So, I actually don’t know anything about this conlang yet, as this is the first video I’ve watched about it due to RUclips’s suggestion algorithm. As a chemist by trade and a conlang enthusiast by free time, I thought this was really cool. I have a couple of questions though about your thought process that I hope you’ll take the time to answer a bit. So these are some major features I was able to pick up on: So, I was able to pick up that it is a voiceless language (or at least no voiced plosives and fricatives). There is no “h” sound which is left silent, or replaced with “p” as a last resort when it’s voicing is critical to stop vowel clustering). There are no rhotics or “r”’s, which are just replaced with the lateral appropriate “l” if it’s actually present in the word, or just dropped if it’s used to elongate a vowel. There is no “f” which are often replaced with “p” when necessary, while “v” is replaced with “w”. It seems to have a reasonably simple syllable structure, only one constant allowed in an onset and coda of a syllable. And no vowel clustering due to empty onset of coda. And then I have some questions that I wrote while watching at half speed the second time around and pausing on every element (so some of the questions show my thought process too and are more comments on me understanding as I went along): I enjoyed the use of the old Latin and Greek names and thought they had great translations. The only one I am confused about is Tungsten, as I cannot see how “Opan” came from tungsten or wolfram. Maybe it is too simple for me too see properly. I did see you had “W” in your inventory with vanadium, so I would maybe have expected “wopan” or “wolan”, or maybe “olpan”? Is there a reason why “opan” was used instead of these? Thinking about it some more, wolf-ram would be “op-lan” according to the rules I’ve deduced, but that just merges into the syllables “o-plan”, with a 2 consonant onset cluster, which wouldn’t be allowed. And I guess “wo-“ is quite close to an “o” since “w” includes a labial component mirroring the rounding of “o” while the velar component is around the same articulation point in the mouth for both sounds. So yeah, I guess Opan does make sense. I didn’t understand why titanium was “Sitanijun” and not “Titanijun”. Is there a reason that it didn’t start with a “T”? Or why cobalt was “Kopa” and not “Kopat” or “Kopal”. Why is Rubidium “Lupisijun” and not “Lupitejun”. (Because Strontium is “Sontejun”, so it is done with the “t”). It is done again for Rhodium into “Losijun” and Palladium into “Pallasijun, and a lot more. I must be missing something to do with it being ok or better to convert “d” into “s” over converting “d” into “t” for these particular set if words, mainly “-dium”, and I’m not sure if it’s the same reasoning for the beginning T in Titanium too? I’ve come across Praseodymium to “Pasijosimium” too. All the “-dymiums” actually. Ytterbium is “Itepijun” while Yttrium is “Isijun”. (I would like to point out I did noticed you replaced “t”s in words like tecnitium with “s” sounds, but that’s fine because the “s” there is being used to make a “sh”. I’m specifically talking about “s”’s often replacing the actual /t/ sound.) Protactinium is “Potasinijun” instead of “Potakinijun” like I might expect. As Moscovium does have a k in “Mokopijun”. So I’m surprised /sk/ goes to /k/, while /kt/ became /s/. So overall, a lot more “s” being used than I would expected from your phonemic inventory I came to learn from the video. Could you go over a few reasons you used “s” over mainly “t” (and sometimes “k”) in the examples provided? Sorry for how long this is, but I hope it is at least good to know that someone has spent a long time analysing this video because they thought it was really cool 🙂
first off, im glad you had fun analyzing the examples in this video! its interesting how much you were able to take from a video that just lists proper nouns for this song, I adapted names from a list made by someone going by "jan Maku", so while I dont have exact reasoning for all the names, I can explain why names are usually transliterated in the way they are here -you are correct to notice that there are only voiceless plosives and fricatives, those being /p t k s/ -there are no rhotics, so r is usually replaced by l (if coming from a trill or tapped r), w (if coming from the english approximant r), or sometimes k (if coming from a french or german uvular r) -you are correct to see the syllable structure is very simplistic, as it is (C)V(n), with a ban on consecutive vowels or nasals -for Wolfram -> Opan, something like "Wopan" would have made more sense, but, the syllables "wu" and "wo" are banned, due to the semivowels being too close to the vowels themselves, so the W was dropped there arent any consonant clusters (besides involving n at the end of syllables), so out of Olan (from the l, or r) and Opan (from the f), Opan was chosen -for Titanium -> Sitanijun, the syllable "ti" is another one of the banned syllables, since because of palatalization, "ti" tends to shift to si or shi in natural languages, so in transliterations, "ti" is variously converted to "si" (to keep the vowel), or "te" (to keep the t), with both of these strategies being in free variation (the other banned syllable is "ji", for the same reason as "wu" and "wo") -since n is the only consonant that can end a syllable, "Kopa" is the closest name for Cobalt without adding a third syllable -for Rubidium -> Lupisijun, for the same reason as Titanium, the "ti" (devoiced from the "di") was converted to "si", but there really isnt any reason why it couldnt be "Lupitejun" instead I prefer changing "ti" to "si", instead of to "te", since the vowel distinction seems important to me, but its up to personal preference -for Protactinium -> Potasinijun, since most consonant clusters cannot occur, it is usually the second consonant in a cluster that is kept (in Protactinium's case, the t is also at the start of the name's stressed syllable, so it can be seen as having more significance for recognizability than the k) in this example, /kti/ was changed to "ti" (keeping the t, instead of the k), and then it was changed to "si" to avoid the banned syllable "ti" -overall, s is the only fricative, and "ti" is often converted to "si", so that probably explains why it occurs so often no problem with the long comment! its very interesting to see someone's thought process in understanding a language they havent heard of before if youd like to learn more about it, there is information and resources on tokipona.org I hope you have fun! o pona!
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i was fully expecting to just here the word kiwen a hundred times
kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen kiwen
now we need 100 digits of toki pona pi
mute.wan mute wan mute mute tu mute mute mute mute mute mute mute mute mute tu mute mute mute mute tu
san.wan po wan luka lukatutu tu sansan luka san luka lukasan lukatutu likujo lukatutu san tu san lukatuwan po sansan tu
@@MajaxPlop a
nanpa sike
toki pona pi seme ?
I was so worried that elements in toki pona weren’t loanwords
Was just wondering if this level of precision was possible. Bravo.
Wow, I didn't know I needed it before looking at this masterpiece. Sina pona a!
So, I actually don’t know anything about this conlang yet, as this is the first video I’ve watched about it due to RUclips’s suggestion algorithm. As a chemist by trade and a conlang enthusiast by free time, I thought this was really cool. I have a couple of questions though about your thought process that I hope you’ll take the time to answer a bit.
So these are some major features I was able to pick up on:
So, I was able to pick up that it is a voiceless language (or at least no voiced plosives and fricatives).
There is no “h” sound which is left silent, or replaced with “p” as a last resort when it’s voicing is critical to stop vowel clustering).
There are no rhotics or “r”’s, which are just replaced with the lateral appropriate “l” if it’s actually present in the word, or just dropped if it’s used to elongate a vowel.
There is no “f” which are often replaced with “p” when necessary, while “v” is replaced with “w”.
It seems to have a reasonably simple syllable structure, only one constant allowed in an onset and coda of a syllable. And no vowel clustering due to empty onset of coda.
And then I have some questions that I wrote while watching at half speed the second time around and pausing on every element (so some of the questions show my thought process too and are more comments on me understanding as I went along):
I enjoyed the use of the old Latin and Greek names and thought they had great translations. The only one I am confused about is Tungsten, as I cannot see how “Opan” came from tungsten or wolfram. Maybe it is too simple for me too see properly. I did see you had “W” in your inventory with vanadium, so I would maybe have expected “wopan” or “wolan”, or maybe “olpan”? Is there a reason why “opan” was used instead of these? Thinking about it some more, wolf-ram would be “op-lan” according to the rules I’ve deduced, but that just merges into the syllables “o-plan”, with a 2 consonant onset cluster, which wouldn’t be allowed. And I guess “wo-“ is quite close to an “o” since “w” includes a labial component mirroring the rounding of “o” while the velar component is around the same articulation point in the mouth for both sounds. So yeah, I guess Opan does make sense.
I didn’t understand why titanium was “Sitanijun” and not “Titanijun”. Is there a reason that it didn’t start with a “T”?
Or why cobalt was “Kopa” and not “Kopat” or “Kopal”.
Why is Rubidium “Lupisijun” and not “Lupitejun”. (Because Strontium is “Sontejun”, so it is done with the “t”). It is done again for Rhodium into “Losijun” and Palladium into “Pallasijun, and a lot more. I must be missing something to do with it being ok or better to convert “d” into “s” over converting “d” into “t” for these particular set if words, mainly “-dium”, and I’m not sure if it’s the same reasoning for the beginning T in Titanium too? I’ve come across Praseodymium to “Pasijosimium” too. All the “-dymiums” actually.
Ytterbium is “Itepijun” while Yttrium is “Isijun”.
(I would like to point out I did noticed you replaced “t”s in words like tecnitium with “s” sounds, but that’s fine because the “s” there is being used to make a “sh”. I’m specifically talking about “s”’s often replacing the actual /t/ sound.)
Protactinium is “Potasinijun” instead of “Potakinijun” like I might expect. As Moscovium does have a k in “Mokopijun”. So I’m surprised /sk/ goes to /k/, while /kt/ became /s/.
So overall, a lot more “s” being used than I would expected from your phonemic inventory I came to learn from the video. Could you go over a few reasons you used “s” over mainly “t” (and sometimes “k”) in the examples provided?
Sorry for how long this is, but I hope it is at least good to know that someone has spent a long time analysing this video because they thought it was really cool 🙂
first off, im glad you had fun analyzing the examples in this video!
its interesting how much you were able to take from a video that just lists proper nouns
for this song, I adapted names from a list made by someone going by "jan Maku", so while I dont have exact reasoning for all the names, I can explain why names are usually transliterated in the way they are here
-you are correct to notice that there are only voiceless plosives and fricatives, those being /p t k s/
-there are no rhotics, so r is usually replaced by l (if coming from a trill or tapped r), w (if coming from the english approximant r), or sometimes k (if coming from a french or german uvular r)
-you are correct to see the syllable structure is very simplistic, as it is (C)V(n), with a ban on consecutive vowels or nasals
-for Wolfram -> Opan, something like "Wopan" would have made more sense, but, the syllables "wu" and "wo" are banned, due to the semivowels being too close to the vowels themselves, so the W was dropped
there arent any consonant clusters (besides involving n at the end of syllables), so out of Olan (from the l, or r) and Opan (from the f), Opan was chosen
-for Titanium -> Sitanijun, the syllable "ti" is another one of the banned syllables, since because of palatalization, "ti" tends to shift to si or shi in natural languages, so in transliterations, "ti" is variously converted to "si" (to keep the vowel), or "te" (to keep the t), with both of these strategies being in free variation
(the other banned syllable is "ji", for the same reason as "wu" and "wo")
-since n is the only consonant that can end a syllable, "Kopa" is the closest name for Cobalt without adding a third syllable
-for Rubidium -> Lupisijun, for the same reason as Titanium, the "ti" (devoiced from the "di") was converted to "si", but there really isnt any reason why it couldnt be "Lupitejun" instead
I prefer changing "ti" to "si", instead of to "te", since the vowel distinction seems important to me, but its up to personal preference
-for Protactinium -> Potasinijun, since most consonant clusters cannot occur, it is usually the second consonant in a cluster that is kept (in Protactinium's case, the t is also at the start of the name's stressed syllable, so it can be seen as having more significance for recognizability than the k)
in this example, /kti/ was changed to "ti" (keeping the t, instead of the k), and then it was changed to "si" to avoid the banned syllable "ti"
-overall, s is the only fricative, and "ti" is often converted to "si", so that probably explains why it occurs so often
no problem with the long comment! its very interesting to see someone's thought process in understanding a language they havent heard of before
if youd like to learn more about it, there is information and resources on tokipona.org
I hope you have fun! o pona!
sitelen tawa li pona
Well done!
19 and 31 are the same, i suggest Potasijun for 19
The last few sound like someone speaking english with a burnt mouth
100 DIGITS OF PI IN TOKI PONA WILL BE HARD HEHEHE
ale li kiwen anu kon. taso, telo Pomin en telo Itakun a! nasin ni li lon a! (taso li ijo pi "ken la...")
musi!
Ni mi olin ni pi kalama pona,
Ni pali mi jo mute tawa toki insa pi toki pona
sina pona!
@@kilipotato9898 a pona
ni li pona tawa mi!
mi lukin en kute e ni la mi pilin musi, mi pilin epiku. mi wile sona, taso mi sona ala.
pona a!
Potassium and Gallium are the same
ah, you're right... I didn't notice that
unpa ala?
Seme?
Nop, sex is not an element, you are talking about biology
pons suli a
mi wile moku e kiwen
o moku pona e kiwen
kiwen seme
a a a ni li musi a! pali pona mute
ni li pona mute a
seme la ni?
mi pakala. sina wile e sona seme?
@@kilipotato9898 i was just saying “how?” 🙄
ah, I see
@@Dolph1nVRmy bad but that’s kinda rude
pona mute mute🙂
Here is the english comment you're looking for
Nice
ni li taso jan toki Inli
kokosila
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jan pi toki Inli a‼