How Coraline's Rats Hint at Something Bigger
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What if a I told you a great and potentially dangerous force in Coraline was both overlooked and underfoot? Well, you KNOW I'm going to tell you just that! After more digging into the Coraline book, I've spent (probably) way too long staring at and decoding the whispery Rats' Chants. Why? Well... I think they are the key to something greater in the Other World. This is a Coraline theory that relies heavily on the book, and upon a previous theory on this channel (the one about the Other Mother and the Most Ancient Corridor Beast). I cannot get the high squeaky whispery rat voices out of my head... and now... maybe you'll be under their spell, too?
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Yesterday at my campus Halloween party there was a wybie. I was so happy to se a sort of obscure character getting some love
This makes me happy too!
More love to our resident village stalker! 💖
That's awesome!
There was someone that looked like him at my old job. Well, had the same hairstyle.
@@johnmichael4806 *happy gasp*
WOW 😍
I so want a Coraline audiobook read by you, that would be sooooo good
I knowwwww
Ture I will love that
Me too!
@@renee_is_pink we need this too happen
*FoR rEaL*
bish sleep ain't important when abitfrank uploads
@Chase Burton that is so cool
haha its 1:00 (*pm*) where I live
@@Wormilu 09:03
abitfrank is the best youtuber
@@belindaburnett1408 yeah, and I like her artstyle
The "we were here before you fell" could be refering to the well, as there is a theory that the well was the original portal and the Beldam fell down it
Yeeesss I watched theory videos (don't remember channel) where they explained the other mother was just a normal person the found her way to the other world so that tying in with the falling line is plausible
@@belle6624 that might be the theoriser he's amazing!! Definitely recommend his vidioes
@@mollygarrigan6763 it is
Didn't the rats work for the Beldam in the book though? What if they try and plan to overthrow the Cat/Vermin because he's the one controlling both worlds. Afterall he can zap in and out and predatory wise he is higher
I saw a theory that the Beldam didn't fell, but was drowned in it for being a witch.
The fact that they keep stressing their body parts “we have tails we have teeth” and “we have nerves” it’s almost like they’re telling the other mother “we are real living beings even if you don’t treat us like we are.” Like the other mother always uses them as pawns and they’re saying “we can see we can feel, we are /alive/ and we won’t tolerate being treated this way anymore.”
ooo :O
Wow😳
i absolutely love the expansion of this. the rats are a huge central character and scary but beautiful representation of what its like to overcome trauma. i personally love this movie because my mom was abusive, so seeing a character i love so much, and the other world that i view as the world my mom wanted me to live in and hid from everyone else (the abusive household no one knew or talked about). i see the rats as a good thing. they come off as evil and maniacal, disgusting and disloyal, and i see to it that imagery is from the point of view of the other mother. any attempt to break free of the abuse is a bad thing to her, and a terrifying concept as a child. you want to please your parents in every way you can, even if it means letting yourself be abused, so it makes sense that to coraline, the rats seem scary, but she isnt toally avoidant of them either.
The rat revolution
I think at some point
In the video she was sayin the same, and I think yor right
Rats: start chanting
Coraline: Imma head out
Meko Walton 🤣🤣🤣
LMAOO
Rats, we're rats, we're the rats
We prey at night, we stalk at night
We're the rats
The animation on these videos makes me shiver and I don’t know why
Same
The eyes.
@@platonica3622 I think it's just the way things move, especially fingers.
True Sadness your profile picture is giving me anxiety
As a massive fan of grunge music videos, it's candy to the eyes for me.
'Awesome video. I once heard someone refer to the rats as 'demons', and then I began to wonder. If the chants are addressed to the (human) denizens of our world, what if the line 'before you fell' refers to the Biblical Fall of humanity, with the rats being demons who were the first to 'fall' and now intend to 'rise' from 'underneath'? If by underneath they mean the Other World, what if it is a kind of Hell? After all, the Devil cannot create but can only imitate and parody what already exists, just like the Other Mother... Gaiman is no stranger to theological connections (see Good Omens or The Sandman).
wow. that is a really good theory *mind blown*
I have actually seen a demon that looked like the rats, so that's truly creepy. 😣
Just what I was thinking!
The "we are many" part is very recognizable to me and it made me think of legion from the Bible. Very very creepy. Here's what I got from the internet.
The Christian New Testament gospels of Matthew (8:28-34), Mark and Luke describe an incident in which Jesus meets a man, or in Matthew two men, possessed by demons who, in the Mark and Luke versions, when asked what their name is, respond: "My name is Legion, for we are many."
@@Elizabethleaf That's a brilliant point!
I would legit pay for a veriosn of Coraline narrated by you!! Your voice is so calming yet suspenseful
Same
True af edit pls like I had to like my self sadly.. but I get it you don’t have to..
I'd pay for a faithful remake of the book, stop motion and all
I REALLY wanna see the rats "feed" in the attic.
Do you? Do you really?
Francis Nardi Yes.
Francis Nardi yeah
@ɮօʊռċɛ օʄʄ I hope you're in a better place now.
no you don't...
One of Lovecraft's most famous tales is the Rats in the Walls... the rats from Coraline sound pretty similar, maybe they're part of the being that lives in the corridor as well? Since the corridor can't move that much and seems ancient and slow, almost dormant, they might be the beings who do the work for him or something like that! Like little minions of an eldritch god
Woah
Abitfrank sang in the intro
Me : my life is complete
Why do you have to put the “Me:”? we know it’s you talking
@@MoltenMonsters
People use it represent a reaction, as in it's a common thing for people to show emotions or reactions
DuolingoOwl IsComing they could still do that without saying that, if they deleted it nothing about the comment would change...
Molten Fredbear you have no right to criticize if you can’t spell correctly.
@@MoltenMonsters
Well it's just a common thing people do, please don't criticise others if you don't know what you're talking about or if you're just spewing hate
Me: *about to fall asleep*
Abitfrank: *uploads*
Me: frICK SLEEP I GOTTA CORALINE VIDEO TO WATCH
Listen to her talk will help you sleep
Stolen.
rats, we're rats, we're the rats...
_we prey at night we stalk at night, we're the rats!_
i'm the Giant Rat that makes ALL OF DA RULEZ!
The hidden DLC chant
*THE RATS ARE UNIONIZING*
I love how you animate the rats
same
Don't we all
I finished my homework at 3 am. So it is now 3 am. Sleep doesn't matter now. THIS IS PRIORITY!!!
imbelxox Stolen.
Bloody Murder why do you care...?
I never realised someone replied on this comment until someone else did 😂
Bloody Murder,
1. Assuming is RUDE plus theres billions of people in the world so why not some people have the same thought?
2. My mind wasn't clear since it was 3 AM and I was early at that time so all that matters was commenting early so I wouldn't check others comments.
Hope you see ppl in a new light and is that alastor on your pfp
Wish I could buy merch but I’m broke ;(
Same here.
It's okay, just don't skip the ads and she'll get paid all the same.
I hope.
The only merch I have is from pyro, my brother got it but he grew out of it so I took it. ( I'm really small, so is my brother, so it's still a few sizes too big and it's comfy
Have you heard of saving money
el junge polygot yes, yes I have
*The rats saying they’ll rise from underneath their cruel employer*
Me: HELL YEAH UNIONIZE
RAT COMMUNISM
I mean literally though. After this video I’m on their side.
VIVA LA RAT
HELPP
Honestly, I have never read Coraline and yet, I have been here for EVERY Coraline video you’ve made. You’re so thoughtful in your analysis and so well-spoken. I love when you upload :) thanks for your hard work!
Hi Whitney! Ah THANK YOU for being here, and if you ever do come across the book, I highly recommend it!
abitfrank I might have to read it, tbh. I’m studying to be a librarian and I haven’t read any of Gaiman’s books, so maybe that will be the first :) thank you, again!
I love how you draw one eye deliberately larger/smaller than the other, it's unique and also pretty smart considering how hard it is to draw two eyes EXACTLY the same. (I'm also loving the sketch-like animation style with all the cool wiggly lines!)
Wow, the fact that you can make such a beautiful video about something we didn't think was that important (the rats) is crazy, you went so in depth and I'm impressed!
I dont know how she does it but I have to say she knows how to theorize. All in all abitfrank is my go to for coraline theories keep it up. 👍👍
Edit:thank you soooooooo much I've never got this many likes I'm hoping abitfrank sees this to know she's got some hardcore fans.
Sharlene, you are too sweet
Soooooo way thx soooooooo much I'm like almost about to cry. My full name is coleton. I cant thank u enough for inspiring me to be my best self.
God your such a good narrator, your voice is perfect for these creepy videos,
Your splendid narration along with brilliantly stylised animation makes for an utterly captivating and unique experience.
Not to mention the interesting topics you cover.
Man stuff like this, makes me wish there be a Coraline sequal either book, movie, or both.
I HIGHLY DOUBT THERE WILL BE A SEQUEL
With that said I LOVE CORALINE
Coraline is creepy to me because it feels like a reacurring dream that slowly mutates as time passes into a very unsettling nightmare.
I love the “Rats, man!” Design! Thats my favorite
AbitFrank's character design looks similar to Coraline's (actually I think her hair is the only thing they have in common xD).
Yeah the entire channel has a very Coraline-esque vibe but that could be because I found her though Coraline obsessing
0:17 I'm a brave brave soul.
Thanks for the compliment!
I always just thought that all of their chants were about humanity. We, as a species, have kind of risen to power, being the dominant force on the planet, but rats have existed for longer than us, scurrying around in the dark unseen, but in more numbers than we could ever fathom, and given how resilient they are, I think it’s safe to say that they’ll be alive well after we’ve all perished.
It feels like the rats are mocking the other mother when they talk about their bodies, like they keep saying that they have eyes and nerves and whatnot, almost like they’re bragging about their independence since the other mother didn’t create them
Anyone else just realize that the first chant is also used in the "The Last Dogs" books when Max, Rocky, and Gizmo met the Rat King?
Your Coraline series is awesome, and I totally agree with the theory that there's a bigger lovecraftian monster the door and tunnel are part of. I always interpreted the rats' songs as being directed at Coraline though, if only because of how the timing of the first and second songs are placed in the book. The first song says 'we were here before you rose, we will be here when you fall', which I agree saying Coraline has 'risen' here doesn't make much sense, I think it's more establishing the other world as a place below the real world. It's the rats' motivation, that they see Coraline as better and higher than them either because she has the key to the doors, or just because she lives in the real world and not the creepy void of the other world. So they steal the key and wait for her in the other world, and when she arrives they tell her 'we were here before you fell, you will be here when we rise'. Meaning she's fallen now, and the main thing Coraline has done since the last song is traveling through the tunnel to the other world, and that the other world is below her world/she is no longer better than them. And they threaten to leave her here in the other world and rise themselves into the real world. Presumably to roam free and eat a bunch of people, I guess, given how much they like their teeth. Which is what the last song is about, but you already talked about that- you just didn't mention the forshadowing the first song is doing, which I always thought was cool about the rats' songs on a re-read. Also, the audiobook of Coraline is both red by Neil Gaiman and has a version of the rats' song by Steven Meritt of the Gothic Archies that is very good and creepy, probably the best version of the story including the comic and the movie version, plus Neil has the most soothing voice ever
This all honestly sounds like a parallel to Revelation and the end times.
I like how your mind works.
@@ambergathings7160 thank you! I appreciate this :)
I read this book a long time ago for credit at school and DID NOT REMEMBER how creepy the subtext was. I forgot how Lovecraftian Adjacent this story is.
Da queen has come to grace us with her presence
You've got a nice profile picture, do you know where it's from?
It reminds me of a theory I saw where it talked about how the rats could convince Coraline to become the new "other mother" which makes it really creepy!
The watching the beginning: the rats are scary, but they’re rats, it makes sense
Me seeing drawing of other mother: HOLY-----
*im going to be really vulnerable for a minute:*
i absolutely love the expansion of this. the rats are a huge central character and scary but beautiful representation of what its like to overcome trauma. i personally love this movie because my mom was abusive, so seeing a character i love so much, and the other world that i view as the world my mom wanted me to live in and hid from everyone else (the abusive household no one knew or talked about) is really symbolic for me. i see the rats as a good thing. they come off as evil and maniacal, disgusting and disloyal, and i see to it that imagery is actually from the point of view of the other mother. any attempt to break free of the abuse is a bad thing to her, and a terrifying concept as a child. you want to please your parents in every way you can, even if it means letting yourself be abused, so it makes sense that to coraline, the rats seem scary, but she isnt toally avoidant of them either. the rats don't hurt her, and we can see that as the rats rise to power, so does coraline.
Random Kids: The Movie is so creepy!
My friends: The Book gave me nightmares!
Me: Have you heard my improved Coraline story?
Oh I would love to read it 🥰
not yet GiVe Me nOw
Love the fact a few days ago we found a dead rat in our class (we have this kind of abandoned storage room where are many spiders, rats etc.) And then I watch this video xD
OML WHAT IF THE STORAGE ROOM IS THE DOOR TO THE OTHER WORLDDDD O:
God save me.
oh god.
Creepy 😂
I was JUST watching about coraline!
0:15 "But today, or night, you brave brave souls-"
*How did you know o-O*
‘But today, or night. You brave brave soul!’
Me watching at night : Haha, I’m in danger.
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The effort that goes into all of these videos is so noticeable, really quality stuff!
Could the rats have been the fur that Coraline eventually felt lining the tunnel, or what was following her? The rats could have been all over the walls, waiting to strike or rise or some such.
i’m so happy u uploaded i just got home from school and it really calmed me down 🥺
Me reads book thinks it's a creepy poem the rats said.
Abitfrank- nope it be something bigger.
Me- oh dang
Okay, that merch is the cutest. I NEED IT... but my bank account is like, "no, you don't!"
I think the creature that is the corridor, is ALSO the rats, both sort of serve the Other Mother, while clearly having their own agenda.
Yes. They are not a creation but a tool or ally
Your rat voice echo effect is great!
Me: *Sees new merch* MOM CAN I GET THIS SHIRT!?
Why do you have to put the “Me:”? we know it’s you taking
@@MoltenMonsters Shut Up.
@Lynn Sygonkono4 geez, no need to be a dick, I was just wondering
"We are old and you are young
You grow slow and they grow faster
As you sleep we see them run
We were here before but they will be here after"
Let’s all me honest...
We want a Coraline 2 🙃
Yas in the end of the movie the cat goes through a prtal behind the sign. Showing that the beldam id still alive
Yassss we need ittttt
YASSSSSSSSS **obsessed**
They sold all the Coraline puppets so no Coraline 2
they did... the coraline doll... is really Sally in Nightmare Before Christmas... she got thrown out of Xmas town and ended up in the trash of Halloween town... I have been living these stories for years
This is an excellent analysis. The rats definitely seem to be powerful beings with their own motivations.
I wasn't thinking much about them but they are truly powerful
I would pay money(that i dont have)for abitfrank to read the whole book
You know her voice is so soothing that u will probably fall asleep durimg this
As I watch this video with my rat asleep on my chest looking oh so innocent. Though all I have to fear of this one is stealing my tablet pen 😂 I think I'm safe. Great video!!
Awww that’s so cute! Now I want a rat
I could never. I have a huge fear of rats
please make more coraline stuff, abitfrank! all your coraline videos have beautiful animation, a little dark comedy, and excellent observations.
I love how you put in a Hilda reference :)
I seriously thought I was hallucinating. ABITFRANK MAKE VIDEO ABOUT HILDA NOW!
Rubie Evergreen THEY DO haVe books
I really like your thumbnails. They have a truly gorgeous artstyle combination. Feel disappointed in the YT system that it took me this long to get to this video.
What if the rats made the other mother and controling her without her knowing it
My theory:
The Corridor Creature (which is what I'm calling it) is what is possessing the rats. It's their "hive mind". The Creature got annoyed at the irritating parasite inside of it and sent in some parasites of its own in order to stop her from stealing its victims, or eject her altogether. Hence why the rats were running off with the third soul - they were planning on bringing it to the Creature and luring Coraline in along with it.
Rubie Evergreen That doesn’t make sense because they eat already had a soul.
Im absolutely obsessed with these videos! You've earned a new subscriber, keep up the good work x
In the video Abitfrank just touches on the idea that maybe the rats are trying to make some creature like in Stranger Things, witch is why they chant about eyes tails etc. In stranger things there were rats ‘evil rabid rats’ who were possessed by a very strong force and eventually had their bodies (along with the bodies of people), used to make a creature to give that force a body. Maybe the ‘something larger’ that Abitfrank talks about is something like this
Does anyone know if the creator/s of Stranger things were inspired or something by coraline?
It’s prob just a coincidence or whatever
I love this in depth look of one of my favorite stories especially when I've recently come back to it to explore the lore of it more.
Who else loves abitfrank's voice? It's so soft and easy to listen to😁
The animations in your videos are so incredible omg
maybe the rats are the souls of the people that the Other Mother has devoured to create the world. Hence why they would get what they deserved, and why they would have been down there since before Coraline fell.
Yay, another coraline video, I love these video's, along with your other videos
Her Voice Alone Should Be An ASMR
I only found you yesterday looking at the origins of movies/fairytales and I already love you
I think the Coraline world is connected to another book of Gaiman's, The Ocean at The End of The Lane. It goes a lot more into depth about Gaiman's worldbuilding, what lives in those worlds, and also has an interdimentional cat. ;) And it's a very good read, regardless of if it's connected!
Thanks for featuring me in a video people might not know but I was the rat
I went as Coraline for Halloween and felt great about it! Yes I’m a 5 year old at heart. 🙃
Good thing my insomnia kept me up until 3 am to watch this video
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Abitfrank, can we just get a whole audiobook of Coraline narrated by you? If that was a thing I would SO buy it! Judging by this video your voice is perfect for it, especially with the effects on the rats' voices!
*U post something* Me:Welp there goes my sleep schedule streak
Your voice is so soothing! This is the first video I found of yours well totally binge more! ❤️ and your art is so amazing
I woke up early for thisssss... So effin' worth it
I love your theories theyre so creepy and awesome and your animation style is so freaking awesome as well
I love how the thumbnail looked like Coraline was trying to cosplay as a fortune teller with the Other Mother’s rats..
Please tell me that I’m not alone in seeing that...
And right when I thought there was nothing scary left in the Coraline-Verse..
I have been waiting for this update i enjoy what you do so much
I love how her merch advertisements don't take up half of the video
All your videos are actually really good. I'm glad I found you!
You should look into the book version of The Phantom of the Opera. It has some great chilling moments and settings.
I friggin’ *love* your videos and animation style.
It's literally 3 am I don't know if it's a good idea to watch this but... eh
This is the first video from you that i have ever seen and it, is, GREAT
I would do anything for you and Jon solo to do a collab
*Just watching this at 6 pm, oh boy I can’t wait for the nightmares*
What's funny is that we spent a week to read the book and then watched the movie on Halloween , perfect timing English teacher :3
I think I always interpreted the rats' songs as being addressed, not to Coraline specifically, as in the individual girl, but Coraline as a member of the human race - like, they were here before humans, and they'll be here after humans. The middle song kinda messes with that theory a little ("You will be here when we rise"), but the "you'll all" in the third song makes it seem like the "you" was always a collective, as in "you humans".
Anyway, for being a bookworm, I give you a sub. Glad I found you! :)
I also think they wanted revenge on the other little kids and that’s why they want to keep there souls with them. And needed the other mothers help. But of course wants to over throw the other mother. I don’t think the rats really want to kill coraline but want her to stay and kill the other mother.
Just started watching all of your videos. They are so good and entertaining.
Abother Coraline animation theory? Thanks! And happy Halloween!
Alao hey! Mayve the rats didnt want to share and wanted to lure Coraline to the attic to eat her themselfs before the Other mother does! Maybe they also used one of her creatinons (Other Mr Bobo) to do so?
Happy Halloween 2.0!!!
Omg yes!
I love Coraline conspiracies! Thank you for filling he heart with coraline ♥️
I subscribed hehe
The walls in the beast could have been the rats running into the other world so they don't get swallowed that's why the walls are fury
I’m happy that Coraline videos are still being made :P