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It pretty easy to dominate the Mediterranean as Tunis due to its powerful navy and you can use the strait of Gibraltar to fight favourable wars against iberians
when I play as Tunis: Castile along with Portugal and Aragon declare on me. when I don't play as Tunis: Castile gets owned by Morocco, Granada and Aragon
Huh, I played Tunis once and I managed to get Castile and Ottomans allied to me. Together, we steamroll through Aragon on both Spain and Italy. Technically, “we” is an exaggeration as I just take Sicily with my troops, win the occasional naval battles, and let the Ottomans and Castilians do the heavy lifting. Fought Aragon and Genoa on that war, and managed to get both Corsica and Sardinia out of the peace deal while giving some land to Ottomans and Castile.
Wouldn’t it be better to just full annex Air and Yao then release them as vassals? You wouldn’t have to pay diplo points and your relations with them would rest so they are not as rebellious.
Im sad that its impossible form into carthage when you even can form rome :/ I would love to play barber nations more often if that would be an option.
@@tommanners1116 Would be kind of cool if it had similar forming conditions to something like Lanfang, like requiring Tunis to have Syrian culture or something like that.
@@simonandsimbagaming Yeah, but Carthage was not syrian, it was phenician ^^' And the phenician culture disappeared around the Ist century, because they were assimilated by Greeks and Romans.
@@krankarvolund7771 I'm well aware, but barring the devs adding a long dead culture like the Phoenicians, Syrian is the closest we'll get. I guess they could have it as a lost culture like Roman, and have you switch to it after formation.
There is a way to beat Castille early on as Morocco/Tunis- improve relations with Granada to 100, wait till Castile attacks them (most likely on her own), then enforce peace to join the war and crush them on Granada's mountain forts. Just remember to make all Castilian provinces provinces of interest. It also helps that while at war with Castille, you can attack their allies(i.e. Portugal) in a separate war.
Why didnt u take the capital of tlemcen? Its such a waste of time to siege every time a lvl 3 fort. Or was there a deeper plan behind it. Also its a trade center, so u would hurt their economy quite significant.
Tried this guide, but immediately after I declared on Tlem, Morocco also declared. Meanwhile, Tlem would only send their armies to fight mine, and Morocco had infinitely better siege luck than I did. They got over half of Tlem and I was forced to take the scraps. Then portugal invaded Morocco and while I was able to get some of the Tlem provinces back while that was happening, Portugal managed to take the entire Strait as well as every province you listed as being important. Then, Castille allied with Portugal and France and managed to get both powers to agree to invade me. Despite the fact that the Ottomans joined on my side, they were in a war with Venice (They were trying to conquer Albania, which Venice had guaranteed) and refused to help me even though they had over 40k troops idle and one stack sieging down Venice's last fort. So I was left to fight 90k troops with my 20k and, despite using scorched earth to slow them down for around a 9 year long war, the Ottomans refused to help until literally ever province I owned had been captured. At which point, the Ottomans walked 20k troops onto a mountain fort, let themselves get stack-wiped by 40k french and castillian troops, and then immediately white-peaced. I'm fucking salty. EDIT: Worth noting, this happened in 1460. I'd just started expansion into Air like the campaign suggested, but was taking a breather to secure my border in case Portugal attacked. I guess didn't expect the Spanish inquisition.
The mission tree also gives 2 nice permanent bonuses (2.5% discipline and 10% heavy ship combat ability). There's also the permanent bonus of 20% global tariffs if you care about that. Tunis has no permanent modifier/bonus in their mission tree
I wish Muslim countries in EU4 could form personal unions.I don't play non-Christian countries because they can't form personal unions. There's no greater thrill for me in EU4 than when I get that pop-up message: "A personal union!" It's the lazy man's way of conquest and I'm addicted to PUs.
Muslim countries in EU4 can in fact get personal unions, only the junior partner needs to be Christian, event though it is extremely rare it can happen, like The Ottomans PUing Aq Qoyunlu because they flipped to Coptic!
Historically they didn’t really happen outside of Christian nations. The closest there was with Muslims was that apparently if a worse case scenario happened with the Ottoman royal family dies off, the Kahnate of Crimea would take his place. But that never happened, so it was just a on paper thing.
For once you make a guide on the nation I'm actually currently playing! Would have mentioned just how easy it can be to declare on Genoa post shadow kingdom as they never seem to have good allies. That can lead to very easy foot holds in Italy (and the eastern Mediterranean and black sea if you are so inclined)
Kinda tried to recreate what you did here in an MP game, in my war against Tlemcen, I got a comet sighted, my ruler died, and then my regent got killed and replaced with a new one, leaving me with -3 stability and a looming peasants war lmfao
i hate the fact that some trade nodes are utter useless to collect on. so you have to move your trade port to somewhere else instead of ur big empire's capital. it destroys the immersion for me idk
I don’t think so, like you said it says as Tunis, so you do need to be them. It would say “starting as” if the achievement allowed you to form other nations
A vassal is better since they provide you with various benefits along with their army, a PU just helps you with their army, but you don’t get any money, force limit or trade power from them
@@TheRedHawk However, you can much more easily get a PU on a large nation than vassalize them, and they often have lower liberty desire than vassals, making them a way to gain absurd amounts of development without much AE and saving Admin. You can also potentially integrate them for free, especially if you're playing a PU monster like Austria.
Love the guide, Red Hawk. I sidetracked and took all of Tlemcen hehe. Is that bad though? I'll be behind on Admin slightly but other than that, I'm doing okay. Just having economic shortage.
Alright so question could you also form the Andulsia nation? One you can form as Morocco or Grenada I want to know if it's Tunisia capable too Also is this guide able to be followed by non-dlc people?
"even the Mamluks don't care that we did this" Cause Maghrebi and Levantine are two separate culture groups and the only common thing you have is a border and being Sunni
This is not exactly the perfect start with Tunis. The correct way is to vassalize Touggurt or Djerid in the first war with Tlemcen then feed it all the terrible desert provinces beside Fezzan. I don't remember the exact perfect sequence and it is somewhat RNG dependent but you can get much more from the get-go.
What is the DLC to get these missions? I watched your walkthroughs and they are amazing but the only downside was that I don't have any DLC's and couldn't get the same bonuses haha. I am also open for recommendations for DLC's so if you know any must-have DLC's please comment :D
@@123nody Golden Century DLC for Iberian and North African Missions. IMO the only reason to get Emperor over Art of War is if you only play in France, HRE or Italy, otherwise the features of Art of War are better.
Only critique I’d give is at game start, you want to make the fleet you use to raid coasts as large as possible The way raid coasts works, you need a larger fleet to be able to raid provinces with higher development, or that have a fort protecting them(I forget which of these is the case, but one of them definitely is) If you combine up your entire fleet to raid, you can get significantly more money and sailors from raiding coasts
@@TheRedHawk I looked, its not up yet, but dont hurry friend :D I was really looking forward to this always had bad luck with Tunis ^^ Did you consider uploading saves from your other 1.31 guides?
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What is the next nation that I should do a guide about? Leave a comment here and join The Discord to chat with me and get the save-game if you're a RUclips Member: discord.gg/ksDjjUhKHd
Mamluks
I haven't watched the full video yet but a native American nation would be interesting
Lithuania please!
One of the Indian nations, like Vijayanagar or Bahmanis for example.
Silesia back to Piast guide
It pretty easy to dominate the Mediterranean as Tunis due to its powerful navy and you can use the strait of Gibraltar to fight favourable wars against iberians
a Granada into Al-Andalus would be a great guide
I'll definitely do a Granada guide!
when I play as Tunis: Castile along with Portugal and Aragon declare on me.
when I don't play as Tunis: Castile gets owned by Morocco, Granada and Aragon
Lmao
AI is designed to target you
Huh, I played Tunis once and I managed to get Castile and Ottomans allied to me. Together, we steamroll through Aragon on both Spain and Italy. Technically, “we” is an exaggeration as I just take Sicily with my troops, win the occasional naval battles, and let the Ottomans and Castilians do the heavy lifting. Fought Aragon and Genoa on that war, and managed to get both Corsica and Sardinia out of the peace deal while giving some land to Ottomans and Castile.
In like 50years as Tunis I have all of North Africa, Egipt and army equal to ottomans. What's wrong with your campaign?
AI is designed to wreck the players whenever they can
Honestly I didn’t know you could form Andalusia as Tunis… guess I’ll have to try that out now
Definitely try it out!
Played relaxing Tunis To Andalusia game. Army was weak, but navy was insane. Bye Britain and Portugal
This looks like a fun campaign, excelent guide as always Hawk ;)
Thanks Qwinn!
Poor tlemcen. The first victim to any morocco, tunis, granada, and to some extend aragon campaign. Tlemcen feels like the punching bag of the maghreb
It still is to this day unfortunately.
Wouldn’t it be better to just full annex Air and Yao then release them as vassals? You wouldn’t have to pay diplo points and your relations with them would rest so they are not as rebellious.
This is actually a good point, the only downside would be more AE, but you could definitely do this!
@@TheRedHawk pretty sure u wouldnt care about that ae too much because u havent discovered all the nations in that area yet
Also, since they can't see your capital at the start of the game, you could also forget the AE for awhile
Just want to say that I am enjoying your guides.
Thank you I appreciate it!
This video was published a DAY after I got the achievement "sons of carthage" and bc of that ironic twist of fate I will subscribe.
Lol, thanks for the sub
Great guide. I have never played as Tunis and it looks like a lot of fun. It will be my next campaign.
Have fun!
Im sad that its impossible form into carthage when you even can form rome :/ I would love to play barber nations more often if that would be an option.
To be fair the Carthiginians weren't really related to modern (or eu4 era) North African cultures, so it kinda makes sense. Still a shame
@@tommanners1116 Would be kind of cool if it had similar forming conditions to something like Lanfang, like requiring Tunis to have Syrian culture or something like that.
@@simonandsimbagaming Yeah, but Carthage was not syrian, it was phenician ^^'
And the phenician culture disappeared around the Ist century, because they were assimilated by Greeks and Romans.
@@krankarvolund7771 I'm well aware, but barring the devs adding a long dead culture like the Phoenicians, Syrian is the closest we'll get. I guess they could have it as a lost culture like Roman, and have you switch to it after formation.
Tunis is not a barber nation tho...
Thanks for the guide , I love playing African nations and have never tried Tunis but gonna reinstall and work with this guide
Glad to see this channel slowly but surely growing
Red hawk ♥️ playing my favorite nation.
Awesome job on Fire and Sword! Love the mod!
A grenada or scotland guide would be great!
Great video! Thnks for it. :D
Glad you liked it!
Remember to do patronage of the arts after u have disinherited your heir so you get 25 prestige instead
Grest stuff! TY
20:59 ottomans allied with hungary.
Me seeing this: Wait, that's illegal
lol
3:40 A M O G U S
13:00 why? Even if you wanted them as a subject just full annex and release.
Your profile picture is way to fitting
There is a way to beat Castille early on as Morocco/Tunis- improve relations with Granada to 100, wait till Castile attacks them (most likely on her own), then enforce peace to join the war and crush them on Granada's mountain forts. Just remember to make all Castilian provinces provinces of interest.
It also helps that while at war with Castille, you can attack their allies(i.e. Portugal) in a separate war.
Why didnt u take the capital of tlemcen? Its such a waste of time to siege every time a lvl 3 fort. Or was there a deeper plan behind it. Also its a trade center, so u would hurt their economy quite significant.
I find many people seriously underestimate how much time and manpower taking level 3 forts asap saves you in the second war.
I just left Tlemcen as OPM in the middle of Sahara just after first war 5 years after annexing Berber states so why fight more than once?
Tried this guide, but immediately after I declared on Tlem, Morocco also declared. Meanwhile, Tlem would only send their armies to fight mine, and Morocco had infinitely better siege luck than I did. They got over half of Tlem and I was forced to take the scraps. Then portugal invaded Morocco and while I was able to get some of the Tlem provinces back while that was happening, Portugal managed to take the entire Strait as well as every province you listed as being important. Then, Castille allied with Portugal and France and managed to get both powers to agree to invade me. Despite the fact that the Ottomans joined on my side, they were in a war with Venice (They were trying to conquer Albania, which Venice had guaranteed) and refused to help me even though they had over 40k troops idle and one stack sieging down Venice's last fort. So I was left to fight 90k troops with my 20k and, despite using scorched earth to slow them down for around a 9 year long war, the Ottomans refused to help until literally ever province I owned had been captured. At which point, the Ottomans walked 20k troops onto a mountain fort, let themselves get stack-wiped by 40k french and castillian troops, and then immediately white-peaced.
I'm fucking salty.
EDIT: Worth noting, this happened in 1460. I'd just started expansion into Air like the campaign suggested, but was taking a breather to secure my border in case Portugal attacked. I guess didn't expect the Spanish inquisition.
O always thought that morroco is the strongest, the mountain fort and the stupid AI makes conquering Iberia so easy...
Morocco could be stronger, I’ll do a guide for them too!
I always preferred Morocco, they have more claims in central Africa and you can take land for yourself. To keep north safe you need only the fleet.
@Ronen Salathe they suffer from imposter syndrome
The mission tree also gives 2 nice permanent bonuses (2.5% discipline and 10% heavy ship combat ability). There's also the permanent bonus of 20% global tariffs if you care about that.
Tunis has no permanent modifier/bonus in their mission tree
I don't see why you would use the insane grenadan mission tree to get iberia quicker.
I wish Muslim countries in EU4 could form personal unions.I don't play non-Christian countries because they can't form personal unions. There's no greater thrill for me in EU4 than when I get that pop-up message: "A personal union!" It's the lazy man's way of conquest and I'm addicted to PUs.
Muslim countries in EU4 can in fact get personal unions, only the junior partner needs to be Christian, event though it is extremely rare it can happen, like The Ottomans PUing Aq Qoyunlu because they flipped to Coptic!
That's a shame since there's tons of interesting mechanics to play outside of Europe like the mandate of heaven or Japanese shogun and much more.
I actually had a game were the ai ottomans got a PU over muscovy lol. They got even more powerful than normal
ok Austria
Historically they didn’t really happen outside of Christian nations. The closest there was with Muslims was that apparently if a worse case scenario happened with the Ottoman royal family dies off, the Kahnate of Crimea would take his place. But that never happened, so it was just a on paper thing.
I'd like to see a guide on Gujarat. They have some interesting missions for expanding into Arabia and Africa.
For once you make a guide on the nation I'm actually currently playing! Would have mentioned just how easy it can be to declare on Genoa post shadow kingdom as they never seem to have good allies. That can lead to very easy foot holds in Italy (and the eastern Mediterranean and black sea if you are so inclined)
Lol at Venice taking Athens. Rarely see that
Iberian nations seeing the thumbnail:” wait isn’t ai Andalus the nation we had to fight during the reconquista?”
I bet Laith appreciates this title.
Lol
Kinda tried to recreate what you did here in an MP game, in my war against Tlemcen, I got a comet sighted, my ruler died, and then my regent got killed and replaced with a new one, leaving me with -3 stability and a looming peasants war lmfao
yessir!
Please make a guide on Vijayanagar!!
Will do!
Could have vassalized Fezzan to get that extra -10% dev cost :)
True!
@Chokri Mhiri their religious school gives you -10% dev cost :)
@Chokri Mhiri well you wanna take tunis land. But you don't really care about 3dev desert prov that fezzan has
Will you ever do let's plays soon or mainly guides
I don’t really do letsplays, my main series right now are guides, mod showcases and “what if” scenarios
You say you always want to have two vassals, why is this? You only need one to keep strong dutchies, so I’m curious as to the reason.
Well it was more of a general statement based on the fact that we will usually have free diplo slots, so why not fill them up with vassals
Why do you bother vassalising Touggourt, rather than annexing? Is it just so you can save admin points for tech?
I had a CB to vassalize them from the estates, otherwise I would have annexed them
i hate the fact that some trade nodes are utter useless to collect on. so you have to move your trade port to somewhere else instead of ur big empire's capital. it destroys the immersion for me idk
the knights guide
Can i get sons of carthage when i already formed al andalus? Because the achievement says "as tunis"
I don’t think so, like you said it says as Tunis, so you do need to be them. It would say “starting as” if the achievement allowed you to form other nations
ufff, seems like I have seen the exact guide somewhere 🤨🧐.
I quite like the Mali area/west Africa, but I never play in North Africa. What a mistake. Tunis seems extremely fun
Could you please tell me
How different is Pu and Vassal what is better and what make them better
Asking this because I played as Dutch republic in MP and pu Britain and then I forgot that I had and election one month after the war.....
A vassal is better since they provide you with various benefits along with their army, a PU just helps you with their army, but you don’t get any money, force limit or trade power from them
@@TheRedHawk However, you can much more easily get a PU on a large nation than vassalize them, and they often have lower liberty desire than vassals, making them a way to gain absurd amounts of development without much AE and saving Admin. You can also potentially integrate them for free, especially if you're playing a PU monster like Austria.
Thank you both
You can also diplo annex vassals in just ten years, for personal unions it takes 50 years to be able to diplo annex them
No doubt Tunis is the best North African nation. It's among my favorite nations to play as.
Love the guide, Red Hawk. I sidetracked and took all of Tlemcen hehe. Is that bad though? I'll be behind on Admin slightly but other than that, I'm doing okay. Just having economic shortage.
Alright so question could you also form the Andulsia nation? One you can form as Morocco or Grenada I want to know if it's Tunisia capable too
Also is this guide able to be followed by non-dlc people?
Yes you can form Andalusia as Tunis, I don't know if this guide can be followed without DLCs, maybe to some extent, I do use all DLCs in my videos
@@TheRedHawk since when do you play the game? Or when did you decide to buy all DLC's ? It's quite an investment
Why not exploration? With the government type colonies are OP
-Tu (n) is first
+Yes, i am.
This one sounded better in my mind
Lmao
I once form Italy as Culture swap Tunis just out of curiosity
Tunis is my favourite Nation. But I always get decked on by the Iberians. It's depressing.
"even the Mamluks don't care that we did this"
Cause Maghrebi and Levantine are two separate culture groups and the only common thing you have is a border and being Sunni
This is not exactly the perfect start with Tunis. The correct way is to vassalize Touggurt or Djerid in the first war with Tlemcen then feed it all the terrible desert provinces beside Fezzan. I don't remember the exact perfect sequence and it is somewhat RNG dependent but you can get much more from the get-go.
Algeria In the Corner: they don’t know I will becom a controlling nation in the medeteranian
What is the DLC to get these missions? I watched your walkthroughs and they are amazing but the only downside was that I don't have any DLC's and couldn't get the same bonuses haha. I am also open for recommendations for DLC's so if you know any must-have DLC's please comment :D
I have all DLCs so I wouldn't know which one gives which missions, you can check out the EU4 wiki though it explains everything really well!
@@TheRedHawk wow xD Thank you for the reply. Can you at least tell me should I buy Art of War or the Emperor DLC? Thank you so much
@@123nody Golden Century DLC for Iberian and North African Missions. IMO the only reason to get Emperor over Art of War is if you only play in France, HRE or Italy, otherwise the features of Art of War are better.
@@petaristvan Thank you man. Very much appreciated
Only critique I’d give is at game start, you want to make the fleet you use to raid coasts as large as possible
The way raid coasts works, you need a larger fleet to be able to raid provinces with higher development, or that have a fort protecting them(I forget which of these is the case, but one of them definitely is)
If you combine up your entire fleet to raid, you can get significantly more money and sailors from raiding coasts
Where savegame? pls gib :)
Thanks for reminding me, should be up now!
@@TheRedHawk I looked, its not up yet, but dont hurry friend :D I was really looking forward to this always had bad luck with Tunis ^^ Did you consider uploading saves from your other 1.31 guides?
Please 1.34 update
sorry mate i can't watch you today i need sleep
Good night lol
@@TheRedHawk I'm back
wholesome ending
@@StLouis-yg8jp lol
mamluks are definitelly better
Yeah but I would consider them in a different group of nations
Croatia guide
The best north african nation is SUS
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Delete that fort on Djerba. It makes 0 sense.
Morocco best maghreb nation get your facts straight.