"End of side one. To continue, turn the cassette over" - H.P. Lovecraft In all seriousness, thanks so much for uploading. I listen to one of these lovecraft stories every night.
Woo... That is one of the creepiest descents into madness I have ever read/heard. I love how his speech degrades at the end, like he's going through the different eras of horror that happened in that place. Simply awesome
So i was listening to this when I was about half asleep, and I decided to shut my eyes to really absorb it at about 37:00. I wake up at 45:00 and I never want to shut my eyes again. This is true horror the way it is meant to be told.
Comrade Wallace I love Lovecraft so much...his writing style holds your imagination and never lets go. I still have nightmares from some of the stories of his I’ve read. Nothing too intense, but lots of things that mimic The Outsider, Rats in the Walls, and the Colour out of Space. I just wake up with this weird feeling and need to take a minute to tell myself they’re just dreams. No other horror movies or writers have achieved this with me. You don’t need gore or jump scares to make good horror.
I fall asleep to this story at least once a week, haven't had a single dream about demonic swine herders in subterranean caverns littered with human bones yet; and I am both relieved and mildly disappointed by that fact.
When you watch this video, you can put a bookmark in a simple way. If you watched till 2 minutes and 30 seconds, then simply leave a comment of 02:30 and RUclips automatically creates a link serving as your private bookmark. Also, for long videos, let's say you listened till 2 hours and 33 minutes and 44 seconds, then simply leave a comment of 02:33:44. And when you comeback to the video, simply click the comment/link you left last time. Hope this helps!
Im currently listening to the Gulag Archipelago, atm. This comment will literally save me hours of time as each part is between 7 and 11 hours long and losing my place is really annoying! Thank you so much!
@Wario DS Dude, you pull your food out of dumpsters. You want to start mocking people for their dietary choices, real or imagined, my only suggestion is that you take down all those videos first. Kinda setting yourself up to look like a complete joke with that line of attack.
20:00 "End of side one; to continue, turn the cassette over." *flips cassette* "Side two; Tales of HP Lovecraft, by HP Lovecraft. Continuing with The Rats In The Walls, on page 21."
This is Lovecraft at his best here, in top form. A classic non-mythos story in the tradition of Edgar Allan Poe, but stylistically superior and far more understanding of the depth and breadth of the unknown, that black chasm that lays forever just beyond the supposedly firm ground upon which we've based our world.
Thank you for all your work on uploading these amazing stories! If it weren't for you I'd be so bored. I listen to one every night before bed and recently I listen to one throughout the day too, thak you thank you thank you a thousand times sir!
blackmetalmagick1 I'm glad that you like my humble channel! I'll keep doing my best to make my channel interesting and intellectually stimulating. Cheers!
Subscribed! I just found this channel yesterday and i'm addicted to it and the knowledge it contains. Thank you for taking the time to post these important videos.
39:30 "..hunger, or RAT-FEAR!.." 38:35 "I wonder that any man among us lived, and kept his sanity through that hideous day of discovery... ...events that must have taken place here 300 years, or a thousand, or two thousand, or TEN thousand years ago..." -so damn 'Lovecraft' ^ _ ^
Underrated Lovecraft short story,and frankly one of his best. It's clearly patterened after Edgar Allan Poe's stories, but with Lovecraft's own style added to it. (Though I disagree with other commentators that it's stylistically superior. It's more accesibile, which shouldn't be confused with automatically being better.) Great choice for a narrator.
I've got one for HP. I had the old house caulked, buttoned up and repainted. Now all the bugs are imprisoned in the walls and they have no choice but to come inside! AAAHHH!!!!
I don't care about Lovecraft's racism. That doesn't take the horror from his work. The work being my only interest. I can pick up on descriptions like "hatefully negroid" or "hints of voodooism". They don't concern me or my skin.
Desolate Hound good it shouldn't. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The content of character is what matters. Skin color should only matter if you're the sun...
Lovecraft was a xenophobic and cynical man, but that's why he wrote such good horror. I have no problem with the racism in his writing, because it's always given blatantly by the perspective of the character who are typically insane men anyway.
@@orkunakman1541 I find that really hard to believe. He comes across as a soft racist compared to the lynch mob kind of white people from that same Era.
Well he was harshly abused by his mother and raised in suburban New England, he hated and feared everything that wasnt his locked attic of hus childhood
VejyMonsta so... By your estimate all racists are “insane”? Funny, it’s been my finding that so-called “racists” are typically of a far higher intellectual capacity than the sheeple who follow the norms of the rest of the room temperature IQ herd, bleating against such things as “racism”. Which by all accounts is a very basic human defense mechanism to keep away from that which is different. Why do you think there ARE different races and cultures in the first place? It’s not just to geography.
Yeah it seems to go back chronologically through Early Modern English to Old English (Anglo-Saxon) to Latin, Celtic and then to Rlyeh speech. If I saw the text from the book i could probably say for sure
Dude, I know I've said it before but your voice. it's perfect for reading Lovecraft. Ever considered doing professional voicework? anything from narrating full novels by Stephen king or maybe as a voice actor in films? you have talent, at least I think so.
It's not the uploaders voice, it's the reader for the National Archives, that's why it says turn the tape over for side 2. It's only the National archives Visual disables section of cassette tapes.
I love this video thanks alot reading thing bores me but I really want to read more but having audiobooks and following along helps me alot thanks for the video bud. On a side note I'm glad to see Noone is really offended by the cats name and hope it stays that way if not just say black-man cause it's not hurting Noone
People told me you don't notice Lovecraft's racism in his stories unless you know his real life views... Between this and Call of Cthulhu I'm calling bullshit. Cringed each time the cats name came up
The Van Gogh of horror fiction.Anyone else think of "The people under the stairs" after reading this? Not a very good movie, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wes Craven was influenced by "Rats" when he wrote it.
I think because of my add I have a hard time understanding everything and paying attention but I really do appreciate it anyway. I love everything lovecraftian. (also english is my second language so that might have something to do with it.
limern777 Lovecraft can be difficult for native speakers. Like Shakespeare, it has a unique beautiful poetry to it, in how he describes cosmic horror. He exercises his extraordinary vocabulary probably too much for his own financial good during his life, but it’s in that uniqueness his work will last through the generations.
I fell in love with this author 12 years ago, read everything, watched all the games , you name it. Yes I have noticed his racism and awful distaste for anyone that isn’t as smart as the main character. Like there is a superiority complex so strong in so many of his main characters , and that’s what really bothers me. I’m black and the racism is kinda like, “ ok that’s how he was.” But for me , the way he looks down on people , that’s what’s really disgusting. Read “The Temple”. It’s almost unreadable up until everyone else is dead. You seriously cannot do a series of diatribes about how superior your blood line is and how no one around you stacks up to you intelligence wise and belittle their ethnic heritage.
@@maxscherzer9521 kind of a joke maybe not an appropriate one but when I first read the cats name I died laughing after triple checking he actually wrote what I was reading.
...and yet, Mark Twain is a literary hero for gratuitous use of racial slurs in "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"? No, its a good example of socially acceptable vernacular for the era. Get over the cats name, try to enjoy the meat and potatoes.
Twain is no less guilty of the racism that gripped his era. But we confront Twain's racism in school studies because it is important to do so. With Lovecraft, who was exceptionally racist even for men of his time, we try to make excuses and refuse to confront his malformed beliefs. Both men are geniuses, but one enjoys a stalwart and misguided defense that he doesn't deserve.
He later expressed regret for those beliefs. Or is that making excuses? Regardless I would say that counters your claim "refuse to confront his malformed beliefs".
'But we confront Twain's racism...' Jesus Christ....Huck Finn is a book waging for racial equality...it's principal light-skinned character rejects slavery and his best friend is dark-skinned the way people talked back then is the way people talked--Twain is famous for attention to dialect and vernacular accuracy the idea of 'race' makes people less smart, like any unsubstantiated idea accepted as truth, I guess It so offensive to me to hear people slur Twain by calling him racist for recording language accurately
In the 9 months since writing that comment up there I've learned more about Twain and you're quite right. You pretty much nailed it in your earlier post. "The difference is that dark skinned people are villains in the former* and heroes in the latter". That sums it up exactly. I suppose the big difference is that Twain's work is very often covered in school while Lovecraft's work is something a child finds much later in life, often times without the assistance of an educator to help understand the nuance of his pro-white views leaking (sometimes overflowing) from his text. So yeah, thanks for setting me straight and providing more of that nuance.
you are a classy fellow...the wise man relishes being wrong and does not hesitate to admit it, because the ability to do so is the pathway to learning. I am not good at that, so mad respect on this end ==== That Lovercraft held racist views is not up for argument--not because of his stories-the racism in them could merely be a part of his fiction and no more real than Cthulu But Lovecraft was a notorious and prolific letter writer, I mean the dude CONSTANTLY wrote personal letters to friends and others we can be pretty sure of his views because of these letters
The story's mentioned notion of hereditary cruelty is something I have opinions about. I don't believe humans can be born cruel or evil, me being Christian and all.
Luke Johnson humans are born humans. They have good and evil in their hearts and it's the decisions they make through life that determines if someone is good or evil.
Despite the racial issues of the cat name, the second half of this story is phenomenal. A description of horrors that could only be told by a true legend of the genre. I have to hate on it and love it at the same time. Why couldn't he just call the cat Mr. Whiskers or something?
Of all the HP Lovecraft stories, sadly this one is now the least scary and least accurate. Hearing "Pilkdown Man" "Antediluvian" "That had only been quadruped 20 generations ago" just... Makes this far more comical then scary. It's a shame things such as this become so dated by there scientific wordage.
"Evolved" is not the proper word for how these things progressed. It's more like what we did to dogs. Selectively breeding them in specific environments under specific conditions. And it was likely longer than 20 generations, that was just the poor narrators guess. I seriously think you're not imagining this well enough. This is one of his most depraved and disturbing works. Just thinking of the untold thousands of not millions of humans and rats that lived in the literal worst conditions imaginable. They'd be fucking all the time. Cannibalizing anything they can. Naked and crawling, covered in rats and feces.
One of my favorite sci-fi authors, Michael Crichton, also now has many novels that are dated on their science due to advancements in their fields, doesn't make them any less enjoyable, and it's going to happen when you reference current leading edge technology or research.
Utterly baseless hearsay and rumour im afraid, I don't remember where I heard it, I just thought id spread it here to sew discord and do my bit to undermine the treasure store of human knowledge. I've also got one about Andy Warhol spending his last years living on a diet of 100% candy bars. I have no real idea if that's true either.
How about you go fuck yourself? Since I'm not a quivering weak minded cretin. I'd actually really enjoy listening to the full uncensored work of artists. Your comments are not in line with the values many in the hegemonic states hold dear. Besides rising hegemonic powers like china, where your line of "censor things that offend present sensibilities" bullshit fits right in with the government authoritarianism.
your converse highs you’re right it is. He’s the useful idiot authoritarians use to get to power. That’s why I despise him. He should just ignore things that bother him instead of making the world a worse place with his demands.
"End of side one. To continue, turn the cassette over" - H.P. Lovecraft
In all seriousness, thanks so much for uploading. I listen to one of these lovecraft stories every night.
Lovecraft's stories are perfect for bedtime! :D
So are the names of his cats
Narrator: *Claims to have nine cats*
Me: Awwwwwwwww. ^^
Narrator: *Hears the name of his favorite one*
Me: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh!!
Grow up.
I think that was a servants name, not the cats..
@@Rick_Riff The cat was the servant
This comment was hilarious though LMFAO
Woo... That is one of the creepiest descents into madness I have ever read/heard. I love how his speech degrades at the end, like he's going through the different eras of horror that happened in that place. Simply awesome
Yes, when a suitable narrator meets a suitable book, it can create a magic and I believe that is the case here.
Agreed
Not the debased Romanesque of the bumbling Saxons. Indeed. Makes a dandy T-shirt motto, yes?
My finance's great aunt had a cat with a similar name...
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
14:10 what we all wanted to hear.
Thanks for visiting!
Wow, salt in the wounds!
She lies and says she's in love with him, can't find...
Bruh he even hesitated to say it.
It's been 6 years since this comment.
Are you still a cringe edge lord? Sincerely hope not.
So i was listening to this when I was about half asleep, and I decided to shut my eyes to really absorb it at about 37:00.
I wake up at 45:00 and I never want to shut my eyes again. This is true horror the way it is meant to be told.
+Iamafishproductions Yes, this is the epitome of true horror where it really grabs your imagination and won't let it go.
Never listen to Lovecraft while asleep, I learn that the hard way
@@raisingwings2913 this was the first Lovecraft story I ever read, definitely not a good one to start with
Comrade Wallace I love Lovecraft so much...his writing style holds your imagination and never lets go. I still have nightmares from some of the stories of his I’ve read. Nothing too intense, but lots of things that mimic The Outsider, Rats in the Walls, and the Colour out of Space. I just wake up with this weird feeling and need to take a minute to tell myself they’re just dreams. No other horror movies or writers have achieved this with me. You don’t need gore or jump scares to make good horror.
I fall asleep to this story at least once a week, haven't had a single dream about demonic swine herders in subterranean caverns littered with human bones yet; and I am both relieved and mildly disappointed by that fact.
When you watch this video, you can put a bookmark in a simple way. If you watched till 2 minutes and 30 seconds, then simply leave a comment of 02:30 and RUclips automatically creates a link serving as your private bookmark. Also, for long videos, let's say you listened till 2 hours and 33 minutes and 44 seconds, then simply leave a comment of 02:33:44. And when you comeback to the video, simply click the comment/link you left last time. Hope this helps!
Im currently listening to the Gulag Archipelago, atm. This comment will literally save me hours of time as each part is between 7 and 11 hours long and losing my place is really annoying! Thank you so much!
14:10 HE SAID THE THING
Just a word that has an ugly slur nothing physically happened when it’s said other then it’s history of association with its origins
@@tonydaza8504 ok but it's still funny
🍾🥂
Was that the Cat's name or the servants name?
@James Connor I was trying a joke. Maybe bad taste but I thought it was clever.
I’m going to rename my cat now
Lmao same
I thought about naming my cat that too
There are many things about H. P. Lovecraft that would be admirable to imitate...this is not one of them.
@Wario DS
Dude, you pull your food out of dumpsters. You want to start mocking people for their dietary choices, real or imagined, my only suggestion is that you take down all those videos first. Kinda setting yourself up to look like a complete joke with that line of attack.
This reading painted pictures in my mind that I hope to never forget. Thanks for the upload!
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
classic Lovecraft story, this narrator is also the best!
Thanks for listening!
Is it the guy from "dirty jobs."
20:00
"End of side one; to continue, turn the cassette over."
*flips cassette*
"Side two;
Tales of HP Lovecraft, by HP Lovecraft.
Continuing with The Rats In The Walls, on page 21."
Beardwhip : one of his best quotes evur. Brings shiver to muh spayn.
THANKYOU, what. a wonderful gift, I intend listening to every story.
+lightseeker Thanks for listening!
I just rescued a new little black kitten. I've got an idea...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! XD
This is Lovecraft at his best here, in top form. A classic non-mythos story in the tradition of Edgar Allan Poe, but stylistically superior and far more understanding of the depth and breadth of the unknown, that black chasm that lays forever just beyond the supposedly firm ground upon which we've based our world.
That's very good analysis. Yes, Lovecraft had much deeper understanding of the nature of the unknown compared to Poe.
I am the king of kings how dare you address me pipsqueak
DicKloadaLOVE cheers pal i use a rubber when i see her tonight just for the support youve shown
and a gentlemen too
DicKloadaLOVE i love you
Thank you for all your work on uploading these amazing stories! If it weren't for you I'd be so bored. I listen to one every night before bed and recently I listen to one throughout the day too, thak you thank you thank you a thousand times sir!
blackmetalmagick1 I'm glad that you like my humble channel! I'll keep doing my best to make my channel interesting and intellectually stimulating. Cheers!
a perfect narration of a fantastic story
+Justin Hogsett Thanks for listening!
I wholeheartedly agree :)
I am English but for some reason i can only listen to Mr Lovecraft stories told by American narrators and this particular narrator is my favourite
Unmentionable fungus beasts. Er.. dude.. you just mentioned them.
Thanks for visiting!
No, no, they're fungus beasts growing on someone's unmentionables.
Subscribed! I just found this channel yesterday and i'm addicted to it and the knowledge it contains. Thank you for taking the time to post these important videos.
+killersolo5 Thank you so much for your kind words! I will keep doing my best! And thanks for listening and cheers!
39:30 "..hunger, or RAT-FEAR!.."
38:35 "I wonder that any man among us lived, and kept his sanity through that hideous day of discovery... ...events that must have taken place here 300 years, or a thousand, or two thousand, or TEN thousand years ago..." -so damn 'Lovecraft' ^ _ ^
one of my favourite stories from him
Thanks for listening!
thx for uploading it
His cat's name is what?
I know this video is rather old, but thank you for posting this!
holyshotgun1 My pleasure!
Why did I try to fall asleep to this now I will never sleep again
Underrated Lovecraft short story,and frankly one of his best. It's clearly patterened after Edgar Allan Poe's stories, but with Lovecraft's own style added to it. (Though I disagree with other commentators that it's stylistically superior. It's more accesibile, which shouldn't be confused with automatically being better.)
Great choice for a narrator.
The lesson here kids is simple; don't let your human cattle starve!
Best cat name EVER! lol
Thanks for listening!
The ending gave me chills
Thanks for visiting and listening. Cheers!
This should not be ignored for the simple fact this man who years after is now celebrated
I've got one for HP. I had the old house caulked, buttoned up and repainted. Now all the bugs are imprisoned in the walls and they have no choice but to come inside! AAAHHH!!!!
Thanks for listening! :D
It's Martin Luther King, Jr. Day, and I just had to listen to this today.
Thanks for visiting! Any day is a good day to listen to Lovecraft IMHO. Cheers!
I like how he inhales before saying that name
I don't care about Lovecraft's racism. That doesn't take the horror from his work. The work being my only interest. I can pick up on descriptions like "hatefully negroid" or "hints of voodooism". They don't concern me or my skin.
Desolate Hound good it shouldn't. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The content of character is what matters. Skin color should only matter if you're the sun...
@Lord Pax No, actually, Lovecraft's racism even disturbed his contemporaries. Not everyone was such an asshole back then.
Orkun Akman thank you. It’s troubling the people who love to snuggle in the racism of others
His racism views changed later years near the end of his life when he he listened to his friends views
Lovecraft was a xenophobic and cynical man, but that's why he wrote such good horror. I have no problem with the racism in his writing, because it's always given blatantly by the perspective of the character who are typically insane men anyway.
Not to mention it is the norm if you lived in 1920s or 30s new England america
@@nolanhewitt2563 Not really, he was considered to be a racist even then.
@@orkunakman1541 I find that really hard to believe. He comes across as a soft racist compared to the lynch mob kind of white people from that same Era.
Well he was harshly abused by his mother and raised in suburban New England, he hated and feared everything that wasnt his locked attic of hus childhood
VejyMonsta so... By your estimate all racists are “insane”? Funny, it’s been my finding that so-called “racists” are typically of a far higher intellectual capacity than the sheeple who follow the norms of the rest of the room temperature IQ herd, bleating against such things as “racism”. Which by all accounts is a very basic human defense mechanism to keep away from that which is different. Why do you think there ARE different races and cultures in the first place? It’s not just to geography.
fav story. love this channel.
Who is this VO artist? He could tell me my family died painfully and abruptly and I'd just sit there, listening...
Conrad Feininger
14:11
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
Such a good story...
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
Excellent.
Lovecraft looks so disappointed in the picture. He looks like a mother who just caught her son doing the very thing she advised not to
This story is very M.R James. M.R James was the classic English rural horror writer and this seems like a nod to those themes.
Wayne June called, and he wants you off his lawn!
This was the original The Shining!
Everyone bring up the dear cat as proof that Lovecraft is racist, but think what the story is about, and who it is that names the cat...
This story is great.
No story gives me as much dread as this
Perched perilously upon a precipice
Every time I hear that cat's name I laugh my ass off.
What languages does he speak in the end? Latin, celtic, old English, Saxon, and Rlyeh ftaghn Im guessing?
Yeah it seems to go back chronologically through Early Modern English to Old English (Anglo-Saxon) to Latin, Celtic and then to Rlyeh speech. If I saw the text from the book i could probably say for sure
I came here for the name alone. .. loll
Dude, I know I've said it before but your voice. it's perfect for reading Lovecraft. Ever considered doing professional voicework? anything from narrating full novels by Stephen king or maybe as a voice actor in films? you have talent, at least I think so.
It's not the uploaders voice, it's the reader for the National Archives, that's why it says turn the tape over for side 2. It's only the National archives Visual disables section of cassette tapes.
This is a living nightmare,or it is a reality?
I love this video thanks alot reading thing bores me but I really want to read more but having audiobooks and following along helps me alot thanks for the video bud.
On a side note I'm glad to see Noone is really offended by the cats name and hope it stays that way if not just say black-man cause it's not hurting Noone
I think racism is hilarious
Who is reading this? He is wonderful!
Howard Philips Lovecraft
20:28
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
Does anyone know the reader's name? He has the perfect voice for this!
sorry I'm too years late, but his name is Conrad Feininger
I laughed when he said what his cats name was.
People told me you don't notice Lovecraft's racism in his stories unless you know his real life views... Between this and Call of Cthulhu I'm calling bullshit. Cringed each time the cats name came up
My video opened with a ad for pizza.
What a combination! A pizza with living octopus topping would be perfect for Lovecraftian nightmare! :D
The Van Gogh of horror fiction.Anyone else think of "The people under the stairs" after reading this? Not a very good movie, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wes Craven was influenced by "Rats" when he wrote it.
Per Eriksen Yes, like Gogh, Lovecraft was just way, way ahead of his time. Thanks for listening!
Thats an amazing movie!
Who is this reader? May someone be so kind as to enlighten me on his identity?
what was that cat's name again?
HP Lovecraft is goat of horror
This sounds like Ken Nordine. Anyone know where the original recording appeared?
National Archives Audio Disability Cassette Tapes I believe, if I remember correctly.
Im in your walls
Strange name for a cat...otherwise, I enjoy the story. 😸❤
Thanks for listening!
Lovecraft's favorite cat was actually named that. He was a horrible bigot. Great writer though.
Reese Loveland good at naming cats too
"Otherwise"
As though it doesn't make the story 10x better.
You'll remember this cat longer than you'll remember the narrator.
Can I use this for my capstone project? I would give full credit to you :)
alphard consencino I'm sorry for not accommodating but please do not use this for the project. Thank you.
okay I understand. thanks
alphard consencino You are welcome. However, I wish you the best for your project. :)
I think because of my add I have a hard time understanding everything and paying attention but I really do appreciate it anyway. I love everything lovecraftian. (also english is my second language so that might have something to do with it.
limern777 Thanks for listening!
limern777
Lovecraft can be difficult for native speakers. Like Shakespeare, it has a unique beautiful poetry to it, in how he describes cosmic horror. He exercises his extraordinary vocabulary probably too much for his own financial good during his life, but it’s in that uniqueness his work will last through the generations.
thank you
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
Ungl . . . ungl . . . rrrlh . . . chchch . . .
Anyone know whose is the narrator?
Conrad Feininger
This reader is great in the many other lovecraft stories but i think David McCallum:s reading of this story is a little better.
The cat's name is ninja
Ouuuuu this is version before ekhm Black Tom.
HYPERBRUH
N
I
G
GERtrude Stein
Everybody's a lil bit racist.
I fell in love with this author 12 years ago, read everything, watched all the games , you name it. Yes I have noticed his racism and awful distaste for anyone that isn’t as smart as the main character. Like there is a superiority complex so strong in so many of his main characters , and that’s what really bothers me. I’m black and the racism is kinda like, “ ok that’s how he was.” But for me , the way he looks down on people , that’s what’s really disgusting. Read “The Temple”.
It’s almost unreadable up until everyone else is dead.
You seriously cannot do a series of diatribes about how superior your blood line is and how no one around you stacks up to you intelligence wise and belittle their ethnic heritage.
5:00
Was that the cat's name or the servants name?
The cat's
@@maxscherzer9521 kind of a joke maybe not an appropriate one but when I first read the cats name I died laughing after triple checking he actually wrote what I was reading.
This keeps freezing at the same point... has anyone else had this issue?
It's probably some system glitch and will be fixed in several hours. Cheers!
...and yet, Mark Twain is a literary hero for gratuitous use of racial slurs in "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"? No, its a good example of socially acceptable vernacular for the era. Get over the cats name, try to enjoy the meat and potatoes.
Twain is no less guilty of the racism that gripped his era. But we confront Twain's racism in school studies because it is important to do so. With Lovecraft, who was exceptionally racist even for men of his time, we try to make excuses and refuse to confront his malformed beliefs. Both men are geniuses, but one enjoys a stalwart and misguided defense that he doesn't deserve.
He later expressed regret for those beliefs. Or is that making excuses? Regardless I would say that counters your claim "refuse to confront his malformed beliefs".
'But we confront Twain's racism...'
Jesus Christ....Huck Finn is a book waging for racial equality...it's principal light-skinned character rejects slavery and his best friend is dark-skinned
the way people talked back then is the way people talked--Twain is famous for attention to dialect and vernacular accuracy
the idea of 'race' makes people less smart, like any unsubstantiated idea accepted as truth, I guess
It so offensive to me to hear people slur Twain by calling him racist for recording language accurately
In the 9 months since writing that comment up there I've learned more about Twain and you're quite right. You pretty much nailed it in your earlier post. "The difference is that dark skinned people are villains in the former* and heroes in the latter". That sums it up exactly.
I suppose the big difference is that Twain's work is very often covered in school while Lovecraft's work is something a child finds much later in life, often times without the assistance of an educator to help understand the nuance of his pro-white views leaking (sometimes overflowing) from his text.
So yeah, thanks for setting me straight and providing more of that nuance.
you are a classy fellow...the wise man relishes being wrong and does not hesitate to admit it, because the ability to do so is the pathway to learning.
I am not good at that, so mad respect on this end
====
That Lovercraft held racist views is not up for argument--not because of his stories-the racism in them could merely be a part of his fiction and no more real than Cthulu
But Lovecraft was a notorious and prolific letter writer, I mean the dude CONSTANTLY wrote personal letters to friends and others
we can be pretty sure of his views because of these letters
The story's mentioned notion of hereditary cruelty is something I have opinions about. I don't believe humans can be born cruel or evil, me being Christian and all.
Thanks for your input. :)
Luke Johnson humans are born humans. They have good and evil in their hearts and it's the decisions they make through life that determines if someone is good or evil.
Despite the racial issues of the cat name, the second half of this story is phenomenal. A description of horrors that could only be told by a true legend of the genre. I have to hate on it and love it at the same time. Why couldn't he just call the cat Mr. Whiskers or something?
On a side note I know that the time period was full of things like this but COME ON HOWARD!
13:56
Stop. Saying. It.
That didn’t age well
Of all the HP Lovecraft stories, sadly this one is now the least scary and least accurate. Hearing "Pilkdown Man" "Antediluvian" "That had only been quadruped 20 generations ago" just... Makes this far more comical then scary. It's a shame things such as this become so dated by there scientific wordage.
Thanks for your feedback.
Way to miss the point idiot, they were mutated not evolved
The Raccooning "Pikman's Model"...yup.
"Evolved" is not the proper word for how these things progressed. It's more like what we did to dogs. Selectively breeding them in specific environments under specific conditions. And it was likely longer than 20 generations, that was just the poor narrators guess.
I seriously think you're not imagining this well enough. This is one of his most depraved and disturbing works. Just thinking of the untold thousands of not millions of humans and rats that lived in the literal worst conditions imaginable. They'd be fucking all the time. Cannibalizing anything they can. Naked and crawling, covered in rats and feces.
One of my favorite sci-fi authors, Michael Crichton, also now has many novels that are dated on their science due to advancements in their fields, doesn't make them any less enjoyable, and it's going to happen when you reference current leading edge technology or research.
This video has 69 dislikes. Nice
Ha ha he said the n word
14:09 Excuse-moi?
46:14
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
HE said the N WURD :0 this should be banned
I hope you are joking, otherwise you should probably grow up
Moral of the story?
Nobody who names their cat that way, deserves a happy ending :))
+neferiusnexus *slow claps*
Lovecraft himself named a cat like that, I think he deserved a happy ending.
It was a fine name
lovecraft died at 47 after spending the last years of his life living on a diet of catfood. so there is that.
Utterly baseless hearsay and rumour im afraid, I don't remember where I heard it, I just thought id spread it here to sew discord and do my bit to undermine the treasure store of human knowledge. I've also got one about Andy Warhol spending his last years living on a diet of 100% candy bars. I have no real idea if that's true either.
Please censor this video... it has the n word a lot...
Hurbii
Really....?
yes lol
Hurbii Get over it.
How about you go fuck yourself?
Since I'm not a quivering weak minded cretin. I'd actually really enjoy listening to the full uncensored work of artists. Your comments are not in line with the values many in the hegemonic states hold dear. Besides rising hegemonic powers like china, where your line of "censor things that offend present sensibilities" bullshit fits right in with the government authoritarianism.
your converse highs you’re right it is. He’s the useful idiot authoritarians use to get to power. That’s why I despise him. He should just ignore things that bother him instead of making the world a worse place with his demands.
14:11
Thanks for visiting and listening! Cheers!
15:00
Thanks for listening! Cheers!
13:59