you should totally do a video watching some iconic homestuck fan creations! broadway karkat (karkalicious my beloved), the animations (lullaby for gods, mambostuck, after us, ichellor's amazing 3d animations, etc), you cant fight the homestuck and other fan parodies. theres a lot of great/funny/iconic stuff
@@guiltyflygon this kind of sent me on a spiral of my favorite iconic homestuck videos and i have actually put together a list with links oops! dont feel pressured but these i think would be fun to watch you watch! mambostuck: ruclips.net/video/putjAaQTUbU/видео.html lullaby for gods: ruclips.net/video/QKfP9N28buk/видео.html rex duodecim angelus: ruclips.net/video/-19Up0dLzNw/видео.html you cant fight the homestuck: ruclips.net/video/jrhTB2Sij8c/видео.html After us: ruclips.net/video/OE0_eNIJuE8/видео.html Amsterdam: ruclips.net/video/vHSKbnkq2bU/видео.html karkalicious: ruclips.net/video/IWcb2pdgZTc/видео.html (and if youd like MORE boradway karkat after that masterpiece i recommend: caliginous waltz, [s]karkat: be a fanboy, GFDI Dave, a gristmas carol) crescendo: ruclips.net/video/ys5_QEmUEb8/видео.html
I second this. Literally just searching up “Homestuck Animation” you get tons of peak, like RDA, a bunch of Lyricstuck stuff like counting stars, warriors, the like. Also music- The Baby is You was great and has a nice animation for it, Phemiec’s songs, soundtrack remixes… the list can go on.
I feel like the reason why most people say characters like Davepeta and Jane, wasted or last second characters, are their favorites is that people sort of mix Headcanon, Canon, Fanon, since Homestuck ended about eight years ago, and the info can get a bit muddled in that time. Also, sometimes people rank the characters as What They Could Have Been, over what they are. Davepeta being this hybrid of forgotten characters, doing things unintended by the game to become game breaking, returning relevancy to Davesprite, the disregarded duplicate of 'The Real Dave', and Nepeta, one of the first trolls to die, and the least characterized, giving them both time to flesh out and characterize their individual pieces... instead of being Cat!Dave for about a dozen pages. Also I agree with most of your rankings I heavily disagree with like, three. Mayor belongs in Homestick, Scratch belongs in Pretty Cool, and The Terezi ancestor should at least be Mid. Also I'm gonna start doing a thing where I reply to individual points rather than just posting a thesis. Some of these are genuine, some of these are just me being silly. 11:35 Whaaaaat? How could yous forget aboubt dear sweet Fefeta??? 17:28 I only like Evil Jade cause she's named Grimbark Jade by the fandom and I love her exclusively cause of the pun. Also I like her vibes 26:05 I like doc scratch exclusively because I have a love for condescending sassy villains. And I steal and modify his lines for my own ttrpg villains 32:00 RUUUUUFIIIIIOOOOOOOOOHHHHH 35:30 I figured the point was that, by vriska choosing the path she did, she ruined her own happy ending. By refusing to change, by chasing the glory of Defeating The Big Bad, she condemned herself to never have a good ending. Vriska, in the new universe, could have been like Fishska. But because of her own choices, she literally ruined it for *herself*. 39:17 YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LETS GO BABY, IN THIS HOUSE WE LOVE CLUBS DEUCE 40:44 how... DARE you!!! YOU DARE DISRESPECT THE MAYOR OF CAN TOWN??? TEN YEARS IN CAN CONFINEMENT FOR YOU! 41:55 THAT IS THE ESTEEMED DR. MEOWGON SPANGLER!!! THE ILLUSTRIOUS VODKA MEWTINI!!! SUCH INSOLENCE!!! 42:25 Good dog, best friend. 44:10 All hail the esteemed Viceroy Casey 'Bubbles' Von Salamancer, first of their name. 44:30 I care about the felt... :( 45:20 HOW DARE- yeah I'm not doing the mock hysteria again. 54:10 I thought you were gonna say "Why do I think these characters were waisted? ...did you read the comic?" 54:45 In the ongoing series Homestuck Alternate Universe by FunkMcLovin, they're basically rewriting the story to improve on the original stuff. They gave Eridan this almost Vegeta esque "Proud Alternian Noble" thing, where he's really stressed about the survival of the troll race, and is ingrained in alternian values. And while that does show in the hemospectrum blood racism stuff, he also thinks fondly on their culture when he's on the meteor, and there's a scene where he has a kinda sweet moment with Kanaya where he basically says "I trust you, don't fuck this up" and reassures her about the matriorb. He;s still a dick to Sollux and the other lowbloods, but there's nuance to his character that's actually explored. 1:01:00 hOnK :o) 1:04:00 Oh yeah, I will not defend it, It's possibly the worst part of homestuck. 1:11:30 Why do you think Rose is my favorite Human and Kanaya is my favorite troll? You think it's because I relate to Jade's weird vibes and Kanaya's tendency to use big words? No, it's cause they're both my aspect!!!!! DUH 1:12:40 Roxxy My Belolvebd 1:14:30 Viska
I think the only issue with Vriska choosing a path that ultimately dooms her is that's not what actually happens lol. Vriska doesn't choose to go back to her old ways, John resets the timeline and Vriska is never given a chance to change lol. Not like it's his fault or anything, it's just also not Vriska's fault really, which ideally it should be.
Top 5 for me? Dirk, Karkat, Dave, Rose, Roxy. Maybe in that order? Homestuck on a whole did a really good job at making most of the characters feel like people even if some of them are just in the way. It’s wild how with as long as homestuck is, so many characters would’ve benefited from more screen time.
Davesprite and Salamancer in top tier, i am satisfied. Though heracy against mayor is just sad. I would personally place gamzee higher but the fact that people absolutely despise him is the appeal for me.
Ok idk how I've stumbled on a Homestuck video after YEARS but I guess I gotta go through your readalong playlist now, because I kinda love to see discussions of these characters! I really like how much insight you provide about the story structure and character developements (because god knows I was not critically thinking about any of it while I was rwading) So I'm kinda curious how the story holds up! Despite all of the frustrated rambling it does seem like you at least got very invested haha Having a Strider bias feels very relatable to me, at least from what I remember Dave and Dirk were very high up there for me. I am also kinda curious how much of my impression of all the characters was my own impressions vs what I just absorbed in the fandom? Someone already mentioned fan animations but what stuck with me a lot were the fan songs, specifically by PhemieC. They created individual songs for all the beta trolls, the kids some sprites and then some, which I admittedly still sometimes listen to😅 I found a playlist if you ever wanna check them out in your own time because I do genuienly think there are some good songs in there not always just musically but also in regards to what themes PhemieC decided to pick up (specifically in the troll songs) ruclips.net/p/PLEqd5lNyrSf8m2Cb6fAXsrui0KTs1spjt&si=EPJLVmbi74oX5Wta but I was wondering while watching you rank the trolls how much my enjoyment of them hinges on my nostalgia and song preferences haha Anyways, I'm looking forward to delve back into Homestuck with your videos and although I'm a bit late, at least I get to binge through it all! Hope you have a great day!
my faves are Jade, john, roxy, rose, terezi, karkat,caliope, caliborn, jack noir/spades slick and doc scratch (yes, controversial) c: top five? Rose, Terezi, Doc Scratch, Jade and Calliope. I DO like Kanaya, she's just not a FAVE. I also REALLY like davepeta for some reason but yeah still not a fave since they don't do much. I just think they're neat. Least liked: Vriska.
I still checking out another webcomic in this way would be fun, like el goonish shive or out of placers or the wotch or awful hospital. The only issue is they're not finished far as I am aware :/
Oh my gosh RUclips decided to eat my comment i am mad. The main things I think I mentioned were that: Lord English primarily takes from Caliborn. Everyone else in him basically just contributes small stuff like his muscles and HONK. Involving Jake and Jane's companies: Jane sure did name it Crocker Corp after she didn’t live up to her maid arc, huh. Hopefully that doesn’t imply something. Jake hiring Dirk isn’t too big of a deal. It very likely is Jake being the face of the company while Dirk is the one actually running stuff. There is weird stuff about their relationship outside of Homestuck proper, but it's not related to the company at all. The characters are Not the rulers of each kingdom. I think that it was just showing off that the kingdoms exist, not that they run them. As for my top 5 ignoring the epilogues and stuff to the best of my abilities (and not in any particular order): Dirk, Dave, Roxy, Caliborn, and either Karkat or Vriska depending on the mood. The Strilondes are self explanatory. I like Caliborn because he's the antagonist we get the most personality of and I really like that he's a super petty guy that is just the worst in a mostly comedic way. I really like characters that are petty to a comedic level so that is probably part of my bias
This comment is gonna be written whenever i have comments about stuff because i aint ranking all the characters Jane yeah you get it shes basically a nothing burger and evil jane isnt interesting Lord english isn't really a character? His story is interesting and i like it but because of that hes just a non entity I love caliborn hes so evil and funny and every dialogue of his is great... But yknow not a character later I think the condesce is the villain that has lost the most because of her not being a character/meenah sure meeenah tells us character traits about the condesce... But not really? The condesce is a symbol of all the bad of alternia and the thing the trolls have to take down and also all the bad of earth kinda but... She isnt a character she just is bad and its never expounded and she doesnt do anything interesting and its homestucks most major flaw that the villains arent ever characters and the ones that are dont do anything villainous really (except scratch but like he gets replaced with a worse villain) Gamzee... Gamzee is so hard to talk about because hes interesting and his arc is to become lord englishes servant? And he knows that? Like if you really read into it him looking into cals eyes and talking to scratch means he has to know hes part of lord English who is his god and says that he is both his gods because his other god is doc scratch so he knows hes a villain and he goes crazy and snaps because of it.. and because hes English he can't die until the end of the comic so be becomes a silent joke thats not even funny anymore that ruins characters like terezi for a while. the shoosh pap didnt even really do anything gamzee kept being insane forever. I'd have had him sent on another meteor into skaia or smth to land in scratches apartment so he could get tossed around until caliborn shows up on earth C at the end of time Jake... Joke... Jape... I see you i see your potential unlike jane i see it the glimmer the spark of something good is inside Jake English and I can't really describe it but theres a semblance of a good character in jake he has flaws and hea trying to get over them and hes sucks and hes starting realize that and his relationship with dirk is kinda toxic (on both sides) but there something good in jake English that never comes out and the potential is squandered its why A6A5A1X2COMBO is my favorite act because there i really really feel it.. but he just becomes homestucks punching bag Jane.. well i cant talk about jane again without talking about epilogues jane really now. You'll see.. youll see... Vriska is the most complex character in homestuck... Shes evil then she has her arc where she starts being vulnerable and great and regretting her decisions and those decisions and choices are why she needs to be taken out and "die" but then everything falls apart without her and it sucks and the retcon (which i kinda like kinda dont) brings the worse of version of her back... Its not really the vriska who was vulnerable and actually learned her lesson (even though its after that for her) its basically the vriska who made Bec noir. The antagonistic evil vriska sure theres a bit of her development but she becomes homestucks most important character again shes the one leading the charge against its big bad i like late act5 act 2 vriska and early act 6 vriska much more as a character then she is at any other point like if that version of vriska somehow stayed alive the first time with that development I'd consider her beyond homestuck tier Now and now do you get my top 5 Jade, Roxy, Dave, terezi, vriska You already said everything i could say about most of them (i agree gamrezi sucks and makes her so bad) so i wanted to put my 2 cents in to characters ive probably commented on a lot characterw who i think deserve more credit like caliborn who is enjoyable to me, and characters i see potential thats squandered like jake, the condesce and English And vriska because she's vriska shes so complex you cant help but talk about her
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you should totally do a video watching some iconic homestuck fan creations! broadway karkat (karkalicious my beloved), the animations (lullaby for gods, mambostuck, after us, ichellor's amazing 3d animations, etc), you cant fight the homestuck and other fan parodies. theres a lot of great/funny/iconic stuff
I'd need a solid list, but I'd do that, for sure.
@@guiltyflygon this kind of sent me on a spiral of my favorite iconic homestuck videos and i have actually put together a list with links oops! dont feel pressured but these i think would be fun to watch you watch!
mambostuck: ruclips.net/video/putjAaQTUbU/видео.html
lullaby for gods: ruclips.net/video/QKfP9N28buk/видео.html
rex duodecim angelus: ruclips.net/video/-19Up0dLzNw/видео.html
you cant fight the homestuck: ruclips.net/video/jrhTB2Sij8c/видео.html
After us: ruclips.net/video/OE0_eNIJuE8/видео.html
Amsterdam: ruclips.net/video/vHSKbnkq2bU/видео.html
karkalicious: ruclips.net/video/IWcb2pdgZTc/видео.html
(and if youd like MORE boradway karkat after that masterpiece i recommend: caliginous waltz, [s]karkat: be a fanboy, GFDI Dave, a gristmas carol)
crescendo: ruclips.net/video/ys5_QEmUEb8/видео.html
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I second this. Literally just searching up “Homestuck Animation” you get tons of peak, like RDA, a bunch of Lyricstuck stuff like counting stars, warriors, the like. Also music- The Baby is You was great and has a nice animation for it, Phemiec’s songs, soundtrack remixes… the list can go on.
. Well... you already know The Baby Is You and there is nothing better than that, so what's even the point? ;-)
I feel like the reason why most people say characters like Davepeta and Jane, wasted or last second characters, are their favorites is that people sort of mix Headcanon, Canon, Fanon, since Homestuck ended about eight years ago, and the info can get a bit muddled in that time. Also, sometimes people rank the characters as What They Could Have Been, over what they are. Davepeta being this hybrid of forgotten characters, doing things unintended by the game to become game breaking, returning relevancy to Davesprite, the disregarded duplicate of 'The Real Dave', and Nepeta, one of the first trolls to die, and the least characterized, giving them both time to flesh out and characterize their individual pieces... instead of being Cat!Dave for about a dozen pages.
Also I agree with most of your rankings I heavily disagree with like, three. Mayor belongs in Homestick, Scratch belongs in Pretty Cool, and The Terezi ancestor should at least be Mid.
Also I'm gonna start doing a thing where I reply to individual points rather than just posting a thesis. Some of these are genuine, some of these are just me being silly.
11:35 Whaaaaat? How could yous forget aboubt dear sweet Fefeta???
17:28 I only like Evil Jade cause she's named Grimbark Jade by the fandom and I love her exclusively cause of the pun. Also I like her vibes
26:05 I like doc scratch exclusively because I have a love for condescending sassy villains. And I steal and modify his lines for my own ttrpg villains
32:00 RUUUUUFIIIIIOOOOOOOOOHHHHH
35:30 I figured the point was that, by vriska choosing the path she did, she ruined her own happy ending. By refusing to change, by chasing the glory of Defeating The Big Bad, she condemned herself to never have a good ending. Vriska, in the new universe, could have been like Fishska. But because of her own choices, she literally ruined it for *herself*.
39:17 YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH LETS GO BABY, IN THIS HOUSE WE LOVE CLUBS DEUCE
40:44 how... DARE you!!! YOU DARE DISRESPECT THE MAYOR OF CAN TOWN??? TEN YEARS IN CAN CONFINEMENT FOR YOU!
41:55 THAT IS THE ESTEEMED DR. MEOWGON SPANGLER!!! THE ILLUSTRIOUS VODKA MEWTINI!!! SUCH INSOLENCE!!!
42:25 Good dog, best friend.
44:10 All hail the esteemed Viceroy Casey 'Bubbles' Von Salamancer, first of their name.
44:30 I care about the felt... :(
45:20 HOW DARE- yeah I'm not doing the mock hysteria again.
54:10 I thought you were gonna say "Why do I think these characters were waisted? ...did you read the comic?"
54:45 In the ongoing series Homestuck Alternate Universe by FunkMcLovin, they're basically rewriting the story to improve on the original stuff. They gave Eridan this almost Vegeta esque "Proud Alternian Noble" thing, where he's really stressed about the survival of the troll race, and is ingrained in alternian values. And while that does show in the hemospectrum blood racism stuff, he also thinks fondly on their culture when he's on the meteor, and there's a scene where he has a kinda sweet moment with Kanaya where he basically says "I trust you, don't fuck this up" and reassures her about the matriorb. He;s still a dick to Sollux and the other lowbloods, but there's nuance to his character that's actually explored.
1:01:00 hOnK :o)
1:04:00 Oh yeah, I will not defend it, It's possibly the worst part of homestuck.
1:11:30 Why do you think Rose is my favorite Human and Kanaya is my favorite troll? You think it's because I relate to Jade's weird vibes and Kanaya's tendency to use big words? No, it's cause they're both my aspect!!!!! DUH
1:12:40 Roxxy My Belolvebd
1:14:30 Viska
I think the only issue with Vriska choosing a path that ultimately dooms her is that's not what actually happens lol. Vriska doesn't choose to go back to her old ways, John resets the timeline and Vriska is never given a chance to change lol. Not like it's his fault or anything, it's just also not Vriska's fault really, which ideally it should be.
Top 5 for me? Dirk, Karkat, Dave, Rose, Roxy. Maybe in that order? Homestuck on a whole did a really good job at making most of the characters feel like people even if some of them are just in the way. It’s wild how with as long as homestuck is, so many characters would’ve benefited from more screen time.
Davesprite and Salamancer in top tier, i am satisfied. Though heracy against mayor is just sad. I would personally place gamzee higher but the fact that people absolutely despise him is the appeal for me.
A lot of people like the Felt because of the paradox space comics; they get a little more personality in "The Inaugural Death of Mr Seven".
I liked them a LOT even before reading that so i was just absolutelly ECSTATIC to read TIDOMS
Oh no he predicted what happened to Jane’s character in the epilogues
Ok idk how I've stumbled on a Homestuck video after YEARS but I guess I gotta go through your readalong playlist now, because I kinda love to see discussions of these characters! I really like how much insight you provide about the story structure and character developements (because god knows I was not critically thinking about any of it while I was rwading) So I'm kinda curious how the story holds up! Despite all of the frustrated rambling it does seem like you at least got very invested haha
Having a Strider bias feels very relatable to me, at least from what I remember Dave and Dirk were very high up there for me. I am also kinda curious how much of my impression of all the characters was my own impressions vs what I just absorbed in the fandom?
Someone already mentioned fan animations but what stuck with me a lot were the fan songs, specifically by PhemieC. They created individual songs for all the beta trolls, the kids some sprites and then some, which I admittedly still sometimes listen to😅 I found a playlist if you ever wanna check them out in your own time because I do genuienly think there are some good songs in there not always just musically but also in regards to what themes PhemieC decided to pick up (specifically in the troll songs)
ruclips.net/p/PLEqd5lNyrSf8m2Cb6fAXsrui0KTs1spjt&si=EPJLVmbi74oX5Wta
but I was wondering while watching you rank the trolls how much my enjoyment of them hinges on my nostalgia and song preferences haha
Anyways, I'm looking forward to delve back into Homestuck with your videos and although I'm a bit late, at least I get to binge through it all! Hope you have a great day!
vriska, ending up in lackluster: noooo, it buuurrrrrnnsss!!! D: (you know she'd hate that)
my faves are Jade, john, roxy, rose, terezi, karkat,caliope, caliborn, jack noir/spades slick and doc scratch (yes, controversial) c:
top five? Rose, Terezi, Doc Scratch, Jade and Calliope.
I DO like Kanaya, she's just not a FAVE.
I also REALLY like davepeta for some reason but yeah still not a fave since they don't do much. I just think they're neat.
Least liked: Vriska.
I still checking out another webcomic in this way would be fun, like el goonish shive or out of placers or the wotch or awful hospital. The only issue is they're not finished far as I am aware :/
Oh my gosh RUclips decided to eat my comment i am mad.
The main things I think I mentioned were that:
Lord English primarily takes from Caliborn. Everyone else in him basically just contributes small stuff like his muscles and HONK.
Involving Jake and Jane's companies: Jane sure did name it Crocker Corp after she didn’t live up to her maid arc, huh. Hopefully that doesn’t imply something.
Jake hiring Dirk isn’t too big of a deal. It very likely is Jake being the face of the company while Dirk is the one actually running stuff. There is weird stuff about their relationship outside of Homestuck proper, but it's not related to the company at all.
The characters are Not the rulers of each kingdom. I think that it was just showing off that the kingdoms exist, not that they run them.
As for my top 5 ignoring the epilogues and stuff to the best of my abilities (and not in any particular order):
Dirk, Dave, Roxy, Caliborn, and either Karkat or Vriska depending on the mood. The Strilondes are self explanatory. I like Caliborn because he's the antagonist we get the most personality of and I really like that he's a super petty guy that is just the worst in a mostly comedic way. I really like characters that are petty to a comedic level so that is probably part of my bias
Dave, Roxy, Karkat, Terezi and Davesprite. If I could put more than 5 I might start putting more doomed Daves tbh, dude was the coolest
Vriska, Dave, Roxy, John, Karkat. You're probably gonna see a lot of the same 5 characters + or - Vriska.
yeah thats me. just change vriska for The rezi
@@pomapelo Terezi is probably 6 for me.
1:00:53 oh my god you *totally* should that would be great
Almost every problem you have with some characters are handled in Homestuck²
This comment is gonna be written whenever i have comments about stuff because i aint ranking all the characters
Jane yeah you get it shes basically a nothing burger and evil jane isnt interesting
Lord english isn't really a character? His story is interesting and i like it but because of that hes just a non entity
I love caliborn hes so evil and funny and every dialogue of his is great... But yknow not a character later
I think the condesce is the villain that has lost the most because of her not being a character/meenah sure meeenah tells us character traits about the condesce... But not really? The condesce is a symbol of all the bad of alternia and the thing the trolls have to take down and also all the bad of earth kinda but... She isnt a character she just is bad and its never expounded and she doesnt do anything interesting and its homestucks most major flaw that the villains arent ever characters and the ones that are dont do anything villainous really (except scratch but like he gets replaced with a worse villain)
Gamzee... Gamzee is so hard to talk about because hes interesting and his arc is to become lord englishes servant? And he knows that? Like if you really read into it him looking into cals eyes and talking to scratch means he has to know hes part of lord English who is his god and says that he is both his gods because his other god is doc scratch so he knows hes a villain and he goes crazy and snaps because of it.. and because hes English he can't die until the end of the comic so be becomes a silent joke thats not even funny anymore that ruins characters like terezi for a while. the shoosh pap didnt even really do anything gamzee kept being insane forever. I'd have had him sent on another meteor into skaia or smth to land in scratches apartment so he could get tossed around until caliborn shows up on earth C at the end of time
Jake... Joke... Jape... I see you i see your potential unlike jane i see it the glimmer the spark of something good is inside Jake English and I can't really describe it but theres a semblance of a good character in jake he has flaws and hea trying to get over them and hes sucks and hes starting realize that and his relationship with dirk is kinda toxic (on both sides) but there something good in jake English that never comes out and the potential is squandered its why A6A5A1X2COMBO is my favorite act because there i really really feel it.. but he just becomes homestucks punching bag
Jane.. well i cant talk about jane again without talking about epilogues jane really now. You'll see.. youll see...
Vriska is the most complex character in homestuck... Shes evil then she has her arc where she starts being vulnerable and great and regretting her decisions and those decisions and choices are why she needs to be taken out and "die" but then everything falls apart without her and it sucks and the retcon (which i kinda like kinda dont) brings the worse of version of her back... Its not really the vriska who was vulnerable and actually learned her lesson (even though its after that for her) its basically the vriska who made Bec noir. The antagonistic evil vriska sure theres a bit of her development but she becomes homestucks most important character again shes the one leading the charge against its big bad i like late act5 act 2 vriska and early act 6 vriska much more as a character then she is at any other point like if that version of vriska somehow stayed alive the first time with that development I'd consider her beyond homestuck tier
Now and now do you get my top 5
Jade, Roxy, Dave, terezi, vriska
You already said everything i could say about most of them (i agree gamrezi sucks and makes her so bad) so i wanted to put my 2 cents in to characters ive probably commented on a lot characterw who i think deserve more credit like caliborn who is enjoyable to me, and characters i see potential thats squandered like jake, the condesce and English
And vriska because she's vriska shes so complex you cant help but talk about her