Cadillac Lyriq | Grasping at Straws
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- We revisit the 2024 Cadillac Lyriq, the company's first attempt at a next-generation EV. While this SUV is designed to attract a younger buying demographic, it faces serious competition from Tesla, Hyundai, Lucid, BMW, and Mercedes. We discuss the good and bad, and who this is for.
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Index:
00:00 Interior and Exterior
3:23 Audio Testing the AKG, Something Went Wrong
5:09 Mechanical Impressions
7:38 Driving Impressions, We Good Enough is Not Enough
17:05 Final Thoughts 
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Thank you for dedicating a segment to the audio system.
This was one of the reasons I subscribed originally to your channel.
Please go back to doing this for every relevant car review.
Second this, one of the few channels that does an amazing job testing audio!
Yep this channel is how i found out about the horrific drop in sound quality vw made before i drove a mk7
Should check out DM Sound, they do audio reviews of most new cars, just not as technical as this
I feel like Mark brings it up when it's necessary. Audiophiles are a very small minority.
It's one of the most important things in a car that I'm might daily.
Perfect upgrade from my Buick Encore GX. With 500hp I'll never be late for my dialysis appointments again!
Only if your 401k retirement funds kicked it. Cuz the price is double
@@KEVIN88GT I'll never have to worry about money after my Truth Social stocks skyrocket!
Thanks! It took me a sec, but I got it. You cracked me up!
@@KEVIN88GTused Lyriq are in the $30's!
@@normt430 oh this is a used car discussion now?
Had my Lyriq for 6 months and LOVE IT! I get compliments daily from all ages. Anyone who rides in it wants one. AKG may not be Bose but sounds great to my ears, I guess I'm not that technical about my music. No issues 6 months in with several long-distance trips. Supercruise is great! The Lyriq hits the luxury sporty sweet spot for me!
Cope more, idk who would compliment you on such an ugly vehicle.
I am recently retired. The thought of Cadillac breaking new ground always scares me. But I am old enough to remember such gems as the V8 diesel, V8-6-4, Northstar, HT4100, etc. Stuff marketed at an inflated price that was not the standard of the world. On a side note I began work in civil engineering at a company that designed waste disposal systems. Septic tank abuse has been a thing for many decades.
Cadillac invented the cross-plane crank V8. That company has a ton of history.
Damn, I just got cold chills at the mention of Northstar.
I'm not retired yet. The thought of Cadillac, period, always scares me. GM is crap.
@@Mr21scott yet this vehicle is the best seller of it’s segment. Yea, *gm* and _Cadillac_ are such “crap” that people rather buy them over any other luxury brand their money could award them. 🙄
It has to be said, the commitment to the septic tank pumping company owner bit, is amazing! Seriously guys, your videos are up there with the best on RUclips. Sarcastic, funny, and informative.
He’s actually on point!
I did websites for a septic cistern manufacturing company once and the owner said “I got shit for blood, son.” 😅
But for them to spend so much time on product positioning as well as sound design is amazing.
It really wasn’t that funny, he actually seems a bit bitter that _Cadillac_ is doing so well in the EV space which is hilarious to watch. He’s basically pouting throughout the review as they both struggle to find faults because the vehicle is designed so well. Bald gentleman just can’t wrap his poor mind around the thought of a Cadillac Lyriq being the best seller in the EV segment. I wonder why that is lol. They’re _clearly_ and obviously *haters* of this vehicle and potentially the entire Cadillac brand.
@@G-Rated I’m 5 minutes into the review and it feels like the entire review is headed towards negative 😂
@@arnoldkintu6124 lol i know it ain’t just me, they always do this. It has that same sad whinny undertone “why would I want a Cadillac” as he pouts throughout the review as he struggles to find faults. He looks the exact same way in the reviews of the Corvette C8. They literally hate to see *gm* do well. It’s sort of satisfying to watch but it’s actually very sad.
@@G-Rated They want to spin a narrative that GM is so terrible, but the sales numbers don’t lie lol. I’ve been looking at EVs this year as my next car. Watched enough reviews of this one & the first gripe I’ve heard is the AC aluminum nobs 😂. IMO , if they work, they work, nobody is going to really just stare at them like that anyway. 🤷🏿♂️
100% agree w/ your assessment. My 70 yo dad LOVES his Lyriq. He wanted an isolation/relaxation cruiser w/ easy step in height and room for his golf clubs. He loves his Lyriq more than this prior lexus rx or 2020 bmw x5. The audio sux, but he doesn't care since he's hard of hearing. and for the low $50k he paid for a lux 2 after discounts and incentives, there's really no other better alternatives.
$50k is an amazing deal 👀
Ooooh, so that's it! You don't need a good audio system when your hearing is going!
@@good-tn9sr Maybe 25k is an amazing deal. 50k is still a ripoff for something that will be in the garbage in 7 years.
@@Jimster481or how $34k for one with a few thousand miles?
"I'm a successful businessman with 20 years in the septic tank market and I want a Cadillac. I just wish people took [the credit of their] septic tanks more seriously."
As always, an entertaining and informative review. Well done, and thank you.
I think he was wanting to diminish the value of the Cadillac brand with that comment, more so than offend any working men or women in the septic tank business. No one except someone who works in shit all day would want a shitty Cadillac. Very disturbing.
I just hope Cadillac sees this review, and stops sending disrespectful platforms like this their products. This is another ‘Out of Spec’ using their expertise to further their own bias with an anti-gm undertone. It’s crazy to me that more aren’t talking about it.
I laughed so hard at the "driving to the nursing home" line. Whats makes it even funnier is I don't think it was even a joke.
I was waiting for Jack to pull up to a nursing home. Jack: Mark, it's time.
That would’ve been epic!
Picture this: The end scene of them pulling into a nursing home and a nurse coming out to greet them
@@albertadams2095Two orderlies, a wheelchair, straightjacket, and a Hannibal Lecter Mask.
Yeah the ragtime music was a perfect touch!
"I'm a septic man... It's in my blood" had me rolling. That pause then genuine laughter is peak dad
Love this channel and I agree with the general sentiment that much of this class is just more of the same, but I don't think you guys are giving the Lyriq enough credit. Clearly it's doing something right given how well it is selling. Over 3000 Lyriqs sold last month, which is over a third of GM's EV sales, and around a quarter of Cadillac's *total* sales.
Not finding a vehicle's appeal doesn't mean it isn't out there. From what I've seen, the two biggest selling points for the Lyriq are the styling and the pricing. Some people hate how it looks, but a lot of people love it, and it's certainly something different from the sea of aerodynamic blobs that is the EV market. With all the incentives and rebates available, the Lyriq undercuts (and outsells) most of its competitors. The fast charging and Super Cruise also don't hurt.
The Lyriq isn't a fun to drive enthusiast car like the Blackwings, but it doesn't have to be. It does what it's supposed to do well, and is a pretty big step forward for GM and Cadillac that seems to be paying off based on sales and public image. If quality & interior continue to improve, Cadillac might genuinely have a shot at repairing their image and sales.
Agreed, this is a rather lazy takeaway from them
Agree with you 100 percent. I like this car, even with the edgy looks. This is a luxury car. I would never consider either of the black wing cars. They are performance cars. If I want performance I would buy Corvette or Porsche. This lyriq is the closest thing to a luxury car Cadillac has made in a long time. It's styling gets it noticed which is what is needed to build brand awareness and cache. These guys have a long memory with associating other gm products to tje lyriq but with Kia and Hyundai completely ignore all their other down market products. This Cadillac to me says sophistication
This is exactly why its sales trajectory this year has been very, very good. It is good at everything; not great at anything. That is the secret to hitting the fat part of the sales curve. Attractive, comfortable, reasonably priced, dealers everywhere, support everywhere.
No. 1 in luxury EV seller today!
I believe the AKG issue is the very aggressive active noise cancellation system. Nearly every reviewer has commented on how eerily quiet the Lyriq is underway, and it's because of the noise cancellation.
I've got the AKG system on a CT5-V Blackwing and found you have to push the volume to at least 45% to get the full dynamic spectrum (sound is a bit hollow at regular volumes) at which point the sound is quite good.
I believe the hole in the audio spectrum you captured is ANC over-performing. GM may need to provide an option to ratchet ANC down or off if they don't on the Lyriq.
Do they have speed sound? 'engine' noise?
Cadillac now more coherent than the Mercedes EQS ? Amazing.
Took Cadillac this long to become more coherent then one Mercedes model?
The EQS set the bar pretty low to begin with
@@iosgaming2824you’re trying way too hard. Mercedes has been trying to dethrone the Escalade for years with the GLS and can’t seem to do that either. I just love how people try to discredit Cadillac’s success like people want their vehicles by mistake or something 😂
@@G-RatedTrue. Also they make CT5-V Blackwing Manual. No modern Mercedes sedan can handle, feel, and be as fun to drive as the Cadillac. And with the new refreshed interior, no Benz can match how elegant the overall car is
@@G-Rated They've been selling the same as Escalade for years now, just look at the sales numbers. Both are pushing 30k units sold in the US year to year. Stop being a brain-dead fanboy and look at the numbers. They're both doing well and sell the same amounts to the same demographics.
The light shining through the split folding rear seat is driving me crazy.
I appreciate the time you guys took to go over the Lyriq, but honestly this is the best car I’ve ever owned. For comfort style and performance I couldn’t be happier. Many road trips and a pleasure to drive.
Test drove one yesterday, it ws 95" outside, seemed like the A/C could not keep up, what has been your experience??
@@kennytinker24 actually live in the southwest, gets really hot but car takes a bit to cool when leaving outside. I almost always remote start the ac 5 minutes before I get in and works great.
I agree, I love my Lyriq. My AWD Sport is fast and fun to drive. The only thing I agree with is the sound system. That needs to be improved.
But how does it compare to the Malibu Maxx SS? That car had Variable Valve Timing *AND* pushrods!
Live in the Washington DC area,these are starting to pop up in lots of places in this area. It's for people with good salaries who are also eco-friendly. That's it ,that's who is buying this...
"Septic is in my blood". I spart out my water on that one.
What Jack SHOULD have said at 9:11: "You should choose this if you want a premium BEV D-segment SUV that has a nicer interior and quieter cabin than a Model Y, and, more importantly, isn't a Tesla."
That's it, no? This is not a world-beater, but it's a credible alternative. Rivian, Lucid (who do have an SUV) are too expensive, Fisker is dead in the water, the Germans (EQE SUV etc.) and upcoming EX90 are more expensive, Mach-E/EV9 etc. are not premium... there really is a niche for this. Don't reduce it to Supercruise.
Exactly. Pretending that Supercruise is the only reason to choose a Cadillac over a Tesla is absolutely hilarious especially considering the fact Tesla has become synonymous with autonomous driving. They were both being so dense in that scene and playing dumb it was actually cringeworthy.
They claim a Con of the Lyriq is it’s real world efficiency?? Like Are you kidding me? These guys are clowns for posting this if I’m being honest.
@@G-Rated Well, to be fair, Supercruise has outperformed Tesla's system in several tests, at least on highways. But yeah, I feel the Lyric is a bit more than a one-trick pony.
I think one of the best selling points of the Lyriq is that it's not a Tesla. It's never going to match Tesla sales, but it offers a fairly compelling, upmarket alternative to the quality dumpster reputation Tesla seems to bring.
Yeah there's clearly a market for this and they were avoiding to admit it for some reason, it's a more affordable luxury suv there's nothing else really that competes in the price range, idk why they're comparing it with an ioniq n? Not even the same buyer. They didn't even mention an appropriate alternative smh
Yeah, super cruise is something I’d never use, and it’s a non-factor in any car purchase for me
Is this the future for us? Everything is the same with a different badge? Very strange with the audio; Cadillac NEEDS to fix that. Jack, did the Lyriq sound this bad when you drove it at launch?
Yeah he drove two both had horrible audio systems
It's always been like this
Look at cars from each decade like the 20s, 40s, 70s, 90s, etc etc. I look at little Euro hatchbacks from the 80s and can't tell the difference.
90s cars all had the same bland styling and plastic fantastic interiors.
This is nothing new. Only thing now it brands find a deisgn and run with it. You see one VW, BMW, Genesis you have seen all they have to offer
I don’t believe EVs are the future
Dude GM is the final boss of badge engineerig they been doing this
Fascism naturally has a uniformity obsession. Variety is seem as dangerous, because hard to control and too inefficient.
Looks like they super glued two different cars together. The front is all business, while the rear is all party, like a mullet.
It‘s ‘Murican
Your comment is accurate and clearly will appeal to a particular crowd.. Now we wait for the Ricky Bobby crowd 🍿
@@colin-nekritz Yee Haw
GM styling has been irrelevant for a long time. Bland and corporate
@@zoner__for anyone with functioning eyeballs to look at a Lyriq and call the styling “bland” are delusional.
I think the main point of this car is missing - it's not meant to be some odd EV, looking and feeling different from many other IC cars. I think it's meant to be a luxurious car appliance that's refined, quiet, stylish (to some), and is electric. It's a reasonable car, for reasonable people who want to arrive in style and don't want to pay a weird penalty for swapping to an EV.
right, the goofballs that want tick tacks and razor sharp edges have other options...
Could the audio problems be some weird thing related to their active noise cancelling?
Hoovie and April hit it on the head. The Lyriq has a "return to old school luxury" appeal, particularly in the areas Caddy was always known for: cushy suspension, cushy seats, huge trunk, some glitz and polarizing design (huge fins). In a world of modern spaceships, old school American luxury in an EV seems like a win. My wife got excited at the prospect of trading her Mercedes for one. I have seen a good number of Lyriqs on the road. Caddy may be coming back in surprising way.
April has brought me back to hoovie 😊😊😊😊
Every 5 years Cadillac has been “coming back” The world changed around 2018 GM has yet to get the message. Its core demographics are boomers and unfortunately they aren’t buying many cars anymore…
What is really weird is the obsession with “sporty”. If people really gave a sh1t about sports cars then SUVs and Pick Up trucks wouldn’t be selling the way they are. While I think a Jeep Wrangler is a cool car, I would never own one because they loud and obnoxious. I would rather have something like this that feels relaxing when you’re driving in the crappy traffic of the north east.
Agreed, keep the "sporty" to the sedans where it really belongs.
How did the sound engineers at AKG make such a huge blunder is the question.
You’d have to be a critical thinker for this to make sense. Consider the fact these reviewers are completely blowing the AKG sound system quality out of proportion and being dramatic because they can’t actually find faults with this vehicle. They gripe about the sound system this hard every time they review this car, it’s all they got. 🤷🏽♂️
@@G-Rated What you're talking about is wholly subjective, though. They have measurements to back their narrative up. Maybe you're right. Maybe they have a bias against GM or Cadillac, more specifically, that's motivating them to make a bigger thing of this than they would otherwise. Whether there's some truth to that or not, this is the opposite of a critical thinking issue. Someone who's unfamiliar with this channel and these two people wouldn't be able to deduce that assertion based on the objectives in this video.
@@G-Rated You know they love BMW, they can do no wrong💥
Maybe because AKG makes headphones
I'm baffled by how often auto makers produce muddy, stale sounding audio systems when decent sounding home speakers have been a commodity product for decades at this point.
Having seen a Lyriq in person, I think they look nice. It’s kind of a futuristic but still classy looking luxury SUV.
I think comparisons with the Kia and Hyundai EVs are misplaced. This is clearly a much nicer car than those brands sell, plus no one is cross-shopping an Ionic N and the Lyriq.
Also, unless you lease, wait and buy a much cheaper but like-new CPO Lyriq in a year or two. I wouldn’t buy a new one, but I’d consider one like Hoovie just picked up!
Is this possible? Active noise cancellation is interfering with itself? Thus why left and right channels have a disparity (mic locations) ?
Best reason I’ve seen so far
My wife and I just went through the shopping process for an EV. We drive a ~60 miles loop each day for school drop off, office, school pick up, and back home. Long enough that fuel costs add up, but not long enough that total range or charging times matter. We have a second ICE car for roadtrips. The number of competent but generic EV vehicles out there that are broadly interchangeable is shocking. We ended up with a Subaru Solterra because the dealership gave us the best price. But prices are so unmoored from MSRP at this point that we could have ended up anywhere. Hyundais were marked up. Kias were marked up. Fords were marked down. Teslas are Teslas. Toyota PHEVs were back ordered. Volvo EVs were back ordered and marked up. Subaru gave us $10k off list, but the next week we could have needed up in a Genesis for all I know.
People like to shit on the Solterra because it's slow charging. But if that doesn't matter and you can get a new one for $35k, it's a good deal. The only thing wrong with the car is the MSRP which can basically be ignored.
Lease deals are where EVs shine. Buy used EV under $25k and take your $4,000 tax credit at purchase time.
Good mention about the blinding interior bits. It's not just Caddy, oh-so-many cars nowadays have this problem. I drove a C300 for the better part of 1,000 miles a few years ago & had to place a towel over the center console to keep from being blinded by the sun. Glossy &/or polished decorative bits have no place in the front driver or passenger space of cars. It's bad enough having to deal with the massive glass screens all over but the other stuff just compounds the problems.
It's almost like the designers haven't driven cars. Lol. Dei much?
I'm a 40 year old professional with an 80 mile round trip commute and a 3 year old that rides in a car seat. Gas in California is $5+/gallon and I like a nice quiet interior. I almost exclusively listen to podcasts and audio books while driving so the audio system would probably be fine for me. The super cruise sounds very nice.
I've been fantasizing about buying a manual Blackwing for years but can't actually convince myself that would be smart to commute in. Maybe some day.
The Lyriq doesn't sound like a perfect car but sounds like it might be a good fit for me, especially if I can get a lightly used top end spec one for the right price.
what is this on lease in the us?
Commuting on any manual car is fine.
Buy a Blackwing while you still can. You can get supercruise on a Blackwing. Don’t be a dummy.
There is a time and place (retirement - nursing home) for the Cadillac Lyric. The depriation on the Lyric will out balance the gas bill on the Blackwing.
Ultium isn’t a vehicle platform. It’s just branding for technology.
Lyriq is on BEV3. Whereas the trucks are on BT1.
Also, two videos on the Lyriq and still none on the Model Y?
Scaleable platform for sure. And battery agnostic.
That you had to stop and highlight how off the audio system is in a $60k + vehicle is unacceptable. It should be "fine" at worst, not actually bad.
It is basically super-quiet because aimed at people who perceive music as noise.
They are exaggerating with the audio quality and how “bad” it is. There are literally other reviewers that praise the same exact AKG system in this Lyriq so take that with a grain of salt and experience it for yourself.
Because it's actually not that bad. The car has settings to adjust all these settings they show as lacking. It's really not that big of an issue.
Maybe active noise cancelation interference
@@Fellolkekwhy isn’t it configured that way from the factory then? It’s usually not as easy as just changing some settings
I just got one. Black, with white interior. Drives amazing. Super classy. May Ibarra. You will definitely make a difference
These are very popular in NYC
I kiiiiind of see where you guys are coming from with the Malibu Max comparison, but I really gotta squint. I think this thing is gorgeous.
I really don’t see the similarity to the Malibu Max, maybe I’m not focusing on the same features. Pretty bold, right at the start!
These things are a common sight in NYC. A lot of them are being used as livery vehicles and i think in that application it works. Also, the lease prices are attractive and majority of NY likes to lease so theres that.
Thank you so much for always providing the audio details. Such a huge importance in purchasing a car and something that doesn’t get enough focus (a real channel differentiator)!
Yea. When you get above $50k, people care very much about the audio system sounding impressive. It doesn’t matter when NVH is horrible cause everything sounds like crap. But the quieter the car is, you’ll hear more creaks and rattles from fit and finish and imperfections in the audio equipment.
Great review and very fair. Caddy has really upped the interior quality compared to their recent past. I’m glad that that Cadillac is at least sticking with offering sedans as an alternative, along with BMW, Mercedes and other premium badges. This EV, well, so many legacy manufacturer EVs, are so polarizing and confusing from a design standpoint. Especially this and the Celestiq.
I like that this car has HVAC buttons, physical vent controls, an on/off button and a normal OS (Android). The rear design has negative space that reminds me of the Lotus Eletre and the front design is expressive and interesting. I'm an older millennial and there's a lot that I like about this car.
Theory about the bad audio: as people age they tend to lose the ability to hear high frequencies. During market research the elderly test subjects preferred a more bass heavy sound profile, so Cadillac went with that to appeal to their target demographic. I could be wrong though.
That is true, elderly test subjects sometimes prefer more treble. Beats instilled the idea that more bass = better.
I'm not elderly or Gen Z, I simply have sensitive hearing. I can't stand too much highs. It's no problem for me to turn them down in the settings, but maybe they are doing that from the factory to appeal to them.
they're targeting a younger audience... they said it like 5 times in the video lol
My guess is that this one had a busted speaker. Maybe Mark and Jack wouldn't have found it because of how many speakers they jam into the thing. Even if that's the case, that's a bad look for the Cadillac reps to let a press car go out with a busted sound system.
While funny theory, it'd be the opposite. They'd totally fry the EQ towards tweeters/highs to compensate for that loss. Just like hearing aids do.
Chvrolet Malibu Max comment (at 0.48) was a bingo for me. A friend made a similar comment but without the OBVIOUS example. Now I can't unsee that.
Haven’t driven the Lyriq but have driven an EV6 and have experience with a Bolt.
I think where this vehicle makes a lot of sense is when you start to consider what ICE vehicles in this size class cost. A Lyriq Tech (base trim) is well equipped and can be had for same or less than stuff like Grand Cherokee, Lexus RX, Acura MDX, BMW X5, MB GLE, Audi Q7, Lincoln Aviator, Volvo XC90, etc.
So I think for some folks see the value in getting this because it offers a lot, and it really lacks a clear direct competitor.
The Model Y is a size down, EV9 is sorta close but for are you really going to take a Kia when you can have a Cadillac? The Macan EV is considerably more and smaller. And that’s really all that’s on sale…
Metro Cars are now using Lyriq’s as an airport shuttle car - tbh a great set up for livery service with big trunk & backseat.
And the leases on the Lyriq are not bad
I’ll possibly in the market for a new vehicle at the end of the year and this is on my radar, along with Charger EV, 500e, Equinox/Blazer EV, Lucid Air. Would like an EV but not married to it - it will come down to what vehicle will give me the most utility and value for the dollar (on a lease).
Might even consider a Hybrid or PHEV vehicle but there doesn’t seem to be any amazing incentives or lease programs at the moment, so it’s not really on my radar.
The video is 10 minutes old. How is your comment from 2 days ago?!
@@phatgringo2.0 patron subs get earlier access
Your money to waste.
yeah its bigger and you pay for it with 2.5 m/kwh and less than 300 miles range... and looks whack in terms of proportion.
kia has had Cadillac beat in quality for a few years now in my eyes… caddy’s have always been upbadged pieces of GM junk.
I live in texas and i see a few of these every single day in DFW area. I honestly shocked at well put together the panles are very high quality. My 2020 Chevy not so much attention to panel gaps.
Saw one of these with the same red color yesterday. Thought it looked very nice, bigger and taller than I thought. If I were to get a Chevy EV, it’ll probably be a size down to better fit in the garage.
GM may have a long way to go to compete with the luxury marks, but it my understanding that they are working on improving material quality throughout the lineup. It might be a challenge for auto makers to invest a lot of time and money into a market segment that isn't growing as anticipated. Buyers are going a little soft on EVs lately, so what to do? Cadillac still has one of the best design-languages in the industry, much more desirable than Audi and vastly better than BMW. I tend to buy VWs and Hondas, but if I was in the market for an SUV-EV, this would be on my short-list.
Audio testing is very helpful. Would love to see a savagegeese top 3 audio systems breakdown video
Me too
No way a factory car has those issues. Must be a broken adjustment or component.
I love the absurd level of detail you guys go into concerning audio systems, ive been doing audio engineering for 13 years now
Do you think noise cancelation systems messed up testing?
Idk what these guys are talking about, this clearly has a place in the market, a more affordable luxury suv, more luxury than an ioniq 5 and model y, cheaper than the Germans, there aren't many competitors in this segment right now
That's what I was thinking. In the US the Germans are in another price bracket, Kia/Hyundai is in a different class, and Tesla has become radioactive thanks to Musk for many people. There is most definitely a place in the US market for this if the EV demand continues.
I love that musk has saved free speach (any claim by left or right can have community notes). That is democracy.
I can't stand his cars. I don't want a toaster/sewing machine.
Give me a dash/cockpit.
That Hyundai with the crazy sounds maybe. The ford mach-e, maybe (not plush enough).
Bad when a Malibou maxx looks better than this.
The Lyriq is No. 1 selling luxury EV right now!
I always thought Cadillac's rebrand started with the 2002 CTS, with the car being used in the highway chase scene in the 2nd Matrix movie reinforcing that it's not a nursing home car anymore.
The issue is a 40 year old then is 60 now same issue
@@TwoDollarGararge Yeah every 35 year old who bought a Caddy in 1960 was a 70 year old in 1995, and they kept their 1960's buying habits where it was a Caddy or nothing.
@deanchur and someone swayed by cadi in 2002 that was 45 is now 67 aka retired in Florida.
It did. You are correct.
@@deanchurNo it did, you’re actually correct. But brand snobs like to discredit Cadillac for their efforts back then and still til this day. That’s why they can’t figure out why a Cadillac Lyriq is outselling the brands they feel are above Cadillac in cache and Tesla as far as EVs. *gm* just killed 2 birds with one stone and Savagegeese can’t fathom how because they’ve told themselves Cadillac has been failing and wouldn’t be able to pull this off. Think of it like that and it’ll make more sense to you when they failed to mention the 2002 CTS in the Matrix movie.
I’m 30 yo and know exactly what you mean btw so it’s not an age issue either.
Well their rebrand is working because I just got one last Friday. Love it even though it’s a tech trim.
Fully agree with Mark, people don’t take septic tank system care seriously nowadays. It’s the Wild West out there
What is it about the Ultium platform that doesn’t allow the car to have a frunk?
I think the real sell for this car is buying it used after Septic Tank Guy eats a large chunk of the depreciation.
The Cadillac Lyric is the best selling luxury EV crossover for the first quarter of 2024. I love the fact that it’s not a generic looking EV but I can see how the rear can be polarizing and my wife is not a fan of the rear either but I think they nailed the long hood rear wheel drive presence.
Thanks for a very honest, informative and funny review. I agree, not sure what makes this stand out against it's competition. It being quite is not enough to justify going with this model. In regards to the audio, you will have to test the Acura ZDX and Honda variant. I'm really curious if it's a Cadillac issue, or a poor design on all the different models.
Can you make a video explaining the audio graphs? I never can see what is on the x & y axis and have no baseline to interpret these data from. They look pretty, but they don't tell anyone anything (outside of an audio engineer) meaningful. Thanks. (Love your content by the way!)
Does is come with thermal runaway suppression?
I’m sure Toyota is really regretting not taking the EV plunge like everyone else, what do they know about cars?
To be fair that was mainly caused by Japanese geopolitics which is/was much more hydrogen focused for different reasons.
What do you know about cars ? 😂 Your statement couldn't be further from the truth
Let everyone flounder, see what works & market wants. Then build something reliable and class leading
They sell more cars than any other company, not jumping into the EV fad will prove to be a wise decision. As Toyota points out you can make 90 hybrid vehicles with the amount of rare earth materials required to make 1 EV.
He was being sarcastic @@BCJDM
I had a mid-2000's F-150 with a factory stereo that sounded _exactly_ like you just described, but only (if I recall) when using the aux input, or possibly built-in satellite radio (sorry, long time ago). Anyway, turns out some brilliant engineer at Ford decided it'd be a good idea to send that particular output over the *CANBUS.* Unbelievable.
Taking my mom to check one of these out, the Malibu max takes me down a notch lol
This is the first review to call the interior cheap. I sat in it and thought the interior was definitely a step up from most Cadillac interiors and on par with other luxury brands.
I’ll say it again, after watching them review this vehicle a second time it’s clear that they have something against it. It’s the same problem with Out of Spec’s reviews and *gm* products. These people are clearly biased and need to throw in the towel if they can’t give viewers accurate and honest feedback.
@@G-Rated they also trashed the XT6 as a nursing home car even though it drives great, comfortable, plenty of safety features, and handsome looking. They complained about the price knowing that GM/Cadillac discount their cars a lot more than Audi and others
I really like the interior and after sitting in several EVs at an auto show recently the Lyriq was miles ahead at least in cabin feel.
@@G-Rated The pieces are real but it "feels cheap." Would you prefer fake if it felt real? There are some pretty convincing fake leathers on the market nowadays.
Clearly a biased review. On the other hand, every manufacturer makes a "fill the gap" car, including Honda, Toyota, Lexus, etc.
We just picked up our Sport 3 AWD in Emerald Lake Metallic with the Juniper Nappa leather interior...it is absolutely amazing to look at and sit in (IMHO). Easily the best and most interesting EV on the market in it's price range. There are literally 6-8 Tesla's at every interaction here in California and the Lyriq is such a refreshing departure from that styling. As far as driving, the quietest car I've ever driven and I appreciate it immensely as I have profound hearing loss at the age of 46 and the lack of road/wind noise makes conversation so much better for me in the car. We leased the car and got almost $10k in discounts + $7500 added on to the residual value. Heck of a lease deal on an $80k car. There are certainly a few odd design choices for the car (like the bright chrome around the climate controls that is rather blinding in direct sunlight). So far the wife and I both enjoy the audio system. Maxing out the surround slider and bumping up some of the values in the equalizer helped a lot. Overall, we love the car so far...its fast, quiet, smooth, comfortable, full of tech, stands out on the road, is very spacious, and dealers are offering great incentives right now. We will see how things go over the next 3 years of the lease!
That color is a such nice mix of black and deep green!
We had a '24 Equinox as a rental on vacation last month. While the trim on the dash and center console was more of a brushed aluminum it caused a ton of glare. I used post-it notes on various locations on the dash to stop it.
My ex had a 2014 cruze that had a bunch of chrome on the dash.
Gm seriously needs to change their interiors.
The '09 Impala I drove had the same issue, too much chrome which glares the sun into my eyes. Some exterior chrome is fine, but man that interior stuff provides no utility. Like do they have sun where they prototype these things?
I enjoy your automotive journalism weekly but in the larger scheme of things the guy who pumps my septic is way more important. I can't do without him.
septicgeese
I wasn't ready for that "septic tank man" story
Enjoying that Disneyland Jamboree music at the end.
I have a Luxury 3 Lyriq it’s a really great car….that audio system…. AKG it’s hands down the worst I’ve ever heard I thought I was tripping it’s honestly that bad that front center speaker I really want to just take a screwdriver and jam it through the dashboard. It’s shrill almost like it’s a bad paper speaker. The bass is okay it’s only coming from the back definitely a let down in that area by far. If you’re spending that much on a car dammit it should come with something respectable 😂. But Emerald Lake with the Juniper interior….chefs kiss
That Emerald color is such unique and gorgeous color. A lady at work has that color and seen a few times.
AKG doesn’t mean jacksh*t since Samsung bought it
Bingo. AKG used to be a well respected audio brand. Samsung makes good phones and SSDs but everything else in their portfolio of brands gets starved for resources. AKG is a good match for Cadillac for that reason.
@@bassandtrebleclefI wonder if the b&o system in the zdx is any better. The akg system in my dads Lyriq is pretty bad. Which is pretty disappointing considering all the hype from Cadillac marketing on the akg system
@nazhif1 @Wasabi9111 They also own B&O, Harman Kardon, Infinity, JBL, Lexicon, Mark Levinson, Revel
@@bassandtrebleclefso many Cadillac haters here watching this review…
@@viince718Exactly, but that doesn’t fit their narrative of AKG being cheap because it’s owned by Samsung so they left that part out. 🙄
This at MSRP is uncompetitive at best. But in the US they’re having a hard time selling and there are major discounts, as much as $10k off sticker. My local dealer has around 60 of them on the lot. With the deals available this car starts to make a lot more sense.
Even at MSRP it isn't really uncompetitive, price starts at $50,000 after the $7,500 tax incentive / "Ultium Promise Bonus Cash", not including shipping. Sales are pretty decent as well, ~3000 in the month of May which is a 3rd of GM's EV sales and a quarter of Cadillac's total sales.
Mach-e's in canada, dealers still have NEW 2022's! Lol.
got stuck with price gouging, and the bottom fell out.
2023 new mach-e for 40k cdn = 30k usd.
No. 1 selling lux EV today!
I see just as many older people driving Mercedes,Audi and Bmw's as I do Cadillac,the senior citizen thing is so played out.
While I'm not impressed with this car from a brand new perspective, Hoovie pointed out that you can get 1-2 year old versions in the mid $40k range which makes this a much more appealing offering. I don't hold GM QA to a golden standard but this seems like it's nailed together better than a model Y and isn't as painfully hip and modern as a EV9 or Ioniq5.
The audio should be easily fixable by crossover or surface reflection improve my material, because the defect can be heard easily.
Possibly the tweeter won’t play low enough to get the blend to work well. They should be able to easily blend the sub you would hope
One thing I think we all can agree on, it is the wild west of septic tank systems out there.
The Lyriq is too big for us, I’m patiently waiting for the Optiq.
These can't be so common, but I've seen 3 of these being towed on a flatbed tow truck in just a few months 🤣🤣🤣
Could just be new orders?
Not good, think they only sold about 10 at the price they wanted for them to begin with.
@@imnotsqiddy Maybe, but they weren't dealership tow trucks though. One of them was in a walmart parking lot getting picked up.
@@lordcorgi6481you’re trying way too hard, like most Lyriq naysayers. 🤡
You’ll see these all over metro Detroit. Only GM employees seem to be driving Lyriqs.
This review demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of this car's target audience and value proposition. After test driving it, I found it to be a strong contender in its segment, particularly for its price point. The styling is a refreshing departure from the homogeneity of many other EVs, clearly aiming for a different consumer than those drawn to Tesla. In my area, (Northern Virginia/ DC suburbs) the car seems quite popular among affluent young professionals. While I generally respect this channel's reviews, this one misses the mark entirely.
I would agree with your sentment.
EVs dont have any value proposition.
Which makes the Lyriq best seller in lux EVs.
The appliance car is so easy to mess up with so many competitors. I don’t want a sports car to handle traffic in the perfect grid of Chicago and Detroit, that can be a dedicated weekend machine. The reason I ended up with the Volvo V60 was due to it being a good enough car from an ADAS, safety, refinement perspective, but with an amazing audio system. Hearing about the audio here really shut down any chance of moving to GM, which I was willing to overlook the lack of Apple CarPlay if everything else worked well enough.
The car has CarPlay and AndroidAuto. At least mine does.
This will be one of Cadillac's entry EV SUVs on par with ICE XT5.
A relative bought this after a career working in a Ford factory. He liked it better than the Emustang. He hasn't driven it since. It's a cool car, it's wheels look bigger than tractor tires though.
Why hasn't he driven it?
@@goncalo33idk. He seemed to like the car.
I actually like the design and don't agree it looks like that old Chevy LOL. I won't get one but just saying the styling isn't that bad. I am surprised how popular this car is, I see at least 10+ here in the neighborhood already and some folks replaced their model Y dual motor to get these. (a bit of a head scratcher).
It’s not a head scratcher, Cadillac knows luxury cars and the target buyer for them A LOT better than Tesla does. Simple.
I see these everywhere as well
Are you saying that GM cuts corners with cheap materials? How dare you!!
That's certainly nothing new. But I will warn you, after 8 years with my Rav4, I realized Toyota also has a knack for cutting corners. They just don't do it in areas that may affect reliability.
My Cadillac CT4 has one of the best sound systems I've ever heard.
Thanks for addressing efficiency and charging speed, it’s more important than 0to60 which is a bit tiring to keep hearing about. 2.5 miles/kwh is not very good but it seems common in the luxury segment like Audi. For comparison my BMW i3 gets 4.5 miles/kwh but weighs 2900lbs. I’m not sure that there is a path to much higher efficiency for heavier vehicles but I’m not an engineer. Perhaps the best argument for the lyric is that it doesn’t have buck teeth ! Thanks BMW
What are they doing? Signed e36/e46 owner (owned ?8 of them)
See other YT range tests. They are getting close to 350 miles or +3kw/mile.
They took the quietness of car so far that you dont even hear the music 😂
Maybe you just nailed it!? Active noise cancellation is interfering with itself? Thus why left and right channels have a disparity (mic locations) ?
@@CheezeCracker or they have taken the post processing eq too far .. how it sounds in the mix vs how it sounds on post might be the mess up.. so long for the customer experience
@@thunderbolt854 It ain't good, when a Corolla beats a caddy's sound system.
That front is all Mandalorian helmet.
W audio testing!
Getting to the "why this over any other EV" question, I'd assume it'll all be based off of what lease deals the manufacturer offers since, like you've said, people should only be leasing these 1st-ish gen mainline EVs.
Yeah, the last time I was in a GM dealership was in the '70's, and I'm ok with that.
What we want: Cadillac from the 1960’s
What we get: Cadillac from the 1990’s
Strange that what was going wrong the most in the Malibu axx was its electric steering system so let's hope that this all-electric Caddy doesn't deviate from its path.
So boom y’all really should have just said yall don’t like this vehicle and made it 10 seconds long.
Saw one of these in the wild yesterday. It certainly is... something.
Too kind.
Another reason people would buy this is because of the looks. I think it looks horrendous, but my mom will not stop talking about those "electric Cadillacs". Second coming of Jesus to her I swear.
I think it looks good
It’s a solution to the awful 3.6 drivetrain that was used in a lot of models.
It looks way better in person than it does in video and pictures which in my experience is exceptionally rare to find these days.
If she loves Cadillacs i would bet Trump is her 2nd coming of Jesus😂
And so much better than any Tesla.
I would buy the Lyriq, wire it into my home, and use it for energy backup during hurricanes, when the power goes out.
With 190kwh, I figure I could last about a week. Perhaps I should buy two...
Well done.
Battery is 102kWh.
@@billjohnson3344 Then I sure hope the power restoration doesn't take more than 4 days.
@@dannoyes4493 Not following - Lyriq has one the biggest batteries in the segment. How long it can power your home (if you want to use it that way) is solely dependent on how much you consume. In a blackout, most people would cut back to extend their backup time.
@@billjohnson3344 Obviously I want to consume enough electricity to keep my Diet Dr. Peppers cold and the interwebs warm so I don't miss any Savagegeese videos.
you guys are clearly biased against... I mean a malibu? what are you smoking? I have a 2023 awd. its the best car I have ever owned... minus the subtle body roll I can do without, its the most lux car for the $. your comments about how it stands out is silly... if you want a lux ev and want to avoid tesla... its best deal out there by a mile for the size, style and comfort. I also think the sound system at higher volumes is great. the latest software update seemed to fix some of the earlier issues at low volume.
1612! The code to my pacemaker. I am probably in the minority in that I love the exterior styling of this thing, but every thing else about it is ridiculous. If it were half the car it is right now--price and materials--I'd buy it, lift it and put mud tires on it.
You guys are kinda mean to this car. I see a ton of young people in DC area drive these and they look way better than a Tesla. (No I don’t own one or want one)
if they must pipe in sound, how about that of an Harley Electra Glide?
Was hoping Jack would explain in the 'Mechanical Impressions' section just what is taking up all that under-hood space such that there is no frunk like the competition...just the "inefficient packaging"?
Cadillac says you have sufficient room in the rear. There is also a large space for storage under the floor.
Savage geese missed the point about this car. Jack gets it and it is a fine distinctive Caddy. Savage geese is still thinking he is 22 and in fast and furious Honda days. Grow up. Well done Jack.
Yup, people who have 70k to blow on a car want quiet, comfortable, and supercruise. Put it on a solid platform and that’s enough.