I love Hardinge. I have 2 of their lathes. Good to see these automatics still working. I think it’s a stretch to call them simpler. Probably better to say they’re complicated but in an observable way that mechanically minded people can understand.
This is a little badass lathe! Love Hardinge machines. A lot of machinist used to call them boat anchors in my shop, but that's because they don't know how to use them. Hardinge machines are thee mark of precision! Especially chuckers with threading head attachments and tool room models. Shame that their no longer manufactured anymore... Great video Freddy!
Ran one for years, what a precision part making machine. I made tens of thousands of parts on these machines. Spent decades machining, running many other manual lathes too. Back in the 70's 1000 part runs no problem. Two to three days. Next. Setup is key. This is how they are run, with oil, old sulfur based stinky oil.
This is the very first machine I ran. Hydraulics and cams is what made those axis and turret move. 1979 was the year, the peak of manufacturing jobs. DSM 59 Automatic was a workhorse and I made 100 of thousands of parts on. It was old in 79. Don't many of left who worked of old machines. The oldest machine I ever worked on was 1880s. Flat belts were fun. My Father-in law told me he use to put a squirt of oil on the belt when management would come around with a stopwatch. Then he spray some stop slip when he left. Yep. Very few of us old coots left in the machining industry.
Nice to be here just found this channel Hardinge is a great machine the turret attachment is nice to see and see you using it. We use the USA made Levin lathe Turret on an instrument bed lathe. We love our machine, it makes smaller parts then you get to make but we love it anyways. Be proud of your GREAT Hardinge Lathe machine, and thanks to you for sharing it and we could watch you make parts all the day long, Lance & Patrick.
My best friend designed that part chute and the vertical cutoff (and tons of other stuff). He worked for Hardinge for 48 years. I worked there for 42 years.
@@berniepragle948 That's very cool. Ran one of these for years. I never needed to look at the vertical control power box or the adjustable feeds control panel. I could run and vary adjustments by feeling my hand over all controls. Most satisfying machine I ever ran.
@@x2malandy Hardinge was an amazing place to work. We did everything in-house that we possibly could. I used to joke that we made everything in our machines except the switches and light bulbs. At one time nearly 2,000 people worked there. Then around 2000, we went public, the beancounters took over, we started outsourcing everything, and it all went to shid. I retired Oct 2015. I have very fond memories of my earlier and mid years there and try to forget the last 5 to 10. Hardinge is now owned by some money fund out of Philadelphia. Sad.
Totally can relate I'm making my own machines so I can make my own parts that will be copied. Oh well, hopefully I can get a decent return before that happens. Excellent work. Good luck.
Absolutely fabulous! It was very interesting!!! Would you mind sharing the cost?(machine)I know tooling adds up quick. I'm working on paying off a used bridgeport. Luckily my former employer loved my work. I do miss the go fast videos, but this is good stuff. I've never had the chance to work with machinery like this. My maching experience is engine lathes, manual mills and CNC of various sorts. The Joys of machining I swear.
Hey man would you happen to have the electrical manual for that machine? I recently got one and was able to download the maintenance and operator manual from vintage machine but wasn’t able to find the electrical drawing. My spindle motor won’t come on. There is 110v to the contact but it appears that the contact is mechanically lock by some sort of switch on the left side
Very cool! Can you explain briefly how the machine is "programmed"? (I'm a hardinge HVL-H owner) - also - I was amazed at the speed at which the spindle reverses for the tapping operation - how does the drive work?
gheumann if it's like one I worked on decades ago turrrent operated by series of trip levers and abutment screws...spindle speeds gears and determining ratios..dead stops on slides no programming all manual if you want one you can program get a brown and sharp with servo can control...or brown and sharp ptc.get rid of Allen Bradley contrrol..its junk.put a Fanuc control
Did you get cams made for this job or are you using pick up cams? I used to run the screwmachine department for my old company back in the 80's I would love to just retire and have some part to make in my retirement for side money.
Wondering if you're still responding to posts here? It looks like that may be an ASM? I just got one and am looking for what coolant oil to use. Is it just dark cutting oil? Brand and model you use?
It's a DSMA (single spindle auto matic turret lathe. These small machines like straight cutting oil. Use sulfurized oil if you are machining difficult to machine materials like stainless. Machining brass or aluminum doesn't need anything fancy.
@@turrettooling1968 I just now saw this, didn't get a notification of your response. Mines still sitting for a few reasons. I'm afraid of the challenge going by word of mouth reports, I need to reconfig the shop to make a home for it, and also I need to run power for it. Hoping to use a little VFD so I don't have to run the RPC. You have that working real nice it looks.
Well Alex, Unenslaved2012 (I like your handle), your explanation is somewhat correct. We live in a Country where lawsuits are prevalent. I didn't want to find myself in a lawsuit, where one of my customers was maimed because of racing on the street using one of my motors. I don't want to encourage street racing by doing it myself and publishing videos of it. It's too bad that I removed those fun videos, but I felt like I had to to protect everything I've worked so hard to build for the last 25 years. The courts support litigation because it ensures their own parasitic job security. An unfortunate consequence of this is now, American manufacturers are very hesitant to produce anything which someone could hurt themselves with.
wow thats so different for my country australia. there is law suits but not to the extent that happens in usa.i my self use to love going fast as posssible down the biggest hill i could find but if i came off at that speed i wouldent blame someone else for getting hert because no one else told me to go that fast it was all up to me so it makes no sence to me to go and make a law suit when the only person to blame is your self.
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I love Hardinge. I have 2 of their lathes. Good to see these automatics still working. I think it’s a stretch to call them simpler. Probably better to say they’re complicated but in an observable way that mechanically minded people can understand.
This is a little badass lathe! Love Hardinge machines. A lot of machinist used to call them boat anchors in my shop, but that's because they don't know how to use them. Hardinge machines are thee mark of precision! Especially chuckers with threading head attachments and tool room models. Shame that their no longer manufactured anymore... Great video Freddy!
Ran one for years, what a precision part making machine. I made tens of thousands of parts on these machines. Spent decades machining, running many other manual lathes too. Back in the 70's 1000 part runs no problem. Two to three days. Next. Setup is key. This is how they are run, with oil, old sulfur based stinky oil.
This is the very first machine I ran. Hydraulics and cams is what made those axis and turret move. 1979 was the year, the peak of manufacturing jobs. DSM 59 Automatic was a workhorse and I made 100 of thousands of parts on. It was old in 79. Don't many of left who worked of old machines. The oldest machine I ever worked on was 1880s. Flat belts were fun. My Father-in law told me he use to put a squirt of oil on the belt when management would come around with a stopwatch. Then he spray some stop slip when he left. Yep. Very few of us old coots left in the machining industry.
I set up & run the old Brown & Sharpe screw machines. Never got to see an automatic Hardinge lathe run. I like it. Thanks for posing :)
Just wanted to thank you for all these videos. I'm getting my feet wet with old school automatic lathes and there are just a few videos on RUclips
Pretty nice video. I ran Davenports for 25 years. This is the first time I have seen a Harding...nice work.
Nice to be here just found this channel Hardinge is a great machine the turret attachment is nice to see and see you using it. We use the USA made Levin lathe Turret on an instrument bed lathe. We love our machine, it makes smaller parts then you get to make but we love it anyways.
Be proud of your GREAT Hardinge Lathe machine, and thanks to you for sharing it and we could watch you make parts all the day long, Lance & Patrick.
Yes, I thought it was interesting. Used to work with lathes like this back in 1972-1973, haven't seen one in operation since then. Cheers / B.
I've used Hardinge manual 2nd Op lathes and even Hardinge CNC lathes but never an automatic. Fun to watch.
Love that part chute just flying into the frame lol. nice old peice of machinery
My best friend designed that part chute and the vertical cutoff (and tons of other stuff). He worked for Hardinge for 48 years. I worked there for 42 years.
@@berniepragle948 That's very cool. Ran one of these for years. I never needed to look at the vertical control power box or the adjustable feeds control panel. I could run and vary adjustments by feeling my hand over all controls. Most satisfying machine I ever ran.
@@x2malandy
Hardinge was an amazing place to work. We did everything in-house that we possibly could. I used to joke that we made everything in our machines except the switches and light bulbs. At one time nearly 2,000 people worked there. Then around 2000, we went public, the beancounters took over, we started outsourcing everything, and it all went to shid. I retired Oct 2015. I have very fond memories of my earlier and mid years there and try to forget the last 5 to 10. Hardinge is now owned by some money fund out of Philadelphia. Sad.
I got to set up and operate one of these a long time ago at A-Dec dental equipment. Thanks for posting this, brings back good memories.
The most accurate lathe ever made because of the dovetail bed i bope they are still in business
Thanks Fred. Very interesting! I ll take that over cnc. I'm old school.
Man what a fantastic elegant machine like watching a pre electronics robot - old reliable - fantastic.
I found it interesting, never seen one of these in action in real life. My machines are quite different.
I love Hardinge, I've it's a Hardinge, it's a pleasure to work with.
great video, thanks for sharing .. so much better than the fireplace on TV ..
Wonderful video, beautiful machine, it's a shame they always end up being scrapped first.
To be fair that the smoothest I've see a capstan run nice job
Totally can relate I'm making my own machines so I can make my own parts that will be copied. Oh well, hopefully I can get a decent return before that happens. Excellent work. Good luck.
That was beutiful. Can you do another video of that machine with a wider view, so we can see the whole machine in action?
Better than a movie. I love machines!
Good machine ,good setting,good job,good material,Looking very nice.Okay. Thks.
Im still stumped on how you setup those supported cutters to the proper diameter. I can't get mine to work out for me.
Man I have made many, many parts on those machines 👍
Thank you for video.
Awesome share, thanks for uploading, it was enjoyable to watch.
Absolutely fabulous! It was very interesting!!! Would you mind sharing the cost?(machine)I know tooling adds up quick. I'm working on paying off a used bridgeport. Luckily my former employer loved my work.
I do miss the go fast videos, but this is good stuff. I've never had the chance to work with machinery like this. My maching experience is engine lathes, manual mills and CNC of various sorts. The Joys of machining I swear.
Hey man would you happen to have the electrical manual for that machine? I recently got one and was able to download the maintenance and operator manual from vintage machine but wasn’t able to find the electrical drawing. My spindle motor won’t come on. There is 110v to the contact but it appears that the contact is mechanically lock by some sort of switch on the left side
Keep up the good work!
Really enjoyed it myself!
we use these for secondary work on parts that come off of tornos SAS 16's and AS 14's
Keep up with these videos... THERE GREAT!
es posible programar para que trabaje 2 o mas herramientas a la vez ?
Very cool! Can you explain briefly how the machine is "programmed"? (I'm a hardinge HVL-H owner) - also - I was amazed at the speed at which the spindle reverses for the tapping operation - how does the drive work?
gheumann if it's like one I worked on decades ago turrrent operated by series of trip levers and abutment screws...spindle speeds gears and determining ratios..dead stops on slides no programming all manual if you want one you can program get a brown and sharp with servo can control...or brown and sharp ptc.get rid of Allen Bradley contrrol..its junk.put a Fanuc control
Did you do a cnc conversion?
Did you get cams made for this job or are you using pick up cams? I used to run the screwmachine department for my old company back in the 80's I would love to just retire and have some part to make in my retirement for side money.
Have fun changing those belts yet...get yr hands black and slimey...
Was volunteered for that duty once
Esta maquina e muito top trabalhar com ela.
That was great.From india
What does it take to become a machinist?
What coolant is that? It looks like neat oil?
Wondering if you're still responding to posts here? It looks like that may be an ASM? I just got one and am looking for what coolant oil to use. Is it just dark cutting oil? Brand and model you use?
It's a DSMA (single spindle auto matic turret lathe. These small machines like straight cutting oil. Use sulfurized oil if you are machining difficult to machine materials like stainless. Machining brass or aluminum doesn't need anything fancy.
@@turrettooling1968 I just now saw this, didn't get a notification of your response. Mines still sitting for a few reasons. I'm afraid of the challenge going by word of mouth reports, I need to reconfig the shop to make a home for it, and also I need to run power for it. Hoping to use a little VFD so I don't have to run the RPC. You have that working real nice it looks.
chips evacuation in that machine.....could be a problem ..but i need one like this
Good afternoon friend what is the model of this machine its name
beats doing the turnings by hand. :P
Muito bom e tornear e é 100%
What are you making?
Now to go copy your part with a cnc machine.
Why don't you do motorised bike videos anymore
Well Alex, Unenslaved2012 (I like your handle), your explanation is somewhat correct. We live in a Country where lawsuits are prevalent. I didn't want to find myself in a lawsuit, where one of my customers was maimed because of racing on the street using one of my motors. I don't want to encourage street racing by doing it myself and publishing videos of it. It's too bad that I removed those fun videos, but I felt like I had to to protect everything I've worked so hard to build for the last 25 years. The courts support litigation because it ensures their own parasitic job security. An unfortunate consequence of this is now, American manufacturers are very hesitant to produce anything which someone could hurt themselves with.
wow thats so different for my country australia. there is law suits but not to the extent that happens in usa.i my self use to love going fast as posssible down the biggest hill i could find but if i came off at that speed i wouldent blame someone else for getting hert because no one else told me to go that fast it was all up to me so it makes no sence to me to go and make a law suit when the only person to blame is your self.
I ran crap like this in the 70s. Works great till you need parts to fix the machine. No problem with new stuff.
Me gusta cuanto cuesta un torno haci informe gracias
Did this in 1975.
Boa tarde! Estou por aqui viu com você, cheguei pra ficar,,estamos juntos vamos somar e fortalecer nossos trabalhos.Te espero nas inscrições pode ser? Boa tarde
sorry fred i have been wacthing been kind of do a bunch of suff.
I have a machine what it is second modal machine 1" size price
This machine Questions
I have a dsma in great shape and can't give it away.u don't understand.
Did you like to sale the Harding lathe machine
Hard work? Looks like you sit around making videos and counting the parts the machine makes for you!