As a game dev, I love the way Ion answers questions. I agree with your view that he approaches them thoughtfully: he says what he can say, and he explains the thought process underlying things, and he takes concerns seriously. The way he talks isn't "lawyery", it's just the mix of treating the questions respectfully and the fact that he explores topics thoroughly and often avoids definitive statements on things he can't confidently state.
I think a way to make crafting more useful in a world without player housing is to allow crafters to just make cosmetic gear. Give crafters the ability to make exclusive crafting-only looks that have no stats and are for transmog purposes only. This would allow the devs to add really exclusive and hard-to-get crafting recipes which don't affect player power.
@@yasminmeier8437 Yes, very much so. Those items, however, I think have limited appeal. Their purpose was mostly to just re-introduce those looks back into the game, but since they are legacy they don't really match with current gear looks. They have dated textures and models. Don't get me wrong I still think it's really cool. What I want is that system taken into the modern era. Exclusive looks with some recipes that are complicated and time consuming to obtain.
This is exactly what I want. Like crafting motifs in ESO. Trading Post style cosmetic sets that can only be crafted. Like you said, recipes could drop from challenging content or be rare drops. Certain ones could be so rare that it has the effect Tali described of "only one person on this server can make this cosmetic set". Old recipes will remain relevant forever in the same way that people farm transmogs from old content.
You could also add mounts to that list like the pandaria panther and engineer rockets/tailoring flying rug etc they still sell for alot on ah. You could also add stuff like the mechagon shirt that makes your character have a green glow and other particle effects enchants that you can transmog on your char, like add some mist around the char, void, electricity, fire, glowing eyes etc etc
the argument about not being able to reach a spot unless you are good at dragon riding is to have treasures phase out if you are in static flying, and only being able to switch between static and dynamic while in a rested area
I wasn't sold on Dragonriding initially... until I tried it for the very first time. Now the travelling is super fun, and when the text appears, that my drake senses a glyph nearby, or I see a treasure on the minimap, I immediately drop wherever I was going and circle around until I find it.
I think something that would make the crafting system a little better is allowing crafters to post sell orders. So if a buyer is looking for a particular item, they can just click on whoever is offering to craft it. Seems like the system is only half done with only being able to post buy orders
Yeah, that's basically what every crafter uses trade for, better to have it in a static tab cus those msgs roll so fast in the chat it's so hard to catch the one you want lol
100% the "We had to add value" argument comes from higher up. This is a typical expression in the game industry when marketing or "product managers" want to say "how can we milk more money out of this at low cost for us?". Plain and simple.
At the end of the day, it became an industry norm of tiered early access because people paid for it. It wouldn't be a norm if it didn't work, wouldn't even be considered.
I really enjoyed Tal’s commentary throughout this video on the Q&A I really appreciate the thought process behind every answer that’s presented by ion.
Static flying is really nice for just relaxing and admiring the environment that the devs created. You don't really get to "see" your surroundings with dynamic flying
I have found in the new Emerald Dream zone that I do use my broom mount a lot more just to get at certain 'pods' or whatever they are called. But I really like Dragonriding.
I'm someone who does like TBC flight sometimes. Dynamic Flight is super fun but a lot of the time the way I play WoW is super laid back and I just like to chill and hover around the zones, looking at the vistas and taking it all in, flying up close to things to check out the details. You can't really do that when you need to maintain constant momentum to stay in the air. Having said that, I'm totally fine to wait till the end of the leveling process to unlock it. I prefer to do the questing experience on a ground mount the first time. I like to take my time and stop often to admire the world.
The tier set answer isn't that confusing. If you can get the item in your bag, you can learn it. If you have to use a class-specific token to obtain it, then it'll probably be class-locked. Not sure if they'll let you use the tokens to buy other class tiers from vendors, but you probably won't be able to use the tokens that give you the set piece when right-clicked.
I think what we’re wanting to hear is that even if you get a tier token for a different class (ie from greed rolls) you’ll still be able to open it to obtain the appearance for your warband
So how is dynamic flying going to work for Druids? I love having standard in Dragonflight now because I can gather the treasures without landing and often without getting into combat where I couldn't with dynamic. If I am on my dragon and I run out of vigor and start descending, I just swap to my flight form and keep going. If I choose dynamic for my flying mounts, does that mean I can no longer hover in bird form to skin or pick herbs? Will travel form still be an instant cast? I would like to see more information on this.
Hi, As a not-natural english speaker, I also thought (for a few seconds) that we were going back in time. (not using translation) I don't know why, it's how he said it "returning to the old world", "fabled lands" ... That's when he said it again for Northrend, that I started to have doubts.
I have an idea about the battle priest, what if the talent was "Inner fire: Double the armor values of all your cloth gear, additionally you are able to transmogrify plate items" to allow for the tanky priest play style AND look, without changing their itemization.
I love Dynamic Flight, I think it should just be the standard flight from now on. Although, I wouldn't mind if they included an ability to hover like regular flight can right now.
Plenty of people don't like it enough to be forced to use it exclusively. Why remove a feature instead of putting in a toggle (dynamic/regular flight), which is what they will do. So, no.
I like both forms of flying and both have their uses (leveling a druid almost exclusively in bird form is definitely a pro for traditional flying). I just hope that the toggle (which there will be a toggle, it's been stated in multiple interviews) is quickly and easily accessible so that I can switch from one to the other based on use case.
Ion is a lawyer. I am too. I also get accused of "lawyering" things in my day-to-day life. We have years of training at selecting our words thoughtfully and carefully. Shouldn't criticize him for it.
I also love dynamic flying. But, my best girlfriend is literally unable to play the game with that type of flight and it made her stop playing dragonflight entirely. The settings you can change to mitigate some of the dragonriding dynamic parts for people with issues do not help her. So, I would just unlock both at once and let people choose. Those of us who love the dynamic flight will keep on using it, and those people like her who cannot use it for physical IRL reasons, can fly slower.
@@DavidtheBard1 motion sickness is part of it. Not being able to see the "blue" coloration when you are gaining flight power back (i forget the name right this second), and the color settings have not helped with that. She has mentioned some other things too which I do not remember in enough detail to mention. I just know that it ended up being enough of a barrier for her to just quit altogether. I did tell her that it was pretty easy to unlock "normal" flying in this patch, so I am hoping she will come and check out the Emerald dream.
Dynamic flying is peachy, unless you have a condition where it literally makes you physically ill. I may have to reconsider continuing to play the game at this point, and that saddens me.
I've missed my bird form so much, I can pop on quest things and activate them, fly up out and done, where as I have to fight mobs between dragoon flights...so yea having both dragon flight and static bird form is the best. I dont have to wait for vigor to go up up up up and get those glyphs way up up up. I can target itty bitty things I want in trees better as a bird. IMO
Static flying and dynamic are so different it is almost pointless to compare them anymore. They are 2 completely spearate functions now. Its like comparing a jet fighter to a helicopter, completely different tools for completely different purposes.
@@nurvus4078 precision mainly. The AFK thing to. I use dynamic flying 99% of the time. But static flying makes harvesting nodes WAY easier for non druids. And the ability to just zoom way up and AFK safely 8s handy when you need to step away from the game unexpectedly.
I feel like people who hate Fated seasons are simply the Top like 15% who have no other games for 3-4 months or other content to do. like Fated isnt bad honestly
"War Bands is the foundation for player housing" Ion said something along the lines of, Player Housing is not something they could do in a single expansion, they'd need to build on it over time, IF they were to do it. Also Library tab? Why not just give us a Library for our house which we can put every book we collect in.
If the really wanted to increase the value of the epic edition they could have given it like 3 months game time instead of one, and nobody would be complaining
No the problem is the stupid player FOMO mentality. Who gives a damn if someone gets to level up 3 days earlier than me? I know people that are happy with this because they level up slowly and feel like the time before season one starts is not nough for them.
I think I'm the only one who doesn't mind the early access bit. I work in Enterprise Infrastructure IT, basically working on big server clusters and focusing on preventative maintenance and high uptime, and any time the software guys can stagger the flow of new users hitting a freshly deployed system, I'm a happy guy. 3 day early access *should* make launch smoother. And it's not giving anyone any tangible advantage, a week or two after launch it's not going to matter at all.
If you’re worried about AH prices. Then just don’t buy anything on the AH? I don’t understand how having mats day 1 would help at all. Most people can’t even play day 1 or 2 because the servers are so overloaded with traffic. Celoth here is 100% right
Hey Tali, thank you for this video. For next time, could you please widen the chat window so it's easier to read? The top right of the screen is pretty useless as it is.
To the xmog questions, unless something has changed isn't every appearance available as at least 1 set of droppables in raid? Like it doesn't have the tier set bonus, but it's the look of it. So you'll still be able to farm your shaman appearance on your paladin, but thanks to tier token drops the fastest way to farm the shaman set will always be on a shaman. This change is still going to insanely simplify the process of getting xmogs, as multiple runs per week on alts will now net multiple chances at all the sets you're after, not just the one for your class and its armor type look alike sets.
"going back to the old world..." - I'm pretty sure this is where a bunch of people mistakenly thought that going back to Quel'Thalas meant 'Time-travel', when in reality it's really just 'going back to the old neighbourhood'. The fact it's "incredibly entertaining to me" (quoting Tali) had me busting a gut. The glee in his/your expression 😂
So if I'm understanding what Ion said about the weekly reset, early access people will get 10 days to level to 80. Standard edition people will get the regular 7 days. The season won't start before the next week after the xpack's official launch. I think that's what he's meaning about the first server reset, right?
It's actually been 2 weeks before the season starts. He's talking about those times when expansions come out and there's a reset very soon after. Like how DF came on Monday but if you leveled to 70 before reset there weren't any weeklies for you to do right before reset, so there was no incentive to rush really hard. SL and BFA worked this way too.
@@relnor7950 So other than maybe a gold farming advantage, the 3 extra days isn't that big of a benefit? I'm trying to understand why people are so bent out of shape about some players getting 3 extra leveling days. I get that the economy might be a little messed up, but at the beginning of an xpack or patch that's the way it usually is. Ion seems to be saying there will be a week before the reset for the season start. If that's the case then there's not much that separates a hardcore player with a 3 day head start from a hardcore player that starts on "launch" day. And very likely if you're a hardcore player then you're going to have the epic edition of the game anyway. At least from a "casual" perspective. Most people that don't "rush" to max level are going to take at least the first whole week to reach max level. The 3 days also gives devs time to work on the bugs that are inevitable at the beginning of an xpack launch. This is why I'm trying to understand other's view on this. I'm not sure I agree that it's exploitative when there's a lot of other bonuses to the epic edition. It would be if the ONLY benefit was the 3 day advantage. But looking at the other items and generally how much they'd cost on the WoW shop, there's at least a $50+ value in the epic edition above what the normal xpack cost would be.
"You are stupid because you actully thought I was serious when I said you were stupid... when I was obviously just joking." He's in my top 3 of most condescending sounding WoW creators, together with Asmon and Pyro. Nevertheless, I still like listening to all 3 of them. But when it comes to "jokingly" calling their audience idiots, Tali is #1
One of my favourite things in wow is starting a new alt, low quests, quiet time just enjoying the world as it was, I really wouldn't want to lose that option.
Dragonriding is both super exciting and super frustrating. There's nothing as frustrating as bumping into a leaf and plummeting to the ground because you just spent your last vigor and now you gotta have to wait at least 2 vigor to regenerate because you're sp3ending one getting off the ground to begin with, and that's usually not enough to keep you flying. Also it can be super aggravating having to either wait for vigor to regenerate or having to go around a mountain while mounted on a FLYING DRAGON. Not to mention that if you want to just get to the top of a 2 meters rock with dragonriding, it can be extremely challenging, while regular flight takes you there in a second. I like dragonriding, I've always wanted a more dynamic flying in wow, but I guess the implementation is not the best.
I'm really grateful for all the epic edition purchasers, as they can discover all the expansion bottlenecks and problems during those 3 days. Will leave the rest of us with a more streamlined experience, less forming queues when a quest character despawns after every kill or similar.
That was kinda my thought too. Alleviate some of that typical launch day congestion, particularly if big streamers play on your server and make for large crowds.
Wait, if War Bands span your Battle net account. Does that mean it will now share through to the other Regions? So if someone has a US & EU on the same on do they finally share things?
The best part of ff14’s crafting system is even the old housing items are in demand. In wow, the old expac crafted items stop selling well when a new expac comes out. If they want crafting to be an end game pillar like 14, they need stuff you can make that are always worth buying and have a reason to buy multiple.
The only reason I use static flying at all in the Dragon Isles and the Emerald Dream is because, on my druid, I'm so used to the instant cast of flight form and it keeps my kinda immersed and maintaining momentum, if that makes sense. Where as, without my druid forms, I try to cast my movement macro, get an error cause I can't cast it while moving, and stop, cast my dragonriding mount, and it just kinda puts a pause on my momentum. Which isn't bad, it's totally fine. And I prefer dragonriding. I'm just so used to the flow of my druid after playing her for like 17 years. Once WW comes out and I have dynamic flying in my instant-cast flight form, I'll never use static flying again, and I can't wait for that.
I don't think Last Titan will be the last WoW 1 expansion, because I don't think they're planning on ever making WoW 2. What I do think though is that Last Titan is the last expack before they do something as drastic as sticking a new instance of ALL of Azeroth on top of the existing one that exists like 1,000 years in the future, and having people make new characters in that new world. Kind of WoW 2 but I think they will always want everything accessible in one client vs making like EQ2 and splintering the player base. (To note: I'm not a game dev, don't come at me if you think that idea is stupid. I just think they're tying up loose ends to take a big swing.)
I love dragon flying but i wish i could do some kind of dynamic thing on the ground like launch forward. Sometimes you dont want to spring up in the air just to hop forward abit. I also want to make the mount glide when i jump off a hill or smth, it feels like it needs to be a steep hill/cliff for the dragon to start gliding without the use of the "jump up in the sky and flap twice" ability 😅
One of the things that has historically been better with epic editions was being able to get early access to a new class or a spec and being able to get them to the last expansion max level before the new expansion releases.
I know people are down about the 3 patches before prepatch bit, but if you actually look at the calendar, there's likely still 6 updates next year (just like 2023). Also unlike past years TWW Beta will be available to play for those wanting to do something between May and September. (On top of Season of Discovery Update 2, 3, and possibly 4, and Cataclysm Classic), so I'm not too concerned. Sure it won't include an 10.3, but this really seems pretty good. January: 10.2.5 (Epilogue) March: 10.2.7 (Bridge) May: 10.2.9 (Fated) September: 11.0.0 (Prepatch) October: Launch December: 11.0.5
My (personal) Lifetime Achievement in WoW is fully exploring Northrend with Level 70, when I was to poor to buy the expansion. I needed to be Warlock summoned 2 times & died soooo much. Exploring is fun!
My biggest problem/concern with the early access is professions. It would be nice if those were disabled as well during early access. The beginning of a new expansion is where the most gold is to be made for professions.
You can tell the early access isn't exactly something being pushed by the devs and designers themselves (rather, a product initiative from higher up) but you can definitely tell that they're trying to make things okay for players within that bounds and while I might not love the monetisation and things around that still hanging around Blizzard, the teams themselves still have a lot of my trust and love.
I think they could do Warbands like Diablo 3 did. You could make a season character, which would start over new, with no access to anything else, and then at the end of the season, it became part of the group.
There's no harm in including the ability to turn off Warband for a character, but like, there's obviously massive opportunity cost. If that's just how they're architecting the game from now on, having a toggle for a character that just like... changes how their databases work for that character is probably unreasonable.
26:30 I find myself using static flying all the time now that it's available in 10.2. Of, course if I have to zoom from one end of the zone to another dragonriding is best for the speed, but there are TONS of situations where I just want to fly a short distance and the increased accuracy for landing and navigating that you get from static flying is a huge boon. Trying to find cave entrances when speeding by at 800% move speed with no way to slow down and look around for my destination was so dang annoying on Dragonriding.
I'm kinda disappointed they're not going to allow cross- faction in LFR. It would solve the long queue times issue, especially if a tank leaves prematurely. I get that some people don't want to end up with players from the opposite faction, but Blizz could easily just add an extra button to the LFR menu that says: "Allow cross- faction". Boom! Problem solved.
What if they designed a cheaper bundle with a la carte features? For $60 you could choose a cosmetic and the early access, where someone else might have chosen two cosmetics instead?
Or better yet, just make that the default for $50 and each tier gives you more choices all the way up to the full package for people who want it that bad.
nighthold is probably not gonna get a new dungeon or raid since the tier questline will be resolved as far as the discs are concerned on the 21st according to their release shedule
I feel like I'm the only person who sees the value of early access. I am on a high pop server and i remember trying to play the week of launch just for the server to overload and crash or it be too janky to play until the servers relaxed a week or two later. That three days gives me time to level in peace and that is priceless. I would say " oh but the practice is still bad", which would be correct, but also i can't get myself to care much about it. I just don't feel it's that deep.
I was angry like a lot of players about the early access until I saw another video which touched on the topic, and prompted me to do some quick research. Details below, but in a nutshell: I now think that it's actually fair pricing, and the backlash could have been avoided by blizzard, simply by having the base edition cost the £70 with no early access gimmick, and then have various other editions on top with extra goodies, should people desire them. I will be using UK values as I live in the UK so convert if necessary. 1. Statistically, the price of a highly anticipated AAA game in the UK 2023 is around £70. 2. 1 month of WoW subscription costs £10. 3. If we take the average price of a highly anticipated AAA game, and add the price of 1 month of WoW subscription to it, we get a sum total of £80. 4. For £75 we can have the new WoW expansion on what I'd call the release date as I think the early access wording is just a gimmick, 1 month of WoW subscription, access to the expansion beta and various other goodies in game that may or may not be interesting to players depending on what they play the game for/are interested in. In conclusion, I think Blizz kinda shot themselves in the foot with the wording, because if the base edition pre-order was just £70, playable at launch for all on the same day, included a level 70 boost and there was no messing around with the "early access" wording, people would have been way less likely to get upset as everyone knows that the prices of base games has been going steadily up. They then could have had extra options on top for lets say £75/£85 that they could have spun as the heroic/epic editions.
Hiw are account wide warband reps gonna work with things like the Bloodsail or Gadgetzan? I know that initially they are only gonna apply it to the new reps, but they did say they were gonna go back with it at some point.
My bestie collects the Collector Edition boxes since the begginning, obviously she won't stop now. She bought Dragonflight too, then she had to buy the expansion separately because the box came late innDecember and we wanted to start. They refunded in shop vouchers only. I love this game but this felt sooooo disrespectful when the key is DIGITAL anyway! How come they couldn't send a fricking email with a code?!?! We lost a fomo game anyway, there is no way she pays twice for game vouchers, and I won’t start playing until she can.
I think I've started looking at the editions... not as: Epic, Heroic, Base... but as: Base, Discount, Teen without a job. This IS a $89.99 game with 'I can't afford that' tiers, and if they were just honest about that... it would still be considered expensive, but wouldn't FEEL as scummy.
If they dont want to let me equip two one handers as a survival hunter then just let me transmog my weapon as two, we have the tech for it with artifact transmog
I think a hero talent that would let you TRANSMOG into different armor styles I think would be cool. Edit: Commented before it was brought up in the video.
Its not $90 to play the game early. Its $20 or $40. Not defending it, but content creators keep saying $90 for early access and that assumes you aren't buying one of the other options. Math rant over.
I have a confession: I thought we were going back in time when I heard Metzen announce Midnight and the Last Titan. In my defense, I was listening to the opening ceremony on my phone, with earbuds in the middle of the street, on the T&E stream, so there are a few degrees of interference going on there, but when Metzen said "going back to the old world" my brain automatically created an association with the original Kalimdor, even before he said Quel'thalas, and so it just took me a while to shake off that association. I fully accept Tali calling me dumb for this misconception btw x)
Only thing I’d question, you said Ion didn’t decide this about the monetisation, but people as high as ion in game dev are almost always in those financial conversations. I work in software and people as high up as ion are NOT devs, they’re great people doing a great job under a tough situation but they are very often involved in financial and business decisions. He very likely signed off on this AT BEST reluctantly.
I wish there was a mode the way we can toggle war mode. That lets us see everyone character/player for what they really look like void of transmog. I miss being able to see us all like clowns until we gear ourselves up
It is a 3 day staggered release and instead of a lotto people can self select with money. It isn't great but if you can't build your garrison for a day or two due to a launch day bug only the people paying more will be impacted.
I do feel bad for the devs, most of the shit that makes players mad aren't their decisions. It's the corporate assholes who only care about the profits, but it would be nice to hear devs callout the bullshit too.
where did tali get the idea that warbands are all characters? the screenshot they showed off clearly showed other characters that arent in the warband...
the value (hopefully) in early access is not having to be stuck in a friggin que for hours on end. The Release of DF made me switch server. Draenor in EU was unplayable
Yeah right, cause release day has gone SO smoothly every time. Us 3-day early people will be live testing to get shit fixed for the people that don't have early release so maybe for once the official launch won't be such a shitshow...
I really hope there will be a normal flying druid form, I'm so tired of the new flying and the stupid dragons getting too tired to fly just one second before i reach the top of a ledge and then fall all the way back down
There is! I unlocked day 1 of the patch and got the azure owl form. I have a lower end PC, so dragonriding has been rough. It also makes mat harvesting 100x easier.
@@OGDweeb yea my internet is so shit i often lag too much for dragonflying, but i meant in future expacs where they wanna make everything dynamic flying, i still want my druid to be able to static fly, because i far prefer that version of flying
What if WoW2 ends up being the idea PoE wanted? Same game, new game files, gfx overhaul etc. But no new client, no new launcher, no worries for losing old collections etc. Just a massive world and graphics overhaul to retcon all the old stories etc and have a clean sparkly new slate for "WoW 2".
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As a game dev, I love the way Ion answers questions. I agree with your view that he approaches them thoughtfully: he says what he can say, and he explains the thought process underlying things, and he takes concerns seriously. The way he talks isn't "lawyery", it's just the mix of treating the questions respectfully and the fact that he explores topics thoroughly and often avoids definitive statements on things he can't confidently state.
he's got serious Phil Spencer vibes lately... and that's a good thing
Same, also a game dev and I've always been fascinated by how he answers questions and his reasoning
I have a lady in my guild who has trouble dragonriding but she still loves it because she does feel rewarded when she does get up somewhere
I think a way to make crafting more useful in a world without player housing is to allow crafters to just make cosmetic gear. Give crafters the ability to make exclusive crafting-only looks that have no stats and are for transmog purposes only. This would allow the devs to add really exclusive and hard-to-get crafting recipes which don't affect player power.
isnt that already the case with the naxx transmogs?
@@yasminmeier8437 Yes, very much so. Those items, however, I think have limited appeal. Their purpose was mostly to just re-introduce those looks back into the game, but since they are legacy they don't really match with current gear looks. They have dated textures and models. Don't get me wrong I still think it's really cool.
What I want is that system taken into the modern era. Exclusive looks with some recipes that are complicated and time consuming to obtain.
This is exactly what I want. Like crafting motifs in ESO. Trading Post style cosmetic sets that can only be crafted. Like you said, recipes could drop from challenging content or be rare drops. Certain ones could be so rare that it has the effect Tali described of "only one person on this server can make this cosmetic set". Old recipes will remain relevant forever in the same way that people farm transmogs from old content.
@@jonimated They should have added both the old naxx transmogs and new, hd versions of the same items.
You could also add mounts to that list like the pandaria panther and engineer rockets/tailoring flying rug etc they still sell for alot on ah. You could also add stuff like the mechagon shirt that makes your character have a green glow and other particle effects enchants that you can transmog on your char, like add some mist around the char, void, electricity, fire, glowing eyes etc etc
the argument about not being able to reach a spot unless you are good at dragon riding is to have treasures phase out if you are in static flying, and only being able to switch between static and dynamic while in a rested area
I wasn't sold on Dragonriding initially... until I tried it for the very first time. Now the travelling is super fun, and when the text appears, that my drake senses a glyph nearby, or I see a treasure on the minimap, I immediately drop wherever I was going and circle around until I find it.
I think something that would make the crafting system a little better is allowing crafters to post sell orders. So if a buyer is looking for a particular item, they can just click on whoever is offering to craft it. Seems like the system is only half done with only being able to post buy orders
Yeah, that's basically what every crafter uses trade for, better to have it in a static tab cus those msgs roll so fast in the chat it's so hard to catch the one you want lol
I agree with the player housing aspect regarding professions. It will allow professions to have near infinite stuff to do.
100% the "We had to add value" argument comes from higher up. This is a typical expression in the game industry when marketing or "product managers" want to say "how can we milk more money out of this at low cost for us?". Plain and simple.
At the end of the day, it became an industry norm of tiered early access because people paid for it. It wouldn't be a norm if it didn't work, wouldn't even be considered.
Are the higher ups like Microsoft?
I really enjoyed Tal’s commentary throughout this video on the Q&A I really appreciate the thought process behind every answer that’s presented by ion.
Static flying is really nice for just relaxing and admiring the environment that the devs created. You don't really get to "see" your surroundings with dynamic flying
i absolutely hated dynamic flight at first but after i got my glyphs it's literally the best thing ever
English is not my first language and even I understand that 'going back to the old world" is just returning to Azeroth, not to the past.
I have found in the new Emerald Dream zone that I do use my broom mount a lot more just to get at certain 'pods' or whatever they are called. But I really like Dragonriding.
I'm someone who does like TBC flight sometimes. Dynamic Flight is super fun but a lot of the time the way I play WoW is super laid back and I just like to chill and hover around the zones, looking at the vistas and taking it all in, flying up close to things to check out the details. You can't really do that when you need to maintain constant momentum to stay in the air. Having said that, I'm totally fine to wait till the end of the leveling process to unlock it. I prefer to do the questing experience on a ground mount the first time. I like to take my time and stop often to admire the world.
The tier set answer isn't that confusing. If you can get the item in your bag, you can learn it. If you have to use a class-specific token to obtain it, then it'll probably be class-locked.
Not sure if they'll let you use the tokens to buy other class tiers from vendors, but you probably won't be able to use the tokens that give you the set piece when right-clicked.
I think what we’re wanting to hear is that even if you get a tier token for a different class (ie from greed rolls) you’ll still be able to open it to obtain the appearance for your warband
So how is dynamic flying going to work for Druids? I love having standard in Dragonflight now because I can gather the treasures without landing and often without getting into combat where I couldn't with dynamic. If I am on my dragon and I run out of vigor and start descending, I just swap to my flight form and keep going. If I choose dynamic for my flying mounts, does that mean I can no longer hover in bird form to skin or pick herbs? Will travel form still be an instant cast? I would like to see more information on this.
Hi,
As a not-natural english speaker, I also thought (for a few seconds) that we were going back in time. (not using translation)
I don't know why, it's how he said it "returning to the old world", "fabled lands" ...
That's when he said it again for Northrend, that I started to have doubts.
I have an idea about the battle priest, what if the talent was "Inner fire: Double the armor values of all your cloth gear, additionally you are able to transmogrify plate items" to allow for the tanky priest play style AND look, without changing their itemization.
I love Dynamic Flight, I think it should just be the standard flight from now on. Although, I wouldn't mind if they included an ability to hover like regular flight can right now.
Plenty of people don't like it enough to be forced to use it exclusively. Why remove a feature instead of putting in a toggle (dynamic/regular flight), which is what they will do. So, no.
I like both forms of flying and both have their uses (leveling a druid almost exclusively in bird form is definitely a pro for traditional flying). I just hope that the toggle (which there will be a toggle, it's been stated in multiple interviews) is quickly and easily accessible so that I can switch from one to the other based on use case.
Straight to jail. Right away.
@@twelvezeros giving player the option for everything is bad practise. it has to make sense.
@@sprendinea Right just give druids dynamic flight with dynamic flight having a hover option...
We need the yellow pages for crafting orders
Ion is a lawyer. I am too. I also get accused of "lawyering" things in my day-to-day life. We have years of training at selecting our words thoughtfully and carefully. Shouldn't criticize him for it.
I also love dynamic flying. But, my best girlfriend is literally unable to play the game with that type of flight and it made her stop playing dragonflight entirely. The settings you can change to mitigate some of the dragonriding dynamic parts for people with issues do not help her. So, I would just unlock both at once and let people choose. Those of us who love the dynamic flight will keep on using it, and those people like her who cannot use it for physical IRL reasons, can fly slower.
What is it about dynamic flying that makes her unable to play the game? Is it a motion sickness issue, a control issue? Just curious
@@DavidtheBard1 motion sickness is part of it. Not being able to see the "blue" coloration when you are gaining flight power back (i forget the name right this second), and the color settings have not helped with that. She has mentioned some other things too which I do not remember in enough detail to mention. I just know that it ended up being enough of a barrier for her to just quit altogether. I did tell her that it was pretty easy to unlock "normal" flying in this patch, so I am hoping she will come and check out the Emerald dream.
Dynamic flying is peachy, unless you have a condition where it literally makes you physically ill. I may have to reconsider continuing to play the game at this point, and that saddens me.
I've missed my bird form so much, I can pop on quest things and activate them, fly up out and done, where as I have to fight mobs between dragoon flights...so yea having both dragon flight and static bird form is the best. I dont have to wait for vigor to go up up up up and get those glyphs way up up up. I can target itty bitty things I want in trees better as a bird. IMO
Static flying and dynamic are so different it is almost pointless to compare them anymore. They are 2 completely spearate functions now. Its like comparing a jet fighter to a helicopter, completely different tools for completely different purposes.
I'm curious to know what value does static flying offer other than letting you go afk in the air, and why is that even important.
@@nurvus4078 precision mainly. The AFK thing to. I use dynamic flying 99% of the time. But static flying makes harvesting nodes WAY easier for non druids. And the ability to just zoom way up and AFK safely 8s handy when you need to step away from the game unexpectedly.
I feel like people who hate Fated seasons are simply the Top like 15% who have no other games for 3-4 months or other content to do. like Fated isnt bad honestly
"War Bands is the foundation for player housing"
Ion said something along the lines of, Player Housing is not something they could do in a single expansion, they'd need to build on it over time, IF they were to do it.
Also Library tab? Why not just give us a Library for our house which we can put every book we collect in.
I'd love to be the alchemist that specializes in making fancy glowy lamps for peoples houses
If the really wanted to increase the value of the epic edition they could have given it like 3 months game time instead of one, and nobody would be complaining
No the problem is the stupid player FOMO mentality. Who gives a damn if someone gets to level up 3 days earlier than me? I know people that are happy with this because they level up slowly and feel like the time before season one starts is not nough for them.
Best case for warbands is either we choose, or our player housing is the back ground.
Did they delete the, "I'm disappointed in you" comment chain?
I think I'm the only one who doesn't mind the early access bit.
I work in Enterprise Infrastructure IT, basically working on big server clusters and focusing on preventative maintenance and high uptime, and any time the software guys can stagger the flow of new users hitting a freshly deployed system, I'm a happy guy. 3 day early access *should* make launch smoother. And it's not giving anyone any tangible advantage, a week or two after launch it's not going to matter at all.
It will absolutely help with controlling the market for some items
If you’re worried about AH prices. Then just don’t buy anything on the AH? I don’t understand how having mats day 1 would help at all. Most people can’t even play day 1 or 2 because the servers are so overloaded with traffic. Celoth here is 100% right
I mean, it's more because you and I both know that "everyone" is going to buy the big fancy version
Hey Tali, thank you for this video. For next time, could you please widen the chat window so it's easier to read? The top right of the screen is pretty useless as it is.
To the xmog questions, unless something has changed isn't every appearance available as at least 1 set of droppables in raid? Like it doesn't have the tier set bonus, but it's the look of it.
So you'll still be able to farm your shaman appearance on your paladin, but thanks to tier token drops the fastest way to farm the shaman set will always be on a shaman. This change is still going to insanely simplify the process of getting xmogs, as multiple runs per week on alts will now net multiple chances at all the sets you're after, not just the one for your class and its armor type look alike sets.
"going back to the old world..." - I'm pretty sure this is where a bunch of people mistakenly thought that going back to Quel'Thalas meant 'Time-travel', when in reality it's really just 'going back to the old neighbourhood'. The fact it's "incredibly entertaining to me" (quoting Tali) had me busting a gut. The glee in his/your expression 😂
So if I'm understanding what Ion said about the weekly reset, early access people will get 10 days to level to 80. Standard edition people will get the regular 7 days. The season won't start before the next week after the xpack's official launch. I think that's what he's meaning about the first server reset, right?
It's actually been 2 weeks before the season starts. He's talking about those times when expansions come out and there's a reset very soon after. Like how DF came on Monday but if you leveled to 70 before reset there weren't any weeklies for you to do right before reset, so there was no incentive to rush really hard. SL and BFA worked this way too.
@@relnor7950 So other than maybe a gold farming advantage, the 3 extra days isn't that big of a benefit? I'm trying to understand why people are so bent out of shape about some players getting 3 extra leveling days. I get that the economy might be a little messed up, but at the beginning of an xpack or patch that's the way it usually is. Ion seems to be saying there will be a week before the reset for the season start. If that's the case then there's not much that separates a hardcore player with a 3 day head start from a hardcore player that starts on "launch" day. And very likely if you're a hardcore player then you're going to have the epic edition of the game anyway. At least from a "casual" perspective. Most people that don't "rush" to max level are going to take at least the first whole week to reach max level. The 3 days also gives devs time to work on the bugs that are inevitable at the beginning of an xpack launch. This is why I'm trying to understand other's view on this. I'm not sure I agree that it's exploitative when there's a lot of other bonuses to the epic edition. It would be if the ONLY benefit was the 3 day advantage. But looking at the other items and generally how much they'd cost on the WoW shop, there's at least a $50+ value in the epic edition above what the normal xpack cost would be.
Making warbands opt out probably presents some technical problems since its now ”rebuilt from the ground up” to work with warbands
"You are stupid because you actully thought I was serious when I said you were stupid... when I was obviously just joking."
He's in my top 3 of most condescending sounding WoW creators, together with Asmon and Pyro.
Nevertheless, I still like listening to all 3 of them. But when it comes to "jokingly" calling their audience idiots, Tali is #1
One of my favourite things in wow is starting a new alt, low quests, quiet time just enjoying the world as it was, I really wouldn't want to lose that option.
warband housing where all your characters are just hanging out together
Dragonriding is both super exciting and super frustrating. There's nothing as frustrating as bumping into a leaf and plummeting to the ground because you just spent your last vigor and now you gotta have to wait at least 2 vigor to regenerate because you're sp3ending one getting off the ground to begin with, and that's usually not enough to keep you flying. Also it can be super aggravating having to either wait for vigor to regenerate or having to go around a mountain while mounted on a FLYING DRAGON. Not to mention that if you want to just get to the top of a 2 meters rock with dragonriding, it can be extremely challenging, while regular flight takes you there in a second.
I like dragonriding, I've always wanted a more dynamic flying in wow, but I guess the implementation is not the best.
Good thing you get 3 instant vigor recharges now
@@briancates3576 They help a lot, but they're still a bit obnoxious to use. But it certainly is an improvement.
Ion is hotter
I'm really grateful for all the epic edition purchasers, as they can discover all the expansion bottlenecks and problems during those 3 days. Will leave the rest of us with a more streamlined experience, less forming queues when a quest character despawns after every kill or similar.
That was kinda my thought too. Alleviate some of that typical launch day congestion, particularly if big streamers play on your server and make for large crowds.
Wait, if War Bands span your Battle net account. Does that mean it will now share through to the other Regions? So if someone has a US & EU on the same on do they finally share things?
The best part of ff14’s crafting system is even the old housing items are in demand. In wow, the old expac crafted items stop selling well when a new expac comes out. If they want crafting to be an end game pillar like 14, they need stuff you can make that are always worth buying and have a reason to buy multiple.
The only reason I use static flying at all in the Dragon Isles and the Emerald Dream is because, on my druid, I'm so used to the instant cast of flight form and it keeps my kinda immersed and maintaining momentum, if that makes sense. Where as, without my druid forms, I try to cast my movement macro, get an error cause I can't cast it while moving, and stop, cast my dragonriding mount, and it just kinda puts a pause on my momentum. Which isn't bad, it's totally fine. And I prefer dragonriding. I'm just so used to the flow of my druid after playing her for like 17 years.
Once WW comes out and I have dynamic flying in my instant-cast flight form, I'll never use static flying again, and I can't wait for that.
Calling a former Attorney "Lawery" .... what else would you expect?!
I don't think Last Titan will be the last WoW 1 expansion, because I don't think they're planning on ever making WoW 2. What I do think though is that Last Titan is the last expack before they do something as drastic as sticking a new instance of ALL of Azeroth on top of the existing one that exists like 1,000 years in the future, and having people make new characters in that new world. Kind of WoW 2 but I think they will always want everything accessible in one client vs making like EQ2 and splintering the player base. (To note: I'm not a game dev, don't come at me if you think that idea is stupid. I just think they're tying up loose ends to take a big swing.)
I love dragon flying but i wish i could do some kind of dynamic thing on the ground like launch forward. Sometimes you dont want to spring up in the air just to hop forward abit. I also want to make the mount glide when i jump off a hill or smth, it feels like it needs to be a steep hill/cliff for the dragon to start gliding without the use of the "jump up in the sky and flap twice" ability 😅
I think I'd prefer to have several warbands... pick 5 toons to be in this warband, 4 in that warband, 10 in that warband. RP reasons really.
One of the things that has historically been better with epic editions was being able to get early access to a new class or a spec and being able to get them to the last expansion max level before the new expansion releases.
I know people are down about the 3 patches before prepatch bit, but if you actually look at the calendar, there's likely still 6 updates next year (just like 2023). Also unlike past years TWW Beta will be available to play for those wanting to do something between May and September. (On top of Season of Discovery Update 2, 3, and possibly 4, and Cataclysm Classic), so I'm not too concerned. Sure it won't include an 10.3, but this really seems pretty good.
January: 10.2.5 (Epilogue)
March: 10.2.7 (Bridge)
May: 10.2.9 (Fated)
September: 11.0.0 (Prepatch)
October: Launch
December: 11.0.5
My (personal) Lifetime Achievement in WoW is fully exploring Northrend with Level 70, when I was to poor to buy the expansion. I needed to be Warlock summoned 2 times & died soooo much. Exploring is fun!
My biggest problem/concern with the early access is professions. It would be nice if those were disabled as well during early access. The beginning of a new expansion is where the most gold is to be made for professions.
I was really REALLY hopeful that the hero talents would let me play shadow the way it was in Legion/BfA…but I’m sure that’s just a pipe dream
You can tell the early access isn't exactly something being pushed by the devs and designers themselves (rather, a product initiative from higher up) but you can definitely tell that they're trying to make things okay for players within that bounds and while I might not love the monetisation and things around that still hanging around Blizzard, the teams themselves still have a lot of my trust and love.
I think they could do Warbands like Diablo 3 did. You could make a season character, which would start over new, with no access to anything else, and then at the end of the season, it became part of the group.
There's no harm in including the ability to turn off Warband for a character, but like, there's obviously massive opportunity cost. If that's just how they're architecting the game from now on, having a toggle for a character that just like... changes how their databases work for that character is probably unreasonable.
Also wish they would start a dyeing system to change gear colors
I'm so excited for hero talents are they are, theyre basically sub specs. I just hope warlocks get exciting options
I have low expectations on that front.. as a Warlock main 😑
@@ShadowsOfThePast I just want a necromancer option and an eldritch shadow 😪
@@brandonheuberger187 I hope they would make some interesting changes to Destro gameplay.. affli could use some help too.
26:30 I find myself using static flying all the time now that it's available in 10.2. Of, course if I have to zoom from one end of the zone to another dragonriding is best for the speed, but there are TONS of situations where I just want to fly a short distance and the increased accuracy for landing and navigating that you get from static flying is a huge boon. Trying to find cave entrances when speeding by at 800% move speed with no way to slow down and look around for my destination was so dang annoying on Dragonriding.
I'm kinda disappointed they're not going to allow cross- faction in LFR. It would solve the long queue times issue, especially if a tank leaves prematurely. I get that some people don't want to end up with players from the opposite faction, but Blizz could easily just add an extra button to the LFR menu that says: "Allow cross- faction". Boom! Problem solved.
“I feel like I have to say it” Tali whyyyyy did you have to preface it like thattt
What if they designed a cheaper bundle with a la carte features? For $60 you could choose a cosmetic and the early access, where someone else might have chosen two cosmetics instead?
Or better yet, just make that the default for $50 and each tier gives you more choices all the way up to the full package for people who want it that bad.
It's actually a VERY good idea
"limit what we're asking you to hold" HOW ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO HOLD. God, this isn't difficult to understand. Some of us like *souvenirs*.
nighthold is probably not gonna get a new dungeon or raid since the tier questline will be resolved as far as the discs are concerned on the 21st according to their release shedule
Why did he HAVE to call her hot weird as hell
...if we're going to have to gather keys for Delves...they could easily just put the old Key Ring from Vanilla back in
I feel like I'm the only person who sees the value of early access. I am on a high pop server and i remember trying to play the week of launch just for the server to overload and crash or it be too janky to play until the servers relaxed a week or two later. That three days gives me time to level in peace and that is priceless.
I would say " oh but the practice is still bad", which would be correct, but also i can't get myself to care much about it. I just don't feel it's that deep.
I was angry like a lot of players about the early access until I saw another video which touched on the topic, and prompted me to do some quick research. Details below, but in a nutshell: I now think that it's actually fair pricing, and the backlash could have been avoided by blizzard, simply by having the base edition cost the £70 with no early access gimmick, and then have various other editions on top with extra goodies, should people desire them. I will be using UK values as I live in the UK so convert if necessary.
1. Statistically, the price of a highly anticipated AAA game in the UK 2023 is around £70.
2. 1 month of WoW subscription costs £10.
3. If we take the average price of a highly anticipated AAA game, and add the price of 1 month of WoW subscription to it, we get a sum total of £80.
4. For £75 we can have the new WoW expansion on what I'd call the release date as I think the early access wording is just a gimmick, 1 month of WoW subscription, access to the expansion beta and various other goodies in game that may or may not be interesting to players depending on what they play the game for/are interested in.
In conclusion, I think Blizz kinda shot themselves in the foot with the wording, because if the base edition pre-order was just £70, playable at launch for all on the same day, included a level 70 boost and there was no messing around with the "early access" wording, people would have been way less likely to get upset as everyone knows that the prices of base games has been going steadily up. They then could have had extra options on top for lets say £75/£85 that they could have spun as the heroic/epic editions.
Hiw are account wide warband reps gonna work with things like the Bloodsail or Gadgetzan? I know that initially they are only gonna apply it to the new reps, but they did say they were gonna go back with it at some point.
My bestie collects the Collector Edition boxes since the begginning, obviously she won't stop now. She bought Dragonflight too, then she had to buy the expansion separately because the box came late innDecember and we wanted to start. They refunded in shop vouchers only. I love this game but this felt sooooo disrespectful when the key is DIGITAL anyway! How come they couldn't send a fricking email with a code?!?! We lost a fomo game anyway, there is no way she pays twice for game vouchers, and I won’t start playing until she can.
I think I've started looking at the editions... not as: Epic, Heroic, Base... but as: Base, Discount, Teen without a job. This IS a $89.99 game with 'I can't afford that' tiers, and if they were just honest about that... it would still be considered expensive, but wouldn't FEEL as scummy.
If they dont want to let me equip two one handers as a survival hunter then just let me transmog my weapon as two, we have the tech for it with artifact transmog
I have used static flying a lot in emerald dream for the stuff in trees.
I think a hero talent that would let you TRANSMOG into different armor styles I think would be cool. Edit: Commented before it was brought up in the video.
They could just make a glyph that allows Priests to transmog their cloth to look like plate gear. Edit:(Tali just said this as I hit enter....lol.)
Time is a tangled web
i dont know why people care about player housing
Its not $90 to play the game early. Its $20 or $40. Not defending it, but content creators keep saying $90 for early access and that assumes you aren't buying one of the other options. Math rant over.
I would have thought that early access relaxes the flow of people coming in to avoid lag and DCing.
I have a confession: I thought we were going back in time when I heard Metzen announce Midnight and the Last Titan. In my defense, I was listening to the opening ceremony on my phone, with earbuds in the middle of the street, on the T&E stream, so there are a few degrees of interference going on there, but when Metzen said "going back to the old world" my brain automatically created an association with the original Kalimdor, even before he said Quel'thalas, and so it just took me a while to shake off that association.
I fully accept Tali calling me dumb for this misconception btw x)
I just wish they would take the armor type restrictions off for transmog…. Other than tier sets since they normally class tailored stuff
I just made a post about the library tab on the wow forums, i think it would be so nice if we could learn them like toys.
a 2 boss raid would be amazing, 9 boss raids for the fated, plus an eye of eternity style side raid thats always active
Only thing I’d question, you said Ion didn’t decide this about the monetisation, but people as high as ion in game dev are almost always in those financial conversations.
I work in software and people as high up as ion are NOT devs, they’re great people doing a great job under a tough situation but they are very often involved in financial and business decisions. He very likely signed off on this AT BEST reluctantly.
I wanna know if we get a physical box of the Collector's Edition?
I wish there was a mode the way we can toggle war mode. That lets us see everyone character/player for what they really look like void of transmog. I miss being able to see us all like clowns until we gear ourselves up
It is a 3 day staggered release and instead of a lotto people can self select with money. It isn't great but if you can't build your garrison for a day or two due to a launch day bug only the people paying more will be impacted.
I wish we could place crafting orders for items from previous expansions.
I would literally marry Ion. Sugar daddy goals.
I love those AI text misspells for fantasy words lol
Some people use their arse not only to sit on but also to think, to see and to listen.
I do feel bad for the devs, most of the shit that makes players mad aren't their decisions. It's the corporate assholes who only care about the profits, but it would be nice to hear devs callout the bullshit too.
where did tali get the idea that warbands are all characters? the screenshot they showed off clearly showed other characters that arent in the warband...
40:04 oh shit, does this mean you can multi-box to power grind rep?!?
the value (hopefully) in early access is not having to be stuck in a friggin que for hours on end. The Release of DF made me switch server. Draenor in EU was unplayable
Yeah right, cause release day has gone SO smoothly every time. Us 3-day early people will be live testing to get shit fixed for the people that don't have early release so maybe for once the official launch won't be such a shitshow...
I really hope there will be a normal flying druid form,
I'm so tired of the new flying and the stupid dragons getting too tired to fly just one second before i reach the top of a ledge and then fall all the way back down
There is! I unlocked day 1 of the patch and got the azure owl form. I have a lower end PC, so dragonriding has been rough. It also makes mat harvesting 100x easier.
@@OGDweeb yea my internet is so shit i often lag too much for dragonflying, but i meant in future expacs where they wanna make everything dynamic flying, i still want my druid to be able to static fly, because i far prefer that version of flying
What if WoW2 ends up being the idea PoE wanted? Same game, new game files, gfx overhaul etc. But no new client, no new launcher, no worries for losing old collections etc. Just a massive world and graphics overhaul to retcon all the old stories etc and have a clean sparkly new slate for "WoW 2".