The push kick majors on momentum, which the powerkube doesn't measure. Easiest way to see the difference is just try the different kicks on a heavy bag and see which swings it the most.
Everyone knows Force = mass x acceleration but people forget impact force is kinetic energy over the distance travelled. From both equations you can see the biggest difference between the teep vs the front snap kick would most likely be the speed generated at impact
i have a sidekick that is like a "turn snap sidekick" basically frontchamber and you snap pivot and thrust at the same time so that is as fast as a normal front kick but it has no blind spots.
my sensei's naming conventions for these kicks might help -Front Push kick: Horizontal path of attack, flat of foot at contact, then push with toe: heel-toe-push. meant to control distance and can push foe back, or push yourself back off of foe. (low/mod risk) -Front Heel kick: aka Sparta kick, aka Shield Kick/Stomp: horizontal path of attack, flat foot contact, but favoring the heel, (meant to both hurt and make space). can break ribs, solar plexus KO, make space, or even topple foe... or even all of the above... (low/mod risk) -Front Spear kick: Horizontal path of attack, just the ball makes contact, driven deep, less speed than the Snap Kick, More Damage, less push back, meant to crush organs/break ribs (any power pushing them back isn't crushing their organs/breaking ribs) -Front Snap kick: aka Karate Kick; Vertical or hybrid path of attack, strikes with ball (toes pulled up/back) or "laces" (top, toes curled down) of foot. Groin kick. gut kick that drives guts up into the ribcage (attacking the diaphragm even if you miss the solar plexus) or the chin for a KO, but with the risks of any head kick This was a Karate style and this differentiation isn't always necessary (you COULD just call them ALL a Teep or even a Chassé, for historical reasons))... but we separated them, which can be conceptually useful imo
I’m a Uechi Ryu Karate Do South American practicioner since the 80’s and I want to say: Congratulations for the excellent content of this channel, WB! 👋👋
Great stuff! From a Kukkiwon Taekwondo perspective, the techniques are: 1) Front Push Kick / Mireo Ap Chagi / 밀어 앞 차기 2) Front Kick / Ap Chagi / 앞 차기 3) Front Foot Side Kick / Ap Bal Yeop Chagi / 앞 발 옆 차기 (sometimes called Lead Side Kick) 4) Fast Side Kick / Ppaleun Bal Yeop Chagi / 빠른 발 옆 차기 (sometimes called Sliding Side Kick or Skipping Side Kick) 5) Turning Side Kick / Dwi Dora Yeop Chagi / 뒤 돌아 옆 차기 옆 차기 (sometimes called Back Side Kick) *** *** Not to be confused with the technique of Back Kick / Dwi Chagi / 뒤 차기 - while some people don't make the distinction, a Back Turning Side Kick is a different technique than a Back Kick (sometimes called Spinning Side Kick and Spinning Back Kick but in my opinion neither technique are spins, they're dorsal turning movements). Happy to see WB's foot healed up! I'd like to see you guys compare your Back Turning Side Kick to your Back Kick.
Imagine if someone picks up a street fight with that bigger guy just assuming him a dad bod and after just one front kick his soul will realise the mistake
The side kick can reach an opponent further away since your leg is extended completely aslo easier to hit under thier high guard like under the chin area while the front kick has the knee at an angle
One thing I've noticed with the Powerkube videos (which could just be BS) is the speed and duration of the impact. Not in this video, but another one you guys filmed with about 5 guys total. There was one guy that was firing off his punch as soon as the machine was ready(I don't know if this helped him at all, just part of the observation) what he was doing was his speed was pretty good ( I don't know that he was the fastest) but I did notice that his time on target was shortest. It was impact, then snapping it back. Whereas some people would linger on the target, doing the old punch through and not worry about the reset, because it's a one punch machine. The guy was scoring pretty high, but he didn't look like he was hitting any harder than WB. It just made me curious. Lastly I wonder if it is displaying your peak power, or if it's displaying the average power of that punch. If it's the average power then the time on target would make way more sense if your peak is 100k,but your punch is a longer duration, you're not going to see anywhere near 100k on the readout of average power through the entirety of contact. I would assume it's a peak readout though. Just some interesting things I'd play around with to see how the machine functions if I were y'all. Could be why Alex Pereira shatter Ngannou's punch record at the Apex, I don't see Alex actually being a heavier hitter than Francis, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I beleive the cube is pressure based. So force over a larger area will output a lower score. And to your point, a more drawn out impact creates less peak pressure as the unit compresses. W.B. should make a video about interpreting power cube results.
I would have liked to see you guys throw fully extended Side kicks. it would be interesting to see how the machine evalutes those. If the powercube is too sturdy, take a step back in order to get full extention. Also, it looks like you guys hit with too much of the foot.
some karate guys or taekwondo guys also do the roundhouse kick with the ball of foot instead of the shin. SO maybe you can make this test ? which roundhouse kick is more powerful? the back of foot ? the shin? or the ball of foot?
How about you try a snapping side kick like Super Foot Wallace? I caught a guy once just throwing that relaxed and speedy in the gut and he went down like a sack of potates. Lift that knee high and use that front leg hip rotation to line it up...
I’m a big side kick fan. And always wonder why it gets such a bad rap. However I see when people use it, it works. I definitely didn’t expect the snapping side kick to score that high. And I did expect the high score on the side kick.
I have a mma question I was hoping you could answer why don’t we see backfists more often and I don’t mean the spinning variant. Does as much damage as a jab would so I don’t see why it isn’t used more.
I practice jeet kune do, and do sparring almost every session. I like using back fists often. It’s not about damage (and we spar light), but it’s fast, and comes from unexpected angles.
I felt that horsekick (like a spinning sidekick but you kick with your back towards your opponent, toes down heel up) was faster, harder and less telegraphed than the spinning sidekick. Bitch to aim though. Cheers
On the stomp kick, neither of yall hit the center of the pad with your heel or the ball of the foot(push kick-ball of foot/stomp kick-heel of foot) so you ended up with the arch of your feet at the sensor with most of your force on the top and bottom. Not an accurate sample because they weren't accurate kicks. I feel the same way about the way yall threw the sidekicks. Not really hitting the center with your heel and possibly being a little too close to the pad. Definitely too close on the spinning side kick. You're only getting the power from the body rotation there and not the follow through.
What data does the power kube measures and how does that become the number? Without that we can't take conclusions from it. Its just a marketing machine
I once put a debt in a car fender with a spin kick. The driver (drunk) ran over my toe as I was crossing the street in the crosswalk. She (or, her car anyway) had it coming. She jumped out of the car, followed by her two Russian bouncer-type friends . . . I thought "well - this is it . . . " She walked up to me - and (without a word) sucker punched me in the jaw. I didn't flinch (it wasn't that powerful). But, I didn't respond either. 'Cuz I knew what was coming next if I did. Anyhoo . . . Spin kicks do damage Look both ways Avoid Russian bouncers
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I did NOT expect the snapping front kick to be higher than the pushing one. Wild
That was a surprise to us as well! Gotta get you in on the next test!!
The pushing front kick most likely has more power for most, but over a slightly longer period of time.
The push kick majors on momentum, which the powerkube doesn't measure. Easiest way to see the difference is just try the different kicks on a heavy bag and see which swings it the most.
Everyone knows Force = mass x acceleration but people forget impact force is kinetic energy over the distance travelled. From both equations you can see the biggest difference between the teep vs the front snap kick would most likely be the speed generated at impact
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We need the trio , Sensei Seth needs to be a regular
Wonder boy the real karate kid
i have a sidekick that is like a "turn snap sidekick" basically frontchamber and you snap pivot and thrust at the same time so that is as fast as a normal front kick but it has no blind spots.
my sensei's naming conventions for these kicks might help
-Front Push kick: Horizontal path of attack, flat of foot at contact, then push with toe: heel-toe-push. meant to control distance and can push foe back, or push yourself back off of foe. (low/mod risk)
-Front Heel kick: aka Sparta kick, aka Shield Kick/Stomp: horizontal path of attack, flat foot contact, but favoring the heel, (meant to both hurt and make space). can break ribs, solar plexus KO, make space, or even topple foe... or even all of the above... (low/mod risk)
-Front Spear kick: Horizontal path of attack, just the ball makes contact, driven deep, less speed than the Snap Kick, More Damage, less push back, meant to crush organs/break ribs (any power pushing them back isn't crushing their organs/breaking ribs)
-Front Snap kick: aka Karate Kick; Vertical or hybrid path of attack, strikes with ball (toes pulled up/back) or "laces" (top, toes curled down) of foot. Groin kick. gut kick that drives guts up into the ribcage (attacking the diaphragm even if you miss the solar plexus) or the chin for a KO, but with the risks of any head kick
This was a Karate style and this differentiation isn't always necessary (you COULD just call them ALL a Teep or even a Chassé, for historical reasons))... but we separated them, which can be conceptually useful imo
I’m a Uechi Ryu Karate Do South American practicioner since the 80’s and I want to say: Congratulations for the excellent content of this channel, WB! 👋👋
Great stuff! From a Kukkiwon Taekwondo perspective, the techniques are:
1) Front Push Kick / Mireo Ap Chagi / 밀어 앞 차기
2) Front Kick / Ap Chagi / 앞 차기
3) Front Foot Side Kick / Ap Bal Yeop Chagi / 앞 발 옆 차기 (sometimes called Lead Side Kick)
4) Fast Side Kick / Ppaleun Bal Yeop Chagi / 빠른 발 옆 차기 (sometimes called Sliding Side Kick or Skipping Side Kick)
5) Turning Side Kick / Dwi Dora Yeop Chagi / 뒤 돌아 옆 차기 옆 차기 (sometimes called Back Side Kick) ***
*** Not to be confused with the technique of Back Kick / Dwi Chagi / 뒤 차기 - while some people don't make the distinction, a Back Turning Side Kick is a different technique than a Back Kick (sometimes called Spinning Side Kick and Spinning Back Kick but in my opinion neither technique are spins, they're dorsal turning movements).
Happy to see WB's foot healed up!
I'd like to see you guys compare your Back Turning Side Kick to your Back Kick.
Kudos for calling it “Kukkiwon Taekwondo” and not “WT Taekwondo”.
Hey Stephen, I just want to say I love what you do for the community! Thank you so much!
I’d like to see what numbers axe kicks and crescent kicks can put up. As well as elbows vs punches.
Awesome video to watch,thank you
You guys are incredible 🎉
Thanks for the video
Love your content WB! You're the goat!
Guru can't run from Sweet T forever...
another banger by the best striker that has ever lived !🔥🔥🔥
These two bros are my favs on the interwebs! LOL
Very nice! Axe kick and tornado kick plz
Wonderboy's side kick is a thing of beauty ❤
I just lovea these boyza.
What happened with the jumping kicks 😉 seriously, great content, you guys are awesome 👊
Spinning wheel kick next!
Imagine if someone picks up a street fight with that bigger guy just assuming him a dad bod and after just one front kick his soul will realise the mistake
Bust out them hooks, axe, and crescents!
Axe Kick!! Hook Kick, Crescent Kick? Wanna see how the TKD style kicks do
Thanks
The side kick can reach an opponent further away since your leg is extended completely aslo easier to hit under thier high guard like under the chin area while the front kick has the knee at an angle
Biomechanically you use more muscle fibers when performing a side kick therefore it produces more power
Can you do punch vs kick power?
Love you champ
Don't you give away some of the energy when you kick from such a close distance?
Btw - great video!
Can you test the side kick shotokan style? I’ve seen them snapping it folding from the thigh, I’d be curious to see how it scores.
Try resident evil 4 Leon kicks 💪🏻 thanks WB
One thing I've noticed with the Powerkube videos (which could just be BS) is the speed and duration of the impact. Not in this video, but another one you guys filmed with about 5 guys total. There was one guy that was firing off his punch as soon as the machine was ready(I don't know if this helped him at all, just part of the observation) what he was doing was his speed was pretty good ( I don't know that he was the fastest) but I did notice that his time on target was shortest. It was impact, then snapping it back. Whereas some people would linger on the target, doing the old punch through and not worry about the reset, because it's a one punch machine. The guy was scoring pretty high, but he didn't look like he was hitting any harder than WB. It just made me curious. Lastly I wonder if it is displaying your peak power, or if it's displaying the average power of that punch. If it's the average power then the time on target would make way more sense if your peak is 100k,but your punch is a longer duration, you're not going to see anywhere near 100k on the readout of average power through the entirety of contact. I would assume it's a peak readout though. Just some interesting things I'd play around with to see how the machine functions if I were y'all. Could be why Alex Pereira shatter Ngannou's punch record at the Apex, I don't see Alex actually being a heavier hitter than Francis, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I beleive the cube is pressure based. So force over a larger area will output a lower score. And to your point, a more drawn out impact creates less peak pressure as the unit compresses. W.B. should make a video about interpreting power cube results.
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What about punches? Which is stronger? Hook, overhand or straight punch?
I would have liked to see you guys throw fully extended Side kicks. it would be interesting to see how the machine evalutes those. If the powercube is too sturdy, take a step back in order to get full extention.
Also, it looks like you guys hit with too much of the foot.
what is the difference between a sparta kick and a teep?
Shawn Michaels had put so many to sleep using Sweet Chin music. So side kick is the king! MMA fighters can learn a thing or two from him. /s
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Fights can actually be entirely avoided w regular kick backs
It would be interesting to see the power of a defensive side kick.
Could sweet T run at you with it while you D Side it?
some karate guys or taekwondo guys also do the roundhouse kick with the ball of foot instead of the shin.
SO maybe you can make this test ? which roundhouse kick is more powerful? the back of foot ? the shin? or the ball of foot?
That’s a great idea
That’s a great idea
Gotta get that to wonderboy
I love you so much ❤❤❤
what about the side teep? i wonder if that would be stronger than the push kick, karate front kick and regular side kick
How about you try a snapping side kick like Super Foot Wallace? I caught a guy once just throwing that relaxed and speedy in the gut and he went down like a sack of potates. Lift that knee high and use that front leg hip rotation to line it up...
Flying shit next please
You should invite a Taekwondo Black Belt to test those and other kicks with you!
And Houston Jones as the test subject.
@@ronfhs58 monkey fist vs sidekick
@@ronfhs58isn’t old HBones a black belt in taekwondo? So two birds one stone
How about a lead leg front kick
I’m a big side kick fan. And always wonder why it gets such a bad rap. However I see when people use it, it works. I definitely didn’t expect the snapping side kick to score that high. And I did expect the high score on the side kick.
How come you didn't do the Yoko Geri/Side Kick with the blade of the foot?
Side kicks require a lot of flexibility and training front kicks are easier
Max Holloway!!!
Switch side off back foot to the hip.
regular rear kick and roundhouse kick?
Folks forgetting about Cung Le? His sidekick (Sanda Kungfu) was devastating.
Any reliability data regarding the Power kube?
Lorenz Larkin's kick he learned watching Kangaroos box in shaolin Austrailia is the strongest straight kick
And WB made a video to that.
I have a mma question I was hoping you could answer why don’t we see backfists more often and I don’t mean the spinning variant. Does as much damage as a jab would so I don’t see why it isn’t used more.
I practice jeet kune do, and do sparring almost every session. I like using back fists often. It’s not about damage (and we spar light), but it’s fast, and comes from unexpected angles.
Karate Counter Punch vs MMA punch vs American Kempo Punch vs Boxing Punch, Vs Wing Chun Punch, Call Jesse KArate Nerd!!! XD OSU!
Wonderboy, do you have random people that just show up to your gym trying to meet you? I would imagine that happens frequently.
Sweet T has a smooth lookin side kick.....😂
What is everyone’s favorite kick? Mines by far the spinning hook.
Could Bruce Lee sidekick be used to the thigh?
Moral of the story, if Sweet T is after u, run for your life & hope he gets too tired to catch u. If he does catch u, r.i.p. 😂
I like to call the push kick the "Chael Sonnen" cause I CAN'T LET YOU GET CLOSE TO ME!
We need wb on mighty mouse podcast
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*When is Wonder boy going to come out it's 2024.*
is wonderboy fighting again in the ufc?
'sup with that gut?
I felt that horsekick (like a spinning sidekick but you kick with your back towards your opponent, toes down heel up) was faster, harder and less telegraphed than the spinning sidekick. Bitch to aim though.
Cheers
If Steven Seagal showed these boys the proper technique...1,000,000 easy
WB! YOUR TUMMY IS LOOKING BIGGER THAN MINE WHAT THE HECK?!?
The teep vs front snap kick is surprising but then again id much rather get teeped than take a clean front snap kick to the gut
A Teep is NOT a push kick.
On the stomp kick, neither of yall hit the center of the pad with your heel or the ball of the foot(push kick-ball of foot/stomp kick-heel of foot) so you ended up with the arch of your feet at the sensor with most of your force on the top and bottom. Not an accurate sample because they weren't accurate kicks. I feel the same way about the way yall threw the sidekicks. Not really hitting the center with your heel and possibly being a little too close to the pad. Definitely too close on the spinning side kick. You're only getting the power from the body rotation there and not the follow through.
The tru value would be max power output with the least amount of effort. Wonderboy sidekick is the master of efficiency.
Thai style push kick they turn hip more
Sweet T getting cocky, lucky him his Big bro is the undisputed NMF
Where are the mawashis???
Note to self: don't get kicked by T.
Thanks Guy’s
Side kick easy to read, spinning kick is best
Test these guys for thc
What data does the power kube measures and how does that become the number? Without that we can't take conclusions from it. Its just a marketing machine
just for fun, but scorpion kick! I broke a 2in pine board with a scorpion kick and it was not easy at the time.
When you do the Bruce Lee Sidekick, you have to let out a scream "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
wow
The best side kick is obviously Sweet T
You met Jack Black?!
I once put a debt in a car fender with a spin kick. The driver (drunk) ran over my toe as I was crossing the street in the crosswalk.
She (or, her car anyway) had it coming.
She jumped out of the car, followed by her two Russian bouncer-type friends . . .
I thought "well - this is it . . . "
She walked up to me - and (without a word) sucker punched me in the jaw. I didn't flinch (it wasn't that powerful). But, I didn't respond either. 'Cuz I knew what was coming next if I did.
Anyhoo . . .
Spin kicks do damage
Look both ways
Avoid Russian bouncers
Silva learned his front kick from tkd. Bruce Lee learned his side kick from tkd guy jhoon rhee
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Sorry Wonder boy and Sweet T the most impressive thing here is at 5:24 Jack Black being able to get a kick that high😲😲😲😲👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣
Sweet side to your lead hip would stop your forward, sec.
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Need a punching bag plz plz plz
I would not want to fight Sweet T!
Before I watch, I'll say "the one that works"
Although I think side kick can have so much power if trained properly.
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Test Elbows!!!
I did not know Silva and machida kicked the same person that's hilarious. He learned nothing the first time
Spin sidekick or turning sidekick? Thoughts?