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This channel is second to none. The work you do through summarizing features and extensive real world testing is so appreciated. Thank you, keep up the incredible work!
I agree! It seems most channels will spend 3-5 minutes begging people to subscribe! but with him, at the end of the video he will suggest subscribing if you wanted to!
These things are getting pretty great. I'm hoping the next iteration is designed to potentially connect to a water supply and drain, a la' a washing machine. With additional improvements in battery tech, I could see a not-so-distant future where self-filling and emptying robot vacuums and mops become a home-design consideration alongside the dishwasher or washing machine. Bummer about the lower power and lackluster dual-brush results, but that level of precise detail is exactly why I watch your reviews!
easily DIY to adapt the fresh water and dirty water tanks to do as you are asking. I had to adapt my Breville coffee machine for the exact same thing, plumbed in the water tank to the water line so it self fills, and just plumbed in the drip tray to the sink drain.
@@1989cranston Yes, but your average coffee machine has a water filter. Your roborock station does not. With time, lime will screw up both the station and the robo vacuum. EDIT: spelling
My floors were mopped just fine with the s7 max v. There's features they removed that I don't like, like the removable mopping tank and the removable mopping plate
@@RubenKelevra well you may not care about the camera but ALOT of other people do. Them removing the camera just PROVES you don't need one in the first place. i still have serious issues with the app on a separate device bceause a smart phone in a SERIOUS security risk as it is. but i can just put it on a tablet and lock the tablet down at least
@@sarahc.3795 On the back. You can physically remove the water tank to refill or replace if needed. Or remove the metal mopping plate to take the mop off to throw it in the wash
Plausible, though usually the goal with patents is to write exactly how to do something. If you don't do it exactly like the patent, you don't need to worry about the patent. So releasing near the patent expiration should mean they followed the patent... but it was was that bad, then what did they change?
One thing to note when comparing the S7 MaxV Ultra to the S8 Pro Ultra is that when you did your navigation tests on the S7, the navigation system probably didn't have the navigation system updates that it now has with the S8. Just something to keep in mind with the software updates that older models have gotten in the time since.
Thank you for the great review. I considered both the S8 and the S7 and went with the S7. With a mix of very low pile carpets and wooden floors in our house, the S7 performs great, and the extra cost of the S8 didn't seem justified. Based on the many reviews on RUclips, the Ecovacs Deebot X1 Omni seemed a great second choice, especially with the much lower price tag. Coming from an S6 that I've used for 3+ years with excellent service, and seeing Roborock's product development helped me decide. The only gripe is there is no warning when the onboard dust bin is full. A drying attachment is available for the S7 for about $100, but since I only mop the entire house once a week, I just remove the mop head, throw it in the washer, and let it air dry. No odor problems. Emptying the dirty water container after a mop job, rinsing it with water and adding a few drops of disinfectant eliminates another source of odor. Based on other reviews, I understood the S8 was better on carpeting, especially in homes with dogs or cats who are always shedding. This review may question that assumption. Since we don't have dogs or cats, that made the S7 a better choice for us. It's a wild market these days with lots of robots out there that do a variety of things. Reviews like this help people choose the model that's best for their needs and that meet their budgets. Thanks again for your hard work and presentation!
I am in the same boat as you , with a house without carpets, so I got the S7 MaxV Ultra.. I bought the drying accessory for the dock, though. It works great!
> Ecovacs Deebot X1 Omni seemed a great second choice, especially with the much lower price tag. Compared to the s8 or the s7? I can't find an x1 omni cheaper than an s7 maxv ultra, and honestly I don't find s8 being worth it, seems to not behave that much better than the s7. I'd say skip this one and go for s9 if you are on the fence, I'm looking at s7s for round 800 which seems to be perfect, split it in 4 payments and it's as if you paid a maid to come clean your place in those months, and then she keeps working for "free"
@@user-bl4lf9rg8m If you have carpeting, you may find the S8 performs better with pet hair. I'm also hearing that people who bought the S7 are buying the roller brush for the Roborock Q5. This is a brush roller, unlike the rubber roller that comes with the S7. The brush roller seems to greatly improve the S7s carpet vacuuming ability. As with ANY robot, if you have shedding animals in your home, be sure to check the roller, spinning brush and wheels to avoid hair tangles and poor performance.
One feature thats important to me is a bagless auto empty dock. I dont want to be stuck in 10 years unable to buy bags because they no longer produce them for that model. And if I was to buy such an expensive item I dont want ongoing 'subscription' costs/additional outlay all the time. Can you please highlight this a little more in the future or with comparison tests. I think one of these robots has this feature but I cant remember which
Buying bags forever is a definite negative. Having allergy problems, though, mean a sealed bag is important to me. I'm hearing that Roborock will be unveiling zippered, cloth bags that are washable and re-usable. Stay tuned!
I really wish you'd include a test score for getting over door frames (or whatever they are called in English). In Europe, there's a ton of really tall doorframes in older apartments and houses. Some of them being up to 3cm tall, but more often 2cm.
@@cwill2127 actually there's a big difference in how they are handled. My J7+ is able to climb a 3 cm doorframe after I made some minor modifications to the doorframe.
Interesting. I don’t think we have that in the US unless you’re going from a room with carpet to a room with another floor type (like wood) and it’s usually a small metal strip that’s barely noticeable. Why do old building have them over there?
I picked one of these up and set it loose just a couple days ago; I'd ordered it long before this video came out in anticipation of it's awesomeness. Mopping is as mentioned, fantastic! Better than my Braava Jet, so I'm glad I can put that thing away! The vacuuming though, to be honest, my previous Neato D10 did a better job in a single pass on hardwood floors. (I have a Roomba S9+ for the carpets upstairs, and it's fantastic too.) The rest of the features blow the poor D10 out of the water though. Only thing I might add is that this robot sure talks alot! Scares my 2-yr-old daughter!
This is my first robo vac. I never thought I needed one until I got two golden puppies. I was vacuuming and then mopping daily. Too much! This is such a game changer for me! I take the pups to doggie park and let the robo rock run. When I come home, spotless squeaky clean floor! It’s seriously a must for people with long hair dogs. I got the bundle and keep the stick one in my bedroom, and my only confusion with that is it says to unlock to self clean? Thank you for educating me on this vac. ❤
YES. Well, if you care about mopping. I upgraded from N8 pro+ to dreame L10S, and It's a night and day difference when it comes to auto emptying and obstacle avoidance. In the past 2 months I've had the dreame, it got stuck twice (once by tangling up with a sock, once with a curtain) - and I have a messy home, courtesy of 3 cats and a dog. Speaking of, it never failed to auto empty the fur - a recurring problem for me on the N8. Vslam comes in handy with animals too. It's also consistently faster, quieter (now I have the robot set to run mopping&vacuuming cycle daily before my alarm clock), and gets better coverage. If you can find L10S for cheaper than the roborock, get it - It's almost the same vacuum by what I've seen in the review, and at last, a one that I can call perfect. It does what the box says.
I have a German shepherd. How well does the mop washing/cleaning deal with pet hair?? I have the iRobot vac and mop. And trust me. No matter how “clean” the floor is when the mop goes after the vac. There is pet hair on it. 2:22
I’ve bought three shark vac types based on his review and they are spot on. He does summarize in detail about the pros and cons and budget of vaccum models and is on point. I just can’t see myself paying over $1,000 for a robot vacuum that is not perfect. Especially, if it is weaker in suction than the Roborock Ultra S7. Shark tends to be 1-2 year behind technology improvement features compared to Roborock but their price point is a lot wallet friendlier.
My only experience with robo vacs was the eufy LR30, said it could do carpet and carpet to rug, no it couldn't. Tracking was shit, kept ramming into everything ended up returning it a week later
Very surprised about the carpet performance. I thought it was supposed to have more suction power than any previous model? 6000 PA for the S8 , 4200 for the Q7 and 2500 for the S7 ?
Been watching every review on s8 pro untra since there was only one result on youtube. Waited to make a purchase decision until I saw what Vaccum Wars had to say. I think its the S7 for me. Thank you!
@@adiands850 "since there was only one result" -- that's how long I've been watching. As in, I've been watching since the first youtuber got their hands on one, when it was first released/announced, and there was only one actual result for the s8 pro ultra at that time. Since then, I've been watching every video, but waiting for vaccum wars.
@@CharlesReinmuth thanks for the explanation, I completely understand now. TBH the Vacuum Wars review has left me confused, as it seemed to reach opposite conclusions to the other reviews, on hardwood performance vs carpet and things like battery life.
@@adiands850 yeah, I agree. I went back and watched some others. I trust Vaccum Wars' standard tests. I got the feeling that many of the others were just taking the marketing at face value, and repeating what the vaccum is "supposed" to be. Like, it's "supposed" to be better because of the dual brush. So people say, "this has dual brush, which picks up better on carpet". However, vaccum wars tests everything and assumes nothing. So I feel better about their analysis. But that could just be me, or I could be wrong about some of the other videos.
I purchased the S8 pro Ultra and I am VERY happy with it. Yes its pricey but its so good, it cleans quickly, is quiet and is totally autonomous. Also the mop washing feature is excellent the mop still looks like brand new and I live in a very large home so it gets used often. The app has so many useful features as well. Its lightyears ahead of my Neato D7
Sad to hear about the lack of power.. do you think it’s something that could be changed with an additional power setting as a software update even if battery life suffers? Maybe they handicapped it because power was draining too quickly?
I highly doubt that the carpet deep cleaning and crevice pickup results were due to operator error. You're a pro! Super disappointing that the dual roller wasn't the smoking gun to overtake iRobot for carpet cleaning. I certainly hoped it'd be. I'll stick with my S7 & S7 MaxV for now
as someone with ocd this seems amazing , id like for you to put more input on how clean the unit stay after multiple use , I sold my old roomba cause it pretty needed a deep clean everytime it went out lol
Hi! Thank you for the review and great job as always! I'm torn by this video because now, I'm contemplating on whether I should still splurge on the S8 Pro Ultra or save some money and get a decently discounted S7 MaxV Ultra? I was hoping for an all out knockout with the S8 but with the low carpet deep clean score and crevice pickup, I'm wondering if I should get it. Do you think they can fix this with a software update that improves suction? Or maybe we now need to run the robot on higher suction power to assist with the pickup? Please do a follow up video about this; I hope you'll do more tests and investigation on it. Maybe Roborock can help answer some questions too. I'll wait for a followup before pulling the trigger on the S7 MaxV Ultra
I feel exactly the same!! I watched the video anticipating it to only reaffirm what I want which is to buy the S8 but now I’m think about going for the S7!!
HOLY SHIT. We are in the future. When you show it with fast pace video it’s scary how precise it is like there’s a ghost maid nanny invisibly controlling it
Thanks for the review. I have an apartment with mostly carpets because it's cold in here, and I was really hoping to get the S8 because of better carpet cleaning, but since it's worse than the S7, should I go with the S7 instead? What would be the best low maintenance and low involvement robots for carpets?
Great review as always. Have you noticed significant difference in mopping tests compared to S7 MaxV? Do you have any scoring system for mopping, if yes, what are the scores of both S8 Pro & S7 MaxV? Thank you! :)
I was waiting for this one! I was wondering if you performed your hair tangle tests on this one like you used to do? Since we have had a change to dual brush rollers - I am wondering how this one handles pet hair? You briefly mentioned it that it was a bit dissapointing and showed a clip of some hair in the brushes.. but you didn't really elaborate?
I looked forward to dual brush so much and waited until s8 is released but im so disappointed with their power :( if s7maxV ultra and s8pro ultra were the same price, which one would you recommend to buy? What would be a reason to buy s8pro instead of s7maxV if there is any? (Except for mopping function (i dont use mopping))
I own the S7. Its biggest disadvantage for sure is obstacle avoidance, it does make many mistakes there (this is my first robo vac, im sure its better than others). Any improvements in that area i think are worth it
Nice video as always! Theorising why it didn't impress you when it comes to the crevices and sand - I imagine that the much larger aperture for the dual rollers would decrease the floor pressure of the suction. I think the dual rollers are better for hair and dust/fluff/lint than the S7 MaxV which I found struggled with the standard brush for some pet owners. Keep up the good work!
Was about to upgrade from S7+ to S8U, then I saw a video about Dreame X20 last week. It can extend mops to cover edges and most corners; pretty interesting. Sadly their US variants seem to lag behind by quite some. L10 is similar to S10 overseas, and we don't even get S20 (Pro)/X10/X20. Shipping the G20 (S8U equvilant) overseas is also a viable option, consider it's about $720 not counting shipping. Adding all the cost it's still half the price comparing to S8U. The only down side might be the warranty.
Cheers for the video, a lot of us are going, S8 ultra or S7 Maxv? Would you be able to do a video to compare both and not just what is better or worst but what feature are missing on the S7 compared to the S8 in the app e.g. the one way mopping, think this could really help us sitting on the fence with which one to buy. Another thing I was wondering is, do features get added with Roborock, eg do you think the S7 one way mop will be added or does Roborock not tend to do this as a company.
Great review, it's not the results I was hoping for. I waa missing some information about the lack of camera and do you think a maxV version is around the corner.
@vacuumwars Can you post on your website the scores? I am looking for one that has better mop scores but also preferably one with a “bag-less” auto empty bin. On your site now there are a select few that you list specs for.
You need to do a review of the just announced S8 MaxV Ultra asap :-) I really like the Ultra Dock, and they're claiming an incredible 10,000Pa suction, and 20mm mop lift height. It sounds great, but I'm waiting for your review before purchasing.
to stay on the carpet better, without a doubt the solution is to place two mops, a smooth rubber one on the front to catch most of the hair and put another mop like the conventional ones, it doesn't make sense to put two identical mops, or put a mop with a brush and the system When turning, cut the hair.
I have the S7 Ultra with the auto water fill/drain dock (ordered from china, they dont sell it "officially" in the rest of the world). And THATS a real game changer. Never have to worry about how many times a day/week the robot mops because it always has water in the tank and also empties the waste accordingly. No going back to manual water changes after that. I would not buy the S8 and then the special fill/drain dock for it again (costs around 30% on top of the ULTRA model) just for upgraded dual brushes and a little better mop system.
I think that you should do the Navigational and Obstacle Avoidance Test on carpet as well, because obstacle detection might be harder on carpet? Great video by the way!
First time watching this channel because I have been obsessed with the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra even though its to WAY to expensive for me I love the technology behind it. This channel is amazing. Is there a specific testing methodology on how these tests got created? Do the tests get updated? any informative videos on ONLY the testing? I love it.
Definitely want you to mention in these videos whether the dock requires some kind of bags or other consumable to function, not having a "subscription" is a big deal to me.
With Neato Robotics shutting down, I'm soon in the market to replace my D7. I don't understand why other companies have not yet taken to the D shaped design. Surprised to see that 5 years after buying my D7, it's still one of very few with this design. In this video, all the dirt was in the middle of the room. I'd like to see how vacuums do with getting into corners. The lidar tech also allows it to vacuum with very low light.
I was considering replacing my S7 Max V ultra with this, due to the two moping vibrators and dual rollers, but after seeing this, there isn’t a reason. I am eager to hear other comments on this though
I was trying to decide between the S7 MaxV Ultra and the S8 Pro Ultra this past month, to replace a 3 year+ old Roborock S6. With very low pile and low traffic carpeting on the 2nd floor, and mostly hardwood on the first, I chose the S7 since many reviews said it was superior on hardwood floors. I didn't feel the added price for the S8 was justified for my needs. And, ok, I admit it. I love the hell out of that video camera. Being an old man in a big house, this has changed my life. It does a beautiful job, saves hours of time each week, and spares my back.
Your reviews are fantastic, thank you! Our dog dribbles water on the floor in random places after drinking. Keep out zones wouldn’t work because I’d have to add keep outs for most of our kitchen and living room. Would this be a problem with this robot? I’ve heard that water can damage the robot. Are the obstacle sensors capable of detecting water on the floor? Please consider making this one of your tests or mention it in the reviews. Maybe they can add this feature! Keep up the great work!
No. It can handle a little water. however you can't use the auto vacuum after, you have to manually empty the dust bin cause it might be crusted on. If there's too much water the robot will tell you that The floor is wetter than its limit and then pause and ask you to dry it. I wouldn't worry about it.
Two things it sounds like it's missing, at least compared to competitors: 1. Auto vacuum-full emptying (not base, but vacuum) 2. Preset cleaning zones; not just rooms. I like making the rug or near a pets cage.
@@shaggyfilms Irobot has patent on dust bin full sensor as well as carpet debris sensor, I hate Irobot so much they are holding back the entire industry
I had the same issue in my kitchen. The one area where our birds are need vacuuming 1-2 times a day. The sink/food prep might need vacuuming 2-3 times a week. The table area needs it only once a week. I divided the one room into three separate rooms which spares me the job of creating zones every time I vacuum.
I'm between a Roomba i7+ for 430€, Roborock Q7 MAX+ for 510€ or forget about the base until it's more refined in future gens and go lower midrange / budget-ish with an Eufy G30 for 250€ or an X8 Hybrid for 320€. Yep, wide price range. But what insight could you guys provide?
The standard S8 does *not* come with dual brushrolls. Might this have better suction power? 4:21 I guess Roborock supplied you with the Ultra only!? Love the review ❤ Thanks!
How does it do with pet hair? Does the robot have a bin sensor on the bot to tell it to go back to the dock to empty? Two Huskies and two girls means a lot of hair!
We're still looking for a robot that can detect mirrors thus not making an error in the room. And making the mapping go haywire. Let me know if that happens one day. Thank you, great video!
Yup, no surprise here - as always, I say Roborock is the best. It's my version of Chris's Shark (his fav). Love my S7 Max blah blah Ultra. I had no idea that going against the grain caused streaking. I wonder if the S7 Max has that go-with-the-grain feature.
There's no reason Roborock can't add S8 features like this in a firmware update for the S7 MaxV. It has the exact same sensory capabilities; even more actually, with the camera. I'm hoping updates start rolling in soon.
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What AI(neural network) have you used to generate images starting from 6:00?
Id love to see a review on the new Dyson robovac
does M2 per min mean meters squared per min????
This channel is second to none. The work you do through summarizing features and extensive real world testing is so appreciated. Thank you, keep up the incredible work!
Second to project farm imo
Always buy using your feedback first. Totally worth, love my roborock
@@aldo9923 Agreed
Best review ever. Gave me all the info I needed instantly with no crap intros, no begging for sub, no stupid unnecessary effects. Well done!!!
Thank you!
I agree! It seems most channels will spend 3-5 minutes begging people to subscribe! but with him, at the end of the video he will suggest subscribing if you wanted to!
I literally only watch this channel for reviews before deciding what to buy ! By far the best channel in this category
Man, I love my S7 MaxV Ultra. Walking barefoot on tile without getting dirt or grime on the bottoms of my feet is really nice.
These things are getting pretty great. I'm hoping the next iteration is designed to potentially connect to a water supply and drain, a la' a washing machine. With additional improvements in battery tech, I could see a not-so-distant future where self-filling and emptying robot vacuums and mops become a home-design consideration alongside the dishwasher or washing machine.
Bummer about the lower power and lackluster dual-brush results, but that level of precise detail is exactly why I watch your reviews!
The china only roborock g20 has exactly that, the s8 ultra maxv will have it too.
@@Hammondses The Roborock Ultra bases generally do have a water connection kit, it can be hard to find in Western countries though
Why would you want to connect it to a water line, risking lime damage to it?
easily DIY to adapt the fresh water and dirty water tanks to do as you are asking. I had to adapt my Breville coffee machine for the exact same thing, plumbed in the water tank to the water line so it self fills, and just plumbed in the drip tray to the sink drain.
@@1989cranston Yes, but your average coffee machine has a water filter. Your roborock station does not. With time, lime will screw up both the station and the robo vacuum.
EDIT: spelling
Dropping the camera is great, and the mopping feature finally looks ready for real world use! Very cool.
I don't care about the camera. I mean it's great if you want to have a look at wtf it detected there and if you can set it to avoid it.
My floors were mopped just fine with the s7 max v. There's features they removed that I don't like, like the removable mopping tank and the removable mopping plate
@@RubenKelevra well you may not care about the camera but ALOT of other people do. Them removing the camera just PROVES you don't need one in the first place. i still have serious issues with the app on a separate device bceause a smart phone in a SERIOUS security risk as it is. but i can just put it on a tablet and lock the tablet down at least
@@JosefRudy I have the s7 ultra, and I'm not sure I even know about these features that you mention! Can them explain them to me?
@@sarahc.3795 On the back. You can physically remove the water tank to refill or replace if needed. Or remove the metal mopping plate to take the mop off to throw it in the wash
The carpet deep clean score and battery efficiency could be due to Roborock's lack of experience with dual brush rollers. Also, loved the outro!
Thanks!
Plausible, though usually the goal with patents is to write exactly how to do something. If you don't do it exactly like the patent, you don't need to worry about the patent. So releasing near the patent expiration should mean they followed the patent... but it was was that bad, then what did they change?
@@rcmaniac25This is what I found really odd. Why would a dual brush roller door a vacuum cleaner able to be patented? That's completely dumb.
Bruh. I'm a 39-year old man geeking out on robot vacuums and I have no shame in that game. Brilliant stuff here.
This channel convinced me to buy the s5 max when it was relatively new and now you've convinced me to upgrade to the s8 ultra. Great review.
Thank you! We hope you are happy with it!
One thing to note when comparing the S7 MaxV Ultra to the S8 Pro Ultra is that when you did your navigation tests on the S7, the navigation system probably didn't have the navigation system updates that it now has with the S8. Just something to keep in mind with the software updates that older models have gotten in the time since.
This industry is expanding and evolving so quickly. Thanks Vacuum Wars for bringing us high quality news and reviews on latest innovations!
The video that everyone was waiting for ! Thank you master of robot vacuum.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you for the great review. I considered both the S8 and the S7 and went with the S7. With a mix of very low pile carpets and wooden floors in our house, the S7 performs great, and the extra cost of the S8 didn't seem justified. Based on the many reviews on RUclips, the Ecovacs Deebot X1 Omni seemed a great second choice, especially with the much lower price tag. Coming from an S6 that I've used for 3+ years with excellent service, and seeing Roborock's product development helped me decide. The only gripe is there is no warning when the onboard dust bin is full. A drying attachment is available for the S7 for about $100, but since I only mop the entire house once a week, I just remove the mop head, throw it in the washer, and let it air dry. No odor problems. Emptying the dirty water container after a mop job, rinsing it with water and adding a few drops of disinfectant eliminates another source of odor. Based on other reviews, I understood the S8 was better on carpeting, especially in homes with dogs or cats who are always shedding. This review may question that assumption. Since we don't have dogs or cats, that made the S7 a better choice for us. It's a wild market these days with lots of robots out there that do a variety of things. Reviews like this help people choose the model that's best for their needs and that meet their budgets. Thanks again for your hard work and presentation!
I am in the same boat as you , with a house without carpets, so I got the S7 MaxV Ultra.. I bought the drying accessory for the dock, though. It works great!
Huge mistake to go with the s7 isntead of s8
> Ecovacs Deebot X1 Omni seemed a great second choice, especially with the much lower price tag.
Compared to the s8 or the s7?
I can't find an x1 omni cheaper than an s7 maxv ultra, and honestly I don't find s8 being worth it, seems to not behave that much better than the s7.
I'd say skip this one and go for s9 if you are on the fence, I'm looking at s7s for round 800 which seems to be perfect, split it in 4 payments and it's as if you paid a maid to come clean your place in those months, and then she keeps working for "free"
I wanted to buy s7, but not sure now, maybe s8 is better, and I have a dog
@@user-bl4lf9rg8m If you have carpeting, you may find the S8 performs better with pet hair. I'm also hearing that people who bought the S7 are buying the roller brush for the Roborock Q5. This is a brush roller, unlike the rubber roller that comes with the S7. The brush roller seems to greatly improve the S7s carpet vacuuming ability. As with ANY robot, if you have shedding animals in your home, be sure to check the roller, spinning brush and wheels to avoid hair tangles and poor performance.
I've been following this channel for years, and its pretty crazy how cool your test have become!
Thanks so much!!
This has been my favorite robot vacuum yet, roborock continues to bring innovative new features
super input. Thank you!
BEST REVIEW EVER. Straight to the point. Good visual ! You rock :)
Why thank you very much!
One feature thats important to me is a bagless auto empty dock. I dont want to be stuck in 10 years unable to buy bags because they no longer produce them for that model. And if I was to buy such an expensive item I dont want ongoing 'subscription' costs/additional outlay all the time. Can you please highlight this a little more in the future or with comparison tests. I think one of these robots has this feature but I cant remember which
I believe all the Shark Robot Vacs are bagless with the auto empty dock. I like mine!! :^)
Buying bags forever is a definite negative. Having allergy problems, though, mean a sealed bag is important to me. I'm hearing that Roborock will be unveiling zippered, cloth bags that are washable and re-usable. Stay tuned!
@@Dagot1948 That's awesome Tony! Thanks for sharing!
I really wish you'd include a test score for getting over door frames (or whatever they are called in English). In Europe, there's a ton of really tall doorframes in older apartments and houses. Some of them being up to 3cm tall, but more often 2cm.
I think any robot would struggle with these unless it had treads or large wheels like a tank lol
@@cwill2127 actually there's a big difference in how they are handled. My J7+ is able to climb a 3 cm doorframe after I made some minor modifications to the doorframe.
@@mathiaslorenzen9668 in America they’re often called a “threshold”
Interesting. I don’t think we have that in the US unless you’re going from a room with carpet to a room with another floor type (like wood) and it’s usually a small metal strip that’s barely noticeable.
Why do old building have them over there?
We have them in older homes. We call them thresholds
I picked one of these up and set it loose just a couple days ago; I'd ordered it long before this video came out in anticipation of it's awesomeness. Mopping is as mentioned, fantastic! Better than my Braava Jet, so I'm glad I can put that thing away! The vacuuming though, to be honest, my previous Neato D10 did a better job in a single pass on hardwood floors. (I have a Roomba S9+ for the carpets upstairs, and it's fantastic too.) The rest of the features blow the poor D10 out of the water though. Only thing I might add is that this robot sure talks alot! Scares my 2-yr-old daughter!
The camera on my S7 has saved my butt multiple times when I had to check my home while traveling... I like that feature
The king has stepped foot.
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Huh??
@@BitSmythefuck that mean 😂
Honestly I don't buy anything smart robot vacuum wise without watching your videos. So tyvm for your hard work ❤
Thank you!
This is my first robo vac. I never thought I needed one until I got two golden puppies. I was vacuuming and then mopping daily. Too much! This is such a game changer for me! I take the pups to doggie park and let the robo rock run. When I come home, spotless squeaky clean floor! It’s seriously a must for people with long hair dogs. I got the bundle and keep the stick one in my bedroom, and my only confusion with that is it says to unlock to self clean? Thank you for educating me on this vac. ❤
IT's really good to hear that it's worked so well for you. Enjoy those puppies!
Question: Is this a "worth-it" upgrade if you have a Deebot N8 Pro+
YES. Well, if you care about mopping. I upgraded from N8 pro+ to dreame L10S, and It's a night and day difference when it comes to auto emptying and obstacle avoidance. In the past 2 months I've had the dreame, it got stuck twice (once by tangling up with a sock, once with a curtain) - and I have a messy home, courtesy of 3 cats and a dog. Speaking of, it never failed to auto empty the fur - a recurring problem for me on the N8. Vslam comes in handy with animals too. It's also consistently faster, quieter (now I have the robot set to run mopping&vacuuming cycle daily before my alarm clock), and gets better coverage.
If you can find L10S for cheaper than the roborock, get it - It's almost the same vacuum by what I've seen in the review, and at last, a one that I can call perfect. It does what the box says.
I bought one two days ago..
. So yes lol
I just got the N8 Pro+ and it's wonderful for the price. Upgrading just depends on how much you value the added convenience.
Haven’t been around here for a long time. You’ve progressed so far with your methodology. Great to see!
Thanks, and welcome back!
I have a German shepherd. How well does the mop washing/cleaning deal with pet hair??
I have the iRobot vac and mop. And trust me. No matter how “clean” the floor is when the mop goes after the vac. There is pet hair on it. 2:22
I’ve bought three shark vac types based on his review and they are spot on. He does summarize in detail about the pros and cons and budget of vaccum models and is on point. I just can’t see myself paying over $1,000 for a robot vacuum that is not perfect. Especially, if it is weaker in suction than the Roborock Ultra S7. Shark tends to be 1-2 year behind technology improvement features compared to Roborock but their price point is a lot wallet friendlier.
Awesome review, without all those biased opinions!
Thanks!
My only experience with robo vacs was the eufy LR30, said it could do carpet and carpet to rug, no it couldn't. Tracking was shit, kept ramming into everything ended up returning it a week later
Very surprised about the carpet performance. I thought it was supposed to have more suction power than any previous model? 6000 PA for the S8 , 4200 for the Q7 and 2500 for the S7 ?
Check out other reviews of the SP8U. They all say it has better carpet performance than the S7 MaxV.
Lets gooooo. These are so hard to get in canada but ive been wanting to get a roborock forever thanks to your thorough reviews
Thank you!
If you’re near the US border, services like Kinek make it super easy ;)
Been using it for years
Been watching every review on s8 pro untra since there was only one result on youtube. Waited to make a purchase decision until I saw what Vaccum Wars had to say. I think its the S7 for me. Thank you!
When you say only one result, what do you mean? I did a YT search now and there are around 12 reviews of the S8PU over the last few weeks.
We hope you are happy with whichever one you choose and we are happy to have helped you out! Thank you!
@@adiands850 "since there was only one result" -- that's how long I've been watching. As in, I've been watching since the first youtuber got their hands on one, when it was first released/announced, and there was only one actual result for the s8 pro ultra at that time. Since then, I've been watching every video, but waiting for vaccum wars.
@@CharlesReinmuth thanks for the explanation, I completely understand now. TBH the Vacuum Wars review has left me confused, as it seemed to reach opposite conclusions to the other reviews, on hardwood performance vs carpet and things like battery life.
@@adiands850 yeah, I agree. I went back and watched some others. I trust Vaccum Wars' standard tests. I got the feeling that many of the others were just taking the marketing at face value, and repeating what the vaccum is "supposed" to be. Like, it's "supposed" to be better because of the dual brush. So people say, "this has dual brush, which picks up better on carpet". However, vaccum wars tests everything and assumes nothing. So I feel better about their analysis. But that could just be me, or I could be wrong about some of the other videos.
I purchased the S8 pro Ultra and I am VERY happy with it. Yes its pricey but its so good, it cleans quickly, is quiet and is totally autonomous. Also the mop washing feature is excellent the mop still looks like brand new and I live in a very large home so it gets used often. The app has so many useful features as well. Its lightyears ahead of my Neato D7
So glad you are happy with it!
@@ZenWe you have to clean the dock station after a few months but it’s not hard to. It scrubs the mop pad but the vacuum rollers
Sad to hear about the lack of power.. do you think it’s something that could be changed with an additional power setting as a software update even if battery life suffers? Maybe they handicapped it because power was draining too quickly?
Great review as always. I will upgrade to S9, my S7 is still a beast to justify the change.
Thanks for the review and cementing my decision to stay with the S7!
I highly doubt that the carpet deep cleaning and crevice pickup results were due to operator error. You're a pro!
Super disappointing that the dual roller wasn't the smoking gun to overtake iRobot for carpet cleaning. I certainly hoped it'd be. I'll stick with my S7 & S7 MaxV for now
I think this is the only review which found it performed worse on carpets. All of the other reviews found it was better than the S7 MaxV on carpet.
@@adiands850 Potentially calling it that vacuum wars got a subpar item here just flawed enough to perform on average worse.
Great video and review as always. One thing is a vacuum system cost $1600.00 if should make supper for me also.
Amazing channel!! Found u randomly but love your videos. Never think vacuums be so interesting lol
Welcome aboard! Thank you!
The tech has finally reached the level where I'm interested (vacuuming and mopping). Wow!
Well that already happened a while ago. It is getting quite good however.
I love the camera. I use mine on the S7 Max too find my dog while Im at work
waiting for s9 which can climb stairs
S12 can fly and teleport through rooms
@@pablesm ill just settle with the S11, that can clip through walls
😂😂😂😂
Buy one for each step 😂
Climb stairs is what I need
as someone with ocd this seems amazing , id like for you to put more input on how clean the unit stay after multiple use , I sold my old roomba cause it pretty needed a deep clean everytime it went out lol
I've got my roborock s4 and it is still doing well but that mopping feature seems like a no brainer!!
Hi! Thank you for the review and great job as always! I'm torn by this video because now, I'm contemplating on whether I should still splurge on the S8 Pro Ultra or save some money and get a decently discounted S7 MaxV Ultra? I was hoping for an all out knockout with the S8 but with the low carpet deep clean score and crevice pickup, I'm wondering if I should get it. Do you think they can fix this with a software update that improves suction? Or maybe we now need to run the robot on higher suction power to assist with the pickup? Please do a follow up video about this; I hope you'll do more tests and investigation on it. Maybe Roborock can help answer some questions too. I'll wait for a followup before pulling the trigger on the S7 MaxV Ultra
I feel exactly the same!! I watched the video anticipating it to only reaffirm what I want which is to buy the S8 but now I’m think about going for the S7!!
Such a detailed review, thanks a lot
Is the ability to change mopping direction an S8 feature, or has that been made available for the S7 in an update as well?
That outro is so fire 🔥
Thanks! We had some fun with that.
HOLY SHIT. We are in the future. When you show it with fast pace video it’s scary how precise it is like there’s a ghost maid nanny invisibly controlling it
Thanks for the review. I have an apartment with mostly carpets because it's cold in here, and I was really hoping to get the S8 because of better carpet cleaning, but since it's worse than the S7, should I go with the S7 instead? What would be the best low maintenance and low involvement robots for carpets?
Great review as always. Have you noticed significant difference in mopping tests compared to S7 MaxV? Do you have any scoring system for mopping, if yes, what are the scores of both S8 Pro & S7 MaxV? Thank you! :)
I wonder this too, he mentions the vibra rise 2.0 but doesn't give in indication of how much better than the s7 it is regarding this feature.
Please do side by side comparison with Roborock S7maxV Ultra with the dryer module 🙏
Great review!
Im actually very glad they dropped the camera. Its obviously not necessary but is a privacy issue.
Wow that final scene was quite cool
Thanks!
Definitely agree. Really thorough and a great review. Thank you :)
Very welcome! Thank you too!
Awesome. Navigation and hardfloor loocks sick. If we need smth except for bringing the price down, is a slick aluminum casing option.
I was waiting for this one! I was wondering if you performed your hair tangle tests on this one like you used to do? Since we have had a change to dual brush rollers - I am wondering how this one handles pet hair? You briefly mentioned it that it was a bit dissapointing and showed a clip of some hair in the brushes.. but you didn't really elaborate?
That Midjourney morph at the end tripped me out.
Thanks!!
I looked forward to dual brush so much and waited until s8 is released but im so disappointed with their power :( if s7maxV ultra and s8pro ultra were the same price, which one would you recommend to buy? What would be a reason to buy s8pro instead of s7maxV if there is any? (Except for mopping function (i dont use mopping))
I own the S7. Its biggest disadvantage for sure is obstacle avoidance, it does make many mistakes there (this is my first robo vac, im sure its better than others). Any improvements in that area i think are worth it
Thanks for your comment! But isnt s7 different from s7maxV? (Even without the dock options)
@@JJk-il5de yes, it’s they are different. Go with the s7 maxv, it’s worth it.
Deebot it x1 still has a few more features over this but the mop lifting over carpet is nice.
Great informative video! Just one question: how close can it mop at the edge of a wall? Will it leave few cms of unmopped area?
I have the same question! Did you happen to buy a Robo vac yet?Thank you!
Nice video as always! Theorising why it didn't impress you when it comes to the crevices and sand - I imagine that the much larger aperture for the dual rollers would decrease the floor pressure of the suction. I think the dual rollers are better for hair and dust/fluff/lint than the S7 MaxV which I found struggled with the standard brush for some pet owners. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
From what I've read, pet hair tests worked out to be about the same, so it doesn't even seem to have that advantage.
Was about to upgrade from S7+ to S8U, then I saw a video about Dreame X20 last week. It can extend mops to cover edges and most corners; pretty interesting.
Sadly their US variants seem to lag behind by quite some. L10 is similar to S10 overseas, and we don't even get S20 (Pro)/X10/X20.
Shipping the G20 (S8U equvilant) overseas is also a viable option, consider it's about $720 not counting shipping. Adding all the cost it's still half the price comparing to S8U. The only down side might be the warranty.
Cheers for the video, a lot of us are going, S8 ultra or S7 Maxv? Would you be able to do a video to compare both and not just what is better or worst but what feature are missing on the S7 compared to the S8 in the app e.g. the one way mopping, think this could really help us sitting on the fence with which one to buy. Another thing I was wondering is, do features get added with Roborock, eg do you think the S7 one way mop will be added or does Roborock not tend to do this as a company.
Great review, it's not the results I was hoping for. I waa missing some information about the lack of camera and do you think a maxV version is around the corner.
@vacuumwars Can you post on your website the scores? I am looking for one that has better mop scores but also preferably one with a “bag-less” auto empty bin. On your site now there are a select few that you list specs for.
You should try comparing this to the S7 MaxV, because I think that would help a lot of people choosing, since your videos are really helpful.
That ending animation though....is no one going to talk about that?😮
We have been having some fun with that!
You need to do a review of the just announced S8 MaxV Ultra asap :-) I really like the Ultra Dock, and they're claiming an incredible 10,000Pa suction, and 20mm mop lift height. It sounds great, but I'm waiting for your review before purchasing.
Thank you! Looking forward to getting my S8 Pro very soon. It will be a huge upgrade from my current iRobot 981!
Those “old” 980s are peak iRobot IMO.
It has served us well.
I don't even have a big enough flat to consider buying a cleaning robot. Still Your video is so cool!
Thanks!
04:36, don't leave us hanging, a lot of hair tangles, but no word about how it compares to the s7 maxv with regards to hair tangles!
to stay on the carpet better, without a doubt the solution is to place two mops, a smooth rubber one on the front to catch most of the hair and put another mop like the conventional ones, it doesn't make sense to put two identical mops, or put a mop with a brush and the system When turning, cut the hair.
I have the S7 Ultra with the auto water fill/drain dock (ordered from china, they dont sell it "officially" in the rest of the world). And THATS a real game changer. Never have to worry about how many times a day/week the robot mops because it always has water in the tank and also empties the waste accordingly. No going back to manual water changes after that. I would not buy the S8 and then the special fill/drain dock for it again (costs around 30% on top of the ULTRA model) just for upgraded dual brushes and a little better mop system.
Could you please send me the link to what it is that you ordered? I’d love to not have to change the water.
@@Texas_Painter
It doesnt let me post links here.
You'll need to google it and you'll find it im sure.
I think that you should do the Navigational and Obstacle Avoidance Test on carpet as well, because obstacle detection might be harder on carpet? Great video by the way!
Would be neat if you could measure the standby power consumption and the consumption for vacuuming on the highest power setting per m2.
Thank you for this review, I was really looking forward to it and finding out how much it is different to S7 MaxV
You're very welcome!
wow!!!!! that outro AI art is a really nice touch! Expect others to copy.
Who made the graphics at the end? They're awesome!
We did! We are having some fun with that. glad you enjoyed it!
First time watching this channel because I have been obsessed with the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra even though its to WAY to expensive for me I love the technology behind it.
This channel is amazing. Is there a specific testing methodology on how these tests got created? Do the tests get updated? any informative videos on ONLY the testing? I love it.
I love your videos. How's this for pet hair? Does it empty hair into the bin station well, or gets stuck? What's your go to for pet hair?
Great review. I currently have a ecovacs t8 omni which often gets pet hair stuck in the bin when auto emptying. Any issues with S8 on this front?
Definitely want you to mention in these videos whether the dock requires some kind of bags or other consumable to function, not having a "subscription" is a big deal to me.
The AI visual effect at the end was hypnotizing!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thsnks for tne review. Tests are very proffessional!
With Neato Robotics shutting down, I'm soon in the market to replace my D7. I don't understand why other companies have not yet taken to the D shaped design. Surprised to see that 5 years after buying my D7, it's still one of very few with this design. In this video, all the dirt was in the middle of the room. I'd like to see how vacuums do with getting into corners.
The lidar tech also allows it to vacuum with very low light.
I rn using my roomba i7 and now when its worn out ima try the ROBOROCK s7 maxv ultra because I needed a robot that vacuums and mops
I was considering replacing my S7 Max V ultra with this, due to the two moping vibrators and dual rollers, but after seeing this, there isn’t a reason. I am eager to hear other comments on this though
I was trying to decide between the S7 MaxV Ultra and the S8 Pro Ultra this past month, to replace a 3 year+ old Roborock S6. With very low pile and low traffic carpeting on the 2nd floor, and mostly hardwood on the first, I chose the S7 since many reviews said it was superior on hardwood floors. I didn't feel the added price for the S8 was justified for my needs. And, ok, I admit it. I love the hell out of that video camera. Being an old man in a big house, this has changed my life. It does a beautiful job, saves hours of time each week, and spares my back.
Your reviews are fantastic, thank you!
Our dog dribbles water on the floor in random places after drinking. Keep out zones wouldn’t work because I’d have to add keep outs for most of our kitchen and living room.
Would this be a problem with this robot? I’ve heard that water can damage the robot.
Are the obstacle sensors capable of detecting water on the floor?
Please consider making this one of your tests or mention it in the reviews. Maybe they can add this feature!
Keep up the great work!
No. It can handle a little water. however you can't use the auto vacuum after, you have to manually empty the dust bin cause it might be crusted on.
If there's too much water the robot will tell you that The floor is wetter than its limit and then pause and ask you to dry it. I wouldn't worry about it.
Two things it sounds like it's missing, at least compared to competitors:
1. Auto vacuum-full emptying (not base, but vacuum)
2. Preset cleaning zones; not just rooms. I like making the rug or near a pets cage.
I don’t understand how all these companies can make vacuums return to their docks to charge, but not to empty their dust bin mid run. Mind boggling
@@shaggyfilms Irobot has patent on dust bin full sensor as well as carpet debris sensor, I hate Irobot so much they are holding back the entire industry
I had the same issue in my kitchen. The one area where our birds are need vacuuming 1-2 times a day. The sink/food prep might need vacuuming 2-3 times a week. The table area needs it only once a week. I divided the one room into three separate rooms which spares me the job of creating zones every time I vacuum.
well i have the previous one and i have to say, it's the best buy i've ever done
I'm between a Roomba i7+ for 430€, Roborock Q7 MAX+ for 510€ or forget about the base until it's more refined in future gens and go lower midrange / budget-ish with an Eufy G30 for 250€ or an X8 Hybrid for 320€. Yep, wide price range. But what insight could you guys provide?
The standard S8 does *not* come with dual brushrolls. Might this have better suction power? 4:21
I guess Roborock supplied you with the Ultra only!?
Love the review ❤ Thanks!
We don't receive anything from the manufacturers - we bought this. Glad you enjoyed the review!
@@VacuumWars are you planning to review the S8 also?
@@reneeklo The Standard S8 *does* coke with DualRollers. They only can’t be risen.
I can’t wait to see Dyson tested on here ;)
Looks like the S7 for me.. it's perfect to peek into my vacation home 1200 miles away...
How does it do with pet hair? Does the robot have a bin sensor on the bot to tell it to go back to the dock to empty?
Two Huskies and two girls means a lot of hair!
We're still looking for a robot that can detect mirrors thus not making an error in the room. And making the mapping go haywire. Let me know if that happens one day. Thank you, great video!
Thank you for your work ! That outro was mystifying
Yup, no surprise here - as always, I say Roborock is the best. It's my version of Chris's Shark (his fav). Love my S7 Max blah blah Ultra. I had no idea that going against the grain caused streaking. I wonder if the S7 Max has that go-with-the-grain feature.
There's no reason Roborock can't add S8 features like this in a firmware update for the S7 MaxV. It has the exact same sensory capabilities; even more actually, with the camera.
I'm hoping updates start rolling in soon.