 2 shot people without being fed plus cage is great utility
imo has the scaling of other champs (Syndra/asol) but doesn't have their laning phase/early game impact
is it for soloq or team scenario ?
solo duos
Soloq
What do you think of rumble?
Underrated, I think he's really good in melee lanes
@ShokLeague yes very strong skirmisher but has some games where he feels useless or gets outscaled
Gragas will probably become one of the best mids in the game soon. Champ is really broken rn and already took over Top lane so he might get banned often cause hes just that broken in three roles.
i’m tryna see you play irelia or something like that
I'm noticing a trend where hot champs are high tier and goofballs are left to rot
Or maybe them being OP makes them more attractive...
Amazing how Ahri can have the highest pick rate by a huge margin, extremely high ban rate (I believe around 19%), and still be S+ tier with a comfortably positive win rate for multiple patches. This is asinine. A lobotmized monkey could play this champ and climb.
I cannot play it at all. sometimes I straitght up int the lane and end up in a position when I'm so behind that my Q doesnt 1shot caster minions and the game feels horrible then. and at times I'm actually doing great the enemy team has some hyper carry like Jinx or Vayne that is literally impossible to hit with charm
@@jaculaa01 ahri has an extremely safe laning phase due to her Q doing both ticks of damage instantly at max range allowing you to farm/poke from a distance, her w giving a hefty chunk of move speed for dodging skillshots, her e is not only cc but also displacement because it forces you to walk at her, and her R is her R. Literally just avoid goofy fights until you hit 6 then use your cracked mobility to roam.
Why are Xerath and Vel'Koz rated so low? I have pretty good success with them :).
Mainly because there are champs that do their job better, why play Xerath when you can play Lux for example? The champs aren't necessarily weak, but just don't have a reason to be picked over others
Does anyone have tips to hit skillshots i'm learning zoe and i love her gameplay but i can't hit anything with her
In my mechanics guide I talk a lot about skillshots!
Aim for their feet with your cursor not center mass
Isn't Camille now also a good midlaner?
Haven't seen her
why malza is so low? cause of mobility?
Lane phase is too weak so he gets bullied hard by every other mid in the game if you know what you're doing, I think he's pretty OP in low elo though
@@ShokLeague thanks, thats true
I feel like Annie is so underrated if you can survive laning.
Kinda agree I think she's not bad
My champ Xerath never gets talked about :(
what about katarina fam ima start to play with her more in patch 14.12 since im getting her prestige skin
kinda OP in soloq
Looks like a fun meta with the exception of Akali
why's neekos stock down so much from the 14.5 list
I moved karma and neeko down a lot because they don't seem that worth picking over the other meta champs anymore, she's not actually "weaker" in terms of power, but I think there are similar lane bullies that scale better + have better builds
is lucian middable?
Yep I think it's not bad
Thoughts on brand mid? 🔥
has its place but is ridiculously easy to punish imo.
@@stickystevie9047 thx :3
imo actually not bad, has a pretty strong lane with the E spam off the wave and spikes really hard on 1-2 items, kinda gets outscaled though
@@ShokLeague thanks for both thoughts ^^
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Hi Shok! What do you think of Aatrox mid these? I tried stuff like comet, glacial augment, electro, and fleet into mage matchups and it worked pretty well.
Yeah I think it's pretty solid actually
Where is Kai'Sa?
S tier counterpick but probably B tier overall
I wish velkoz was more playable☹️
Me too tbh he's fun as fk
I m trying to convince a friend that lich bane is better than stormsurge am I wrong ?
Depends on champ
It's champ/game state dependent. I guess on average lich bane might be better but they both have their place
Smolder ?
smolder been dead since nerfs he loses mid too hard but he's alright in some matchups where he can scale into tank heavy comps/ have teammates w good peel
Can maybe play it into certain weak laners (Galio, Malz) but overall is just hard to get away with it now in mid
Why isn't Trynd on this list?
It's good but niche, I tried to mainly cover meta picks
@@ShokLeague Then why are Pantheon and Rumble there? aren't they top laners?
Day idk of asking shok to play irelia
I've been playing it on stream!
@@ShokLeague bett, i hadn't joined stream in a while, will pop in then
Veigar seems particularly low to me, especially with his Shurelya builds
I don't think he's that strong, other champs have stronger early games while scaling similarly (Asol for example)
I feel like yone should be on A tier recently I been playing yone mid and damn in carrying all games lol
I think he is probably S tier in good matchups, just loses some points from lack of blind pickability and not as many AP junglers at the moment
Im doing really Good with Seraphine midlane in Master Elo :D
Pretty sure sera was supposed to be a midlaner
Oh I know you ain’t disrespecting my lulu mid
lowkey broken with kindred and xinzhao
where cho gath and trynd? :I
they arent played mid in high elo so u wont see them but I'm surprised sion mid isn't on there
too niche i fear
no one plays those khias
Not really meta mid atm but cho is probably a C, Trynd could be a pretty good counter so maybe B
Talon and naaf in c is absurd
imo Naafiri is pretty good up until diamond or so, think talon isn't great though
Lucian feels pretty busted but yes nerf ahri pls ty
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Oriana winrate is dog poop for all players, low and high elo, first timers and one tricks. She's literally bottom of the barrel, not A tier material
what are you saying orianna is really op in high elo, high master+ she is picked alot and banned alot. its really really bad to play vs her you cant really do anything with any champ if she is good