I think it should be far less than 50%. If the average occupancy of a property is 4, then a single person should only have to pay a quarter or 25% of it. I pay £272 already making this my largest single monthly household cost already. It’s an unfair system that penalises those living alone.
@@nimos1 I agree totally, Maggie's POL tax was the best thing ever. I also pay out a large amount each month, why should we downsize or take in a lodger just because we have been widowed, we didn't choose to be it just sadly happened.Labour are sadly out of touch with the people, they are no longer for the working man in the streets, shame on them.
Im sure we all know why the single person will be forced to pay the same council tax as a multi child family,the clue is foreign migrant parents who labour seem to favor above the indigenous population.
Free council rent for pensioners who have paid in everything for 50+ years instead of selling off council property which is making some rich people very rich indeed on the back of the poor homeless indigenous population, looking after your own country’s people is what governments is all about, after all we fight and die for OUR country don’t we!
@@patgard36 I do not agree with that I think we have got and have had useless governments over the last fourteen years that are only looking after the rich
And it's the same with tax. A single person pays more income tax, then those that are married. The argument Doppey woman come out with, is a single person has not got the same responsibilitys as single person, complete ballshit.
As a single person that owns a band B house, and pays the 75% council tax, it’s obvious that those in families of 4 or 5 will usually live in higher band ones. Someone who is well off enough to live alone in a large house could lose a fair bit if the 25% discount was abolished though. No doubt there are such people, like elderly pensioners who own one that used to be their family house years ago, though. A large slice of their assets could well be in property in that case.
"Lots of single people are pensioners". Aren't a large majority of pensioners single people? When I think of all the pensioners I know, most have been widowed, divorced (and stayed single) or just choose to love alone for various reasons. Sheltered housing which is designed for 55+ (pre pension age) assumes people live alone and not as a couple and those who are a couple like those in my family have to wait years for a flat big enough for a couple in sheltered housing as a result of this assumption that 55+ are single people who wish to remain so. Staying single can't be further penalised by a change in Council Tax to them as well as younger people who are a different variety of reasons are living alone, some of which are for their health and wellbeing!
Oh pipe down! Stop being so melodramatic. I'm no fan of Starmer & Co but it's clear as day that they're nowhere near as dreadful as the gang of crooks that have been wrecking this country for so many years. The worst anyone has to say about this government so far is the cutting of winter fuel payments (the Tories did stuff like that all the time) and the acceptance of expensive gifts (again the Tories did this loads. Bojo was much worse). What's the other oh-so-terrible things that you think he should be stepping down over? They've only been in power for a couple of months FFS, and they've already sorted things out that the Tories spent years doing fuck all about, such as ending some of the strike action by giving workers proper pay rises. But of course all the Tory-lovers are even moaning about that too now, trying to spin it as a negative thing. They've started processing asylum claims properly as well, which the Tories stopped doing on purpose to create a massive backlog of unprocessed claims. They deliberately sabotaged our asylum system, and now Labour have got it up and running again to start doing the MASSIVE amount of work needed to get those numbers down, and you think he should step down? LMAO! You will complain about Labour no matter what they do. Plonker.
On what basis? He's trying to clean up 50 years of neoliberal policy that started with Thatcher and left our economy in smoking ruins after Brex1t and Truss
Strap yourself in, buckle up you have got another 4 years and 10 months of Starmer Cooper Rayner Reeves and the village idiot Lammy! Vote Labour at your peril!
I envy you living in a van.if my grown up children were not at home I would live in a van too.The dreaded council tax rent high bills each month relentless blessings to you simple life is better by far🌈
Nobody knew what exactly what Labours policies was you fool. Its only after they was elected to remove the Conservative Party did voters who voted Labour found out there agendas. Myself being 1 of them. It's votes they won't get again in any coming Elections including the local Elections in May 2025 to keep all Labour Councillors out of our Towns and City's. Don't blame voters blame the Labour Party for there lies and deception on us voters.
I just wish Governments would give reasonable notice. I am 81 years of age and now live alone so we have been faced with the withdrawal of the ‘Winter Fuel Allowance’. I have always been very careful with my financial affairs and budgeted accordingly. But how can any pensioner predict the withdrawal of such support at such short notice because we don’t stand a chance of making adjustments? If the discount for Council Tax is cancelled then I will have to give up. That is something I have not calculated for in my control of my finances and I just cannot imagine how I would cope having made so many drastic sacrifices. Believe me, having contributed into the system for the best part of half a century, I have paid into the system and yet illegal immigrants can come across the Channel provided with accommodation plus expenses at tax payers expense. I think it is time to give up completely. What happened to democracy?
Greed, they want more from people who have little. Eventually, they will take everything, and when that happens, people will have nothing to lose. That's when we will fight back for real.
@@williamthompson4389 they are only interested is keeping the rich Rich the rest of us do not matter I worked from 15 to 60 it is horrendous that they have denied us the winter fuel money and if they stop the council tax discount they will put a lot of elderly people in a difficult situation call them selves Labour Take Care
Stand up and be heard that's why they keep abusing their responsibility to govern properly PENSIONERS ARE EASY TARGETS HOW ABOUT STOP PAYING MILLIONS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,WITH OUR TAXES
@@stephenwhiddett local bins charged per household on collection. clearing hedrows and curbways, the collective village or area. i live i a country where there is no tax. on land or property. if you grow your own, you live free. they work as a community. trash is either collected or taken to the municipal dump. it works well. need build, not need planning permission. etc. The village has a wat, a Buddhist temple. They keep all the shared community property. Tents for weddings and funerals, large pans and cookware. All events such as weddings are organised by the village. all preparation done by the village. the western model is one of suck the people dry until they die.
A single person should pay only 50% council tax, a single person has a much lower demand on the limited resources a local council has than a household with two adults a multiple children Why should a single person who is already paying more to live than a couple, pay even more to subsidise those who have large numbers of children for both religious and cultural reasons? If you have more than 2 children you should pay more council tax to cover the costs that having excess children bring to society
@@jackieporter5323 Just Googled this..."Do you need to pay Council Tax if you have a prayer room? The owner of the property should pay Council Tax. The owner can claim a discount for members of a religious community who live in the property and whose main occupation is prayer, contemplation, education or the relief of suffering."
@@jackieporter5323 "A person may not have to pay Council Tax if they are a member of a religious community where the principal occupation is prayer, contemplation, education, the relief of suffering or any combination of these." Every time this is deleted, I'll post it back here, again!
Why should I pay full council tax just for having my 1 bin a fortnight emptied,sometimes I dont put them out as there is only a few bits in it it's not fair
Schwab and co have penetrated governments around the world to push their evil agenda. Not conspiracy. He smugly said it himself. Starmer is a member of the Fabian Society whose logo is a wolf in sheep’s clothing!!! Also a member of the Trilateral commission. Says it all.
It was ironic to see KS on video tape in the Commons previously indignantly castigating the Tory PM that he might be looking to scrap WFA, but it was a Labour PM that took it away.
Yesterday, I met up with a dyed in the wool Labour supporter who has never broken faith with them at anytime in his life .... until now. I avoided any mention of the dangers we pensioners are facing but, without prompting, he said he couldn't believe what this government was doing and wouldn't have voted for them in July if he'd had any idea of what they intended; furthermore, he would never trust them again no matter what they did from here onward. I welcomed his conversion, but it may well prove too late for the millions who planned their lives properly but will live out their days in misery.
Exactly, England is a tiny country, there is already too much competition for Jobs/ doctors/ housing and yet the government say's everyone is welcome to come to England
When i was working i had to get council tax discount as a single person and honestly i wouldnt have been able to afford to eat if i hadnt had it, what the hell is going on, this isnt just tory austerity this is worse than anything ive ever seen the tories do.
@SuzanneJones-qy3zh I don't know why your ranting angrily in my direction but okay, pension credit is a benefit and always was and has been, nothing wrong with that at all. Benefits are good for everyone.
Only 34% of people who actually voted in an historically low turnout..Actually voted Labour!!!…. So don’t blame anyone without checking the facts…It is because so many people didn’t vote at all made it more likely that Labour would win in the ‘first past the post system’ !!!which does not reflect the dissatisfaction of the people at all… and has resulted in the undeserved massive majority ‘enjoyed’ by a sham government… who can now do anything they want without fear of a effective opposition of any kind!!….!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@bermudarailway. And why not. That was the fairest way, then everybody pays for all the ameinties, not just the people struggling to keep a roof over their heads.
@@emilysweet9082 The problem with the PollTax is that it was a flat rate for rich and poor. It needs to be a combined Poll Tax and home value. So that the rate would not be too high for poor people but not too low for extremely rich people.
There are thousands of young single people who will struggle without the discount, many on low income, some struggling to repay debt from university. They don't all have parents who can help out
If this disgusting Labour shower can get away with scrapping the single persons council tax discount they will certainly do it they must be fought by the nation to kick them out of power.
I live on my own , no kids, and I have disabilities. I don’t use sports facilities, schools, libraries. I produce very little rubbish. Why should I pay as much as my neighbour who has 3 kids and uses all of the above? It’s disgusting to even consider it, but nothing would surprise me with these corrupt liars who do more u turns than any other government I can remember and I am a pensioner 😡😡😡😡😡
Don't let the turds get you down because you are a better person than they are or will ever be. Look into the mirror and you will see who you are worth living for.
KEEP GOING WE ARE ALL FEELING YOUR PAIN BUT NEVER GIVE UP HOPE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN WILL ALWAYS STAND TOGETHER IN TIMES OF TROUBLE....STAY STRONG.😉
I think it should be pointed out that Councils are the bodies that set the Council Tax which created part of the Council income. A number of councils have been badgering the Govt to get rid of the 25% single person benefit and so increase their income or as in many cases reduce their massive debt. Although Councils set the Council Tax only the Govt can allow Councils to get rid of the 25% reduction for single occupants. If the 25% is scrapped the Govt will not see a penny of it,it will go into the Council coffers. It is utterly incompetent Councils,such as Nottingham and Birmingham,who are creating this problem.
A good chunk of council budgets are covered by central government grants. The proportions of homes in Council Tax bands will make some difference, but the biggest difference to incomes councils can raise locally is business rates. Scrapping single person's discount would further benefit the wealthiest councils. They'd get 25% of more higher band charges.
25% of everyone’s council tax bill goes to paying pensions of current retired council employees, this is the one thing that needs sorting out, even if it was stopping the current arrangements for new employees. If it was a private pension scheme it would have been shut down for not having enough funds.
Council tax goes into the Consolidation Fund and the government give back an allowance to the councils, where do you think the money going to Ukraine comes from? The money that would pay for the Zelensky potholes went there.
Removing the 25% discount for single occupancy which actually means widows and widowers who have saved money for their funeral will be on average £800 taken from them by the government
As a single disabled person without children im scared of this. Like others have said why should i pay the same as for multiple children and adults. Due to my disability, i can't have children and i have never had a relationship. Its just punishment for failing to live to societal norms. I would love a partner to shoulder the burdens but nobody wants me, and i wouldn't want to have a partner because for various reasons. I don't know what to do if this comes in. Its another kick in the teeth. I feel really sorry for pensioners and other single people. It all just feels awful right now.
@@Disabilitytalkwithsteve And to boot they have kept the vile Tory assessment process that has caused so much distress to the disabled. I'm disgusted with Starmer.
single disabled, no kids, single person discount and council tax support. if Spd goes, that'll be £300 i'll have to pay PA, maybe more. maybe they'll means test the SPD as they do council tax support.
The man is the only politician who I can remember who treats the people with contempt. Step down starmer! Even labour supporters are disgusted with him. Good luck people stay free. 🇬🇧
Starmer doesn’t care about anyone but himself free gear Kier is self serving and will do whatever he wants without a thought for the people of this country budget day will be a disaster for us all he will wring us dry and put it down to the “black hole “ Labour need to go now
I've thought for years now that the single person occupancy should be 50% not 25%, it would be ridiculous to scrap the 25% CT discount, that really wouldn't be fair at all and would affect millions of people who are struggling as it is.
I can understand council tax goes towards the emergency services too, but my waste bins don't need to be emptied every week. My recycling bin is emptied once a month and my household waste bin is emptied something like once every two to three months. Get rid of these clowns now!!!!!!!!
Non of our political parties have consciously made life better for the ordinary citizen. But life for all MPs is very comfortable,them and us has to stop.
Careful what you wish for. Don’t forget who the next in line for the leaders job is…..the woman with zero fashion sense and who left school with more kids than qualifications.
The council tax is the most unfair tax ever devised as it doesn't take into account the ability to pay the value of your house isnt income.The poll tax was much fairer as everybody had to pay towards local services which everybody has access to but the way that it was implemented was wrong the Tories lost their nerve when renta crowd took to the streets so now we are stuck with council tax which only householders have to pay whilst everybody else gets a free ride.
Worked all my life get a pension of £202 20p a week. Also private pension of £200 a month which I paid for myself. Because of my private pension I have to pay council tax of £136 a month cant claim for glasses or dental care. Fell over at the beginning of the year and broke my glasses cost £250 to replace so that was 4 months with no private pension. Starmer has stopped my £200 winter heating allowance. Friend of mine in and out of work until the age of 40 when he managed to get full benefits Now claiming almost £1400 a month plus free rent. Pays £12 a month council tax gets £300 a year heating allowance. Free glasses free dental treatment and what ever else he can get. Even Starmer gets free glasses and I bet they cost more than £250. Also I have to buy my own clothes unlike Starmer and his wife.
So wrong, so unfair. The system rewards and punishes the wrong people. Work hard, pay tax, contribute, be responsible, independent and prudent, save and later in life get hammered and rejected. On the other had blow the lot and then get given everything. No incentive. They take off one and give to the other. We pay tax on income, everything we spend, our savings and then your death. Inheritance tax is a tax on everything left over from paying tax all your life. They make us pay 20% vat on the tax they add as fuel duty. Tax on top of tax. Most People are not aware. My lifetime accumulated wealth is my kids future to pay their student loans off and afford a house and afford to live. Labour think 52% of it is theirs. It f******g isn’t. They won’t get a penny of it. I will do whatever it takes. Blow it, bury it or leave the country. I don’t want to do any of that, but I feel I have to. The problem is within a few years, we will be a cashless society, AI will monitor everything thing we have, spend and do. Our money and wealth will be in plain view, auto taxed and we will basically have a social credit system. They will legislate a system, Step out of line, be criminalised and your fines will be deducted at source. I don’t want or need much, just be free and left alone and keep what is mine, what I have worked for, risks taken and earned. I am an ordinary person, not extreme but I have slowly come to despise the government, mistrust authorities and consider them my most hated enemy. Reading the comments, many feel the same. I did not like the Tories either, but this lot make me sick. I’m so angry. I have friends who voted for this lot. Idiots, I told them what these communists would be like and they were too stupid to understand. Now they will suffer. I’m struggling to have anything to do with them. I’m trying not to be like that, but I just can’t forgive that level of ignorance or stupidity. We need rid of Labour and people need to not forget.
Hi . I've been retired for two years next January. Being a widow now for the last 4 years. To say life as been difficult doesn't cover it. Trying to make sure that I have enough money to pay my way is very stressful. Food rent gas and electricity water rates car insurance and car road tax coucil tax petrol. What is left. ? Kier Starmer and Rachel Reeves now decided that it's a good idea to stop winter fuel payment while paying for illegal migrants to live for free at a cost of 14 billion pound all inclusive living. All the politicians and whoever as anything to do with the decision making process should stop and think about the consequences of their decision.
I receive the discount, as a pensioner I have already lost £300 WFA. To lose the 25% discount will cost me close to an extra £600/year. £900 total. Thankyou starmer.
So used to get free tv like me , lost that £200 more so 1£1100 before tax u pay I do so u losing £1300 gross ffs this is poverty inducing policies !!!!
The issue is that Labour despises what they see as 'wealthy pensioners'. So they want to means test everything and get more people on benefits. Then they can control lives even more...horrific govt...
According to a labour woman on last nights Question Time,they are leaving the council tax alone ,,we will see because we all know they always tell the truth 💩
The very idea is disgusting. Why should I pay 100 % - a single person who rents, when a household with 4 working people only pay 25% each. Load of filthy rats.
The single person discount affects all single person households, i live alone struggle to live and hope the discount is not removed as i will be up £500 a year.
Yeah, watch this space. I’m a pensioner living alone why should I pay the same as a family with multiple occupants in their house. And no I’m not a well off pensioner, I am 73, not entitled to any benefits & still work part time. I also get the old level of state pension & pay tax on my occupational pension & my earnings which aren’t huge. I’m sick of people saying pensioners are well off & deserve to be screwed over 🤬🤬🤬
Gets even better when you find out the amount of councillors who are ALLOWED TO NOT PAY COUNCIL TAX themselves .Bloody criminal what these people get away with .
Under Labour if this discount is scrapped I will be £8 a week worse off, with the fuel price rise another £8 and with the coming diesel and petrol rises another £8..... and they said we definitley wouldnt raise taxes, just under £100 a month, just like that !!!
Bring in child tax more than three pay 125% council tax... Migrants wont have to many kids Jobless (philpot) wont be a burden Less NHS burden Less School burden
What the f will this Labour government also inflict on people, just to fill their own pockets? Single occupants are usually older people whose partner has died so, again, this government is fleecing pensioners 🤮
As a pensioner if this happens we’ll have to find another 1000 per year when added to winter fuel payment and that’s out of one of the lowest pensions in Europe. He forgets it was the poll tax that did for Thatcher. We didn’t endure 14 years of austerity for this government to make even more swinging cuts. Invest in people, repair roads, build infrastructure and this will employ ordinary people who will take their money and spend it and keep local businesses going. Give the rich breaks and they’ll stuff it in offshore accounts.
Better to double or treble the council tax on second homes and holiday property then we may get some back for young single people to be able to afford a home at all.
I think that's what the Tories were banking on..............left the country in a total mess knowing the next Government would have to try and sort it out and would be very unpopular!
Pension is set to rise by £460 next April apparently. I have a small private pension which means I already pay income tax so I will lose 20% of that immediately, that leaves £368. Remove my £300 heating allowance and I am down to an increase of £68. Remove the single person council tax discount and I am already several hundred pounds worse off. Inflation is also way above the official government figures. My car insurance doubled this year, my house Insurance went up about 30%, Gas electricity and water bills will go up. Food prices are rising much more than the 2.2% official figures and then you have shrinkflation on top of that even in shops like Aldi and Lidl. That is without the October budget rises. 2025 is going to be a very hard year. I worked from age 17 to age 70, now aged 77.
@@stevemoore4284 these policies above were all Conservative ideas conservatives brought in Council Tax, The Clean Air Charges, and the Non Residential Care Charges. They were not Labour Policies.
I agree with the comment from Michael, a single person's tax should be 50 %.. My rubbish is so minimal after recycling. What else do we get from the council...not a lot..?
It will affect me and many of my friends on very low incomes. If the council reduced the allowance to 20% instead of 25% off, it wouldn't be such a massive blow to single households , rather than taking all of it off in one go!
Labour have already made me £25 a month worse off with no winter fuel allowance now they want to take more . I’m so glad I never voted and will never vote for them . It’s bad enough losing my wife now they expect me to pay for losing her .
As council services are mostly per person not per house, it'd be fairer if we had something like the poll tax, where everyone pays a smaller amount than at present.
In essence the original concept was a sensible one for a civilised society but we of a certain age all know what happened to that idea with the ‘politically motivated riots' of the time!
If he removes single person council tax discount, he can forget about a second term, never mind the 10 year term he said he’s hoping for ! This is an outrage !! We shouldn’t have to pay the same as 2 income households!!
It takes me more than 2 months to fill up my wheelie bin and I'm not draining the coffers in other ways, so even with the 25% I'm already being scalped
If the discount is scrapped everyone use what it's paid for,,, Police, bin men, roads, fire brigade. You all know ways to get what you've paid for......
Starmas labour got less than 20% of the vote which means he doesn't have a mandate to govern. The King should dissolve parliament and order a new election.
Liz Kendal said on Question Time tonight, that the removal of the 25% being removed from council tax was not going to happen. Same with the free bus pass, it will stay in place.
This country has always suffered from the politics of envy. People who work hard and achieve something that they wanted at the time are seen at the end of that pathway somehow as though “they got lucky” or “they must have fiddled their way there”. Modern day governments stoke this form of envy up also. They see a house and believe the occupiers “have money” whereas the opposite is true. The house may (or may not) be worth something, but the occupiers are likely broke. They have very little ready money, precisely because most of it goes to servicing the property. This scenario also plays out for many living on their own in rented accommodation. When someone is left without their other supporting loved one, or have struggled alone for many years, why are they penalised? What sort of society does that? Only one that cares little. It wasn’t long ago that people with second and third homes got a second / third home discount on the tax? Government has ceased to make any sense, and acts moronic as long as it can feed itself. It has ceased to look after its own people and I truly believe we are reaching a time when we have had enough and the ‘system’ will be pulled down unless it reforms itself into removing the lying, cheating and fraudulent corruption it has become whilst ever seeking ordinary folk pay excessively for their excesses.
Scrapping this would put my bill up by £560 a year. I get nothing but a bin empty for what I pay now. This will be the “poll tax” moment for labour. If this is an aim phase it out over 5 years. To remove it immediately is suicidal for this government.
As a single person home owner, this doesn't just affect myself, but it's yet ANOTHER nail in the coffin of pensioners, many of whom are living alone too.
Why should one person pay as much as a family who have multiple wages coming in, I couldnt stand Maggie but that was the one thing I did agree with. Everyone should pay their fair share not just the people who live on their own.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they exclude pensioners but every one else would loose it.Single people need to write to there MP and make it clear how unhappy you are.We can not allow this government to get away with this policy.
If they take it away from benefit claimants. It will mean they have to add the whole council tax bill on. So win-win for benefit claimers as per usual. Mean while. All those illegals and criminals released from prison (who have no place to live) get first dibs on housing and hotel rooms. Which the rest of us are paying for!!!
The single person discount should be 50% not 25.
I think it should be far less than 50%. If the average occupancy of a property is 4, then a single person should only have to pay a quarter or 25% of it. I pay £272 already making this my largest single monthly household cost already. It’s an unfair system that penalises those living alone.
@@nimos1 Don't worry soon they will offer you a new arrival to live with.
@@jrosam9569… who won’t be paying anything!!!!!!
I agree
@@nimos1 I agree totally, Maggie's POL tax was the best thing ever. I also pay out a large amount each month, why should we downsize or take in a lodger just because we have been widowed, we didn't choose to be it just sadly happened.Labour are sadly out of touch with the people, they are no longer for the working man in the streets, shame on them.
Why should I pay as a single person as much council tax as a family with 5 kids? 25% discount is already a joke.
It's basically Starmer's poll tax...
Im sure we all know why the single person will be forced to pay the same council tax as a multi child family,the clue is foreign migrant parents who labour seem to favor above the indigenous population.
Free council rent for pensioners who have paid in everything for 50+ years instead of selling off council property which is making some rich people very rich indeed on the back of the poor homeless indigenous population, looking after your own country’s people is what governments is all about, after all we fight and die for OUR country don’t we!
@@patgard36 I do not agree with that I think we have got and have had useless governments over the last fourteen years that are only looking after the rich
@@patgard36is your real name Raymond cist.
Why should a single person pay as much as a family of 4 or 5 people? We don't produce as much waste or use as many resources as them.
And it's the same with tax. A single person pays more income tax, then those that are married. The argument Doppey woman come out with, is a single person has not got the same responsibilitys as single person, complete ballshit.
The council tax system is broken period the banding hasn't been touched since it was put in to replace the poll tax
As a single person that owns a band B house, and pays the 75% council tax, it’s obvious that those in families of 4 or 5 will usually live in higher band ones. Someone who is well off enough to live alone in a large house could lose a fair bit if the 25% discount was abolished though. No doubt there are such people, like elderly pensioners who own one that used to be their family house years ago, though. A large slice of their assets could well be in property in that case.
"Lots of single people are pensioners".
Aren't a large majority of pensioners single people?
When I think of all the pensioners I know, most have been widowed, divorced (and stayed single) or just choose to love alone for various reasons.
Sheltered housing which is designed for 55+ (pre pension age) assumes people live alone and not as a couple and those who are a couple like those in my family have to wait years for a flat big enough for a couple in sheltered housing as a result of this assumption that 55+ are single people who wish to remain so.
Staying single can't be further penalised by a change in Council Tax to them as well as younger people who are a different variety of reasons are living alone, some of which are for their health and wellbeing!
@@juliaevans9521 And I am one of them.
I can,t stand Rachael reeves. She is cruel and horrible!!!!
Accountants for you.. numbers are all that matter
Starmers dad was definitely a tool maker !!!!
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He's made a right tool he as and a not a sharp one
Yeah he made him let's vote reform I did
Excellent! 👍
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Starmer is a disgrace to this country and should step down immediately!
Your joking, what about Boris and Sunak after what they did
Oh pipe down! Stop being so melodramatic. I'm no fan of Starmer & Co but it's clear as day that they're nowhere near as dreadful as the gang of crooks that have been wrecking this country for so many years. The worst anyone has to say about this government so far is the cutting of winter fuel payments (the Tories did stuff like that all the time) and the acceptance of expensive gifts (again the Tories did this loads. Bojo was much worse). What's the other oh-so-terrible things that you think he should be stepping down over? They've only been in power for a couple of months FFS, and they've already sorted things out that the Tories spent years doing fuck all about, such as ending some of the strike action by giving workers proper pay rises. But of course all the Tory-lovers are even moaning about that too now, trying to spin it as a negative thing. They've started processing asylum claims properly as well, which the Tories stopped doing on purpose to create a massive backlog of unprocessed claims. They deliberately sabotaged our asylum system, and now Labour have got it up and running again to start doing the MASSIVE amount of work needed to get those numbers down, and you think he should step down? LMAO! You will complain about Labour no matter what they do. Plonker.
He should be brought to Court for Treason. As anyone who puts foreign countries and people above their own.
On what basis?
He's trying to clean up 50 years of neoliberal policy that started with Thatcher and left our economy in smoking ruins after Brex1t and Truss
Strap yourself in, buckle up you have got another 4 years and 10 months of Starmer Cooper Rayner Reeves and the village idiot Lammy! Vote Labour at your peril!
Let's scrap starmer
lol I do like that the RUclips webpage gave this comment the "Translate to English" option. Totally let's translate Starmer to be English.
@@GauBan2501 I could translate to English but it would definitely say "Translate to English" Lol
Starmer is the worst PM ever
starmer's Reeves their appeasing conservative government. couldn't hold a candle to the diabolical thatcher.
Don’t forget Boris & Liz
@@sy9958 Starmer the Harmer is worse
@@sy9958 just add him to the list
Blair
Single person, living in my van, never asked for anything. Matter of time before these politicians get what they deserve.
Tax for living singularly in a van coming after Christmas, love From Labour 😂😂😂
Starmer's looking for a suitable site for his first gulag. There will be parking space for your van.
@@Yumbutteredsausage lol, wouldn't be surprised 😂 they can only get so much blood out of a stone.
You were born!
I envy you living in a van.if my grown up children were not at home I would live in a van too.The dreaded council tax rent high bills each month relentless blessings to you simple life is better by far🌈
This so called Labour Party are going in the wrong direction absolutely disgraceful
They are not a Labour Party I recognise in my 52 years of voting they should change their name to red Conservatives
@@michaelj2528 I agree
@@michaelj2528 spot on
Never trust politicians' promises. They also avoid answering questions & think we're fooled by that as well. They're completely self-obsessed.
@@annenunney9907 They have never been in the right direction.
Stop the boats Stop Starmer along with the Labour Party 😊
Starmer already stopped the Labour Party, it’s over
The man has only been in a few months and already we are witnessing the cracks very big cracks
This labour party are filth .
This Labour party is a bunch of red Tories.
@@VirtualKnight64 No mate, Worse by a long way, and only just started.
@@malcky630 None can do worse than the Tories, except maybe Reform. Starmer's Labour is a fake, it's just a Tory clone.
@@malcky630 so how do you propose to clean up 50 years of Thatcherism?
@@SlowhandGregLabour's mass uncontrolled immigration starting from 1997 has not helped the situation 😢 infustructure couldn't cope 😢
Shame on all those who voted labour,they can't say they weren't warned.
Nobody knew what exactly what Labours policies was you fool. Its only after they was elected to remove the Conservative Party did voters who voted Labour found out there agendas.
Myself being 1 of them. It's votes they won't get again in any coming Elections including the local Elections in May 2025 to keep all Labour Councillors out of our Towns and City's. Don't blame voters blame the Labour Party for there lies and deception on us voters.
I voted Labour and happy I did to get tories out
@@LyndaAnderson-h1r
We did a Far Right government!
Nothings' even happened yet.
As a 0ne person household, why should we pay for eg. the same as a family of 5 people???
To pay for the boat people,
Or more if it’s in London.
I just wish Governments would give reasonable notice. I am 81 years of age and now live alone so we have been faced with the withdrawal of the ‘Winter Fuel Allowance’. I have always been very careful with my financial affairs and budgeted accordingly. But how can any pensioner predict the withdrawal of such support at such short notice because we don’t stand a chance of making adjustments? If the discount for Council Tax is cancelled then I will have to give up. That is something I have not calculated for in my control of my finances and I just cannot imagine how I would cope having made so many drastic sacrifices. Believe me, having contributed into the system for the best part of half a century, I have paid into the system and yet illegal immigrants can come across the Channel provided with accommodation plus expenses at tax payers expense. I think it is time to give up completely. What happened to democracy?
Greed, they want more from people who have little. Eventually, they will take everything, and when that happens, people will have nothing to lose. That's when we will fight back for real.
Sorry your the demographic they want rid of to house our replacements
This is the start of Starmer 's masters plan, have you not heard their mantra, " you will own nothing and be happy".
@@williamthompson4389 they are only interested is keeping the rich Rich the rest of us do not matter I worked from 15 to 60 it is horrendous that they have denied us the winter fuel money and if they stop the council tax discount they will put a lot of elderly people in a difficult situation call them selves Labour Take Care
Stand up and be heard that's why they keep abusing their responsibility to govern properly PENSIONERS ARE EASY TARGETS HOW ABOUT STOP PAYING MILLIONS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,WITH OUR TAXES
Let it be crystal clear in the mind of every English man. No one should have to pay to live on their own land.
What about pay for use of local services and infrastructure?
@@stephenwhiddett local bins charged per household on collection. clearing hedrows and curbways, the collective village or area. i live i a country where there is no tax. on land or property. if you grow your own, you live free. they work as a community. trash is either collected or taken to the municipal dump. it works well. need build, not need planning permission. etc. The village has a wat, a Buddhist temple. They keep all the shared community property. Tents for weddings and funerals, large pans and cookware. All events such as weddings are organised by the village. all preparation done by the village. the western model is one of suck the people dry until they die.
Sounds amazing. Where is this?@@nothinghere1996
A single person should pay only 50% council tax, a single person has a much lower demand on the limited resources a local council has than a household with two adults a multiple children
Why should a single person who is already paying more to live than a couple, pay even more to subsidise those who have large numbers of children for both religious and cultural reasons?
If you have more than 2 children you should pay more council tax to cover the costs that having excess children bring to society
Is it still the case, that should a follower if the Islamic religion has set aside a room in his house as a prayer room he is exempt from council tax?
@@jackieporter5323 Just Googled this..."Do you need to pay Council Tax if you have a prayer room?
The owner of the property should pay Council Tax. The owner can claim a discount for members of a religious community who live in the property and whose main occupation is prayer, contemplation, education or the relief of suffering."
That then becomes poll tax which is what we fought not to have…
@@jackieporter5323 "A person may not have to pay Council Tax if they are a member of a religious community where the principal occupation is prayer, contemplation, education, the relief of suffering or any combination of these." Every time this is deleted, I'll post it back here, again!
Why should I pay full council tax just for having my 1 bin a fortnight emptied,sometimes I dont put them out as there is only a few bits in it it's not fair
Thats what happens when people vote for WEF puppits.
Schwab and co have penetrated governments around the world to push their evil agenda. Not conspiracy. He smugly said it himself. Starmer is a member of the Fabian Society whose logo is a wolf in sheep’s clothing!!! Also a member of the Trilateral commission. Says it all.
They're ALL puppets, regardless of "party".
They want to do it - which is why it’s been leaked. They may not do it because of the pushback / the point is - THEY WANT TO DO IT
@@jasonbuksh2958 I agree
You are right.
They will do it, they do not care about us, it has been leaked purposefully so that there isn't so much of a shock when it's announced
This would be a massive blow. I knew Labour would be bad, but I honestly didn't think they would place so much of the extra tax burden on the poor.
It was ironic to see KS on video tape in the Commons previously indignantly castigating the Tory PM that he might be looking to scrap WFA, but it was a Labour PM that took it away.
I take it you don't remember the last labour government or any of the ones before !
Yesterday, I met up with a dyed in the wool Labour supporter who has never broken faith with them at anytime in his life .... until now. I avoided any mention of the dangers we pensioners are facing but, without prompting, he said he couldn't believe what this government was doing and wouldn't have voted for them in July if he'd had any idea of what they intended; furthermore, he would never trust them again no matter what they did from here onward. I welcomed his conversion, but it may well prove too late for the millions who planned their lives properly but will live out their days in misery.
Why? They've always done it, now they just carrying on
And the alternative to Labour is Tory and look what a mess that has been.
Hammer single occupants but continue blowing £10 million per day on hotels for illegal immigrants.
were doing that because the Tories decided to break the system
Exactly, England is a tiny country, there is already too much competition for Jobs/ doctors/ housing and yet the government say's everyone is welcome to come to England
When i was working i had to get council tax discount as a single person and honestly i wouldnt have been able to afford to eat if i hadnt had it, what the hell is going on, this isnt just tory austerity this is worse than anything ive ever seen the tories do.
@SuzanneJones-qy3zh I don't know why your ranting angrily in my direction but okay, pension credit is a benefit and always was and has been, nothing wrong with that at all. Benefits are good for everyone.
Communists always destroy.
@@dl-vb4vm spot on the money is going in the wrong direction
Tories would have got there eventually.
@@SuzanneJones-qy3zh Bless you and thank you
People voted labour . You were warned. Got money for dingy divers but not UK people
But they never listen, country full of dum dum's.
Only 34% of people who actually voted in an historically low turnout..Actually voted Labour!!!…. So don’t blame anyone without checking the facts…It is because so many people didn’t vote at all made it more likely that Labour would win in the ‘first past the post system’ !!!which does not reflect the dissatisfaction of the people at all… and has resulted in the undeserved massive majority ‘enjoyed’ by a sham government… who can now do anything they want without fear of a effective opposition of any kind!!….!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬
Nobody voted labour, complete scam
Never ever before have I witnessed a manifestation of such pure evil and lies.
WELL put mate.
Maybe those with 6+ residents should pay 6* times as they use more resources. That’s fair and communism Starmer
@@butlerpa100 That was the pole tax.
@@bermudarailway. And why not. That was the fairest way, then everybody pays for all the ameinties, not just the people struggling to keep a roof over their heads.
@@emilysweet9082 The problem with the PollTax is that it was a flat rate for rich and poor. It needs to be a combined Poll Tax and home value. So that the rate would not be too high for poor people but not too low for extremely rich people.
@@susanwestern6434 Why then should some one pay more for the same sevices cause they work harder? or pay less cause they are not capable.
There are thousands of young single people who will struggle without the discount, many on low income, some struggling to repay debt from university. They don't all have parents who can help out
Not just the young
If this disgusting Labour shower can get away with scrapping the single persons council tax discount they will certainly do it they must be fought by the nation to kick them out of power.
We should scrap Reeves
How would this not hit ordinary working people, the very people Starmer promised to protect ?
"promised" by a politician is the quality part of that comment 😂😂😂😂
They dont keep promises
I live on my own , no kids, and I have disabilities. I don’t use sports facilities, schools, libraries. I produce very little rubbish. Why should I pay as much as my neighbour who has 3 kids and uses all of the above? It’s disgusting to even consider it, but nothing would surprise me with these corrupt liars who do more u turns than any other government I can remember and I am a pensioner 😡😡😡😡😡
Totally agree ,some of us live in Parish Councils where their portion is higher too.
As a single person, I question my reason for living more and more each day!
Don't let the turds get you down because you are a better person than they are or will ever be. Look into the mirror and you will see who you are worth living for.
KEEP GOING WE ARE ALL FEELING YOUR PAIN BUT NEVER GIVE UP HOPE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN WILL ALWAYS STAND TOGETHER IN TIMES OF TROUBLE....STAY STRONG.😉
Dont vote for Labour.
So widows lose winter fuel and now will pay an extra 25% and lose their bus passes
with everything taken away from OAP's will she trow us a bone for Christmas ??
@@neilgordon1034 lump of coal ...oh wait they've got rules on log burners
Stay strong. Karma will kick them out before the end of their term and if not then they sure as hell will not get re-elected.
And lost money by the cruel way the age went up for women I lost 25K that’s a lot of money
I think it should be pointed out that Councils are the bodies that set the Council Tax which created part of the Council income. A number of councils have been badgering the Govt to get rid of the 25% single person benefit and so increase their income or as in many cases reduce their massive debt. Although Councils set the Council Tax only the Govt can allow Councils to get rid of the 25% reduction for single occupants. If the 25% is scrapped the Govt will not see a penny of it,it will go into the Council coffers. It is utterly incompetent Councils,such as Nottingham and Birmingham,who are creating this problem.
Council tax goes to government first, only then the council. That's why councils are swimming in debt and going bankrupt.
A good chunk of council budgets are covered by central government grants. The proportions of homes in Council Tax bands will make some difference, but the biggest difference to incomes councils can raise locally is business rates.
Scrapping single person's discount would further benefit the wealthiest councils. They'd get 25% of more higher band charges.
25% of everyone’s council tax bill goes to paying pensions of current retired council employees, this is the one thing that needs sorting out, even if it was stopping the current arrangements for new employees.
If it was a private pension scheme it would have been shut down for not having enough funds.
Council tax goes into the Consolidation Fund and the government give back an allowance to the councils, where do you think the money going to Ukraine comes from? The money that would pay for the Zelensky potholes went there.
Add Warrington to your incompetent list.
Removing the 25% discount for single occupancy which actually means widows and widowers who have saved money for their funeral will be on average £800 taken from them by the government
As a single disabled person without children im scared of this. Like others have said why should i pay the same as for multiple children and adults. Due to my disability, i can't have children and i have never had a relationship. Its just punishment for failing to live to societal norms. I would love a partner to shoulder the burdens but nobody wants me, and i wouldn't want to have a partner because for various reasons. I don't know what to do if this comes in. Its another kick in the teeth. I feel really sorry for pensioners and other single people. It all just feels awful right now.
There is so much uncertainty and stress for people. It's terrible.
@@Disabilitytalkwithsteve And to boot they have kept the vile Tory assessment process that has caused so much distress to the disabled. I'm disgusted with Starmer.
single disabled, no kids, single person discount and council tax support. if Spd goes, that'll be £300 i'll have to pay PA, maybe more. maybe they'll means test the SPD as they do council tax support.
The man is the only politician who I can remember who treats the people with contempt. Step down starmer! Even labour supporters are disgusted with him. Good luck people stay free. 🇬🇧
Did Boris not do that under Covid
Partying while people were dying under his covid rules
Starmer doesn’t care about anyone but himself free gear Kier is self serving and will do whatever he wants without a thought for the people of this country budget day will be a disaster for us all he will wring us dry and put it down to the “black hole “ Labour need to go now
WILL SERIOUSLY THINK OF NOT PAYING IT, HAVE A HOLIDAY IN PRISON, FREE FOOD,HEATING ,WATER,TV, I'M 86
And access to free and speedy dental and medical care. I could come out a new person.
At that age you shouldn’t have to pay anyway
So you remember the poll tax what happened when Thatcher tried to bring that about.
You won't be sent to prison, there isn't enough room!!!😊
I've thought for years now that the single person occupancy should be 50% not 25%, it would be ridiculous to scrap the 25% CT discount, that really wouldn't be fair at all and would affect millions of people who are struggling as it is.
I can understand council tax goes towards the emergency services too, but my waste bins don't need to be emptied every week. My recycling bin is emptied once a month and my household waste bin is emptied something like once every two to three months.
Get rid of these clowns now!!!!!!!!
Non of our political parties have consciously made life better for the ordinary citizen.
But life for all MPs is very comfortable,them and us has to stop.
Poll tax destroyed Thatcher's career could council tax do the same comrade Starmer career
Careful what you wish for. Don’t forget who the next in line for the leaders job is…..the woman with zero fashion sense and who left school with more kids than qualifications.
HOPE SO,
No.the brits are not strong like they used to be.
The council tax is the most unfair tax ever devised as it doesn't take into account the ability to pay the value of your house isnt income.The poll tax was much fairer as everybody had to pay towards local services which everybody has access to but the way that it was implemented was wrong the Tories lost their nerve when renta crowd took to the streets so now we are stuck with council tax which only householders have to pay whilst everybody else gets a free ride.
Worked all my life get a pension of £202 20p a week. Also private pension of £200 a month which I paid for myself. Because of my private pension I have to pay council tax of £136 a month cant claim for glasses or dental care. Fell over at the beginning of the year and broke my glasses cost £250 to replace so that was 4 months with no private pension. Starmer has stopped my £200 winter heating allowance. Friend of mine in and out of work until the age of 40 when he managed to get full benefits Now claiming almost £1400 a month plus free rent. Pays £12 a month council tax gets £300 a year heating allowance. Free glasses free dental treatment and what ever else he can get. Even Starmer gets free glasses and I bet they cost more than £250. Also I have to buy my own clothes unlike Starmer and his wife.
So wrong, so unfair. The system rewards and punishes the wrong people. Work hard, pay tax, contribute, be responsible, independent and prudent, save and later in life get hammered and rejected. On the other had blow the lot and then get given everything. No incentive. They take off one and give to the other. We pay tax on income, everything we spend, our savings and then your death. Inheritance tax is a tax on everything left over from paying tax all your life. They make us pay 20% vat on the tax they add as fuel duty. Tax on top of tax. Most People are not aware. My lifetime accumulated wealth is my kids future to pay their student loans off and afford a house and afford to live. Labour think 52% of it is theirs. It f******g isn’t. They won’t get a penny of it. I will do whatever it takes. Blow it, bury it or leave the country. I don’t want to do any of that, but I feel I have to. The problem is within a few years, we will be a cashless society, AI will monitor everything thing we have, spend and do. Our money and wealth will be in plain view, auto taxed and we will basically have a social credit system. They will legislate a system, Step out of line, be criminalised and your fines will be deducted at source. I don’t want or need much, just be free and left alone and keep what is mine, what I have worked for, risks taken and earned. I am an ordinary person, not extreme but I have slowly come to despise the government, mistrust authorities and consider them my most hated enemy. Reading the comments, many feel the same. I did not like the Tories either, but this lot make me sick. I’m so angry. I have friends who voted for this lot. Idiots, I told them what these communists would be like and they were too stupid to understand. Now they will suffer. I’m struggling to have anything to do with them. I’m trying not to be like that, but I just can’t forgive that level of ignorance or stupidity. We need rid of Labour and people need to not forget.
@@Bobcat-k7g You put it a lot better than I did. Thank you
@@tedelliott4577 Sorry, I woke up at 5am. Spent 2 hours getting wound up on RUclips and had a rant. 🤣. Been for a walk in the woods. Calm now.
@@Bobcat-k7g nothing to apologise for. Nice to know someone agrees with me
Hi . I've been retired for two years next January. Being a widow now for the last 4 years. To say life as been difficult doesn't cover it. Trying to make sure that I have enough money to pay my way is very stressful. Food rent gas and electricity water rates car insurance and car road tax coucil tax petrol. What is left. ? Kier Starmer and Rachel Reeves now decided that it's a good idea to stop winter fuel payment while paying for illegal migrants to live for free at a cost of 14 billion pound all inclusive living. All the politicians and whoever as anything to do with the decision making process should stop and think about the consequences of their decision.
I receive the discount, as a pensioner I have already lost £300 WFA. To lose the 25% discount will cost me close to an extra £600/year. £900 total. Thankyou starmer.
Meanwhile, Starmer's wife spends £76k "donations" on fancy clothes.
I would be losing £800 a month between the 25% discount and the winter fuel allowance.
@@karenhill3161same here.
So used to get free tv like me , lost that £200 more so 1£1100 before tax u pay I do so u losing £1300 gross ffs this is poverty inducing policies !!!!
The issue is that Labour despises what they see as 'wealthy pensioners'. So they want to means test everything and get more people on benefits. Then they can control lives even more...horrific govt...
Most of the wealthy pensioners are in Parliament getting their cheap meals and £300 + eveyday!
I'm just glad that I never voted for Labour.
According to a labour woman on last nights Question Time,they are leaving the council tax alone ,,we will see because we all know they always tell the truth 💩
The discount should be 75%, not 25%.
How can it be fair for one person to pay the same as a family of six?
I can’t understand how that is justified, seems wrong.
Labour want your homes..... to house those coming across the channel in dingys
The very idea is disgusting. Why should I pay 100 % - a single person who rents, when a household with 4 working people only pay 25% each. Load of filthy rats.
The single person discount affects all single person households, i live alone struggle to live and hope the discount is not removed as i will be up £500 a year.
Yeah, watch this space. I’m a pensioner living alone why should I pay the same as a family with multiple occupants in their house. And no I’m not a well off pensioner, I am 73, not entitled to any benefits & still work part time. I also get the old level of state pension & pay tax on my occupational pension & my earnings which aren’t huge. I’m sick of people saying pensioners are well off & deserve to be screwed over 🤬🤬🤬
Yeah, a lot of pensioners are not even getting by on what they get.
Gets even better when you find out the amount of councillors who are ALLOWED TO NOT PAY COUNCIL TAX themselves .Bloody criminal what these people get away with .
Under Labour if this discount is scrapped I will be £8 a week worse off, with the fuel price rise another £8 and with the coming diesel and petrol rises another £8..... and they said we definitley wouldnt raise taxes, just under £100 a month, just like that !!!
But they were voted in to stop austerity, LIEBOUR.
Bring in child tax more than three pay 125% council tax...
Migrants wont have to many kids
Jobless (philpot) wont be a burden
Less NHS burden
Less School burden
Living alone is not usually the fault of someone, it is the way life has been thrown at them usually. It is also more expensive than otherwise.
Fault ?? It's a choice in majority of cases and on the rise ! That's like a single person saying it's not their fault they are a couple!!
How much more can we endure?
What the f will this Labour government also inflict on people, just to fill their own pockets? Single occupants are usually older people whose partner has died so, again, this government is fleecing pensioners 🤮
As a pensioner if this happens we’ll have to find another 1000 per year when added to winter fuel payment and that’s out of one of the lowest pensions in Europe. He forgets it was the poll tax that did for Thatcher. We didn’t endure 14 years of austerity for this government to make even more swinging cuts. Invest in people, repair roads, build infrastructure and this will employ ordinary people who will take their money and spend it and keep local businesses going. Give the rich breaks and they’ll stuff it in offshore accounts.
Better to double or treble the council tax on second homes and holiday property then we may get some back for young single people to be able to afford a home at all.
Horrible labour government I’m voting for Nigel farage next time
So if you voted for this then, I could have forwarned you!
Oh God help you
Labour wont get in for years after this crippling term. This government is not fit for the good of the country..
I think that's what the Tories were banking on..............left the country in a total mess knowing the next Government would have to try and sort it out and would be very unpopular!
Trouble is the country will be well and truly screwed by that time.
Pension is set to rise by £460 next April apparently. I have a small private pension which means I already pay income tax so I will lose 20% of that immediately, that leaves £368. Remove my £300 heating allowance and I am down to an increase of £68. Remove the single person council tax discount and I am already several hundred pounds worse off.
Inflation is also way above the official government figures. My car insurance doubled this year, my house Insurance went up about 30%, Gas electricity and water bills will go up. Food prices are rising much more than the 2.2% official figures and then you have shrinkflation on top of that even in shops like Aldi and Lidl. That is without the October budget rises. 2025 is going to be a very hard year. I worked from age 17 to age 70, now aged 77.
It's appalling. They tell you to work longer but you get less.
Well they do need more cash for illegal wars and illegal immigration.
Scrap the Council Tax,
Scrap the Clean Air Zone Charges.
Scrap the Non Resident Care Charges.
@@iangeorgewhatton7541 They will be trying to put a tax on how much air you breath a day soon
Then scrap the Labour Party
@@stevemoore4284 these policies above were all Conservative ideas conservatives brought in Council Tax, The Clean Air Charges, and the Non Residential Care Charges.
They were not Labour Policies.
If the backlash is big enough, they will DEFINITELY do it.
The 25% council tax discount was brought in to make the council tax a bit fairer
Dont forget "you will own nothing and be happy" klaus schwab, kier starmers boss...
Council tax should end. It should be replaced by something similar to the old rates.
I thought that it was?
@@malcky630 No, it hasn't been.
I agree with the comment from Michael, a single person's tax should be 50 %.. My rubbish is so minimal after recycling. What else do we get from the council...not a lot..?
Imagine being a pensioner or a single occupier & having voted Labour 😂😂😂😂😂
HAHAHA, well said it serves em right.
Most disabled people I know of working age are single, yet nobody ever mentions us.
Yes that is true.
Here comes the new version of the poll tax. That went down well didn't it. Stasi needs to go ASAP.
There were riots last time
Poll Tax was Introduced by
Mgt Thatcher.
And yet, the poll tax was fair. 4 Working adults in a house paying the same CT as a single widow/widower? Is that fair?
They don't care if it upsets people! They want you to take immigrants in!
It will affect me and many of my friends on very low incomes. If the council reduced the allowance to 20% instead of 25% off, it wouldn't be such a massive blow to single households , rather than taking all of it off in one go!
Labour have already made me £25 a month worse off with no winter fuel allowance now they want to take more . I’m so glad I never voted and will never vote for them . It’s bad enough losing my wife now they expect me to pay for losing her .
Apparently if all the non voters had voted for other parties other than labour then labour would not have won.
@@dazdaz105 yep I thought that might be a possibility .
As council services are mostly per person not per house, it'd be fairer if we had something like the poll tax, where everyone pays a smaller amount than at present.
In essence the original concept was a sensible one for a civilised society but we of a certain age all know what happened to that idea with the ‘politically motivated riots' of the time!
Pensioners have done their bit
If he removes single person council tax discount, he can forget about a second term, never mind the 10 year term he said he’s hoping for ! This is an outrage !! We shouldn’t have to pay the same as 2 income households!!
It takes me more than 2 months to fill up my wheelie bin and I'm not draining the coffers in other ways, so even with the 25% I'm already being scalped
Same. I'm not sure what I'm actually paying for. Basically just legal theft
It should be 50% not 25%.
If the discount is scrapped everyone use what it's paid for,,, Police, bin men, roads, fire brigade. You all know ways to get what you've paid for......
I literally work less hours pointless working full time all these silly taxes you end up with nothing the system is broken
He just hates us
Apparently Reeves is going to leave it to councils discretion, but the Majority of councils need the money so its highly likely.
The fact that they neither confirm or deny it is very telling .
Yes, my thoughts exactly
Starmas labour got less than 20% of the vote which means he doesn't have a mandate to govern. The King should dissolve parliament and order a new election.
I totally agree with you.
@@Michael-r2c8k The King is a WEF supporter so there is no chance of him dissolving parliament.
It’s shocking, council tax is a very unfair method of taxation. Community charge was the only fair local tax.
Labour gov rich government not labourers but rich people who didn’t have a vacancy in conservative gov.
So I'm going to have to pay full Council tax? What the absolute fuck is this?
Liz Kendal said on Question Time tonight, that the removal of the 25% being removed from council tax was not going to happen. Same with the free bus pass, it will stay in place.
What politicians say and what happens are two different things. I wouldn't trust anything they say
This country has always suffered from the politics of envy. People who work hard and achieve something that they wanted at the time are seen at the end of that pathway somehow as though “they got lucky” or “they must have fiddled their way there”. Modern day governments stoke this form of envy up also. They see a house and believe the occupiers “have money” whereas the opposite is true. The house may (or may not) be worth something, but the occupiers are likely broke. They have very little ready money, precisely because most of it goes to servicing the property. This scenario also plays out for many living on their own in rented accommodation. When someone is left without their other supporting loved one, or have struggled alone for many years, why are they penalised? What sort of society does that? Only one that cares little. It wasn’t long ago that people with second and third homes got a second / third home discount on the tax? Government has ceased to make any sense, and acts moronic as long as it can feed itself. It has ceased to look after its own people and I truly believe we are reaching a time when we have had enough and the ‘system’ will be pulled down unless it reforms itself into removing the lying, cheating and fraudulent corruption it has become whilst ever seeking ordinary folk pay excessively for their excesses.
Envy?😂
@@netcurtains You obviously haven’t been there, done it. It is a recognised condition, but hey, one day you may discover the facts.
Scrapping this would put my bill up by £560 a year. I get nothing but a bin empty for what I pay now. This will be the “poll tax” moment for labour. If this is an aim phase it out over 5 years. To remove it immediately is suicidal for this government.
As a single person home owner, this doesn't just affect myself, but it's yet ANOTHER nail in the coffin of pensioners, many of whom are living alone too.
Why should one person pay as much as a family who have multiple wages coming in, I couldnt stand Maggie but that was the one thing I did agree with. Everyone should pay their fair share not just the people who live on their own.
Single people only have one wage coming in
Wouldn’t surprise me if they exclude pensioners but every one else would loose it.Single people need to write to there MP and make it clear how unhappy you are.We can not allow this government to get away with this policy.
THEY won`t spare the pensioners.
Let’s wait and see
If they take it away from benefit claimants. It will mean they have to add the whole council tax bill on. So win-win for benefit claimers as per usual. Mean while. All those illegals and criminals released from prison (who have no place to live) get first dibs on housing and hotel rooms. Which the rest of us are paying for!!!
Should be 75% off.