@@PeterKeller247 mostly because it would allow for a different kind of stimulus for the body compared to a barbell squat. Belt squats allow you to load the legs without putting as much pressure on the spine. It would allow for a better sort of isolation. Barbell squats are still critical though but I want to see more variety to leg exercises that can be done in a home gym.
Kick stand? Just link a heavy duty chain from top of the rack to your end of the lever arm+carribeaner and you can start in the top position. Unclip the carribeaner, then when you're done, reattach. You'll be in the standing squat position, the lever arm will be supported by the chain. Namaste x
I was lucky enough to grab one of these at the initial release. The build quality is amazing, and Fringe Sport identified an issue in a batch of their included belts (I noticed literally nothing wrong with the one I received...) and sent new belts out to everyone free of charge. In my opinion I think the instructions needed a little bit more work for what size sockets are required for assembly. I've used it a few times now and unfortunately I can't say that it's been great simply because of the lack of the kickstand. I've basically stopped using mine until that becomes an option. I've reached out and they said they are working on it as an add-on but I have not yet seen an ETA.
Review the Elite FTS belt squat attachment. It comes with a SPUD inc belt for about $280. It needs a land mine and barbell to attach too, but works well for what it is.
I ended up buying this. I have a 2" x 2" TDS squat rack that only has holes going from front to back. I don't have space to use this off to the side so I bought a 5/8 in drill bit and drilled a hole to mount it. Added a couple washers to make it fit tighter on the rack. I like it. Get it with the kickstand. It's well worth it.
I am 100% getting this for my Titan T3 Rack (Update) Got it with the kick stand and LOVE IT! I use it as a leg burnout exercise and back pulls to good effect.
This one looks much better than the revolting model. I’d like to see something like this one, with a means of attaching to a horizontal cross member at the bottom rear of my cage. That way, I could use the cage for balance, etc. It would require a swivel joint for up and down movement. I would also like to see a version that I can use standard plates (1 inch center hole) with.
I attached their new kickstand. It took me about 5 minutes to attach. It makes a huge difference; although, the negative is that you have to move the weight peg up one hole which slightly reduces the true weight you are lifting. Also, Coop is right about increasing the arm length to reduce the swing angle. Overall, I am happy with the Belt Squat.
Originally got this to supplement my regular squats but since developing some back issues it's replaced my regular squats. If my back doesn't improve I may get a dedicated belt squat machine but this has been great to have.
Coop.....completely unrelated to this video, but seeing its your most recent I figured I'd post here. In a prior video you said you were going to do an in-depth video of the core home fitness adjustable dumbbells. I am trying to decide between Nordic Track select 55s and the core home fitness. Really appreciate all your videos and your opinion. Thanks Paul
Just ordered this with the kickstand and new weight horn setup. Excited to add some squat variety. I’ll add price had nothing to do with my decision. It was simply that I don’t have the space for a larger dedicated belt squat machine.
I unfortunately/fortunately have a T Bar stand for squats because of the ceiling hight in my basement but for whatever reason I enjoy watching all of your reviews.
Don't know of any attachments but a safety squat bar comes on handy for standing calf raises. It's great because you can hold on to the rack with your hands while the bar sits on your shoulders. I use a stepper for a calf board.
We considered a similar set-up/solution. The problem with it is difficulty re-engaging this solution at the end of a set. Whereas the kickstand we are *almost* don with is easy and safe to use at the beginning of a set... and at the end
The BoS belt squat doesn't have protective plastic where it meets your squat racks uprights- otherwise i would have bought it. Might get this one and the dedicated wall mount! Thanks for the review
Hi love your reviews on stuff. On the fringe belt squat how do you feel about it for someone 6’3 ? I tried the Revolt and it sucks, limited range of motion
Love these vids! If I have a Rep lat/low row would you suggest I get this over the Rep Belt Squat? They are doing a deal where the kickstand comes with for free right now!
It will work with that rack. There will just be a little bit of play in the mount. Or, if you hate that, grab the wall mount attachment and attach the wall mount to your rack and the belt squat to the wall mount
I have one of these and it's great. I also pre ordered the new kickstand which looks awesome. I guess they took your advice. I wonder if there Is a way to add another horn either on top or put 2 on the sides. Or maybe add a longer horn on top. I'm getting close to maxing it out. Any thoughts?
the problem with this style of belt squat is that you have to load a ton of plates to get enough resistance cause the lever isn't very long, and the weight is far away from the body and doesn't move much. I built something similar with some 2x4s and a metal pipe that attaches to pin safeties for like $50. I think these can be greatly improved by having a Y shaped design with 2 weight horns like the belt squat machines. It would be bigger, but it would be much better loading
Very good feedback! One benefit of our design is that the lever *is* quite a bit longer than the other options on the market. We made the design adjustable and modular to accommodate this. And as for the side mount weight horns, those are coming in the next few months and again, since the design is modular, they will fit the existing units on the market as an upgrade if needed.
What is the ‘felt’ load on this? On the revolt review it was stated at 60%. Because at max length this is longer is the felt load a greater percentage?
@@PeterKeller247 How are you calculating that? Based on this video it looks like the weight horn is about 2/3 of the way between the fulcrum and the attachment point, which would work out to around 67% load. Still much better than something like the Revolt, which is a terrible design, but 90% seems way off.
I just bought this specifically because you can get a kickstand now and it totally fits my needs. The instructions aren't the best, but that's my biggest complaint.
If you want to save money and do the exercise what the bronze era and silver era used Get two boxes of equal height, stand on the box with a weight dip belt,
I'll give you the biased opinion (since I work for Fringe). The Rep option is a great piece of engineering, and I think generally priced OK assuming you have all the other gear that you need. The Rep option also has 2 big advantages going for it- 1:1 weight and a true vertical plane of motion. That said, A) You need the Rep rack and weight stack already to attach it to, B) I bet install and having it attached to your rack is cumbersome and C) it still suffers from the "kickstand" problem, with a solution to this problem much harder to address. With our design, we focused on interoperability (works with ALL racks or even just a wall), ease of install and tear-down (so you are not limiting your rack when not in use) and space efficiency, while delivering all this at a VERY approachable price. LHLH Lift Heavy Lift Happy!
I would love to get a belt squat, but the back and forth movement worries me. IMO, the point to getting a belt squat is to be able to do heavy reps with less chance of injury than having bar up on top of your spine. More weight, less risk. But if you are pushing yourself (say, in the three rep range) it seems to me even a little back and forth movement would pose a serious risk of injury. I don't see that addressed in any videos on these things. You don't see someone doing 300 lbs. on it, for example.
If the longer the lever is the best for belt squats, why not just use an Olympic bar with weights in a landmine with a single handle attached to it so you can hook a chain to it?
Man i know is hard and out of sense but can you do a very little search and tell my your opinion about this product: Amaya monster sandbag 45 kg,price 260€ 🙏
Thanks for the in depth review Coop! Always an honor to be featured on your channel. We are currently prototyping a kickstand, so stay tuned.
Hello! I am interested in this. Would this be compatible with the Oxylus Yoke from Rep?
Yes, it’ll fit any 3x3, 2x3 or 2x2 rack
If I remember correctly, you're original prototype had the kickstand and I thought your original build in wood was super cool.
if this comes out with a kickstand… I’ll buy immediately.
Do you know if this would fit a bells of steel 2.3 by 2.3 rack?
incase anyone is watching now. there is an option for a kickstand now
We have got to get belt squats into more people’s home gyms. Getting machines for the legs in the home gym is doable. More innovation needed.
Why are you so up on belt squat designs vs. just teaching more people to squat properly? Genuine question
@@PeterKeller247 mostly because it would allow for a different kind of stimulus for the body compared to a barbell squat. Belt squats allow you to load the legs without putting as much pressure on the spine. It would allow for a better sort of isolation. Barbell squats are still critical though but I want to see more variety to leg exercises that can be done in a home gym.
@@HypertrophyByDesign much thanks much love
Kick stand? Just link a heavy duty chain from top of the rack to your end of the lever arm+carribeaner and you can start in the top position. Unclip the carribeaner, then when you're done, reattach. You'll be in the standing squat position, the lever arm will be supported by the chain. Namaste x
I was lucky enough to grab one of these at the initial release. The build quality is amazing, and Fringe Sport identified an issue in a batch of their included belts (I noticed literally nothing wrong with the one I received...) and sent new belts out to everyone free of charge. In my opinion I think the instructions needed a little bit more work for what size sockets are required for assembly. I've used it a few times now and unfortunately I can't say that it's been great simply because of the lack of the kickstand. I've basically stopped using mine until that becomes an option. I've reached out and they said they are working on it as an add-on but I have not yet seen an ETA.
Awesome, thanks for the support! We are currently prototyping the kickstand. Hoping to get it released in the next couple months.
@@KaizenDIYGymhas the kickstand option become a thing since this post/comment?
@@sonofashepherd6668kickstand available now. Belt squat attachemnet on sale rn (4/24/24), only 10% off tho.
Gonna need a video on that new Titan Fitness SquatMax-MD Belt Squat collab Mr. Cooperino.
I built kaizens DIY version, it’s cool to see it built by a reputable company in a good looking durable format
Awesome!
I've watched a bunch of your videos, and I don't even have room for a garage gym. I really like your reviews.
Review the Elite FTS belt squat attachment. It comes with a SPUD inc belt for about $280. It needs a land mine and barbell to attach too, but works well for what it is.
That looks pretty great as I have a landmine and bar. But the cost for what you get is ridiculous. That’s about $50 worth of steel.
@@readyme agreed. I've been thinking about getting one but the price is too high for me
Another winning design from the mind of Kaizen DIY!
Thanks bro!
I ended up buying this. I have a 2" x 2" TDS squat rack that only has holes going from front to back. I don't have space to use this off to the side so I bought a 5/8 in drill bit and drilled a hole to mount it. Added a couple washers to make it fit tighter on the rack. I like it. Get it with the kickstand. It's well worth it.
I am 100% getting this for my Titan T3 Rack (Update) Got it with the kick stand and LOVE IT! I use it as a leg burnout exercise and back pulls to good effect.
Love the Squatmax MD. I have herniated discs and it has been a game changer. This would be a good option though for space and cost.
This one looks much better than the revolting model. I’d like to see something like this one, with a means of attaching to a horizontal cross member at the bottom rear of my cage. That way, I could use the cage for balance, etc. It would require a swivel joint for up and down movement. I would also like to see a version that I can use standard plates (1 inch center hole) with.
I attached their new kickstand. It took me about 5 minutes to attach. It makes a huge difference; although, the negative is that you have to move the weight peg up one hole which slightly reduces the true weight you are lifting. Also, Coop is right about increasing the arm length to reduce the swing angle. Overall, I am happy with the Belt Squat.
Originally got this to supplement my regular squats but since developing some back issues it's replaced my regular squats. If my back doesn't improve I may get a dedicated belt squat machine but this has been great to have.
Black Friday is live! Just ordered mine for 170, helluva deal!
Compare the EFTS landmine belt squat !
Personally i like the fts belt squat more.
Coop.....completely unrelated to this video, but seeing its your most recent I figured I'd post here. In a prior video you said you were going to do an in-depth video of the core home fitness adjustable dumbbells. I am trying to decide between Nordic Track select 55s and the core home fitness. Really appreciate all your videos and your opinion.
Thanks Paul
Just ordered this with the kickstand and new weight horn setup. Excited to add some squat variety. I’ll add price had nothing to do with my decision. It was simply that I don’t have the space for a larger dedicated belt squat machine.
Coop is finally throwing off the shackles of Rogue
Thanks for the shoutout! We aim to offer gym equipment at a super affordable price.
I unfortunately/fortunately have a T Bar stand for squats because of the ceiling hight in my basement but for whatever reason I enjoy watching all of your reviews.
Hey Coop, is there such a thing as a power rack attachment for standing calf raises?
Don't know of any attachments but a safety squat bar comes on handy for standing calf raises. It's great because you can hold on to the rack with your hands while the bar sits on your shoulders. I use a stepper for a calf board.
@GarageGymReviews Pro tip: using a Viking Press landmine attachment on the weight horn gives you some cheap handles.
You have the best equipment review channel on the net. Thank you
option to kickstand...consider a tow chain and hitch pinS connecting rack to mammoth.
We considered a similar set-up/solution. The problem with it is difficulty re-engaging this solution at the end of a set. Whereas the kickstand we are *almost* don with is easy and safe to use at the beginning of a set... and at the end
@@PeterKeller247 I’d much prefer a kickstand too. Saw the earlier kaizen post…lookin forward to it! Thx
Great information, thanks Coop.
Good idea about the kickstand.
Core Blaster belt squat attachment from EliteFTS?
Hey coop I’m trying to grow my home gym at 15 and I was wondering if you have any budget leg extensions prefances
Dang Coop, I had pretty much written off belt squats, but this has me interested again.
The BoS belt squat doesn't have protective plastic where it meets your squat racks uprights- otherwise i would have bought it. Might get this one and the dedicated wall mount! Thanks for the review
Thanks for reviewing this. I've been on the fence about adding it to my garage gym toolbox. You may have talked me into getting it.
Thank you Coop. The kickstand option is a must.
Look into Madewell Strength Belt squat its a cheaper alternative to a Sorinex J Squat.
It’s on the way!
@@KaizenDIYGymyou’ve been killing it recently with these collabs. Keep it up!
That adjustable length is nice
Hi love your reviews on stuff. On the fringe belt squat how do you feel about it for someone 6’3 ? I tried the Revolt and it sucks, limited range of motion
Just ordered. The kickstand is coming in February got 10% off too. No too bad.
Love the blue black wing on the background, can I have it coop! 😂 ✌️
Love these vids! If I have a Rep lat/low row would you suggest I get this over the Rep Belt Squat? They are doing a deal where the kickstand comes with for free right now!
They added the kickstand!!! Review do over please!
What about the gorila fitness belt squat?
Does anyone know a good channel like this that covers equipment available in Europe?
Do you have an in depth review of the Sorinex J squat? Would love to see that!
Thoughts on its use on the ForceUSA MyRack being that the uprights are 2.4"?
+1
It will work with that rack. There will just be a little bit of play in the mount. Or, if you hate that, grab the wall mount attachment and attach the wall mount to your rack and the belt squat to the wall mount
I have one of these and it's great. I also pre ordered the new kickstand which looks awesome. I guess they took your advice. I wonder if there Is a way to add another horn either on top or put 2 on the sides. Or maybe add a longer horn on top. I'm getting close to maxing it out. Any thoughts?
Is there a belt squat hack, piece of equipment, using a single stack pulley tower...that has a pulley that moves up and down???
Could you set this up under a spotter arm and use a strap to hold it up, then load the plates, attach the belt, then release the strap?
I always thought the best belt squat was just standing on two boxes when you dont have money for the squat max md
Coop can you please do a review for a cable fly add on attachment for the squat rack or seated calf raise add on been looking for these add good price
thanks for the video
Is this better than the rep fitness attachment
I love Fringe Sport
Dude, we love YOU
How does the Fringe Sport belt squat compare to the Rep Fitness belt squat attachment?
Hey Coop where’s the Major Lutie power rack review?
After seeing this, I want to start a series called "Hitch Receiver Gym Gear"
Can you review the sorinex J squat?
You should do a review on the EliteFTS Core Blaster Squat Attachment. It's the best deal going on a belt squat and it comes with a kickstand.
Would this work on a squat stand? Or is that not recommended?
thanks Coop
could you do the REP hades?
Would this fit on a REP PR-1100? I’m really thinking of going with this
Hello!
I am looking for a Belt like yours.
At Fringe Sport i have not found it.
Where can i buy a good one?
That portable one is a good idea I need that
Really wish you'd do some videos for us in the UK . Most the stuff you cover isn't available in the UK. 😢
Might be an opportunity for someone like yourself to become the UK's Coop?
@garagegym Hey Coop, did you ever update your videos or re-do them? It seems the company now offers a kickstand for $99. So, I guess they heard you
And... Fringe came out with a kickstand! 😀
If it also swiveled close to where it attached then you would not need a kickstand but could use a plyo box to set it on. Just another idea.
Coop we are all looking for cool add ons for our squat racks
What is felt load on this with a longer lever?
the problem with this style of belt squat is that you have to load a ton of plates to get enough resistance cause the lever isn't very long, and the weight is far away from the body and doesn't move much. I built something similar with some 2x4s and a metal pipe that attaches to pin safeties for like $50. I think these can be greatly improved by having a Y shaped design with 2 weight horns like the belt squat machines. It would be bigger, but it would be much better loading
Very good feedback! One benefit of our design is that the lever *is* quite a bit longer than the other options on the market. We made the design adjustable and modular to accommodate this. And as for the side mount weight horns, those are coming in the next few months and again, since the design is modular, they will fit the existing units on the market as an upgrade if needed.
I just modified my seated calf machine and it works awesome and the weights are close to your body 😃
What is the ‘felt’ load on this? On the revolt review it was stated at 60%. Because at max length this is longer is the felt load a greater percentage?
@@tkdhanani 90%
@@PeterKeller247 How are you calculating that? Based on this video it looks like the weight horn is about 2/3 of the way between the fulcrum and the attachment point, which would work out to around 67% load. Still much better than something like the Revolt, which is a terrible design, but 90% seems way off.
It looks interesting. Especially for us who are definitely limited on space. In a perfect world I'd have a Rhino but my 1 car garage ain't having it.
Nice!
Does this hold up a year later?
The link is not working. Does anyone know if there is a new link or promo link? Thanks!
A jack stand works well in the mean time
Your production value has improved so much in the last few years! Great lighting, great set, camera angles, and great delivery.
Titan version of Squatmax review 👀
Need kick stand option for sure.
It is currently in the works!
Anyone use this with the PRX folding rack ? Seems like the pivot points will get in the way.
I just bought this specifically because you can get a kickstand now and it totally fits my needs. The instructions aren't the best, but that's my biggest complaint.
If you want to save money and do the exercise what the bronze era and silver era used
Get two boxes of equal height, stand on the box with a weight dip belt,
what about the elite fts one
What do you think about this belt squat vs the rep fitness one?
I'll give you the biased opinion (since I work for Fringe). The Rep option is a great piece of engineering, and I think generally priced OK assuming you have all the other gear that you need. The Rep option also has 2 big advantages going for it- 1:1 weight and a true vertical plane of motion. That said, A) You need the Rep rack and weight stack already to attach it to, B) I bet install and having it attached to your rack is cumbersome and C) it still suffers from the "kickstand" problem, with a solution to this problem much harder to address. With our design, we focused on interoperability (works with ALL racks or even just a wall), ease of install and tear-down (so you are not limiting your rack when not in use) and space efficiency, while delivering all this at a VERY approachable price. LHLH Lift Heavy Lift Happy!
Love all the features! Going to be waiting for cheaper version without bumpers and belt since I have those already.
I would love to get a belt squat, but the back and forth movement worries me. IMO, the point to getting a belt squat is to be able to do heavy reps with less chance of injury than having bar up on top of your spine. More weight, less risk. But if you are pushing yourself (say, in the three rep range) it seems to me even a little back and forth movement would pose a serious risk of injury. I don't see that addressed in any videos on these things. You don't see someone doing 300 lbs. on it, for example.
I have loaded to 300+ pounds and lifted on it. You'll be fine
You need to review the new SquatMax By Titan Fitness!
Does it fit a 2x2?
If the longer the lever is the best for belt squats, why not just use an Olympic bar with weights in a landmine with a single handle attached to it so you can hook a chain to it?
An option to add a kickstand has been added as of today 11/28/2023
Let's talk about that seamless weight belt catch.
Doesn't ship to Canada, now I'm sad
Well 1st I do not start squads from the lowest point. 2nd I miss security measurements...3rd not much space for weight plates....
put a boat trailer stand on it with swivels and you have a kick stand
Man i know is hard and out of sense but can you do a very little search and tell my your opinion about this product: Amaya monster sandbag 45 kg,price 260€ 🙏
I have one on the way
This needs a kickstand that swings forward or out to the side.
Kick Stand you could do on your own pretty cheap
This week you get the kickstand free!
2024. Kickstand is now included!
KICKSTAND !!!
I’m testing out the prototype this weekend. Stay tuned!