Had a Parker Composite 505 in the 80s. Still the most fun boat I have owned. Plane in a puff and unlike my International 14 and Dutchman not hugely complicated rigging adjustments. Only cost me $360 But with $10000 worth of excitement and still was competitive . Great boats.
The first comments from you in the video was classic! "this is feeling pretty good, I'm pretty happy with this...." then reality hits....LOL I said the same thing several years ago...and I still do to this day.
I was stand-in crew on a friend's 505 for a race in the mid 1960s. We were in our mid teens, so I think that it was most likely his father's boat. It was a windy day and we capsized six times. We were still near the front at the finish. I loved the boat. Very lively. Stable if you know what you're doing 😁 Very easy to right after a capsize. The hull shape just looked right. I remember a veneered fore deck. Lovely looking boat. At that age we were immortal and I was very keen on getting an extra long tiller extension so that we could sail single-handed from the wire. It didn't happen, but after Uni I tried to get a Contender. I got diverted by A-Class catamarans and never regretted it. I still think it would be fun to rig a 505 for single handed sailing and take it out in 25 to 30 kts.
That sounds a lot like my first time in a 505! I was also crew for someone sailing his dad's boat. Wind was about 18 or so and we also capsized a bunch. So similar to yours! I've singlehanded mine in a light air day, but I didn't have my harness so I couldn't do it from the wire. I know people who have done it of the trapeze, but not in 25+. I don't know it's even possible in that much wind.
@@Wire2WireSailing It was the gybes that got us. 25+ would be tough, but I think it would be doable. Not to race, though. Flat out planing reaches while hanging on for dear life 😁 I managed to survive on my A-Class in much stronger winds when we got hit by a huge change that had some boats cartwheeling across the water. There was no thought of powering up.
Make sure when capsizing if your gonna fall on the main spread your body out because it will reduce the load on one part of the main and lower the chance of you falling through it.
It's a clever little system that makes sailing a symmetric super simple. There's separate sheet, guy and pole on each side, with the guys led through loops in the pole launcher line. The launcher line goes through the pole, then from the aft end goes up to a fitting on the mast and down to a cleat. Pulling the launcher puts everything in place all at once, and to gybe release the working pole and launch the other one. It's a great system, but a lot of one design classes don't allow double spin poles.
Maybe you guys should tie knots in the spinnaker sheet, so the respective spinnaker pole does not touch the forestay. Can't imagine that being healthy for either the forestay or the poles. The knots should be tied in a way that the respective barber hauler stops the pole from being more forward. Be aware that the height of the poles does have an effect on the geometry here.
I suspect they have twin spinney sheets. so not actually an option for them..! but I agree with the principle of what you say. The initial position of the kite, about 6 inches off the forestay is what most people try to sail with. If you too close to the forestay. then the mast bend (in gusts) pushes the pole into it (5:55). notice how when the crew sheets in, it changes the position of the pole. oddly pulling more vang on (a little) or pulling the strut up, takes the problem away.
Had a Parker Composite 505 in the 80s.
Still the most fun boat I have owned.
Plane in a puff and unlike my International 14 and Dutchman not hugely complicated rigging adjustments.
Only cost me $360 But with $10000 worth of excitement and still was competitive .
Great boats.
Oh man.. Sailing is such a wonderful thing.
The first comments from you in the video was classic! "this is feeling pretty good, I'm pretty happy with this...." then reality hits....LOL I said the same thing several years ago...and I still do to this day.
I'm glad we're not the only ones!
I was stand-in crew on a friend's 505 for a race in the mid 1960s. We were in our mid teens, so I think that it was most likely his father's boat. It was a windy day and we capsized six times. We were still near the front at the finish. I loved the boat. Very lively. Stable if you know what you're doing 😁 Very easy to right after a capsize. The hull shape just looked right. I remember a veneered fore deck. Lovely looking boat.
At that age we were immortal and I was very keen on getting an extra long tiller extension so that we could sail single-handed from the wire. It didn't happen, but after Uni I tried to get a Contender. I got diverted by A-Class catamarans and never regretted it. I still think it would be fun to rig a 505 for single handed sailing and take it out in 25 to 30 kts.
That sounds a lot like my first time in a 505! I was also crew for someone sailing his dad's boat. Wind was about 18 or so and we also capsized a bunch. So similar to yours!
I've singlehanded mine in a light air day, but I didn't have my harness so I couldn't do it from the wire. I know people who have done it of the trapeze, but not in 25+. I don't know it's even possible in that much wind.
@@Wire2WireSailing It was the gybes that got us. 25+ would be tough, but I think it would be doable. Not to race, though. Flat out planing reaches while hanging on for dear life 😁 I managed to survive on my A-Class in much stronger winds when we got hit by a huge change that had some boats cartwheeling across the water. There was no thought of powering up.
It's Rigel! Great work guys!!!
Thanks! She's still Rigel (at least for now), I need to get a decal or something made.
Make sure when capsizing if your gonna fall on the main spread your body out because it will reduce the load on one part of the main and lower the chance of you falling through it.
Super boats.
Had you never drove a high performance boat before?
How does that spin poll work?
It's a clever little system that makes sailing a symmetric super simple. There's separate sheet, guy and pole on each side, with the guys led through loops in the pole launcher line. The launcher line goes through the pole, then from the aft end goes up to a fitting on the mast and down to a cleat. Pulling the launcher puts everything in place all at once, and to gybe release the working pole and launch the other one. It's a great system, but a lot of one design classes don't allow double spin poles.
i would have left the spinnaker in a bag, at home, the first time out.
Maybe I should have, but where's the fun in that?
@@Wire2WireSailing oh come on...capsizing is less fun that sailing IMHO,.... i say take an unfamiliar rig one step at a time.
At least little dinghies like this aren't too hard to get right after a capsize. We got it right back up and carried on.
@@Wire2WireSailing Yeah, it's a pretty rocking sail, with a good save.
Try a C 15 instead 🤓
Maybe I will if I get a chance, they seem to mostly be a SoCal thing though? I know at one time they were pretty popular.
Maybe you guys should tie knots in the spinnaker sheet, so the respective spinnaker pole does not touch the forestay. Can't imagine that being healthy for either the forestay or the poles. The knots should be tied in a way that the respective barber hauler stops the pole from being more forward. Be aware that the height of the poles does have an effect on the geometry here.
If you tie the knot when the pole is parallel to the boat it should be fine for every angle right?
@@leftvassis yes, the higher your pole goes, the farther afterwards it stays. Which is pretty fine for higher windspeeds.
I suspect they have twin spinney sheets. so not actually an option for them..! but I agree with the principle of what you say. The initial position of the kite, about 6 inches off the forestay is what most people try to sail with. If you too close to the forestay. then the mast bend (in gusts) pushes the pole into it (5:55). notice how when the crew sheets in, it changes the position of the pole. oddly pulling more vang on (a little) or pulling the strut up, takes the problem away.
Poor Boaty Boat...
These two aren't ready for this yet.
I mean you cant get better unless you practice
They are flying now I bet...
They’re doing fine, only one way to get improve is time in the boat
@@angusrichardson8938 💯
Everyone starts somewhere..!!