Ryan is spot on with his story breakdown. The character in the Wayne building that should have died to make Bruce mad should have been Lucius Fox, that would have had a huge affect on the audience as well.
Have Fox there doing diligence on a deal with Lexcorp. Lex then has a means of learning Bruce was Batman, instead of apparently plucking both heroes' secret identities from the aether.
@@avikchakraborty5536agreed. Wtf are people thinking? You kill anyone well known from the comics then people will get mad. It's what happened with Jimmy.
A meme explains this entire movie: It's the Step Brothers movie meme. Your mom's name is Martha? My mom's name is Martha. Did we just become best friends? Yup.
Batman wasn't angry about just Jack, he's angry about everyone who died on that day. And yes please watch BvS again, with a reaction video 😊 please please
HashtagJabyPitchMeetings Sure, why not. I enjoyed it. A different type of reaction just by yourself, but you reacting to Ryan George's stuff is always a pleasure to watch. Always love the ramble!
I don't know if this is how the Martha scene was meant to be but the way I see it is that Batman keeps his parents memories alive and honours them by being Batman and not killing anyone but when supes said you are letting him kill Martha Batman suddenly remembers why he is Batman in the first place and stops himself from seeing what he(Superman) could do and sees what he has done which is help people so he doesn't let Martha's memory die by killing supes Just my opinion though 😅
His concern about superman is unrelated to that tho isn't it? It's not like he was slipping in his desperation about to kill a criminal but a big ol' super being
Ryan George didn’t do JUSTICE (ha!) to how bad the plot was. He didn’t even mention why Superman would get the blame for people with a bunch of holes in their skin AND bones and that were on fire instead of lasered to pieces. Or the fact that Lex gave the names and symbols to all the Justice League in the emails. This was/is a terrible movie.
So much of Lex’s plan indeed made no sense. Why does he want kryptonite weapons approved when he planned for Batman to steal it anyway? Why does he blow up the capital building? To exile superman and enrage Batman? It made no sense for that to set Batman off and he didn’t take meaningful advantage of Superman’s exile anyway. Sure enough he brings Superman back out of exile himself. Why did he think Doomsday was a good idea? Why did he assume he can control someone just because it used his blood? Just complete nonsense.
luthor's plot looked simple because it did not matter in the end. the convoluted shit he did as a plan does not matter at all in the grand scheme of things which is to make the two fight
Instead of getting intimidated by the mcu infinity saga they should have paced it as required, the flash what it could have been years ago would have been something else
For most of the movie, Batman sees Superman as just this otherworldly thing. The Martha scene is when he finally sees Superman's humanity, he's just a son trying to protect his mother. A point of view Batman can very much emphasize with due to the tragic lose of his own parents. We already see it because we see the movie from both of their perspectives. I think that scene would have worked better if they had limited the movie as much as possible to only Batman's perspective.
I mean, it's not like he didn't think the guy doesn't have parents considering his dialogue. Everyone understands what they wanted to do but it literally just comes across as him just forgetting every concern cause their moms have the same name
A Batman V Superman movie this early in the Franchise was a bad idea. Even in comics, this was an Elsewhere world story and not canon to the main continuity. And it could work in that story because they had been friends for a few decades already. So, it meant something. Batman randomly, even with some prep, just cannot handle Superman without Superman not wanting to hurt him. You have to downgrade Superman so much and Batman an upgrade, just for them to fight. And even then it wouldn't be the 'super' version of Clark but almost regular guy level, because of Kryptonite. This was Warner Bros' desperation to catch up to the MCU that made them make this movie so early on. They needed to make a Batman movie first, with a small Superman cameo if needed. Then do the Batman v Superman. And of course, Man of Steel sequel should have been made before or right after the first Justice League movie. Warner Bros' messed up the DCEU.
I know Barman v Superman has some fans, and I by no means want to cause any discord, but personally, I think it was not the best idea to have Batman debut in what feels like a Man of Steel 2 story, when if anything we should've gotten another Superman movie and a solo Batman film, than have the two join forces, not have them fight each for an ultimately redundant reason. It's confirmed that WB rushed to produce as many DC films to catch up with Marve at the time and it definitely shows in the execution of this film. Thankfully we are starting things from scratch and rebooting with James Gunn's DCU
That's the old take everyone had. Cuz that would honestly be the ideal path they should've taken. But they rushed it and then made justice league a wee bit after.
I’m not excited for James gun’s universe at all I just wanted the Batfleck solo film cause Ben Affleck is still the perfect casting for batman and most of the actors like Ben Affleck and Henry cavil to be fired like this is a shame to me there’s nothing exciting about the James Gunn universe and the idea of starting from scratch after already having a universe with great actors that could’ve been expanded upon
@@Mohamad-m7md ngl i’m more excited for Gunn’s take on the characters but that’s bc i didn’t love the batman and superman in the dceu😭 also idk hot that affleck movie would have been but he dropped out of it so be upset at him and henry was a dumbass for coming back with no contract trusting the old regime like be fr
@@Wolfhunter5607 James’s gun universe seems like the safest shit ever all his movies would feel like marvel movies and that shit got old so I’m not excited I only like unique comic book movies that bring something new to the table like watchmen ( 2009 ) spider-verse Joker ( 2019 ) The batman ( 2022 ) Not movies like blue beetle these are so bland and blue beetle is part of James Gunn’s universe so I can imagine they’re just gonna be like that
Do you know what the absolute DUMBEST part of the framing Superman for killing an entire African village is? They had to burn the bodies in order to make it look like he used his heat vision on them. But they had to use an accelerant like gasoline to burn them. Superman doesn't need gasoline to burn bodies and it is EASILY detectable
Yeah, Lex's plan in general is just widely improbable and doesn't make a lot of sense in retrospect, much like a lot of other things in the movie in general. Im honestly glad we are getting a new Lex Luthor in the DCU alongside a new Superman, especially when Jesse Eisenberg, while still being a great actor, was tremendously miscast as Lex Luthor, and Im glad were starting from fresh
There would also be bullet wounds in the bodies, another thing Superman doesn't need. If Superman wants to wipe out a village and hide it, he could throw everyone into space or underneath the ocean.
@@milkiassamuel780 His casting isn't really as bad as you might think Think if Mark Zuckerberg became a super villain Remember, Lex Luthor is an ordinary human with unlimited wealth, much like Batman. Most depictions of him make him out to be a body builder, especially the animated versions, but he could just have easily have a paunchy dad bod or worse. I think that if they did choose a physically fit actor as Luthor, it might seem dumb, remember, in the Arrowverse, they cast Jon Cryer from Two and a Half Men as Luthor
@@dragonweyr44 How is choosing a fit actor for Luthor dumb? Luthor constantly gets himself in danger and fights Superman of all people wearing his armor, he'd NEED to be fit. Also the fact that he's the most intelligent person on earth and just knows the basic advantages of being fit. I mean look at Jeff Bezos, he's put effort to get himself in shape even at this age. Lastly, Luthor is a fictional character. All these efforts to portray these characters in a more realistic light is what ruined DCEU in the first place.
Yo the plot REALLY is super complicated,complex, and slightly convoluted...If you watch Honest Trailer they have a scroll that's pretty funny to read but it's basically all the steps of Lex's plan...Pee in a tea Jar is one Ryan George left out LMFAO...I he Lex is smart but wouldn't he have to be borderline omnipotent to know that each step would work out without something random interfering? IDK maybe he had a bunch of fail-safes in place we never saw
Lex Luthor plans are always complicated, even in animated Justice League Unlimited he and Brainiac merged.....literally. So Lex to do something crazy like in BvS is normal for him. But the extended cut is the real movie. People spitting at Zack Snyder, but the actual evil is WB.... but people are just on the bandwagon i guess
The ridiculousness of Lex's plan in this movie is almost on the same level as Marmalade's plan from The Bad Guys; a literal over-the-top cartoon that parodies heist movies.
You are missing a lot. BvS has an extended cut that actually makes the movie a lot better. WB wanted Zack Snyder to cut so they can release that BvS that you know.
Didn't see the movie at the cinemas, thank god but I did watch a little bit at my relatives house and it was one of the most boring 30 minutes of my life, so I don't most DC movies, boring and don't make a lot of sense.
But he's right First of all while Batman concerns are fair, the motivations for the fight are dumb and lex's plan to ramped up Batman rage is even dumber and not to mention that Doomsday looks like Michael Angelo's cousin on Steroids
Batman's concerns aren't fair. He says that he has to kill Superman because there may be a 1% chance that he turns against humanity, without even having spoken to him. That's the most ridiculous thought process ever depicted in filmmaking history.
@BaithNa Superman already caused mass destruction in his fight versus Zod. So that 1% chance is already. Then with the burning bodies and explosion of the capitol? Come on... the amount of burnt bodies we've seen on screen associated with Superman, it's reasonable to question his morality, which is what everyone in the world is doing!
@@Thehardtruth69 And that's STUPID! Batman's not supposed to be stupid!! The burnt african bodies would obviously have bullet holes. Why would they be there had Superman killed them? Also, the mercenaries used gasoline to burn their bodies, which is easily detectable. Everybody knows Superman doesn't need gasoline to burn someone. So tell me why wouldn't they investigate all that before blaming it on the guy that saved their plant a few years ago? Maybe someone will say the government was manilulated by Luthor in some way (that was not shown in the movie but whatever) still, Batman is the world's greatest detective. He would absolutely not hold Superman accountable without proper investigation no matter how much anger he was holding.
While the Ultimate Edition was watchable, it was clearly not a great movie. There's just way too many dumb decisions that went into this movie, including the horrible color palette that is the signature style of Snyder, the edgelord.
Sorry Jaby, but the Martha thing ISN'T dumb. It's misunderstood. For me, it was showing that as much as Bruce hated Superman and wanted him gone, once he realized he had a mother - like us - he realized that maybe this guy was more 'human' than he thought.....then Superman immediately turns around and sacrifices himself in the fight with Doomsday and THAT was the catalyst for Bruce Wayne/Batman to form the Justice League and become a better version of himself. Big Snyder fan here, sorry.....It took me some time to evolve on my thoughts and feelings but I have come to the conclusion that us fans were robbed of Snyders true vision for his 3 to 5 film arc due to studio interference.
Dc will always be uncompetitive with Marvel I think there are more marvel fans in the world to be honest and that won’t change no matter how many bad projects they drop 🤷🏾♂️ at least that goes for me
Uncompetitive? Based on what? DC is still very much in competition with Marvel and has been the more popular one for a long time before the MCU dropped. And just like the MCU put Marvel at a great advantage over DC, some day again DC will come out on top. That's just how it goes, they take turns being the more popular and succesful ones.
@@jayetoler1923 Just one question, why be blindly loyal to bad or mid quality if the other party is making better stuff? Note that I'm not saying DC puts out better stuff right now, but you said Marvel would always be on top for you no matter how many bad projects they released. Why's that?
@@HarryK-ld2ed everyone has different views, opinions, sights. Saying something is mid or bad just cuz most agree with you doesn’t make it true. We are ALL different in this world. I could play a movie I think is GREAT, box office, or even by popular opinion and there will still be people that pick at it just because. Dc fans and marvels will always compare and clash that’s natural and there won’t ever be a definitive who’s better honestly. Are they wrong for thinking that? No because it’s a personal opinion. Saying I’m blind to it is a little too off tho lol. I’m 32 and seeing all that’s came out comics, movies, etc over the years I have never once seen DC on top. Only time I remember hypeness was when Man Of Steel came out. DC messed up tryna catch up and compete with Marvel (why justice league failed) and that’s actually known to be a fact decision they made. Hey my mind might change 🤷🏾♂️ The connection with all the stories that the Mcu told and to bring all that together is a ultimate fatality when it comes to DC and the only reason I became a Mcu fan because it was like one big ass story. DC was just puttin stuff out tryna copy (just like EVERY movie coming out now with the time travel multiverse stuff) and started to interconnect too late. I think there is no catching up based off the history.
@@jayetoler1923 1) You yourself said "no matter how many bad projects marvel releases", as in bad for your taste too. And when that's happening and DC is putting out better stuff, why will Marvel still be better for you, that's what I'm asking. 2) Yes everyone is entitled to their opinions. But DC was on top for a long time especially through the 70s till late 2000s before MCU really took off (and that happened with The Avengers, not Iron man). Saying that it was never on top is like factually wrong. 3) But yeah DC dropped the ball massively by rushing the storyline without first establishing a strong foundation. Everyone can agree on that. Even Man of Steel wasn't a good representation of the most iconic fictional character of all time. 4) DC has still had better comics, animated shows and movies, video games (though Marvel is catching up in this medium with Insomniac's Spider-man).
The emails are a creative way to introduce cameos to the audience and characters while still fitting the narrative unlike usual cameos where they just pop up on the screen out of the blue, like WW in the Flash film
2:52 it makes even less sense when you consider they introduced and killed off Jimmy Olsen (the CIA operative mentioned just after this) in the same damn movie, in less than like 2 minutes, and most people didn't really even realize that was him. This was a Batman who's been around a long time, Lucius Fox could have easily been the guy he lost.
I find it absolutely hilarious that this jumbled mess of a movie that reeks of studio meddling and was too complicated for its own good has ONE MOMENT that was truly profound, emotional, and loyal to comic Bruce Wayne, and THAT'S the moment everyone is like, "you can't recover from that, it's just dumb and silly." 🤷♂️
Speaking of deep cuts that only loyal fans would get, did you guys know that Jaby once interviewed Ryan George
“I promise I won’t plug it again, but-“
Lies. That was actually Ryan George in Jaby cosplay. **refer to Jaby's shirt in this video**
Ryan is spot on with his story breakdown. The character in the Wayne building that should have died to make Bruce mad should have been Lucius Fox, that would have had a huge affect on the audience as well.
Idk about that
Have Fox there doing diligence on a deal with Lexcorp. Lex then has a means of learning Bruce was Batman, instead of apparently plucking both heroes' secret identities from the aether.
Robin would have also made sense.
The fact that it was a random nobody adds to the list of reasons why thia movie didn't work.
That's stupid
Fox is an integral part of the batman mythos, killing him off right at the start would have just pissed off many more fans
@@avikchakraborty5536agreed. Wtf are people thinking? You kill anyone well known from the comics then people will get mad. It's what happened with Jimmy.
If I remember correctly, the plot is as he explained, although we don't find out about it straight forward
Ryan doesn’t do anything for comedic purposes, he is the manifestation of comedic purposes! 😂
Ooooh! Funny purposes are TIGHT!
Ryan George's pitch meetings are freaking hilarious and I like watching your reactions to them 😀😂🤣
I agree, he should still make the googly eyes jokes in the next milestone pitch. They mentioned it in the honest trailers for pitch meetings I think.
BvS was so messy,Ryan's Pitch Meetings are spot on as always :)
Yeah I stick around to watch the end of all of his pitch meetings, love them, the guy is hilarious.
A meme explains this entire movie:
It's the Step Brothers movie meme.
Your mom's name is Martha?
My mom's name is Martha.
Did we just become best friends?
Yup.
He can have all of his cats in the videos with him, I love seeing them.😁😎😺😻😽❤️❤️
Batman wasn't angry about just Jack, he's angry about everyone who died on that day.
And yes please watch BvS again, with a reaction video 😊 please please
HashtagJabyPitchMeetings Sure, why not. I enjoyed it. A different type of reaction just by yourself, but you reacting to Ryan George's stuff is always a pleasure to watch. Always love the ramble!
I don't know if this is how the Martha scene was meant to be but the way I see it is that Batman keeps his parents memories alive and honours them by being Batman and not killing anyone but when supes said you are letting him kill Martha Batman suddenly remembers why he is Batman in the first place and stops himself from seeing what he(Superman) could do and sees what he has done which is help people so he doesn't let Martha's memory die by killing supes
Just my opinion though 😅
His concern about superman is unrelated to that tho isn't it? It's not like he was slipping in his desperation about to kill a criminal but a big ol' super being
15:30 - I completely agree! I hope Ryan is watching.
Ryan George didn’t do JUSTICE (ha!) to how bad the plot was. He didn’t even mention why Superman would get the blame for people with a bunch of holes in their skin AND bones and that were on fire instead of lasered to pieces. Or the fact that Lex gave the names and symbols to all the Justice League in the emails. This was/is a terrible movie.
So much of Lex’s plan indeed made no sense. Why does he want kryptonite weapons approved when he planned for Batman to steal it anyway? Why does he blow up the capital building? To exile superman and enrage Batman? It made no sense for that to set Batman off and he didn’t take meaningful advantage of Superman’s exile anyway. Sure enough he brings Superman back out of exile himself. Why did he think Doomsday was a good idea? Why did he assume he can control someone just because it used his blood? Just complete nonsense.
Yes please re-watch it with reaction 😆
u should also check out the man of steel pitch meeting
Really glad to see you came back to the Ryan side 😁🧡
15:26 hi 7u7
You are not alone 😂❤
I always think about the Batman vs Supeman billboard in I Am Legend
Lol it's funny that Jaby kept confusing BVS with Justice League.. Im sitting there like "BVS had a Snyder cut?" Lol
luthor's plot looked simple because it did not matter in the end. the convoluted shit he did as a plan does not matter at all in the grand scheme of things which is to make the two fight
15:28 Yes, you're alone. Oh" wait!
you are not alone. I AM BATMAN, I meant, I am watching
15:27 no jaby im here 🫶🏻
Instead of getting intimidated by the mcu infinity saga they should have paced it as required, the flash what it could have been years ago would have been something else
I couldn't stop laughing
You should react to his “Cats” revisited Pitch Meeting.
Yes you are alone Jaby. We are not watching to the end. 😉
Use the googley eyes joke in the 200th pitch meeting? My guy you reacted to the 300th pitch meeting on this channel a year ago.
I think the word for which you were looking was Convoluted.
For most of the movie, Batman sees Superman as just this otherworldly thing. The Martha scene is when he finally sees Superman's humanity, he's just a son trying to protect his mother. A point of view Batman can very much emphasize with due to the tragic lose of his own parents. We already see it because we see the movie from both of their perspectives. I think that scene would have worked better if they had limited the movie as much as possible to only Batman's perspective.
I mean, it's not like he didn't think the guy doesn't have parents considering his dialogue. Everyone understands what they wanted to do but it literally just comes across as him just forgetting every concern cause their moms have the same name
Love the black cat 🐈⬛
No, batman/bruce was mad at all the chaos and death that the fight of zod and superman caused in Gotham city. He doesn't want to see his people die.
Convoluted would be the antonym to cohesive, here.
I did'nt catch that at all mate!!
You are not alone😅
A Batman V Superman movie this early in the Franchise was a bad idea. Even in comics, this was an Elsewhere world story and not canon to the main continuity.
And it could work in that story because they had been friends for a few decades already. So, it meant something. Batman randomly, even with some prep, just cannot handle Superman without Superman not wanting to hurt him. You have to downgrade Superman so much and Batman an upgrade, just for them to fight. And even then it wouldn't be the 'super' version of Clark but almost regular guy level, because of Kryptonite.
This was Warner Bros' desperation to catch up to the MCU that made them make this movie so early on. They needed to make a Batman movie first, with a small Superman cameo if needed. Then do the Batman v Superman.
And of course, Man of Steel sequel should have been made before or right after the first Justice League movie. Warner Bros' messed up the DCEU.
No, you are not alone there
" But but...sir....its a masterpiece....we know its not as good..... but its a masterpiece " .... bro stop
That was for dramatic effects 😊😅
I like Pitch Meetin, but sometimes, like American Idol it’s just to pitchy. (I do not apologize for my jokes)
I remember thinking the plot was so improbable for these characters. It was so bad.
It was absolutely that absurd lol
Is Steph still part of the CinePals team?
Ovarian Window needs to be the title to Jaby's autobiography
Lex Luthor’s plan is as convoluted as Baron Zemo’s plan in “Captain America : Civil War”.
Yet somehow the difference in execution is so different
I know Barman v Superman has some fans, and I by no means want to cause any discord, but personally, I think it was not the best idea to have Batman debut in what feels like a Man of Steel 2 story, when if anything we should've gotten another Superman movie and a solo Batman film, than have the two join forces, not have them fight each for an ultimately redundant reason. It's confirmed that WB rushed to produce as many DC films to catch up with Marve at the time and it definitely shows in the execution of this film. Thankfully we are starting things from scratch and rebooting with James Gunn's DCU
That's the old take everyone had. Cuz that would honestly be the ideal path they should've taken. But they rushed it and then made justice league a wee bit after.
Pretty much everyone involved with the movie has also come out and expressed that same opinion.
I’m not excited for James gun’s universe at all I just wanted the Batfleck solo film cause Ben Affleck is still the perfect casting for batman and most of the actors like Ben Affleck and Henry cavil to be fired like this is a shame to me there’s nothing exciting about the James Gunn universe and the idea of starting from scratch after already having a universe with great actors that could’ve been expanded upon
@@Mohamad-m7md ngl i’m more excited for Gunn’s take on the characters but that’s bc i didn’t love the batman and superman in the dceu😭 also idk hot that affleck movie would have been but he dropped out of it so be upset at him and henry was a dumbass for coming back with no contract trusting the old regime like be fr
@@Wolfhunter5607
James’s gun universe seems like the safest shit ever all his movies would feel like marvel movies and that shit got old so I’m not excited I only like unique comic book movies that bring something new to the table like
watchmen ( 2009 )
spider-verse
Joker ( 2019 )
The batman ( 2022 )
Not movies like blue beetle these are so bland and blue beetle is part of James Gunn’s universe so I can imagine they’re just gonna be like that
cinema pal
Do you know what the absolute DUMBEST part of the framing Superman for killing an entire African village is? They had to burn the bodies in order to make it look like he used his heat vision on them. But they had to use an accelerant like gasoline to burn them.
Superman doesn't need gasoline to burn bodies and it is EASILY detectable
Yeah, Lex's plan in general is just widely improbable and doesn't make a lot of sense in retrospect, much like a lot of other things in the movie in general. Im honestly glad we are getting a new Lex Luthor in the DCU alongside a new Superman, especially when Jesse Eisenberg, while still being a great actor, was tremendously miscast as Lex Luthor, and Im glad were starting from fresh
There would also be bullet wounds in the bodies, another thing Superman doesn't need.
If Superman wants to wipe out a village and hide it, he could throw everyone into space or underneath the ocean.
@@BaithNa Volcanos come to mind as well
@@milkiassamuel780 His casting isn't really as bad as you might think
Think if Mark Zuckerberg became a super villain
Remember, Lex Luthor is an ordinary human with unlimited wealth, much like Batman. Most depictions of him make him out to be a body builder, especially the animated versions, but he could just have easily have a paunchy dad bod or worse.
I think that if they did choose a physically fit actor as Luthor, it might seem dumb, remember, in the Arrowverse, they cast Jon Cryer from Two and a Half Men as Luthor
@@dragonweyr44 How is choosing a fit actor for Luthor dumb? Luthor constantly gets himself in danger and fights Superman of all people wearing his armor, he'd NEED to be fit. Also the fact that he's the most intelligent person on earth and just knows the basic advantages of being fit. I mean look at Jeff Bezos, he's put effort to get himself in shape even at this age.
Lastly, Luthor is a fictional character. All these efforts to portray these characters in a more realistic light is what ruined DCEU in the first place.
15:25 Oy there
Inspired
Yo the plot REALLY is super complicated,complex, and slightly convoluted...If you watch Honest Trailer they have a scroll that's pretty funny to read but it's basically all the steps of Lex's plan...Pee in a tea Jar is one Ryan George left out LMFAO...I he Lex is smart but wouldn't he have to be borderline omnipotent to know that each step would work out without something random interfering? IDK maybe he had a bunch of fail-safes in place we never saw
I hope he does that joke AND look at the camera. 😂
i never understood why batman was so mad at superman in the movie really
Slow mo is THE crux of Synder story telling. 300, SUCKER punch, Watchmen, etc.
Also yea, Lex Luthor's plan was super complicated.
Lex Luthor plans are always complicated, even in animated Justice League Unlimited he and Brainiac merged.....literally. So Lex to do something crazy like in BvS is normal for him.
But the extended cut is the real movie.
People spitting at Zack Snyder, but the actual evil is WB....
but people are just on the bandwagon i guess
The ridiculousness of Lex's plan in this movie is almost on the same level as Marmalade's plan from The Bad Guys; a literal over-the-top cartoon that parodies heist movies.
Honest Trailers did "The Plan" part better by having it as a list scrolling on screen, with Epic Voice Guy only skimming over it.
Yeah that's what I was saying..Ryan George forgot that Lex had to pee in a jar and label it
Ahsoka pitch meeting next pwease
Im confused.. Wasn't the extended version you talking about Justice League?. Bats v Sups had just one version? Or am I missing something here
You are missing a lot. BvS has an extended cut that actually makes the movie a lot better. WB wanted Zack Snyder to cut so they can release that BvS that you know.
Where’d steph go?
She was kidnapped by bats.
Hopefully some brave knight will go into their cave and, like, save her from those bats, man!
Stayed for the whole thing bud. #freeAchara lol
15:27 no you're not 👹
No Achara? 😢
Bring back the old intro song!
So I’m wondering if he does a pitch meeting does that ultimately mean it was a movie he didn’t like? 🧐
Nope. He makes pitch meetings for the movies that are more popular and those that the audience are more likely to watch.
No. He’s explained before he still likes many of the movies he makes pitches of
@@HarryK-ld2ed thanks!!!
@@HarryK-ld2ed oooh ok I’ve always wondered thanks!!
HISHE please
15:25 no jaby I’m here 🍃🍃
i really liked the extended snyder cut! THAT was a good movie... this version was trash 😄
Snyder fans are insane if they think this is quality
#jabykoaypitchmeeting
#jabykoay pitch meeting
🙂
Didn't see the movie at the cinemas, thank god but I did watch a little bit at my relatives house and it was one of the most boring 30 minutes of my life, so I don't most DC movies, boring and don't make a lot of sense.
No, it was really that dumb. The story was bad, even if you don't remember it being bad.
But he's right
First of all while Batman concerns are fair, the motivations for the fight are dumb and lex's plan to ramped up Batman rage is even dumber and not to mention that Doomsday looks like Michael Angelo's cousin on Steroids
Batman's concerns aren't fair.
He says that he has to kill Superman because there may be a 1% chance that he turns against humanity, without even having spoken to him.
That's the most ridiculous thought process ever depicted in filmmaking history.
@@BaithNa well then that's even worse
@BaithNa Superman already caused mass destruction in his fight versus Zod. So that 1% chance is already. Then with the burning bodies and explosion of the capitol? Come on... the amount of burnt bodies we've seen on screen associated with Superman, it's reasonable to question his morality, which is what everyone in the world is doing!
@@Thehardtruth69 And that's STUPID! Batman's not supposed to be stupid!! The burnt african bodies would obviously have bullet holes. Why would they be there had Superman killed them? Also, the mercenaries used gasoline to burn their bodies, which is easily detectable. Everybody knows Superman doesn't need gasoline to burn someone. So tell me why wouldn't they investigate all that before blaming it on the guy that saved their plant a few years ago? Maybe someone will say the government was manilulated by Luthor in some way (that was not shown in the movie but whatever) still, Batman is the world's greatest detective. He would absolutely not hold Superman accountable without proper investigation no matter how much anger he was holding.
Cocaine Bear pitch meeting
#jabykoyepitchmeeting
Ahsoka Pitch Meeting next
Cocaine Bear well overdue
@@8tonystark8BEAR-ly an inconvenience! 😂
While the Ultimate Edition was watchable, it was clearly not a great movie. There's just way too many dumb decisions that went into this movie, including the horrible color palette that is the signature style of Snyder, the edgelord.
This movie was a trainwreck
Sorry Jaby, but the Martha thing ISN'T dumb. It's misunderstood. For me, it was showing that as much as Bruce hated Superman and wanted him gone, once he realized he had a mother - like us - he realized that maybe this guy was more 'human' than he thought.....then Superman immediately turns around and sacrifices himself in the fight with Doomsday and THAT was the catalyst for Bruce Wayne/Batman to form the Justice League and become a better version of himself. Big Snyder fan here, sorry.....It took me some time to evolve on my thoughts and feelings but I have come to the conclusion that us fans were robbed of Snyders true vision for his 3 to 5 film arc due to studio interference.
Dc will always be uncompetitive with Marvel I think there are more marvel fans in the world to be honest and that won’t change no matter how many bad projects they drop 🤷🏾♂️ at least that goes for me
Uncompetitive? Based on what? DC is still very much in competition with Marvel and has been the more popular one for a long time before the MCU dropped. And just like the MCU put Marvel at a great advantage over DC, some day again DC will come out on top. That's just how it goes, they take turns being the more popular and succesful ones.
@@HarryK-ld2ed uncompetitive to ME good argument tho. Called an opinion never said fact breath brother breath 😂
@@jayetoler1923 Just one question, why be blindly loyal to bad or mid quality if the other party is making better stuff? Note that I'm not saying DC puts out better stuff right now, but you said Marvel would always be on top for you no matter how many bad projects they released. Why's that?
@@HarryK-ld2ed everyone has different views, opinions, sights. Saying something is mid or bad just cuz most agree with you doesn’t make it true. We are ALL different in this world. I could play a movie I think is GREAT, box office, or even by popular opinion and there will still be people that pick at it just because. Dc fans and marvels will always compare and clash that’s natural and there won’t ever be a definitive who’s better honestly. Are they wrong for thinking that? No because it’s a personal opinion. Saying I’m blind to it is a little too off tho lol. I’m 32 and seeing all that’s came out comics, movies, etc over the years I have never once seen DC on top. Only time I remember hypeness was when Man Of Steel came out. DC messed up tryna catch up and compete with Marvel (why justice league failed) and that’s actually known to be a fact decision they made. Hey my mind might change 🤷🏾♂️ The connection with all the stories that the Mcu told and to bring all that together is a ultimate fatality when it comes to DC and the only reason I became a Mcu fan because it was like one big ass story. DC was just puttin stuff out tryna copy (just like EVERY movie coming out now with the time travel multiverse stuff) and started to interconnect too late. I think there is no catching up based off the history.
@@jayetoler1923
1) You yourself said "no matter how many bad projects marvel releases", as in bad for your taste too. And when that's happening and DC is putting out better stuff, why will Marvel still be better for you, that's what I'm asking.
2) Yes everyone is entitled to their opinions. But DC was on top for a long time especially through the 70s till late 2000s before MCU really took off (and that happened with The Avengers, not Iron man). Saying that it was never on top is like factually wrong.
3) But yeah DC dropped the ball massively by rushing the storyline without first establishing a strong foundation. Everyone can agree on that. Even Man of Steel wasn't a good representation of the most iconic fictional character of all time.
4) DC has still had better comics, animated shows and movies, video games (though Marvel is catching up in this medium with Insomniac's Spider-man).
The emails are a creative way to introduce cameos to the audience and characters while still fitting the narrative unlike usual cameos where they just pop up on the screen out of the blue, like WW in the Flash film
2:52 it makes even less sense when you consider they introduced and killed off Jimmy Olsen (the CIA operative mentioned just after this) in the same damn movie, in less than like 2 minutes, and most people didn't really even realize that was him. This was a Batman who's been around a long time, Lucius Fox could have easily been the guy he lost.
All in all, the movie was absolutely terrible.
i still love this more then all of phase 4 and 5
You're from the future?
#jkpm
This movie was trash
I find it absolutely hilarious that this jumbled mess of a movie that reeks of studio meddling and was too complicated for its own good has ONE MOMENT that was truly profound, emotional, and loyal to comic Bruce Wayne, and THAT'S the moment everyone is like, "you can't recover from that, it's just dumb and silly." 🤷♂️
Yeah the story was that absurd
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