@@DanceWithRasa - It's not about the MCs, just way too many groups are allowed to perform on Saturday nights. There used to be an expectation that Saturdays were reserved for only the best groups....but now the Congress organizers don't want to turn away *any* group who is willing to pay for performers passes, regardless of the group's skill level. 🫤
I feel like I had a lot to say on this subject but then you pretty much said everything I was thinking :) Acrobatics are impressive but I do feel like sometimes they do it so much it takes away from the dance. It's like they are so focused on the tricks sometimes that they lose the connection and the musicality to an extent. The tricks overpower the dancing. That applies to pretty much every style of dance. Completely agree with you, if you can tell me a story and draw me in with that story I'll probably enjoy that dance more from less experienced dancers than I would enjoy a dance that is technically perfect but doesn't connect each part well. If you were to take a show like so you think you can dance, some of the dances I liked the best on it, they didn't do a single crazy trick. They told an interesting story.
After a coupe of decades i put it down to this: For Show priority is entertainment, energy in which case go the super sayian level For competition they have certain thing's they want see, and often remind ppl its not about tricks. For social, i agree with the story comments, hence why from mement offer hand to escorts of the Dance floor i give an experience. Point is stuff good in show not always good in social, stuff good in social not always good in show
Sometimes acrobatics do look tacky and feel unauthentic, and some perhaps even a status symbol: A back flip has to be put in to tell the audience "this is out of your reach, we're above your standard". (Which in my case, it would be.)
The same thing happens everywhere, specially in music. It starts with simple cool things and gradually it evolves to exclusivity. Then comes a new style with the same development. It happens because we get bored without changes and bettering. have you checked the 6/8 rhythm?
Acrobatics create a “wow” effect and tend to sell well. We are in the social media era, and eye-catching tricks serve as effective hooks. In the bachata scene, some couples even repeat the same acrobatic moves in every post-workshop demo. Meanwhile, Generation Z, with its shorter attention span, places less importance on consistent messaging and more on emotional impact. As a result, we can expect to see this trend continue to grow in the future.
In the Bachata Scene it's getting even worse, they starts doing a lot of Magic Mike things in shows, I know it might have its' audience, but for me it's cringy af.
@@andrzejsawoniewicz8715 Bachata is thriving now, it's merging a lot of other dances, salsa haven't experienced this in a long while. So this kind of fusion is not surprised to me, just donno if it will or should truly be a part of the dance in the long run, the market will tell.
I’ll be honest. I’ve mostly found performances boring and maybe that’s because they look the same. Occasionally, there will be one or two that I’ve been impressed by. One performance inspired me to join a class. I wasn’t expecting it to be so good, but most of the time, if I can, I avoid events with performances because I want to dance instead. At a big event, I can’t avoid them, but I find them a good way to break up the dancing and have a drink break while I watch, so that’s nice. I’m also happy to go and support my classmates if they’re performing, but that’s it.
They are the same; the music, the costumes, and the choreo. I don’t want to sit for 2-3 hours watching that. I think that the performances at the congresses should be limited to the advanced dancers. The beginner and intermediate dancers should be for the socials.
When i am a judge in dance competitions, i even give a lower score those who shows too much acrobatics in choreo and write comments to them: it's should be dancing - not gimnastics!)
I dont like the shows, especially actobatics. I know ignorant people are impressed by acrobatics, but that is not dance. In professional latin and ballroom competitions all lifts are forbidden!!!
The problem is that they are too long. If you pay big money just for the Saturday night you are missing out on dance time.
@evertondod I completely understand that, definitely too long , part of it is too much talking from mc. Shows not thar long it's all the extra 🙄
@@DanceWithRasa - It's not about the MCs, just way too many groups are allowed to perform on Saturday nights. There used to be an expectation that Saturdays were reserved for only the best groups....but now the Congress organizers don't want to turn away *any* group who is willing to pay for performers passes, regardless of the group's skill level. 🫤
@big10 there's a lot of thurth to that too 😉
I feel like I had a lot to say on this subject but then you pretty much said everything I was thinking :)
Acrobatics are impressive but I do feel like sometimes they do it so much it takes away from the dance. It's like they are so focused on the tricks sometimes that they lose the connection and the musicality to an extent. The tricks overpower the dancing. That applies to pretty much every style of dance. Completely agree with you, if you can tell me a story and draw me in with that story I'll probably enjoy that dance more from less experienced dancers than I would enjoy a dance that is technically perfect but doesn't connect each part well. If you were to take a show like so you think you can dance, some of the dances I liked the best on it, they didn't do a single crazy trick. They told an interesting story.
@@FFOndra I completely agree with you, and I love that show !
Thank you Rasa❤❤❤❤
@@juratepetrikauskiene9908 💗💗💗
Thank you for sharing this important message and totally agree with some of the comments as well!
@@majsaallelin6469 thank you for watching and commenting 🙏
Definitely!!!
Too much acrobacy!!!
Sick and tired of the current state of affairs of the social dancing scene🤔
@@uniVersalMarcosInc 👍👍👍
After a coupe of decades i put it down to this:
For Show priority is entertainment, energy in which case go the super sayian level
For competition they have certain thing's they want see, and often remind ppl its not about tricks.
For social, i agree with the story comments, hence why from mement offer hand to escorts of the Dance floor i give an experience.
Point is stuff good in show not always good in social, stuff good in social not always good in show
Sometimes acrobatics do look tacky and feel unauthentic, and some perhaps even a status symbol: A back flip has to be put in to tell the audience "this is out of your reach, we're above your standard". (Which in my case, it would be.)
@@sidstam 😉😉
The same thing happens everywhere, specially in music. It starts with simple cool things and gradually it evolves to exclusivity. Then comes a new style with the same development. It happens because we get bored without changes and bettering.
have you checked the 6/8 rhythm?
Acrobatics create a “wow” effect and tend to sell well. We are in the social media era, and eye-catching tricks serve as effective hooks. In the bachata scene, some couples even repeat the same acrobatic moves in every post-workshop demo. Meanwhile, Generation Z, with its shorter attention span, places less importance on consistent messaging and more on emotional impact. As a result, we can expect to see this trend continue to grow in the future.
@@andrzejsawoniewicz8715 I really hope so 🙏
In the Bachata Scene it's getting even worse, they starts doing a lot of Magic Mike things in shows, I know it might have its' audience, but for me it's cringy af.
@@rayscher to be honest one of the speciality of bachata is to fusion with everything. But I know what do you mean.
@@andrzejsawoniewicz8715 Bachata is thriving now, it's merging a lot of other dances, salsa haven't experienced this in a long while. So this kind of fusion is not surprised to me, just donno if it will or should truly be a part of the dance in the long run, the market will tell.
@rayscher sooo true
I’ll be honest. I’ve mostly found performances boring and maybe that’s because they look the same. Occasionally, there will be one or two that I’ve been impressed by. One performance inspired me to join a class. I wasn’t expecting it to be so good, but most of the time, if I can, I avoid events with performances because I want to dance instead.
At a big event, I can’t avoid them, but I find them a good way to break up the dancing and have a drink break while I watch, so that’s nice. I’m also happy to go and support my classmates if they’re performing, but that’s it.
@@Mizuyah that's exactly what I mean 😉
They are the same; the music, the costumes, and the choreo. I don’t want to sit for 2-3 hours watching that. I think that the performances at the congresses should be limited to the advanced dancers. The beginner and intermediate dancers should be for the socials.
When i am a judge in dance competitions, i even give a lower score those who shows too much acrobatics in choreo and write comments to them: it's should be dancing - not gimnastics!)
There's usually a limit on how many they can do 😉.
Not really, most of the Indacochea shows and their many copy cats are basically a typical shines class. Not many acrobatics there.
Only reason there is acrobatics is because that is only way to impress normies.
@@Tespri 👌
Rasa!! Please please can you help me train my splits? I will pay you!!
@pookiewookie9167 Of course, it's actually easy. All we need is consistency 😉. Send me an email salsawithrasa@gmail.com we can talk 😇
I dont like the shows, especially actobatics. I know ignorant people are impressed by acrobatics, but that is not dance. In professional latin and ballroom competitions all lifts are forbidden!!!
@georgesmith3022 very true !