Ange said in the press conference they are focussing on recovery with a light training session. This has more to do with a lack of squad depth due to the lack of recruitment being compounded by a game every three or so days.
So his training at Brisbane, Yokahama, and Celtic which brought high intensity attacking football and ,ultimately, success is too tough for the 'elite' Premier League players.... !!??
Did you forget that time the Scottish FA delayed an old firm game because Ange had an injury crisis, as the game up here is corrupt? Spurs thought they were getting a good managed based on his padded record in Scotland.
How can pundits be so uniformed on the issues when it is their job to know these things. Ange and several players have come out in interviews recently and said that they're not even training hard, as they're just doing recovery sessions. The problem is when you have a few injuries and the same players have to play every few games, you then begin to ge more injuries due to fatigue, so it's a downward spiral. If they got 2/3 players in the window then this would allow some rotation of the remaining players, which then leads to fewer injuries. This is not rocket science.
As a NUFC fan I can sympathise with Spurs because we had the same situation when we played in the CL season. You need a squad to compete in the PL and in the European competitions.
Spurs fan here and I thank you you for your sympathy. But trust me my friend you guys were in a different position to us. You guys had issues with FFP and you had a player out on a ban. So you couldn’t upgrade your squad, as your hands were tied. We, on the other hand have a chairman worse than Mike Ashley, who refuses to put his hand in his pocket and properly back any of our managers. Don’t feel sorry for us. We’ve totally brought this on ourselves. Or should I say, levy us set us back no end.
@@AK47_. Do you honestly think any top player with ambition would choose Tottenham over the other top clubs in the league even if Tottenham is willing to pay more? You are currently shopping at your level no matter how much money the chairman provides you still won't be able to sign the top talents.
Didn’t last season wreck them over injuries too? As far as I know Tottenham has been wrecked with injuries over 2 seasons. The interesting question is did Ange have similar injuries at his other clubs? Liverpool did indeed have injuries but they also had a bigger squad and owners that will spend. Deeny opinions are as great as his playing career and that was unmemorable
I read somewhere he actually admitted he had problems with his training methods causing injuries at other clubs. If there is any truth in this I find it mind boggling .
Most attacking coaches will have some issues at some point as attacking involves pressing. It happened to Poch, Klopp, Emery and Howe. The main issue is Tottenham have been tight on the purse springs and have not given him the depth he needs. The fans were also adamant they wanted to compete in all competitions, so Ange has done his best to do that. It will get better as the players bodies become more robust and get used to the workload needed. Will also get better if Tottenham can add to their playing depth and have a stronger bench. The people whinging about it both 1) wanted attacking football and for Tottenham to compete in the cups, 2) are not thinking about the full context of what’s happening. They want the benefits but aren’t happy with the drawbacks.
It can’t be pure coincidence. Spurs need to investigate why they’ve suffered so many muscle injuries. MVDV might be fast but he’s no good when he’s constantly injured
We don’t have the depth in our playing squad to play in all competitions. The fans desperately wanted to go for it in the cups. So Ange has done his best to do that. The fans also wanted attacking football. Ange plays attacking football, but this can also lead to some more injuries as it involves pressing. It’s not just Ange. It has happened to Pochettino, Klopp, Emery and Howe before. Injuries tend to be compounded because when you get some injuries it puts additional strain on the remaining players. The only things that can be done is to bring in some new players to help provide cover and energy. Or we are going to have to just live with it. It will be temporary and it will end up getting better. The players bodies will become more robust as they get used to the workload. I certainly wouldn’t recommend sacking Ange. He’s just trying to do his job with the resources he has. If we had more depth in the playing squad the team would be able to cope with it better.
That argument is a bit flawed because only a handful of teams actually play more than the average number of games if they progress in cup competitions. Everyone plays the standard 38 league game and maybe 5 cup games that's it for most players. So are they going to start making concessions to only teams that progress further in cup competitions?? Where's the fairness in that??
Do you seriously think a guy with his experience and qualifications , world class training ground, doctors and probably 20 or 30 Pro Licence Coaches does not know how to set training sessions?????
Deeney talking like he knows what he's talking about. Maybe if he worked a bit harder the peak of his career would have been more than playing for watford
You are right. The training sessions at the moment are ballwork sessions or recovery sessions. The players are playing every 3 days. If we look at the injuries too. Very few were on the training ground. Only Solanke and I think one more. Solanke was practicing goal kicking too. Wasn’t running at the time.
Top clubs who play in Europe and do well in two national cups, and have players who play for their country needs bigger squads. Ange is 100% correct. This has been apparent for a couple of years now.
The undermining of Ange as a manager by the English media is a disgrace. They all repeat the same nothing talking points. Guy has coached for 25 years won trophies in multiple countries, at a World Cup and an international trophy in Asia. Unbelievable.
Talking on injuries when you are not in the squad is lame from people. It’s okay having 10 injuries but spurs having key players out, majority of the back 4 injured.
Ange and several players have all said that at the moment they’re just playing and recovering. Solanke’s injury was the result of him staying AFTER training to work on finishing. The reporting is atrocious.
I’m with Troy 100% i think some of these players are crying off with so called injury plus it’s compounded by a manager who seems happy to wallow in the excuses that injuries provide, we have players on loan who he won’t recall, it’s pathetic, HE’s PATHETIC
Ange is stubborn and refuses to learn from past issues. In 2021 the Scottish press featured articles about the number of muscle especially hamstring injuries Celtic players were suffering from. His training hasn’t changed and now Spurs players are suffering in the same way
Yes is this the big question, is Ange unlucky or are his training methods and style of play causing these injuries. Maybe the pace of the Premier League is too much for play the way he wants to play. I guess we'll find out in the coming weeks.
They aren’t doing hard fitness training at the moment, because they play every 3 days. If you look at the injuries they are getting there are very few from training. Am pretty sure it was just Solanke and one other injury. Solanke got injured practicing kicking at goal. It’s not the training. It’s the squad depth. We currently only have the first 11. No rotation.
When the same players are having 3 games a week and having to run on empty its inevitable injuries will occur. Its when you are tired and slow is when you get crocked.
He is not asking for sympathy??? He is just stating facts. 11 players are out. They are not being trained too hard. A game every 3 days means they are literally only doing recovery.
Ange has found his perfect club. His training, style of play just brings injuries but he’s at a club with no ambition and always make up excuses just like him so just like 2 peas in a pod
Is Troy really comparing Liverpool to Tottenham when spurs have just emptied the team of deadwood since 2019 and have just started a rebuild? Meeting of the minds here…
Training too hard? When tf does he think they’re training with the squad the way it is? They’re playing every 3/4 days. I swear TalkSport is just built around rage bait.
This nonsense Troy chatting 💩💩💩 players 3 games a week they not training at all only doing recovery. None of the players are ducking out. There might be issue with medical department as Ange has talked about it. Spurs had 11 first team players are fit so not normal. 3 of starting back 3 injured
You guys are out of touch. Today there are: - more games - games are faster pace -players are stronger quicker and fitter -games are longer ie 10min extra time is not uncommon -recovery is less with all the commercial obligations -frequency of games is greater All these piss head old timers wouldn’t last 1/4 of a season. The old timers are weak so don’t kid yourselves.
Injuries are preventable. Only a person with zero conviction would blame them. Which are many people in football. All professional sport should be like military boot camp. If you don't get ahead, you get *behind* and that is why you need to take care of your bodies so that you're available for selection and earn your keep deservedly.
I’m with Troy 100% i think some of these players are crying off with so called injury plus it’s compounded by a manager who seems happy to wallow in the excuses that injuries provide, we have players on loan who he won’t recall, it’s pathetic, HE’s PATHETIC
Ange said in the press conference they are focussing on recovery with a light training session. This has more to do with a lack of squad depth due to the lack of recruitment being compounded by a game every three or so days.
So his training at Brisbane, Yokahama, and Celtic which brought high intensity attacking football and ,ultimately, success is too tough for the 'elite' Premier League players.... !!??
Maybe it wasn’t his training that brought high intensity football, rather having better players than the rest of the league
Yes, he has fucked it mate. Duty of care out the window. Shameful behaviour
I’m those leagues the opposition were piss poor compared to the premier league
Another Ange fan who knows nothing about football. Australia, Japan and Scotland don't hold a candle to the English Premier League.
Did you forget that time the Scottish FA delayed an old firm game because Ange had an injury crisis, as the game up here is corrupt?
Spurs thought they were getting a good managed based on his padded record in Scotland.
How can pundits be so uniformed on the issues when it is their job to know these things. Ange and several players have come out in interviews recently and said that they're not even training hard, as they're just doing recovery sessions. The problem is when you have a few injuries and the same players have to play every few games, you then begin to ge more injuries due to fatigue, so it's a downward spiral. If they got 2/3 players in the window then this would allow some rotation of the remaining players, which then leads to fewer injuries. This is not rocket science.
As a NUFC fan I can sympathise with Spurs because we had the same situation when we played in the CL season. You need a squad to compete in the PL and in the European competitions.
Spurs fan here and I thank you you for your sympathy. But trust me my friend you guys were in a different position to us. You guys had issues with FFP and you had a player out on a ban. So you couldn’t upgrade your squad, as your hands were tied. We, on the other hand have a chairman worse than Mike Ashley, who refuses to put his hand in his pocket and properly back any of our managers. Don’t feel sorry for us. We’ve totally brought this on ourselves. Or should I say, levy us set us back no end.
@@AK47_. Do you honestly think any top player with ambition would choose Tottenham over the other top clubs in the league even if Tottenham is willing to pay more? You are currently shopping at your level no matter how much money the chairman provides you still won't be able to sign the top talents.
Didn’t last season wreck them over injuries too? As far as I know Tottenham has been wrecked with injuries over 2 seasons. The interesting question is did Ange have similar injuries at his other clubs? Liverpool did indeed have injuries but they also had a bigger squad and owners that will spend. Deeny opinions are as great as his playing career and that was unmemorable
Ange had the exact same issue at Celtic, but he's no longer in a farmer's league so he's getting exposed. The sooner he's gone the better.
He got it in Scotland but the FA moved games to help them out.
Ceptic arent allowed to lose in SNP Scotland.
I read somewhere he actually admitted he had problems with his training methods causing injuries at other clubs. If there is any truth in this I find it mind boggling .
Most attacking coaches will have some issues at some point as attacking involves pressing.
It happened to Poch, Klopp, Emery and Howe.
The main issue is Tottenham have been tight on the purse springs and have not given him the depth he needs.
The fans were also adamant they wanted to compete in all competitions, so Ange has done his best to do that.
It will get better as the players bodies become more robust and get used to the workload needed.
Will also get better if Tottenham can add to their playing depth and have a stronger bench.
The people whinging about it both 1) wanted attacking football and for Tottenham to compete in the cups, 2) are not thinking about the full context of what’s happening.
They want the benefits but aren’t happy with the drawbacks.
Troy Deeney talking about over training is hysterical
It can’t be pure coincidence. Spurs need to investigate why they’ve suffered so many muscle injuries. MVDV might be fast but he’s no good when he’s constantly injured
We don’t have the depth in our playing squad to play in all competitions.
The fans desperately wanted to go for it in the cups. So Ange has done his best to do that.
The fans also wanted attacking football. Ange plays attacking football, but this can also lead to some more injuries as it involves pressing.
It’s not just Ange. It has happened to Pochettino, Klopp, Emery and Howe before.
Injuries tend to be compounded because when you get some injuries it puts additional strain on the remaining players.
The only things that can be done is to bring in some new players to help provide cover and energy.
Or we are going to have to just live with it. It will be temporary and it will end up getting better.
The players bodies will become more robust as they get used to the workload.
I certainly wouldn’t recommend sacking Ange. He’s just trying to do his job with the resources he has.
If we had more depth in the playing squad the team would be able to cope with it better.
This has happened to a couple of teams every season now. There are too many games. You need a bigger squad to rotate.
That argument is a bit flawed because only a handful of teams actually play more than the average number of games if they progress in cup competitions. Everyone plays the standard 38 league game and maybe 5 cup games that's it for most players. So are they going to start making concessions to only teams that progress further in cup competitions?? Where's the fairness in that??
Do you seriously think a guy with his experience and qualifications , world class training ground, doctors and probably 20 or 30 Pro Licence Coaches does not know how to set training sessions?????
Deeney talking like he knows what he's talking about. Maybe if he worked a bit harder the peak of his career would have been more than playing for watford
You are right. The training sessions at the moment are ballwork sessions or recovery sessions. The players are playing every 3 days.
If we look at the injuries too. Very few were on the training ground.
Only Solanke and I think one more. Solanke was practicing goal kicking too. Wasn’t running at the time.
I didn’t know Troy Deeney attended Spurs training sessions? 😂😂😂 what a clown
Poch was famous for his rigorous sessions and I don’t recall too many people questioning him when they had injuries.
Are you watching the training sessions? Ali Gold watches them and says repeatedly that they are NOT training hard.
Each time i hear Troy Deeney's voice these days I'm like "this guy again".
Top clubs who play in Europe and do well in two national cups, and have players who play for their country needs bigger squads. Ange is 100% correct. This has been apparent for a couple of years now.
The undermining of Ange as a manager by the English media is a disgrace. They all repeat the same nothing talking points. Guy has coached for 25 years won trophies in multiple countries, at a World Cup and an international trophy in Asia. Unbelievable.
They're being too nice to him. He's out of his depth.
Talking on injuries when you are not in the squad is lame from people. It’s okay having 10 injuries but spurs having key players out, majority of the back 4 injured.
Ange and several players have all said that at the moment they’re just playing and recovering. Solanke’s injury was the result of him staying AFTER training to work on finishing. The reporting is atrocious.
Spurs need a good central defender asap with the injury criss even if it a loan
Maybe the squad never knew what hard training is and need it ingrained in them that success does not come without doing the hard yards first.
How come Liverpool only have one long- term injury then? Hes talking utter tripe
1:54 Seventh Hamstring injury in a Season and a half..? No, that is nonsense.
I’m with Troy 100% i think some of these players are crying off with so called injury plus it’s compounded by a manager who seems happy to wallow in the excuses that injuries provide, we have players on loan who he won’t recall, it’s pathetic, HE’s PATHETIC
So the manager is making decisions without the medical department ? Make that make sense
Ange is stubborn and refuses to learn from past issues. In 2021 the Scottish press featured articles about the number of muscle especially hamstring injuries Celtic players were suffering from. His training hasn’t changed and now Spurs players are suffering in the same way
Yes is this the big question, is Ange unlucky or are his training methods and style of play causing these injuries. Maybe the pace of the Premier League is too much for play the way he wants to play. I guess we'll find out in the coming weeks.
They aren’t doing hard fitness training at the moment, because they play every 3 days.
If you look at the injuries they are getting there are very few from training.
Am pretty sure it was just Solanke and one other injury.
Solanke got injured practicing kicking at goal.
It’s not the training. It’s the squad depth.
We currently only have the first 11. No rotation.
I played with an ankle like a balloon.
What an uneducated opinion-just listen to what’s being said about their training. They aren’t training hard, they are focusing on recovery
When the same players are having 3 games a week and having to run on empty its inevitable injuries will occur. Its when you are tired and slow is when you get crocked.
For players who get knocks perhaps they should wear adult shin pads with ankle protection attached
Deeney clearly hasn't been paying attention to comments from players like Porro! Deeney needs to do a bit more training before his radio stints!
Maybe a lot of these players were for sale because they were injury prone
He is not asking for sympathy??? He is just stating facts. 11 players are out. They are not being trained too hard. A game every 3 days means they are literally only doing recovery.
well something isn't right with the injuries
Anges own fault for playing his 2 injured CB against Chelsea and they lost to Chelsea anyway
Harden up lad lol damn
Ange has found his perfect club. His training, style of play just brings injuries but he’s at a club with no ambition and always make up excuses just like him so just like 2 peas in a pod
Is Troy really comparing Liverpool to Tottenham when spurs have just emptied the team of deadwood since 2019 and have just started a rebuild? Meeting of the minds here…
Micky Van der Ven has been brought back too early.
Training too hard? When tf does he think they’re training with the squad the way it is? They’re playing every 3/4 days.
I swear TalkSport is just built around rage bait.
Talksport really dumbing down on the analysis today... 🤷
Conte trained them much harder, maybe Pochettino did as well. Double sessions...
Bo ho professional athletes training to hard !
All of them are suffering from not having a spine
Oh boohoo, there are whole teams of sports scientists / nutritionists/ medical and its Ange fault? Grow up Wendy
This nonsense Troy chatting 💩💩💩 players 3 games a week they not training at all only doing recovery. None of the players are ducking out. There might be issue with medical department as Ange has talked about it. Spurs had 11 first team players are fit so not normal. 3 of starting back 3 injured
You guys are out of touch. Today there are:
- more games
- games are faster pace
-players are stronger quicker and fitter
-games are longer ie 10min extra time is not uncommon
-recovery is less with all the commercial obligations
-frequency of games is greater
All these piss head old timers wouldn’t last 1/4 of a season. The old timers are weak so don’t kid yourselves.
And that’s why Deeney never hit the highest levels.
He’s lazy !
Footballers train ?
Talksport is legit a joke.
itz not a hobby ...
Injuries are preventable. Only a person with zero conviction would blame them. Which are many people in football. All professional sport should be like military boot camp. If you don't get ahead, you get *behind* and that is why you need to take care of your bodies so that you're available for selection and earn your keep deservedly.
Troy spouting rubbish
The title of this clip should read - Is Ange a meat head ?
Ange is a Clown…🤣🤣🤣🤣
After this video, my boyfriend is convinced we can do our own comedy show. I think it's worth a shot👅
My boyfriend watched this video and now he thinks he's a handyman too. I'm gonna hide my tools✨
I’m with Troy 100% i think some of these players are crying off with so called injury plus it’s compounded by a manager who seems happy to wallow in the excuses that injuries provide, we have players on loan who he won’t recall, it’s pathetic, HE’s PATHETIC