Thank you for these videos. To be very honest, I was also swept by emotions and now I feel stupid. Thank for putting do much effort into making these. I hope the rest of the members of AOA are able to get back into the industry.
The only thing that I found about Jessi's "hostility" towards Jimin was a video of them on Unpretty Rapstar and Jessi was basically calling the show out for favouritism when Jimin's team won over someone else. She never went for Jimin's character or anything like that but somehow years later after the clip was released, people are retroactively saying that Jessi was taking a jab at her and "sensed" that she was a bad person from the beginning...
Ikr? I don't ho someone can judge someone by knowing them for just some time and speaking of unpretty rapstar this was a winning show here to win you gotta diss
@@cocoajames5 hmm I don't understand your comment am sorry, the name is pretty weird but why did you said people shouldn't use 'those' shows to prove something?
The amount of research here is insane(in a good way)! I was on Mina’s side before because I felt sympathy for her because I have went through school bullying but after this video, not anymore. I’m glad you are using your platform to bring awareness of who she really is.
Same! I sided with Mina at first because I was also bullied, but I just feel so conflicted now after finding out she's just twisting everything to shame Jimin. I can't believe her
I just wish all the AOA girls would speak up about the truth. Being afraid of Mina harming herself is the same as being afraid of breaking up with a boyfriend who threatens with commiting suicide if you do so. It's NEVER your fault if someone harms themselves, because you rightfully stood up for yourself and wanted to be happy!
@@IceSkull5 ya and i do think they care about her even though they might not like her now but like when you spend almost 9/10 years of your life with certain people you are bound to care about them
I know... but we all saw what happened with that nurse... I bet even Allkpop and Soompi won't dare to post contents similar to Mina lying or else I remember Allkpop did this to P1Harmony's Keeho's scandal. Even tho the proofs weren't released by the company someone still posted the proofs.
I specifically want to point out to that "hair salon" part. You're right. As someone who's always in control of short-tempered strict and manipulative parents who constantly use emotional abuse, that's correct. When you're afraid of someone, the last thing you would want to do is anger them on purpose. You're supposed to be seen like walking on egg shells and be careful at every one of their movements. No one who's scared of someone tries to go against them or have courage to do that on purpose. What Mina did didn't make sense to me, personally. She was trying to anger Jimin and her members on purpose and twist the ACTUAL situation and use it for her own defense and benefit. This entire case is such a mess oh god.
but then again sometimes they have enough and snap and try to do stuff to anger them (i’m talking about myself, then again not everyone is like this) but no way am i saying mina wasn’t playing the victim cause she honestly is
@@NanHoumSian yeah She think that being and working as a kpop idol is easy No it's not Mina , being an idol (kpop , pop , jpop , or any other pop genre based group or solo) is not easy . THIS IS T-ARA SCANDAL ALL OVER AGAIN IN A MUCH BIGGET SCALE
In one of her recent lives, she spoke about the worse thing Seolhyun did and her answer was about how Seolhyun’s dog pooped himself in the dorm when she brought him over and it smelled. Like.. they don’t even live in the same dorm. They have 2 dorms, Mina shared a dorm with Hyejeong and Jimin while Seolhyun shared a dorm with Yuna, Choa and Chanmi. Seolhyun got her dog in the end of 2016 and she moved out in 2017 to live with her sister after Choa left the group. She said she wanted an apology from Seolhyun for this. The fact that this is the worse thing she can think of makes me 😭😭
Are we also going to ignore the amount of celebrities that are still supporting Seolhyun? So many celebrities are still liking her photo and Taeyeon even commented on her Instagram when she returned. Even Peniel, who is Mina’s close friend, is still liking every single one of Seolhyun’s recent photos and he hasn’t even liked any of mina’s recent ones. Let’s all wait until the whole truth out before we all send hate.
@@carlosdcovers8425 It feels so weird to see nice comments about AOA...? Like it’s crazy honestly. I feel like most people didn’t know about most of these small details, they just see clickbait titles from allkpop, soompi (etc) or watch lying ass RUclips videos or edited “bullying” videos out of context.
@@onigrri8790 and what's more annoying is the fact that she says now she has cervical dysplasia and before she had cervical cancer because of guess what? JIMIN. She blamed Jimin for her HPV when clearly it is a type of STD. Like damn the lies
So whole time she was that person in a group project who did the bare minimum then was shocked when the leader of the group calls her out so she goes and plays victim 💀
A koreans note about the incident Korean here. Here is the list of lies regarding aoa that have been exposed so far. ✔️Mina said she couldn’t see her father pass because of jimin ➡️ lies. Later in insta live she said her manager took her there but she was busy reading her script (she was acting for a drama then) + was too scared to go. Most recently her texts with the boyfriend revealed she actually did go see her father pass. ✔️She said that only jimin missed work when jimin’s dad died ➡️ lies. Schedule confirms that Mina’s schedule was cleared, 27 out of 33 schedules. ✔️She said that chanmi and seolhyun said they don’t care what happens, or do what about the good times etc. after the scandal ➡️ later in her kakao it turns out that those words were said during Te contract renewal period, NOT after the jimin scandal. ✔️ mina said jimin yelled at her for not practicing her vocals ➡️ Mina herself said she only had vocal lessons 3 times her whole life ✔️She hurt herself and took sleeping pills because she was afraid jimin would yell at her ➡️ the reason? Few days before the comeback mina suddenly got hairline surgery (cosmetic) without letting others know and missed dance practices during a crucial time for comeback. This affected the group and of course jimin, the leader was mad. But mina blames it on jimin for being angry rather than reflecting on her behavior. ✔️Seolhyun’s name was mentioned along with jimin? ➡️ after all the stories Mina told about jimin, the only “story” she was able to tell about seolhyun was that one time seolhyun brought her dog to the dorm without notice and the dog pooped. ✔️Aoa is a bystander bully group? ➡️ at first Mina said she got along with everyone except jimin. Then she started calling them bystanders. Months later she said they would drink with her and listen to her & talk about jimin with her. Then recently she said she was never bullied and that she was happy during her AOA times. ✔️Mina is a victim of aoa’s bullying incident? ➡️ aoa would send mina coffee cart when she would act for her drama. Mina said seolhyun is like a younger sister she cares for and that hyejeong is her best friend. She said seolhyun listens to her problems a lot. Mina herself was rude to chanmi during trainee days just because Chanmi didn’t eat a lot. Even around the time of her leaving the group, Mina went to an amusement park with seolhyun and even a week before she exposed jimin, she went on a trip with hyejeong. Aoa continued to contact her and cheer her on through sns. And yet people say it’s a bully group and mina was bullied for 10 years. Please wake up people. ✔️Mina cut herself because of AOA? ➡️ the pictures she posted with her cutting herself when she exposed jimin was actually from a month before when she was stressed about the contract money issues. This was revealed later. She also cut herself because of a cosmetic company, because of the nurse incident, because she said she can’t trust any friends near her.. etc. this has been a pattern. Just because someone cuts themselves doesn’t mean everything they say about another person is true. People need to learn more about personality disorders….
@@AngelaChan97 yeah exactly she has lied about everything else lol, she even promised to stop using sns a few days ago but heeere we are today and she's still using it to slander people 🤦♀️
Yeah cause staying silent is better if they speak mina may harm herself and jimin will have all the blame so it would be a lose lose so staying quiet is good
When this first started i 100% sided with mina, but i didn't really hate jimin, i just accepted that she was factually a terrible person and moved on. However, the moment i saw everyone throwing so much hate at jimin and exploiting the situation to get clout, i immediately suspected something like this would happen lmao. This is why y'all shouldn't rush to make those videos that are like "x idol being rude and a bully", they tend to age like milk.
Omg same. I sided with Mina but never hating on Jimin ( probably just going around saying how horrible person she is ) but come to think of what Mina's doing/updates lately, i watch and read Mina's "evidences" i start to have second thoughts. What if Mina lied to everyone? What if she's playing victim? Goddamn. This case couldn't be even more confusing.
I feel like a clown believing all those video they are literally edited Just like how blackpink haters made videos against Jennie being a "bully" and bullying the pinks while in reality she was just having fun and roasting them This is all just manipulation and all I can't believe people fall for all THIS
Something else I just realized is that a lot of companies would blame the leaders for a mistake, even if they themselves weren’t the one to make it. Such as a dancing mistake: it would be taken to the leader and the leader of the group would get scolded or get a punishment. This was talked about on a show showing the dark sides of Kpop (I don’t remember which group it was, but I do remember it was a female group) and it openly showed this on camera as well. Jimin was most likely not a bully, but strict and “bossy” because Mina would not take her job seriously and wouldn’t show up to practice or rehearsals and barely practiced singing. Jimin most likely got the blame when it was Mina’s fault. Plus, Mina is very sensitive and uses the minor inconvenience to make a fuss out of it, which she most likely used Jimin’s “leader” and “strict” role and personality and took it as “bullying.”
After watching kdrama "Imitation" i really believe this is happening. In the drama, whenever some member did something bad, the leader or the manager will be scolded by the staff. Not that particular member. If i'm being scolded for things i didn't do i will be extremely mad too
Moral of the story: *ALWAYS STAY NEUTRAL NO MATTER WHAT* Edit: some conversations between jimin and mina were leaked by dispatch, and now people are suspecting that jimin might be also a victim (watch the recent drama updates to understand) this really shows how 'staying neutral' is the best decision when it comes to these scandals.
I remember everyone was like "I hate hearing Jimin's voice, she sounds like a dying cat" ....Mina went to like 2.5 vocal lessons... And you are calling Jimin terrible?
plus, jimin's voice is one of the most recognizable rap tones in kpop..? like i know its her just by hearing one word. also people prefer another boring deep voice monotone rapper than someone with a unique voice, people are weird
@misschanandlerbong1621 funny that nobody makes that kind of comment when it comes to male rappers. Annoying and ☢️ is REALLY YOU, you boygroup stan! 🤡🙄😒🤮🤦♀️💢
I was always sceptical from the start. After T-ARA I learnt that everybody should take a backseat when it comes to accusations and wait it out. I'm so sorry for Jimin and the rest of AoA. Clearly, Mina is a masterful manipulator who has some deeply held misogynistic values and has held a deep, deep grudge against her ex-colleagues. I feel so bad for AoA, I hope Jimin sues her for defamation, threats, and sexual assault. I hope the rest of the girls can gain back some public support and I support them in whatever they decide to do, either staying in retirement or coming back into showbiz.
Might as well as getting lifetime compensation bcs jimin most likely not be able to return to the industry. But knowing mina, she didnt even have a proper job 🙄 where would she get the money lol she even had the audacity to say that she will return to the industry lolll like who wants you, you only hv pretty face but not a single talent or brain
The difference between T-ARA / Hwayoung and AOA / MINA is that AOA career as a group is already over meanwhile in T-ARA they have a little chance. Mina destroy the group when the only to blame was the agency or jimin but not drag everyone else
@@lauraxiu930 exactly! No talent whatsover, skills can be acquired tho but I don't think it's gonna work for her because hardwork, practice, dedication, determination ain't seem like her strong points.
@@emotionaldamage9894 fr and imagine if she started acting in a drama then another few months she will dragged down some other celebrities in her instagram 🤡🤡🤡
The things that had me sick is that the amount of hate jimin got. people hating on her because of her bully scandal. Claiming that they hate a bully but what they did to Jimin isn't different. Make fun of her look because she lost too much weight due to ED. Make fun of her voice and literally called her a monster because she look too skinny.
people on ig praise mina's looks everytime she shows her face even when she is coming to apologize for her actions. a lot of people simply hated jimin quickly because they found her ugly compared to angelic looking mina.
For anyone pitying Jimin. Gosh, you are all horrible. Bullies must receive death penalty if I am to decide. It is not easy to fOrGivE, foRgEt, and LeArN at all after being psychologically abused. The bullying does not only affect a part of someone's life but it affects a person's lifetime. And the damage does not heal with a simple forgiving because that is so unfair. Imagine your bully having fun bullying you, and still in the future she is happy and successful. While the bullied one suffered and continues to suffer throughout his or her life.
Mina takes only 3 vocal lessons during her 6-7 years in AOA. Wonders why leader Jimin is critical of her and views her as lazy. Also wonders why Jimin views ultra hardworking Seolhyun favorably.
Fr her vocal is really weak 😭 she cant even sing 😭 i gotta admit that she and chanmi were the members that cant sing in the group at first but chanmi improved so much. chanmi is really hardworking, keeps on attending vocal class and during bingle bangle era you can see her improvement and come see me??? that shit was dope and in queendom you can compared her vocal to before. see, there’s difference between someone who is lazy and hardworking.
for people who are saying it's hard to prove bullying infront of police: police will question each one of them individually, police will take statements from staffs and managers, make up artists and people whom they have worked with.police will have access to things in fnc that no one else has. police can also cross check things about jimin's dad funeral etc. mina supporters siding with her over her decision of denying police investigation just tell me they themselves are not confident of her statements and do not want to be proven wrong in the court of law.
@@eri6984 Imagine if we said that with the George Floyd case. Imagine if his family and friends didn’t fight for him because the system can be corrupt. If you want justice and peace with mind you try and try and try until you get justice whether or not the system is for or against you.
can we collectively start an apologize to aoa? a 10yo group made by endless efforts shouldn't end like this. a group composed of members who have their own career and individual life as well. damn, that girl really tried to ruin it
no, those who still believe jimin bullied mina still blindly accept whatever bullshit is mina saying. i bet they’re not even elvis and they dont even know who is aoa before this. they just joined in the bandwagon and sending hate to jimin and aoa. unless the media like koreaboo, allkpop published about mina’s lies officially WITH EVIDENCES then people will start apologise to them. this is really sad to see a group who hv so many potential and worked so hard climbing up for these past 10 years get destroyed just with a lie
@Nessie Stone yeah, I agree. However I don’t think that the root of Mina’s mental health declining is Jimin. It all seems complicated to fans rn, there’s not really enough information to make any assumptions yet. Hopefully this gets resolved soon and all the members of AOA (especially those in the bullying rumors) get some peace of mind finally.
The most likely answer is that she already accomplished her goal, the character assassination of Jimin and the fact that she lied and exaggerated the truth.
@Nessie Stone yeah maybe she’s going through something even before AOA and she’s just taking her frustration out on Jimin…which isn’t bad it’s okay to get it all out cause it’s unhealthy to keep it bottled in but it isn’t good to take your anger and pain out on someone else. And on the other hand if you’re going through pain that’s run even farther than the idol group you’re in then you should talk it out with your group members rely on them and let them rely on you, that’s what being a team is about trusting your band mates to listen, care for you, and not let you down and in turn you do the same for them…..which she isn’t doing because from this video Mina seems like a very unreliable person to work with-it’s honestly a wonder how Jimin dealt with that for 7 years. Also I don’t even think Jimin yelling at her was bullying, maybe being insensitive without Jimin realizing it, but I fully believe that it’s Jimin giving her strict constructive criticism which if you’re going to be a performer you have to learn how to deal with criticism-and I understand not getting it immediately because I’m still learning to deal with handling it myself, but then there’s Mina who prolly has barely made an effort to deal with it-I swear if I was Jimin I would not have dealt with Mina’s bullshit, in fact it seems Jimin started getting tired of dealing with Mina’s bs as well which is prolly another reason why she yelled at her, I mean dealing with it for 7 years plus training as well Jimin’s bound to crack eventually I’m just surprised it took this long for her to
@Nessie Stone just adding, just saying. Im not invalidating what mina gone through. She is pitiful, yes, but doesn't mean she did no wrongdoing About 'NOBODY is doing anything to help her' Are we sure?? I've encountered, befriend and a close one at that, a unique person like this: my other bff bring her food, listen to her, help all her college assignment, give support to her family issue. It is either im in front of them seeing and listening to it or im in it join placating her. And she, this unique person actually still dare to say in front of our face as she tell her story that NOBODY help her, nobody support her. Oh not forgeting when the other friends who finally give her 'im done with you', she said to her that she want to suicide because of her, blame her, etc. Wtf right. Please everyone remember that 1. there is, out there, a person, an individual who would say 'im so hungry no one give me food, no one care for me' as you sit beside them and bring them a kfc. 2. For someone to help, the person itself must want to get helped. Don't even try helping someone who won't helping themself
I lost all the respect for her when she talked about Jimin 's sex life .... I mean WTH girl !!! So what if she brings men ... it's her life her choice ... Who are you to leak someone else's personal life's information ?
indeed.. she keept insisting to stay but after 5 minutes she is back with gore pics and angry captions again.. she is not healthy and I believe more people will be affected since she has influence.. at the end people who get involved become unhealthy too
i agree but can we please stop with the "idol life isnt for everyone" schtick, since its quite toxic and downplays the very valid reason why idols like mina felt this way. It doesn't bring any fruitful conversation, just victim blaming
By the early days of AOA, they were barely surviving and not even earning as a group but thanks to seolhyun (the girl who's being hated for foolish and shallow reasons) was able to climb up the popularity. They were able to promote much better with gained audience from seolhyun's impact. And Jimin being the leader in that group. Mina with her lacking efforts as she said that she only took 3 vocal lessons and even missing dance practice. I think jimin did treated mina not that great but does that mean bullying? If a person doesn't treat you better than what you want, would you consider it bullying already? I have a friend who I have found out that he kinda hated me. Because of my certain actions. In our circle of friends, sometimes he would say something and act bad about me. But as I realised it was because of the series actions that are not good that I made. But I did not consider it bullying, because every person is different. You cannot just claim anyone who treats you bad a bully. Sometimes the things that we get hated at are the things that we unconsciously do that makes other people hate us.
Agreed. There's actually one time i genuinely asking and confronting the person who keep mocking/'bullying' me for no reasons, but the next days, they couldn't get even mock/'bully' me ( hell, they even told me to kms in a "joking" way but still ) even moreーwhich also the reason why i had s*icidal thoughts until today and afraid of coming out with all of these stories for getting a professional help. What if i'm just playing victim? or i just feel like i'm the only one who is unable to take a "joke" or i should say, i'm being too sensitive? I'm not ready for that conversations yet i just want to get this out of me.
I think people forget that in kpop groups the leaders take responsibility for the member's actions, so if a member acts out the company scolds the leader, this adds stress to the leader especially if the members keep acting out and the leader keeps getting the punishment.
the generation is different u know.. people in t-ara times are already parents and quit to know bout kpop scandal.. now, their children took the baton..
@Shut Up Your Breath Stinks It was a bullying scandal, one member claimed she was bullied by the group, and the group got so much hate for it for years, it literally destroyed the group and the member's career. It turned out that the allegations were false, that the member lied and was actually the one being the bully, refusing to practice and having a bad attitude in general. You should check the video of their first win since the bullying, that happened 5 years after the allegations came out, the girls are crying the entire time, it really showed how this scandal impacted them in general (their career, having no wins / support for the public for 5 years, but also mentally). It's heartbreaking : ruclips.net/video/3-iLRWHQN_M/видео.html&ab_channel=Jiyeonista
@Shut Up Your Breath Stinks It is awful, it really shows that people should be more careful when it comes to bullying allegation. Obviously, you should always trust the victim, but with a grain of salt. And even if the allegations are true, not sending hate to the bully / entire group for what one of several members did.
After she got hates for exposing jimin’s sex life recently during her instagram live, mina said she will stay silent and reflect on her wrongdoings, the day after that her friend tagged her in an ig story where they both were seen to be hanged out together at busan. This girl didnt feel any guilty at all. She just backed off for a moment bcs people are starting to aware how ridiculous she is
You should make part 2 since she has been caught in more lies since then. We have the nurse incident, fake wrist photo, several celebrities unfollowing Mina on IG while still following the AOA members, Mina's claim that she got a STD from stress, and the cheating incident where she stole someones boyfriend knowing that he already had a girlfriend.
I also forgot to mention her totally insane claim that a shaman was able to exorcise 4 evil spirits from her body and now shes all better and ready to return to the entertainment industry (aka, shes out of money and needs to scam another agency for money).
Thanks god, I'm not the only one. I'm litterally scared of Mina because she doesn't look like she is afraid to hurt herself. The fact that she chose to destroy Jimin right after her father passed is very insensitive. Even if Jimin did bully her, I would feel bad for Jimin's family if I were in her shoes.
She didn't say mina isn't allowed to cry, she said why is she crying in a professional setting if she was excused from activity. Mina could have just gone home but she didn't she stayed there and cryed.
Mina didn't want do it, she don't have any prove and witness for her claim. But I'm curious, why she didn't use her medical report card. She said she been eating pill since few year already. I don't think, hospital or clinic didn't record it. I really want know about this real story. From my knowledge, to consume mental illness medicine need doctor reference. Illegal pill are banned in SK. I'm confused. I need listen from both side.
Or maybe she choose not to do it since she doesn't have the heart to "jail" someone? But the problem is, she is a public figure/celebrity. People expecting her to do and share that police investigation after the whole bullying scandal, but she thought/claim theyーthe peopleーare "attacking" her so she can't deal with it and decided to go "venting" on her instagram instead... I'm sorry if this don't making any sense i hope you understand though since english isn't my first language.
This is how mina reacts when she was attacked for calling out chanmi and seolhyun. Fyi, chanmi has been battling depression since 2014 and ran away from dorm and jimin was looking for her and even running at the han river and comforted her. This also the reason chanmi’s mom moved near their dorm. Also, mina called chanmi’s face a bat when she didnt eat much bcs of the depression and she said she hated her for being skinny. seolhyun has been working too hard till she passed out on the stage: Seven years of bullying? Depression? Literally a circus. She wouldn’t have been able to talk about it on broadcast if she were really scared and vulnerable. When have I ever talked about Shin Jimin on TV? You say I’m the one who started the pity party by hurting myself? Speak only after you’ve experienced 10 years (of torture). Unconsciousness? I’ve dealt with that way more. I still faint from the stress and depression, so my entire body is covered in bruises. And what, they comforted me? Do you think they were sincere? Even after reading everything I wrote? If only they didn’t comfort me, I would not have gotten my hopes up. Why didn’t they release statements? So technically she’s been saying that chanmi’s depression is a joke and she suffered way more than seolhyun 🙄 gurl you didnt even attend your vocal class and dance practice. seolhyun is packed with cfs, modelling, dramas and still tried to give her time for aoa even just for a while but you?? chanmi’s depression is a circus for you bcs she talked about it on tv? oh how about you that keeps on posting triggering pics and even some from google and some of your old photos to seek attention from people? the only circus here is you
"an unnie threatened me and told me to keep my laces untied so that i can trip on stage and so that i would get hate or else she would bully me blah blah blah"
Mina admitted today that the other members (excluding Jimin) did not bully her. 1 year ago, she called the other members bystanders, claimed they were no different then Jimin, and even implied that Seolhyun and Chanmi were also bullies. She got the public to turn against them. Now she admits they didn't bully her and is blaming the media for twisting her words (typical, its always someone elses fault). I'm sorry but why didn't you publicly tell the media that the other members were innocent 1 year ago? Why now after completely destroying AOA and the other members careers are you admitting that you lied? If you read her new post, shes still trying to frame herself as the victim in all of this. She is pure evil.
I knew Mina was sus from the beginning, but I was scared to talk about it because everyone believed Mina and didn’t give Jimin a chance to explain herself
@@cheri7 There is a proof that the photo is been upload before mina. We don't know if it's really hers or not. But that's means what she posted was not an event that happened at that time right?
This brought a lot of evidence to the table that most wouldn’t care enough to look at and it’s actually sad. Once twitter pins someone as a bully, it spreads to other social media platforms and then they’re a “bully” forever.
Mina said in a program: she said "I hated Chanmi for 7 years because she ate very little, but she also called Mina Chanmi a bully. Mina who hates Chanmi for some ridiculous reason, but the bully Chanmi? It's so silly. Mina needs a good treatment. And please Mina's fans stop sending disgusting messages. We're tired of getting death messages.
@@onigrri8790 Misleading video clips do not count as evidence. If we look at him, there are many videos of Jimin that he is not a bully. Even in the videos Mina and Jimin secretly posted, they laugh at each other, they are close. whose side are you on right now?
i thought mina was innocent.. but after seeing how she got into a relationship with a guy who was publicly dating someone else.. i decided to search for a video like this
Same but I looked because I noticed her posts were kind of weird on Instagram…. If she was going through stuff she should have stayed off of social media
I kinda regreted defending her. All of the situations that going on now, made me refuse to believe if she is actually the "victim". It feels like she 'forced' to make everybody siding with her without giving a chance to listening to the other AOA members side of the story.
@@lunarialoonatic people go through stuff differently so her sharing it doesn’t invalidate it or make It “fake” Also no I am not on anyone’s side but just pointing that out. Yes I did hear about her fake wrist pics so I am now just staying neutral
I also think you should have mentioned how she blamed seolhyun as bystander in her suicide note and went on live few weeks ago and said seolhyun should apologize to her because she raised a puppy in the dorm which btw she wasn't even sharing with seolhyun. she lived in a different apartment than seolhyun who was living with choa,chanmi and yuna. why does seolhyun need to apologize for raising a puppy to mina? she can not come up about a single instance of seolhyun bullying her so she starts blaming her puppy.
she dragged Seolhyun into this mess to gain more clout. now Seolhyun is just getting as much hate for being close friend w jimin and labelled as bystander. speaking of the live, may i know which ig live was it? (possibly with timestamps)
which livestream are you refering to by the way? I just want to know, because I don't want to believe every rumours about someone without proofs, even if many people talk about it. if that's true, then big yikes to Mina, and that makes me doubt her statements even more.
@@bboombayah4662 this.. ruclips.net/video/0pukq3E6N1w/видео.html no one post hard subbed English video.. but someone posted the link on Pann before then summarized the live. After this live, she had another live at night before she went to sleep. Both has parts explain similar things
Not Mina herself proving you right. That girl is terrible and crazy and at this point I feel so bad for all the AOA members including Jimin for ever having to deal with a member like her.
Now people shouldn't send hate to mina either. And apologize to Jimin too. To be fair who ever send Jimin hate did it on their own expanse, so mina shouldn't be their excuse. Everyone got a brain of theirs.
@@elsasnow6224 of course! I don’t like what Mina did but that doesn’t mean I don’t like her. I really want her to get better and be able to have a full recovery. I’m just really happy that you finally said it m❤️
This was the comment I was looking for. Although I regret hating Jimin that doesn't mean I hate Mina now. Im just hoping that Mina recovers well and I'm hoping for the best for both of them
Seriously at this point? Last year when this blew up. A lot of fans even elvis's that I know from twitter or insta encouraged her to bring this up to the police so that it will be investigated the right way. But mina insisted, a statement from her IG post that she would just keep on bringing back her painful days in AOA if that happens but girl its almost a year already and were still running in circles. And btw she's claiming she has evidences of it all, but does not want to show it seriously???. Just get this to legal action so that it would be over. The contents she posts in insta are not healthy!!! Coming from someone who has experienced depression and behaviour difficulty. It affects my emotional state as some point, how much more to those who are dealing with something. At some point I'm so tired commenting support in her insta post. Her insta is flooded with support always!!! But all she notices are the hate ones. You're not helping yourself 😔. I'm getting so disappointed! Please tell me my thinking is wrong 😔
To this day, I don't think Jimin is completely blameless. But since this whole issue started I just had problems with Mina. It's like she went crazy and kept doing things to garner people's sympathy and attention, even at the extent of leaving misunderstandings unsolved just so she could get herself carried away emotionally. It's like she didn't want to make everything better, she wanted everyone to burn down along with her.
@@Simba.26 Maybe. Also, takes two to tango so Mina's prior behaviors probably made Jimin disatisfied since it's the leader that bears the brunt of the management's comments and corrections and that's why she can't stop the emotion from her eyes when she looks at her. It reminds me of ryu sera from nine muses who was scolded by staf for not managing a member well who I think didn't dance well or kept being late. Later she was removed from the leader position even when she was still in the group.
@@andreahl3494 mina said she went to get hairline surgery before dance practice but she would have need 2 -3 week recovery time. So why she would do that before AOA practice for their comeback makes no sense. And she had to know that would pissed anybody off. That's something to do on ur off time. And leaders really have it hard because if members mess up it is still their responsibility.
@@Simba.26 Exactly. It's a bit annoying how she keeps selfishly seeing herself as a VICTIM when her own behavious also added to the issue. She needs to grow up because the world does not cater to just her whims. People can't always baby her because they too need to be strict on their own selves and the people they're managing to get things done.
@@andreahl3494 I seems like she only understood her pain while not seeing how the other girls had it hard too. Being a idol isn't easy and it seems like she wasn't pulling her weight in the group. Most kpop groups I know the members ALWAYS thanks the leader because they have a hard time, usually young adults trying to take care of each other. Sometimes have to make sure their members goes to school, dance practice and etc.People said she might have been jealous that AOA got bigger after she left, and the members were doing pretty good at that time. Kingdom 2019 did show AOA talent
All those who witch hunted Jimin and AOA should be ashamed of themselves and try to make amends by supporting the AOA members from now on. At least leave some kind and supportive comments on their social media - that's the least you could do
What frustrates me is that despite the evidence PEOPLE R STILL IN DENIAL BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA ADMIT THEY WERE FOOLED BY MINA i mean who wants to feel like an idiot right? LIKE JUST ADMIT IT MINA WAS A MANIPULATIVE LIAR AND JIMIN NEEDS JUSTICE.
I pitied her but never hated Jimin. I admit I did defend Mina when people tried calling her on in the first few weeks when the “scandal” was still new but I never slandered Jimin in those posts. In the early days of the scandal I saw a post that basically said “No one was wrong and this is just a big misunderstanding. Jimin was just a strict leader/ person and Mina being a sensitive person just over exaggerated everything from her perspective”. I stuck with that conclusion and stayed quiet after I noticed her claims inconsistencies and after she just started slandering everyone who even so slightly disagree with her.
Funny how now everyone is siding against Mina when people have been calling out her bs. Just because someone threatens to take their life doesn't mean you have to believe their every word and support them. You can stay out of it and let the professionals handle it. No need to jump to conclusions and judge. Now that Korea is turning on her, people are starting to see throw her manipulation. Of course some still make excuses and support her, but the others who strongly believed her are starting to say "of i see through her now, she's this and that"
Is korean gp starting to turn their back on her? And you are right, it's important to stay neutral but also look into both sides. Funny how people pretend to know everything lol
Yes, I read comments on her IG and it's bad even worse because the friend of the ex-gf keep calling mina out for her lies and she even posted an IG story of a naver article criticizing Mina. 😱
@@abi2304 Looking into both sides is ok, but it's not our place to talk about it or go send hate to either party. That makes it harder for the person telling the truth
@LovelyKisses no I mean the friend of the ex gf posted a screenshot of an article in Naver in which that article criticized Mina. I was actually answering the question of @AK2 😅
Yesterday or two days ago, Chanmi posted a story saying there's no point to get mad when nothing can change. And then Mina posted and wrote the caption: Oh let's not write negative posts...
And now, she leave a comment in jimin's ig post..... Seriously, as a victim of bullying, I don't even want to know if my bully was alive or not, I'll just think of him as dead because I resent him so much How come KMA still stalking SJM if she's the one who bully her?
Hila Holo at this point she’s just bitter about AOA’s success at queendom, she herself even admitted recently that she was “possessed by evil spirits so she went through exorcism”
@@armyswhoblinkonce2711 it’s Fairytales by Gabbie Sophia. The lyrics of Villain are more a play one everyone being the hero in their own mind. It still kind of fits though with the lyrics that translate to “the villain you failed to notice is within you” and “the person you hate most is someone’s beloved child”.
Mina is seriously turning into Gabbie Hanna at this point. Both need serious help. And it’s such a shame, because AOA as 5 on Queendom was everything. Now we’ll never get more of that
@@Belle_vie Kma fans attacking translators but Why none of her fansites translating her posts and staying quiet? Are u guys afraid to expose her true face? Who is being biased here.? Instead of attacking ppl by using mental health as excuse, go read her posts properly and reflect
While the Mina-Jimin situation is a delicate subject for K-Pop fans to discuss, the OP did was analyze the situation based on how Mina explained her stories from her Instagram. The video is not a response to what Mina posted on Instagram (an almost 40-minute RUclips video does not take a day or 2 to create *I can be wrong on this*). The timing of the video and Mina's recent post is a coincidence. Should the OP delete the video because some viewers were offended by the content? No, because that is guilt-tripping. The OP should have the final decision whether to delete the video or not on her own terms. As I mentioned previously, this issue is a delicate subject. There may be controversial information that some fans may not want to hear. But it is fucked up to blame someone by saying “If Mina commits suicide because of this video, blood will on your hands" (or other similar phrases like this). It is not her fault for creating this video and bringing a different pov on a situation that is not easy to talk about.
Now that Jimin is back to Instagram, Mina has been posting and deleting, a5aforever who translate from korean have all the evidence. Kudos to Jimin for not sue her bc she knows she needs help. And as someone who has a mental illness: IT'S NOT excuse to be a bad person, or yo ruin someone life.
To think that I blindly supported mina and villainized jimin. I looked like a fool. I think its just best to not have an opinion in these kind of controversies and just watch as a bystander
You wanna know what I hate? When something like this happenes and then people say "oh this just proves that we DON'T KNOW our idols" but then they also say something like this "well now we KNOW this idol is a bad person" ...you see what i'm getting at?
Yeah. They are such Hypocrites. I don't get a lot of kpop Stan's. Another thing is that one time knetz said a idol mocked a bald person and that was body shaming and yet they body shame idols for being either too fat or too skinny(which they aren't by the way). See what I mean
During the beginning of this situation, i didnt rlly believe mina or anything. Even tho i stanned them since like 2014. A similar situation happened in school where this guy (A) accused another guy (B) for bullying bc A didn’t like him, A wanted to b better than him. B didn’t do anything to defend himself cause everyone was attacking him and saying he didn’t deserve to go to school. Later B had killed himself and A admitted that B never bullied or talked to him at all. i never hated jimin even during the scandal bc we never know whats the actual truth
Same here. I was sad when the scandal broke but i never hated jimin .i was like why should i hate her and call her names when that karma will come back to me ? Peace is the way ..
Same. I feel really sorry for jimin even tho I myself never wrote any hate comments to her in yt or in ig or any other platform but I'm still Disappointed in myself that I've liked some of the comments in yt saying how horrible she is, bully etc and believed Mina all those time...Mina really fooled a lot of us. Gonna Remove those Likes and report those edited videos and I'll Never believe her again without solid evidences and I hope jimin is doing fine..after all this situation is just messy..
I love how people are crying at you to take this video down because of Mina’s newest post. But your video shows proof of everything you said. She shows literally no evidence in her post. They want you to take something down because it’s not presenting their idol as the angel they want her to be. Kpop fans are crazy. She needs to stay tf off social media and get therapy.
I'm now seeing things in a new perspective as in Mina's new post she talks about how she doesn't have evidence as she didnt think to collect evidence but before she clearly stated she has lots of evidence. I dont get why she keeps changing her narrative...
@@babyfaceweeb8937 the worst part is that there are more chances of RHY showing repentance and changing her ways than KMA, which is sad... and I HATE what RHY did and have a hard time when she's mentioned
This honestly just breaks my heart. I feel bad for Mina I really do, she’s obviously going through something. She needs to realize that things are just going to get worse for her the more she keeps lying. I don’t understand why she would lie about something so serious. I have gone through bullying and abuse before and the fact that there’s proof of her lying about such a thing makes me so upset. I truly did believe her in the beginning but then she started to constantly talk about it and started to act weird. She needs to stop using her mental health as excuse to avoid the truth. She needs to come out with the truth and get it over with. Jimin’s career is on the line right now because of Mina. Mina publicly talked about her sexual life as if it was everyone’s business. She has lied about the other members as well almost ruining their reputation as well. She needs to come out with the TRUTH. I don’t hate her at all. I do want her to be happy but she really needs to take a step back and realize what she’s doing Aoa.
I just want to add two things to this video: 1. can we please remember that mina's ex best friend, hyejeong, told us to support both mina and jimin? and she was incredibly brave for that. mina's clearly not the only victim here. 2. imagine how bad seolhyun and the members must feel. they were dragged too (eventually just seolhyun and kinda chanmi), couldn't even speak and mina took advantage of it inciting people to send hate to them when things were getting calmer for them. but yeah, then she would come up with the "don't relate the members nor me to this" and it's also funny how she would hang out with them after her departure, interact with them on sns, say they were her main support during the aoa years... no hate to her, but thanks mina for ruining it all
@@angiessaranghae1087 Because Chanmi would only eat half a bowl of rice at meals when they were still in predebut. It made Mina jealous and considered Chanmi to be a tryhard.
Mina purposely did things to annoy Jimin and AOA. It is Jimin's job as leader to make sure each of the members are practicing enough. And Mina has shown to be irresponsible during her job multiple times. If I was the leader, I would've been pissed off too. Not to mention her making up rumors to destroy Jimin's reputation and career. How did people not listen to the truth despite the many pieces of evidence?
I keep telling people as a leader it was her job to make sure the group was doing why they had to do. Every mistake mina would have been her responsibility to deal with.That's kpop groups always talk abt how they love their leaders because they know they have it hard
I wonder if the rest of AOA will ever present their testimonies. Obviously they can’t speak up soon with Mina’s current behavior. But they’re basically trapped. If Mina refuses to seek proper help and repeats this pattern forever, then they’ll perpetually be on the verge of being labeled as murderers and bystanders for life. The worst part is, what if they do come out and their testimonies overwhelmingly contradict hers? I can’t imagine Mina being able to accept the public changing their opinion of her. I hope that she’ll never resort to pulling her trump card to remain as the victim forever.
this is the main reason other members are not speaking up. mina is unstable and according to her new post she self harms herself ever third day and has attempted suicide by taking pills before. if they speak their truth and knetz somehow question mina over it she won't be able to bear it. she is self pitying herself to the point even if hundreds of fans love her she takes offense over 10 hate comments and starts it all over again. she will never not see herself as a victim or even want to recover from her trauma.
@@medicals.4366 this time if other members says something, and if Mina can't handle coz she's oversensitive harm herself again knetz will trash the members and knetz can be such bishes. As if other members aren't facing problems already, they obviously don't want anything that gonna cause problems.
I agree with this comment. It'll gonna be hella huge problem if Mina ever lied about everything, yet, after this case over, and the next thing we knew she's "venting" on her instagram account again because of FNC and AOA 'trauma' she had a hard time doing things even eating like lmao- at this point if her hair got messy it'll be their fault. I just hope that this problem will be solved by both parties soon. But come to think of it, i doubt if AOA could build a stable career again because they already framed as "bystanders" or "bully" and Mina is exposed as a "playing victim". So i can say thatーthis situation just end up like T-Ara and Hwayoung case 2.0 and it's...i have no words to describe it.
Ikr if one or the members say something mina would obviously harm herself and the members would get blamed so it would be a lose lose thats why staying quiet is there best option there trapped they should just stay out of it and hopefully mina changes
A year ago, everyone was hating on Jimin when she was accused of bullying Mina. One year later, Mina got caught lying and turns out to be a big bully instead. Looks like Hwayoung and Mina can be best friends as both are masters of playing victim of bullying while in fact they are actually the bully!!
I'm so offended with her recent comments about Jimin's s*xlife. Like wtf. How dare you put that out in public? Stealing a boyfriend is bad as it. I really didn't believe her from the get go. Now I'm watching this video again. This is really like T-ARA all over again. So sad for the other AOA members
Honestly me too. When she first mentioned jimin bringing people to the dorms I thought something was soooo weird about her statements. Like what does that have to do with anything. Then she kept brining jimin into her cheating scandal like wtf. I’m glad I kept neutral and just observed the scandal unfold because it’s honestly so shocking
Due to Mina now taking back her previous statements, actual victims of bullying in the kpop industry will go unnoticed and will be called false. Horrible.
I have always believed in Jimin. In July last year, I felt that something was wrong and I started to check the information and found that my intuition was correct. I tried to tell a lot of people that there was a problem with Mina. The thing was not what Mina said, but no one believed me and even someone scolded me. It's hard to hear. Thank you for making this video. My tears starter ti fell . I feel very mad and sorry for Jimin, she didn't deserve this Thank you again
Same... At first I was one of those "Jimin can change" kid. But as Mina kept releasing statements and statements something didn't sit right with me anymore. But since I wasn't an Elvis I couldn't figure it out. That's why I checked a5aforever on instagram. At first they looked like a troll to me because of the Mina clown memes, also people were hating on a5aforever, the hate was kinda creepy so I decided to just leave myself out of it and don't bother speaking about it. And then someone shared this video and finally it all makes sense now!
@@asma523 I am not elvis either. I used to go to Weibo to find information because I am Chinese. Later I also entered the group chat of kakaotalk. The people I follow on weibo put things together in October last year (or maybe not, I don’t remember clearly), but no one has spoken in the rest of the world. Now I see this video and I almost cry with excitement.
@@xuyianhu Why is it that international fans who don't know Korean nor Chinese have to be the ones with the least and weakest sources when they can easily jump into conclusions all the time? T_T
@@xuyianhu Exactly!! They have this "Koreans are toxic and delusional" while they are the most mature and intellectual people in the K-pop world. That's there all the hate on K-netz come from after all
I saw your last post and I really hope you are doing well ... Disregard the hateful comments from Mina's stans, they are being manipulated. Your videos are awesome. Take your time and rest. And please take care of yourself. 😊 Love you 💙
Most of the Mina stans don’t realize that they are getting manipulated. As someone who had a reaaally manipulative friend at one point it’s easy to know that Mina is one. Every time she fucks up and gets criticsized she attempts or posts a sh picture to avoid the responsability and gain sympathy and that’s manipulative behaviour
we need to appreciate k-pop leaders bc of how strong they are if they scold a member for not doing the right thing you would automatically say they are bullying them but if they don't and let them do the wrong thing you would call them a bad leader like make it make sense
Came here after I saw a post about recent issue with Mina and her boyfriend. Someone recommended this. I’m surprised this is actually a good analysis, please don’t delete the video :)
Thank you for making this video... All of what you have said and SHOWN in here, is what some of us ELVIS have talked about for almost a year now. To this day, after all of this happened, Mina has shown ZERO proof of all of what she has said, ZERO, nothing at all. And it's as you said, every time she is confronted, she plays the victim card again. I've been an ELVIS for years, and my sentiment with Mina is difficult, because I too believe what she is going through is real, in her head, I think she has created a whole new reality that suits her victim complex and I think she needs so much help and it's so sad to see how ALONE she is. Every other AoA girl has friends, family, celebrities supporting them. And Mina is always so alone... and there is a reason why. People seem to "support" her but form afar, not one single person has come up and stood up for her or back up her claims, not a single ONE. Not a single celebrity or employee has come up and talked against Jimin, no one. And our theory is that no one wants to com up front and call Mina's bullshit because they know she can actually hurt herself more or go all the way, and no one want's to be responsible of that. So that's why they just ignore her, notice how to this day the ONLY person who keeps talking about this, is Mina herself, the same Mina who "doesn't want to re-live all the painful memories". And I do hope one day Jimin gets a chance to redeem herself, best she has done is just disappear and be quiet, hope she is getting help and taken care of, can't imagine seeing your career and reputation destroyed in just a couple of hours, kpop fans made up their mind. I also wish Mina well as a person, she is clearly so alone and with real mental issues. But at the same time I have feelings against her, I've dealt with situations like this in person, and people need to understanding that having an illness does not extent people form being bad themselves. Mina did not only assassinated Jimin's life, but destroyed AoA and tainted every other member's reputation. To this day, Seolhyun keeps getting so much hate just for being close to Jimin. Same Seolhyun which Mina "loved", same Seolhyun who always supported Mina, and same Seolhyun who is years younger than Mina and is called responsible to what her elder did. Now having revenge on Jimin and apparently Seolhyun (My personal take, she is jealous that SH got everything she wanted, acting, popularity and praised for her beauty). Mina did not only assassinate Jimin's reputation, she also harmed her other members and is still doing it to this day, and once again I'll say it. Without a SINGLE evidence of anything she has said.
I feel sad for chanmi especially because she finally got her glow up and popularity in queendom as she never got it during her career . Eg ) her action scene in sorry , her 2 dance breaks. Her stage with rowoon and king of masked singer. Yuna left aoa quietly without even getting her solos ,hyejeong never got to shine as lead vocalist.
As a longtime AOA fan, I was really heartbroken about this situation. Jimin was my favorite member too. But I’ll admit that I was quick to believe Mina without looking deeper into the situation or trying to see the other side. But your video has turned me into a skeptic now tbh. I don’t wanna take sides since I think we still don’t have the full story (or at least enough of it). But this situation reminds me of a friendship I had that ended because I finally snapped back at them for treating me poorly. They had BPD and they started slandering me afterwards. But it was clear that due to their mental illness, their perception of things that happened was very skewed, so they genuinely believed all the things that they made up. I wouldn’t be surprised if something similar was happening here. But again, I don’t want to be rash and quickly pick sides like i did last time. But I appreciate this video and the evidence that you shared. I’m more open minded to trying to see the situation from another perspective. I’ll say that your video makes it seem like Jimin’s career was ended over pure defamation and I feel bad. But we still don’t really know the situation. Maybe in the future we will get the bigger picture and find out what happened
@@onigrri8790 Yep, I’ve even seen a lot of more of international fans starting to find Mina ver suspicious, and found out some of her problematic actions ever since the Mina’s bf cheating situation. Some of them even hesitates supporting Mina now.
@@onigrri8790 I will give a benefit of the doubt towards some supporters that they might be totally unaware of Mina being problematic. However, there are some supporters who are aware at least somewhat of the situation like the cheating scandal but is being defensive about it by saying "uh it's not of our business", like yeah fair enough, but why even saying this? Mina's new bf's ex is the victim in this situation. Where is that same energy of "none of our business" for the Jimin-Mina bullying allegation when it first started then? Yes the bullying allegation is a lot worse, but both cases involves at least one victim.
She gets into so much drama, everyone else in AOA is moving on without scandals. Mina is the only one creating messy situation. It shows her true character.
Omg I just saw Mina's current situation about the bf she's having a relationship with while still in another relationship. 😱 It is so messy. She even lied about the father of the supposed ex-gf threatening her. If she can lie about that then how credible are her other statements??? I cannot 😭. Make another video please.
She posted an apology video on this topic about sorry she was but it was like only 5 mins then the rest of the video went on saying all this happened because Jimin bullied her, girl literally ruined a relationship, became a homewrecker exposed the gf's name and talk shit about that gf's father and yes all this happened because Jimin bullied her 🙄
I wasn't a fan when the issue started but became one when it blew up, i searched for evidence for the so called bullying and i never found any?? The only thing i found was that they were actually okay and with each other and was friends. It's not easy to act all lovey dovey with someone who you consider bullied you for 11 years + everything mina said in her instagram posts had loop holes which was brought up by korean netizens and backed it up with evidence. I'm glad someone spoke up about this from a 3rd person point of view.
I have bipolar type 1 myself. I have gone on many psychotic breaks, manic/depressive episodes and everywhere in between. I've truly believed certain people were after me, and have said/did many of the things Mina has to Jimin, but to my parents/friends instead. Genuinely unable to process reality. Bipolar episodes don't last forever, and when I come out of them, I feel endless guilt and remorse. I always apologize and clear things up. If she has bipolar, it's unrelated to her desperate desire to have her as the victim and Jimin as the perpetrator. This has been going on for years, episodes usually don't last that long. Her potential bipolar disorder would have nothing to do with the meticulous, diabolical-factor of her lies. Someone manic rambles, she is very consistent with her actions and words. I've seen her kinda do both though, and the way she adamantly denies bipolar disorder is suspicious. I've been stable for 6 years, and the journey is anything but easy. So if she does have it, I still can empathize, but she uses it to her advantage to ignore criticism, so I can only empathize so much. Either way, she most certainly has something. As someone with the condition, I see similar actions. There are few conditions where you slowly, but then suddenly, snap like Mina did. TL;DR I have bipolar 1, but I still think she's a total bitch that needs to stop begging for attention and stop blaming Jimin for her mental health condition. I'm no mental health professional, but the similarities I see are undeniable. Maybe now she'll go into a psychiatric hospital considering how much this must be triggering her. That's what saved my life.
We’re here for you Everglow up! Mina’s Fans say that it’s so bad that their fav got bullied! But they bully everyone! Not just Jimin everyone when the scandal came out i said that idc and I’m not on any sides but KMA’s fans attacked me literally for doin nothin they’re so toxic
I agree with you. I want Mina to be healthy and strong enough to see herself. If she believes herself , she should show her fans about her performance, work (dance cover or cover song). I want her to stop showing her bloody hand to get more fans. Everything what happen in the past can’t be changed . We own our present and future.
exactlyyyy!!! and theyre not her hands (not that i want her hands to be bloody) but to do that... prolly for clout... nah, has to be some kind of messed up thinking.. i hope she makes her recovery her topmost priority rather than having many people kiss her feet
It is more clear now than ever how Mina used threats of unaliving herself to manipulate the audience and public without ever showing proof of bullying. Despite the fact that she claimed to have solid proof at the beginning.
Her manager dropped her off from her father's hospital five minutes away, but she chose not to go. Jimin never told her not to go see her father. I don't understand why she blame Jimin. Apparently it was her own choice.
I mean it could be terrifying to see someone dying especially loved one. Mina actually said that it was scary to see her dad because she knew he was dying. Then, she blamed jimin for this. I mean why? It was her own choice. It could be regrettable thing to do but it was Mina's decision. There is no one to take responsible for this.
@@hyowonlee585 Your last reply is basically it. Maybe Mina regrets not being with her dad in his last moments, and has now made herself to believe that it was other people keeping her from seeing him, instead of her own choice. Because no one really could handle the guilt and regret of choosing not to see your dad in his last moments. Maybe she even actually believes in was Jimin who kept her from seeing him, which is the scary thing. She needs help, and her current therapist is obviously not doing enough. She needs more and better help. Whatever her problem is, it runs deep.
@@cilantroisbetterthanparsley this. she is basically feeling guilty of not seeing her father on his death bed and is not mentally strong to face the reality. jimin might have scolded her for crying in the waiting room of music show but she did not have the authority or say in her meeting her dad( she was given 2 weeks leave by the company and driver dropped her off near the hospital). she connected the two situations and blamed it all on jimin. because it is relieves her of her guilt.
@@medicals.4366 Indeed, that seems logical. I'm not stating that my comment is the absolute truth, of course not. It's just speculation. Thought I'd clarify that
She keep saying she's going to explain everything since forever... It's so suspicious, I feel like it's because she did not get the response she expected from knetz so she will explain AGAIN version 400. Knetz literally don't buy her many many explanations anymore. 🤦♀️
@@cl559 yeah she said that she gonna explain every little details, she better do so 😗 but she will do some times after reflecting herself or maybe she’s trying to buy time to think another excuses and lies 😪 i really wanna see everglow-up having a debate with her and see how mina gonna lie to her. but i can see mina will avoid by saying oh sorry i dont understand english 🙄
I want to clarify something when Jimin's father passed Jimin apologized to Mina for being insensitive to her when her father passed away NOT for bullying her. And in Jimin's final statement which is still on her insta account, she NEVER acknowledges bullying Mina at all. She only apologized for not looking out for her more and that she failed her as a leader but did not say she bullied her. **Edit:** Another messed up thing about Mina that I forgot to mention after Mina ruined Jimin's career she gained a lot of followers, left her company, and started selling her product she claims can cure covid and prevent cancer, the Twitter thread link I put in the description box has the screenshots as proof. This woman is A HOT MESS!!
@@everglowup hey you are really amazing with how you speak and edit videos? Can you also make a video about Jessica Jung and how she got kicked out by her own members and the rumors of the media?
@@sugarqcoat People are giving sympathy and more hate to April cuz her brother's a minor, but that literally makes things easier for Hyunjoo if allegations were false. I feel like she used him to see the reaction of the public. Hyunjoo has gotten much more popular after the accusations.
@@nikhilramkrishnan2018 they both denied bullying her though. They were meaning to say it was hard for all of them and they probably didn’t know how to handle a member who was physically and mentally sick.
Accuse someone without proof, talking about someone having s*x in dorm, bringing a dead person into this situation, Ruined the group. Wow mina has gone too far I'm really glad I'm a natural
I won't invalidate mina's words regarding Jimin. but it's really frustrating how Mina literally ruined seolhyun's and aoa's career just because. in her last live, the reasons why Mina wanted seolhyun to apologize were that sh raised her OWN dog in her OWN (and different from mina's) dorm and that sh gave her an advice about boys Mina didn't like. seolhyun and the remaining members kept hanging out with her after her departure, kept joining her lives and interacting on social media. I think jimin could have been a tough leader, but mina's personality is clearly difficult. I'd say a lot more things but I'm just tired and mentally drained after almost 1 year seeing and discovering new events and stuff that makes me think that there are more than just one victim. maybe all of them were the victims. anyways, I hope she gets better soon
yep was really sad how Seolhyun is heavily affected by the situation. i already knew shit were sketchy when she first claimed to have had a fun time promoting w aoa, only days later to unfollow her and start dragging how Seolhyun won’t speak up for herself when being badmouthed by Jimin. her side of story was inconsistent and that was when i decided to stay neutral.
@@mahdidrake7449 Mina is oversensitive and is triggered by the slightest inconvenience. Also, she clearly has no friends, no support system. That's why she rants on Instagram instead consulating a psychiatrist. I kinda feel bad for Mina. She is in a volatile condition with no support system. But, that doesn't give her the permission to ruin someone's career. Seolhyun was the highest earning in AOA and she used to share her income with everyone in the group. Mina shouldn't forget that.
So far this is the only video that made sense regarding the situation. Other videos are just siding with Mina without even knowing the whole story and truth. All those rude videos don't prove anything. People be like "Oh she has an RBF" when it's their faves but for Jimin she was just being rude. Btw I don't follow AoA.
Mina attempted suicide because her ex boyfriend didn’t reply to her + hate comments on insta. He received a message from her a few hours before she attempted (screenshots uploaded on his insta). And she even said she was losing her mind because of the hate dm’s. Yet people blame jimin and aoa for this??? Wtf? I want mina to get well but people should not be telling jimin to kill herself right now when it wasn’t even about her this time. Jimin has depression and is on medication too.
Yes, maybe jimin was just a strict leader who strive for perfection, just like those dedicated trainer on produce 101 who made many contestants cry. Mina who is bad at singing and lazy afraid from getting reprimanded by Jimin and the other member was not a bystander, they just felt it was a normal thing for jimin as the leader to be angry at her bcs she was lacking and lazy
@@AnnaBrown99 leader strict because of public opinion and demand from label. They're second generation idol, and everything need to be perfect. I'm really glad that after what happen to some idol, public opinion seem to be more open about mental health issues regarding idol. And law about it also change little bit. So, idol now a day can take rest for their mental health problem. Back then, idol can't even express their sick etc. And that why, a lot of second generation idol get sick till fainted on stage. That also happen to Seolhyun aoa, because she the most famous of the group. They're didn't get any salary for few year because need to paid off debt for debut. Mostly income get from Seolhyun cf and acting. I blame this to FNC, or any label out there. They're the reason behind this thing happens. But society only see idol wrong but never blame their label for lack of management and provided good environment.
@@zerolife1690 every fans always blame the label, they blame jyp for mistreating got7 and overwork twice, they blame TS for ruining BAP career, etc people also blame FNC for aoa cases. My point is if the bullying case is not brought to court and mina doesn’t want to take legal action, it’s better to stay neutral… there is 50% probability that mina exaggerate the story
@@AnnaBrown99 they didn't bring it to court because it will not give them any good. The more they publish this issues, the more they ruin their image and income. Because people have 2 sided story, and mostly people blame Jimin and AOA member. I know about blaming label a thing, but they never cancel the label like they did to idol. That what I want to express, label didn't get much shit like idol get from public. They still can survive and produce new group for another day. But, idol will suffer forever. I'm neutral, I know something lack with Mina part because Jimin and other members didn't have chance to tell their story regarding this issues. I'm following this issues because of love I have for Seolhyun. I'm not AOA fan, but I follow Seolhyun career as actress and her reality show. The effects of this thing make me feel bad, because I think Seolhyun didn't deserve the backlash.
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Part 2 is finally up: ruclips.net/video/bFsUm2hI29o/видео.html
Thank you for these videos. To be very honest, I was also swept by emotions and now I feel stupid. Thank for putting do much effort into making these. I hope the rest of the members of AOA are able to get back into the industry.
The only thing that I found about Jessi's "hostility" towards Jimin was a video of them on Unpretty Rapstar and Jessi was basically calling the show out for favouritism when Jimin's team won over someone else. She never went for Jimin's character or anything like that but somehow years later after the clip was released, people are retroactively saying that Jessi was taking a jab at her and "sensed" that she was a bad person from the beginning...
Also before the scandal Jessi and Jimin were actually friend or they did not hate each other bc Jessi followed Jimin on insta
Ikr? I don't ho someone can judge someone by knowing them for just some time and speaking of unpretty rapstar this was a winning show here to win you gotta diss
i don't like it when kpop stans use shows like "unpretty rapstar" to prove a point. like have y'all seen the name of the show 💀😭
That is how majority of kpop fans are. They take moments out of context to push a certain narrative.
@@cocoajames5 hmm I don't understand your comment am sorry, the name is pretty weird but why did you said people shouldn't use 'those' shows to prove something?
The amount of research here is insane(in a good way)! I was on Mina’s side before because I felt sympathy for her because I have went through school bullying but after this video, not anymore. I’m glad you are using your platform to bring awareness of who she really is.
And honestly you should be a detective
And also is Everglow your ult group?? I’m curious
@@hafsamiller1758 YES!! SHE'S INCREDIBLE
U should take care of you💜💙
Same! I sided with Mina at first because I was also bullied, but I just feel so conflicted now after finding out she's just twisting everything to shame Jimin. I can't believe her
I just wish all the AOA girls would speak up about the truth. Being afraid of Mina harming herself is the same as being afraid of breaking up with a boyfriend who threatens with commiting suicide if you do so.
It's NEVER your fault if someone harms themselves, because you rightfully stood up for yourself and wanted to be happy!
@@IceSkull5 ya and i do think they care about her even though they might not like her now but like when you spend almost 9/10 years of your life with certain people you are bound to care about them
Thank you!! I legit make that comparison all the time.
Lovely Panda it sounds like emotional blackmail
@@nehadeshpande573 I feel so bad specially for Seolhyun..
I know... but we all saw what happened with that nurse... I bet even Allkpop and Soompi won't dare to post contents similar to Mina lying or else I remember Allkpop did this to P1Harmony's Keeho's scandal. Even tho the proofs weren't released by the company someone still posted the proofs.
I specifically want to point out to that "hair salon" part. You're right. As someone who's always in control of short-tempered strict and manipulative parents who constantly use emotional abuse, that's correct. When you're afraid of someone, the last thing you would want to do is anger them on purpose. You're supposed to be seen like walking on egg shells and be careful at every one of their movements. No one who's scared of someone tries to go against them or have courage to do that on purpose. What Mina did didn't make sense to me, personally. She was trying to anger Jimin and her members on purpose and twist the ACTUAL situation and use it for her own defense and benefit. This entire case is such a mess oh god.
That was unprofessional of her. She is old enough to understand she works in team bruh
but then again sometimes they have enough and snap and try to do stuff to anger them (i’m talking about myself, then again not everyone is like this) but no way am i saying mina wasn’t playing the victim cause she honestly is
@@NanHoumSian yeah
She think that being and working as a kpop idol is easy
No it's not Mina , being an idol (kpop , pop , jpop , or any other pop genre based group or solo) is not easy .
THIS IS T-ARA SCANDAL ALL OVER AGAIN IN A MUCH BIGGET SCALE
In one of her recent lives, she spoke about the worse thing Seolhyun did and her answer was about how Seolhyun’s dog pooped himself in the dorm when she brought him over and it smelled. Like.. they don’t even live in the same dorm. They have 2 dorms, Mina shared a dorm with Hyejeong and Jimin while Seolhyun shared a dorm with Yuna, Choa and Chanmi. Seolhyun got her dog in the end of 2016 and she moved out in 2017 to live with her sister after Choa left the group. She said she wanted an apology from Seolhyun for this. The fact that this is the worse thing she can think of makes me 😭😭
Are we also going to ignore the amount of celebrities that are still supporting Seolhyun? So many celebrities are still liking her photo and Taeyeon even commented on her Instagram when she returned. Even Peniel, who is Mina’s close friend, is still liking every single one of Seolhyun’s recent photos and he hasn’t even liked any of mina’s recent ones. Let’s all wait until the whole truth out before we all send hate.
expected to see you here finally in an objective comment section
@@carlosdcovers8425 It feels so weird to see nice comments about AOA...? Like it’s crazy honestly. I feel like most people didn’t know about most of these small details, they just see clickbait titles from allkpop, soompi (etc) or watch lying ass RUclips videos or edited “bullying” videos out of context.
thank u so much for be logical omg
bruh imagine getting mad at your friend because their dog took a shit in the dorm 🤡
She's literally talking about the members Sex Life without thier consent now! She's literally getting annoying and sus asf
@@onigrri8790 wait what-? 😭😭😭
@@ihrtjupiter yes she has STD and she blame it on jimin
@@bruneena9102 even she blamed her cheating on jimin idk this gurl is not making any sense at all
@@onigrri8790 and what's more annoying is the fact that she says now she has cervical dysplasia and before she had cervical cancer because of guess what? JIMIN. She blamed Jimin for her HPV when clearly it is a type of STD. Like damn the lies
Next Mina will be like Jimin caused my Terminal Brain cancer that came when I was 3 years old. 😞
So whole time she was that person in a group project who did the bare minimum then was shocked when the leader of the group calls her out so she goes and plays victim 💀
Basically
Honestly from this perspective yes💀
💀fr, THREE VOCAL LESSONS AND YOU DON'T EXPECT SOMEONE TO SAY YOUR VOCALS ARE WEAK??🤚
She’s ryu hwayoung 2.0 basically🤷♀️
this goes the same for T-Ara
Imagine being this right this early in the game
I hope you’re doing okay Everglow-Up. I hate how people are actually trying to blame Mina’s suicide attempt on this video and even on you.
Those people are stupid. When did she even learn english?
A koreans note about the incident
Korean here. Here is the list of lies regarding aoa that have been exposed so far.
✔️Mina said she couldn’t see her father pass because of jimin ➡️ lies. Later in insta live she said her manager took her there but she was busy reading her script (she was acting for a drama then) + was too scared to go. Most recently her texts with the boyfriend revealed she actually did go see her father pass.
✔️She said that only jimin missed work when jimin’s dad died ➡️ lies. Schedule confirms that Mina’s schedule was cleared, 27 out of 33 schedules.
✔️She said that chanmi and seolhyun said they don’t care what happens, or do what about the good times etc. after the scandal ➡️ later in her kakao it turns out that those words were said during Te contract renewal period, NOT after the jimin scandal.
✔️ mina said jimin yelled at her for not practicing her vocals ➡️ Mina herself said she only had vocal lessons 3 times her whole life
✔️She hurt herself and took sleeping pills because she was afraid jimin would yell at her ➡️ the reason? Few days before the comeback mina suddenly got hairline surgery (cosmetic) without letting others know and missed dance practices during a crucial time for comeback. This affected the group and of course jimin, the leader was mad. But mina blames it on jimin for being angry rather than reflecting on her behavior.
✔️Seolhyun’s name was mentioned along with jimin? ➡️ after all the stories Mina told about jimin, the only “story” she was able to tell about seolhyun was that one time seolhyun brought her dog to the dorm without notice and the dog pooped.
✔️Aoa is a bystander bully group? ➡️ at first Mina said she got along with everyone except jimin. Then she started calling them bystanders. Months later she said they would drink with her and listen to her & talk about jimin with her. Then recently she said she was never bullied and that she was happy during her AOA times.
✔️Mina is a victim of aoa’s bullying incident? ➡️ aoa would send mina coffee cart when she would act for her drama. Mina said seolhyun is like a younger sister she cares for and that hyejeong is her best friend. She said seolhyun listens to her problems a lot. Mina herself was rude to chanmi during trainee days just because Chanmi didn’t eat a lot. Even around the time of her leaving the group, Mina went to an amusement park with seolhyun and even a week before she exposed jimin, she went on a trip with hyejeong. Aoa continued to contact her and cheer her on through sns. And yet people say it’s a bully group and mina was bullied for 10 years. Please wake up people.
✔️Mina cut herself because of AOA? ➡️ the pictures she posted with her cutting herself when she exposed jimin was actually from a month before when she was stressed about the contract money issues. This was revealed later. She also cut herself because of a cosmetic company, because of the nurse incident, because she said she can’t trust any friends near her.. etc. this has been a pattern. Just because someone cuts themselves doesn’t mean everything they say about another person is true. People need to learn more about personality disorders….
fnc, jimin, seolhyun won't say anything cause they afraid mina might self harm. but mina will say anything to make jimin and seolhyun end themselves
Yeah I also believe that the only reason they stayed silent because she might attempt sucide again so that's why they all stayed silent
she just said on her ig live yesterday that she promised she won't take her life again but at this point I'm even doubting her promises 💀
@@AngelaChan97 yeah exactly she has lied about everything else lol, she even promised to stop using sns a few days ago but heeere we are today and she's still using it to slander people 🤦♀️
@@AngelaChan97 people who said they want to take their lives mostly don't actually k*ll themselves. I honestly doubt on what she said 💀
Yeah cause staying silent is better if they speak mina may harm herself and jimin will have all the blame so it would be a lose lose so staying quiet is good
When this first started i 100% sided with mina, but i didn't really hate jimin, i just accepted that she was factually a terrible person and moved on. However, the moment i saw everyone throwing so much hate at jimin and exploiting the situation to get clout, i immediately suspected something like this would happen lmao. This is why y'all shouldn't rush to make those videos that are like "x idol being rude and a bully", they tend to age like milk.
Omg same. I sided with Mina but never hating on Jimin ( probably just going around saying how horrible person she is ) but come to think of what Mina's doing/updates lately, i watch and read Mina's "evidences" i start to have second thoughts. What if Mina lied to everyone? What if she's playing victim? Goddamn. This case couldn't be even more confusing.
I never believe what mina said! Poor jimin...
OMG YOU SPILLED AGREED
I feel like a clown believing all those video they are literally edited
Just like how blackpink haters made videos against Jennie being a "bully" and bullying the pinks while in reality she was just having fun and roasting them
This is all just manipulation and all I can't believe people fall for all THIS
@@absolutelynotellen She lied 😐
Something else I just realized is that a lot of companies would blame the leaders for a mistake, even if they themselves weren’t the one to make it. Such as a dancing mistake: it would be taken to the leader and the leader of the group would get scolded or get a punishment. This was talked about on a show showing the dark sides of Kpop (I don’t remember which group it was, but I do remember it was a female group) and it openly showed this on camera as well. Jimin was most likely not a bully, but strict and “bossy” because Mina would not take her job seriously and wouldn’t show up to practice or rehearsals and barely practiced singing. Jimin most likely got the blame when it was Mina’s fault. Plus, Mina is very sensitive and uses the minor inconvenience to make a fuss out of it, which she most likely used Jimin’s “leader” and “strict” role and personality and took it as “bullying.”
After watching kdrama "Imitation" i really believe this is happening. In the drama, whenever some member did something bad, the leader or the manager will be scolded by the staff. Not that particular member. If i'm being scolded for things i didn't do i will be extremely mad too
@@パンタ寺 it's like when a kid did some trouble they call on the parents instead
It's like 👍 is so dumb lol 😆 it's not gonna funny 😆 it's not even funny 😆 I'm so tired 🥱 crying 😭 lol 😆
It's like 👍 is so dumb lol 😆 it's not gonna funny 😆 it's not even funny 😆 I'm so tired 🥱 crying 😭 lol 😆 k
@@ashsmoke4330 hope you got sober man :)
Moral of the story: *ALWAYS STAY NEUTRAL NO MATTER WHAT*
Edit: some conversations between jimin and mina were leaked by dispatch, and now people are suspecting that jimin might be also a victim (watch the recent drama updates to understand) this really shows how 'staying neutral' is the best decision when it comes to these scandals.
EXACTLY
YES
THIS. I always stays neutral, it’s safer bcoz at the end we are not there.
Exactly.
yes!! unless there is actual solid proof, stay neutral and listen to both sides
Jessi hates jimin is dumb
It's a rapper competition
They hate everyone, they diss everyone
and it is MNET survival show 😭😭👍🏻
Exactly I don't like jessi but she don't know about everything she's just been shady on every person she thinks are not good enough
So true
@@misimatokastanley
That's how all rappers in the show are like. All shady
Jessi is a kind hearted person, she went through a lot in her life and she's just true to herself so please don't say shit about her thank you!!
I remember everyone was like "I hate hearing Jimin's voice, she sounds like a dying cat" ....Mina went to like 2.5 vocal lessons... And you are calling Jimin terrible?
jimin's voice is annoying and mina's voice is meh thats why she has the least lines
plus, jimin's voice is one of the most recognizable rap tones in kpop..? like i know its her just by hearing one word. also people prefer another boring deep voice monotone rapper than someone with a unique voice, people are weird
honestly shes one of my favourite rappers i rlly like her voice
Even when I supported mina i was wondering why the same people saying that liked rappers with similar tone voices like soyeon
@misschanandlerbong1621 funny that nobody makes that kind of comment when it comes to male rappers. Annoying and ☢️ is REALLY YOU, you boygroup stan! 🤡🙄😒🤮🤦♀️💢
I was always sceptical from the start. After T-ARA I learnt that everybody should take a backseat when it comes to accusations and wait it out. I'm so sorry for Jimin and the rest of AoA. Clearly, Mina is a masterful manipulator who has some deeply held misogynistic values and has held a deep, deep grudge against her ex-colleagues. I feel so bad for AoA, I hope Jimin sues her for defamation, threats, and sexual assault. I hope the rest of the girls can gain back some public support and I support them in whatever they decide to do, either staying in retirement or coming back into showbiz.
Might as well as getting lifetime compensation bcs jimin most likely not be able to return to the industry. But knowing mina, she didnt even have a proper job 🙄 where would she get the money lol she even had the audacity to say that she will return to the industry lolll like who wants you, you only hv pretty face but not a single talent or brain
The difference between T-ARA / Hwayoung and AOA / MINA is that AOA career as a group is already over meanwhile in T-ARA they have a little chance. Mina destroy the group when the only to blame was the agency or jimin but not drag everyone else
@@lauraxiu930 exactly! No talent whatsover, skills can be acquired tho but I don't think it's gonna work for her because hardwork, practice, dedication, determination ain't seem like her strong points.
@@emotionaldamage9894 fr and imagine if she started acting in a drama then another few months she will dragged down some other celebrities in her instagram 🤡🤡🤡
@@bryantdejesusmarin2834 It does seem to be that way, unless if Jimin, and the rest of AOA members can explain their sides of the story about Mina.
The things that had me sick is that the amount of hate jimin got. people hating on her because of her bully scandal. Claiming that they hate a bully but what they did to Jimin isn't different. Make fun of her look because she lost too much weight due to ED. Make fun of her voice and literally called her a monster because she look too skinny.
people on ig praise mina's looks everytime she shows her face even when she is coming to apologize for her actions. a lot of people simply hated jimin quickly because they found her ugly compared to angelic looking mina.
Dont forget they constantly called her Samuel to mock her looks
For anyone pitying Jimin. Gosh, you are all horrible. Bullies must receive death penalty if I am to decide. It is not easy to fOrGivE, foRgEt, and LeArN at all after being psychologically abused. The bullying does not only affect a part of someone's life but it affects a person's lifetime. And the damage does not heal with a simple forgiving because that is so unfair. Imagine your bully having fun bullying you, and still in the future she is happy and successful. While the bullied one suffered and continues to suffer throughout his or her life.
@@kimberlychu441 Sis- WHAT PROOF do you have that she is a bully? The word of someone that keeps lying????? Gtfo.
I may hate a person, but to the point i harassed them this way? Hell no. These people are absolutely no better than bullies themselves.
not @ mina only taking 3 vocal lessons, no wonder they didn't trust her with more lines in their songs
Mina takes only 3 vocal lessons during her 6-7 years in AOA. Wonders why leader Jimin is critical of her and views her as lazy. Also wonders why Jimin views ultra hardworking Seolhyun favorably.
She's the one person in the group work who did the bare minimum, but surprised when somebody starts to call her out 💀💀
Fr her vocal is really weak 😭 she cant even sing 😭 i gotta admit that she and chanmi were the members that cant sing in the group at first but chanmi improved so much. chanmi is really hardworking, keeps on attending vocal class and during bingle bangle era you can see her improvement and come see me??? that shit was dope and in queendom you can compared her vocal to before. see, there’s difference between someone who is lazy and hardworking.
@@henrydylan6652 Yes Chanmi has always been a hard worker ):
for people who are saying it's hard to prove bullying infront of police: police will question each one of them individually, police will take statements from staffs and managers, make up artists and people whom they have worked with.police will have access to things in fnc that no one else has. police can also cross check things about jimin's dad funeral etc. mina supporters siding with her over her decision of denying police investigation just tell me they themselves are not confident of her statements and do not want to be proven wrong in the court of law.
Please, as soon as the renewal fees is brought up. Mina should try to save her own ass first
And police can't be corrupted 🤡
@@eri6984 cute excuse
@@eri6984 Imagine if we said that with the George Floyd case. Imagine if his family and friends didn’t fight for him because the system can be corrupt. If you want justice and peace with mind you try and try and try until you get justice whether or not the system is for or against you.
@@user-dd8bh2ou3u Korean police is corrupted af.
Mina got a nurse fired from her job. Ppl need to see Mina for what she is to avoid any more poor ppl from losing their job and livelihood
How’d she do that?
Seriously, what Mina did is getting out of hand. This is one of the reasons why people refuse to speak up against her. She's insane.
can we collectively start an apologize to aoa? a 10yo group made by endless efforts shouldn't end like this. a group composed of members who have their own career and individual life as well. damn, that girl really tried to ruin it
no, those who still believe jimin bullied mina still blindly accept whatever bullshit is mina saying. i bet they’re not even elvis and they dont even know who is aoa before this. they just joined in the bandwagon and sending hate to jimin and aoa. unless the media like koreaboo, allkpop published about mina’s lies officially WITH EVIDENCES then people will start apologise to them. this is really sad to see a group who hv so many potential and worked so hard climbing up for these past 10 years get destroyed just with a lie
Why is she denying the police investigation? If she’s not lying, wouldn’t the police investigation further verify that Jimin is actually a bully?
@Siddhi Kadam yeahh
@Nessie Stone yeah, I agree. However I don’t think that the root of Mina’s mental health declining is Jimin. It all seems complicated to fans rn, there’s not really enough information to make any assumptions yet. Hopefully this gets resolved soon and all the members of AOA (especially those in the bullying rumors) get some peace of mind finally.
The most likely answer is that she already accomplished her goal, the character assassination of Jimin and the fact that she lied and exaggerated the truth.
@Nessie Stone yeah maybe she’s going through something even before AOA and she’s just taking her frustration out on Jimin…which isn’t bad it’s okay to get it all out cause it’s unhealthy to keep it bottled in but it isn’t good to take your anger and pain out on someone else. And on the other hand if you’re going through pain that’s run even farther than the idol group you’re in then you should talk it out with your group members rely on them and let them rely on you, that’s what being a team is about trusting your band mates to listen, care for you, and not let you down and in turn you do the same for them…..which she isn’t doing because from this video Mina seems like a very unreliable person to work with-it’s honestly a wonder how Jimin dealt with that for 7 years. Also I don’t even think Jimin yelling at her was bullying, maybe being insensitive without Jimin realizing it, but I fully believe that it’s Jimin giving her strict constructive criticism which if you’re going to be a performer you have to learn how to deal with criticism-and I understand not getting it immediately because I’m still learning to deal with handling it myself, but then there’s Mina who prolly has barely made an effort to deal with it-I swear if I was Jimin I would not have dealt with Mina’s bullshit, in fact it seems Jimin started getting tired of dealing with Mina’s bs as well which is prolly another reason why she yelled at her, I mean dealing with it for 7 years plus training as well Jimin’s bound to crack eventually I’m just surprised it took this long for her to
@Nessie Stone just adding, just saying. Im not invalidating what mina gone through. She is pitiful, yes, but doesn't mean she did no wrongdoing
About 'NOBODY is doing anything to help her'
Are we sure?? I've encountered, befriend and a close one at that, a unique person like this:
my other bff bring her food, listen to her, help all her college assignment, give support to her family issue. It is either im in front of them seeing and listening to it or im in it join placating her. And she, this unique person actually still dare to say in front of our face as she tell her story that NOBODY help her, nobody support her. Oh not forgeting when the other friends who finally give her 'im done with you', she said to her that she want to suicide because of her, blame her, etc. Wtf right.
Please everyone remember that
1. there is, out there, a person, an individual who would say 'im so hungry no one give me food, no one care for me' as you sit beside them and bring them a kfc.
2. For someone to help, the person itself must want to get helped. Don't even try helping someone who won't helping themself
I lost all the respect for her when she talked about Jimin 's sex life .... I mean WTH girl !!! So what if she brings men ... it's her life her choice ... Who are you to leak someone else's personal life's information ?
It’s all a mess
Mina needs therapy
Off instagram and just chill
Idol life isn’t for everyone
"idol life isn't for everyone" preach!
indeed.. she keept insisting to stay but after 5 minutes she is back with gore pics and angry captions again.. she is not healthy and I believe more people will be affected since she has influence.. at the end people who get involved become unhealthy too
@@taeyongsarang agreed
i agree but can we please stop with the "idol life isnt for everyone" schtick, since its quite toxic and downplays the very valid reason why idols like mina felt this way.
It doesn't bring any fruitful conversation, just victim blaming
@@siej8233 but it is true.. just like military life. It is not for everyone. Bitter pill need to be swallowed sorry..
By the early days of AOA, they were barely surviving and not even earning as a group but thanks to seolhyun (the girl who's being hated for foolish and shallow reasons) was able to climb up the popularity. They were able to promote much better with gained audience from seolhyun's impact. And Jimin being the leader in that group. Mina with her lacking efforts as she said that she only took 3 vocal lessons and even missing dance practice. I think jimin did treated mina not that great but does that mean bullying? If a person doesn't treat you better than what you want, would you consider it bullying already? I have a friend who I have found out that he kinda hated me. Because of my certain actions. In our circle of friends, sometimes he would say something and act bad about me. But as I realised it was because of the series actions that are not good that I made. But I did not consider it bullying, because every person is different. You cannot just claim anyone who treats you bad a bully. Sometimes the things that we get hated at are the things that we unconsciously do that makes other people hate us.
I agree with you . Especially the last part . It makes sense
Finally, I can find someone said this. I think this is the exact things happened on Hyunjoo case too
The last part! I completely agree!
I think everyone know this but people love to find a reason to hate her it's so sad :/ i wish this video blows up already god
Agreed. There's actually one time i genuinely asking and confronting the person who keep mocking/'bullying' me for no reasons, but the next days, they couldn't get even mock/'bully' me ( hell, they even told me to kms in a "joking" way but still ) even moreーwhich also the reason why i had s*icidal thoughts until today and afraid of coming out with all of these stories for getting a professional help. What if i'm just playing victim? or i just feel like i'm the only one who is unable to take a "joke" or i should say, i'm being too sensitive? I'm not ready for that conversations yet i just want to get this out of me.
I think people forget that in kpop groups the leaders take responsibility for the member's actions, so if a member acts out the company scolds the leader, this adds stress to the leader especially if the members keep acting out and the leader keeps getting the punishment.
She wasnt even a good leader
@@yvxiiao we don't know that
Off topic, that could be happening in April right now. That whole case is sus.
@@yimdiw6236 she sleep with a man on they dorm
@@lulu_Lm And tbh, April's case sounds so similar to T Ara's case tbh
it seems like people didn’t learn nothing from the t-ara scandal…
the generation is different u know.. people in t-ara times are already parents and quit to know bout kpop scandal.. now, their children took the baton..
Yeah
@@nhadzirahelhani408 well tara and aoa are both 2nd gen
@Shut Up Your Breath Stinks It was a bullying scandal, one member claimed she was bullied by the group, and the group got so much hate for it for years, it literally destroyed the group and the member's career. It turned out that the allegations were false, that the member lied and was actually the one being the bully, refusing to practice and having a bad attitude in general. You should check the video of their first win since the bullying, that happened 5 years after the allegations came out, the girls are crying the entire time, it really showed how this scandal impacted them in general (their career, having no wins / support for the public for 5 years, but also mentally). It's heartbreaking : ruclips.net/video/3-iLRWHQN_M/видео.html&ab_channel=Jiyeonista
@Shut Up Your Breath Stinks It is awful, it really shows that people should be more careful when it comes to bullying allegation. Obviously, you should always trust the victim, but with a grain of salt. And even if the allegations are true, not sending hate to the bully / entire group for what one of several members did.
After she got hates for exposing jimin’s sex life recently during her instagram live, mina said she will stay silent and reflect on her wrongdoings, the day after that her friend tagged her in an ig story where they both were seen to be hanged out together at busan. This girl didnt feel any guilty at all. She just backed off for a moment bcs people are starting to aware how ridiculous she is
must feel good to enjoy your life after destroying others life meanwhile the other party cant even hv their normal life and career back
You should make part 2 since she has been caught in more lies since then. We have the nurse incident, fake wrist photo, several celebrities unfollowing Mina on IG while still following the AOA members, Mina's claim that she got a STD from stress, and the cheating incident where she stole someones boyfriend knowing that he already had a girlfriend.
I also forgot to mention her totally insane claim that a shaman was able to exorcise 4 evil spirits from her body and now shes all better and ready to return to the entertainment industry (aka, shes out of money and needs to scam another agency for money).
And she accuse ex gf father for threating her and its a lie, ex gf father even don't contact mina
@@chimmyjr6983 cmiiw it's ex gf father not ex bf father 🙏
@@happyjoy8278 omg 😆 sorry its typo
@@chimmyjr6983 it's okay 🤗
Thanks god, I'm not the only one. I'm litterally scared of Mina because she doesn't look like she is afraid to hurt herself. The fact that she chose to destroy Jimin right after her father passed is very insensitive. Even if Jimin did bully her, I would feel bad for Jimin's family if I were in her shoes.
jimin deserves it
@@nooneimportant1504 watch the video before saying stupid shit like that
yes have pity for the bully 😍
@@ashleyd9910 you don’t have to like jimin to see the holes in minas story..
@@user-dd8bh2ou3u yall dont know shit
She didn't say mina isn't allowed to cry, she said why is she crying in a professional setting if she was excused from activity. Mina could have just gone home but she didn't she stayed there and cryed.
Exactly.
I think we all want that police investigation. One can only speculate why Mina wouldn't want to do it...
I really do want it.
I don't want it... I NEED it!! Istg I'm just getting more and more confused at Mina
Mina didn't want do it, she don't have any prove and witness for her claim. But I'm curious, why she didn't use her medical report card. She said she been eating pill since few year already. I don't think, hospital or clinic didn't record it. I really want know about this real story. From my knowledge, to consume mental illness medicine need doctor reference. Illegal pill are banned in SK. I'm confused. I need listen from both side.
@@zerolife1690 Weird thing she said she has proof
Or maybe she choose not to do it since she doesn't have the heart to "jail" someone? But the problem is, she is a public figure/celebrity. People expecting her to do and share that police investigation after the whole bullying scandal, but she thought/claim theyーthe peopleーare "attacking" her so she can't deal with it and decided to go "venting" on her instagram instead...
I'm sorry if this don't making any sense i hope you understand though since english isn't my first language.
This is how mina reacts when she was attacked for calling out chanmi and seolhyun. Fyi, chanmi has been battling depression since 2014 and ran away from dorm and jimin was looking for her and even running at the han river and comforted her. This also the reason chanmi’s mom moved near their dorm. Also, mina called chanmi’s face a bat when she didnt eat much bcs of the depression and she said she hated her for being skinny. seolhyun has been working too hard till she passed out on the stage:
Seven years of bullying? Depression? Literally a circus. She wouldn’t have been able to talk about it on broadcast if she were really scared and vulnerable. When have I ever talked about Shin Jimin on TV? You say I’m the one who started the pity party by hurting myself? Speak only after you’ve experienced 10 years (of torture).
Unconsciousness? I’ve dealt with that way more. I still faint from the stress and depression, so my entire body is covered in bruises. And what, they comforted me? Do you think they were sincere? Even after reading everything I wrote? If only they didn’t comfort me, I would not have gotten my hopes up. Why didn’t they release statements?
So technically she’s been saying that chanmi’s depression is a joke and she suffered way more than seolhyun 🙄 gurl you didnt even attend your vocal class and dance practice. seolhyun is packed with cfs, modelling, dramas and still tried to give her time for aoa even just for a while but you?? chanmi’s depression is a circus for you bcs she talked about it on tv? oh how about you that keeps on posting triggering pics and even some from google and some of your old photos to seek attention from people? the only circus here is you
Her shoelaces could become untied and it would be Jimin’s fault
I shouldn't be laughing but this is so true-
"an unnie threatened me and told me to keep my laces untied so that i can trip on stage and so that i would get hate or else she would bully me blah blah blah"
I'm not supposed to laugh but this is just-
LMAOOO
she could drop her ice cream and will blame it on jimin
#apologizetojiminAoA
Wow, Can we just talk about the fact that Jimin's father passed away and then Mina decided to come along and make her life even worse?
And don't forget how she said that Jimin's father died dramatically. Like....gurl....How could you say something like that 💆💆
@@happyjoy8278 exactly when her own father passed away too 🤦🏽♀️
And the fact that people expected Jimin to defend herself from bullshit right after losing her father
Mina admitted today that the other members (excluding Jimin) did not bully her. 1 year ago, she called the other members bystanders, claimed they were no different then Jimin, and even implied that Seolhyun and Chanmi were also bullies. She got the public to turn against them. Now she admits they didn't bully her and is blaming the media for twisting her words (typical, its always someone elses fault). I'm sorry but why didn't you publicly tell the media that the other members were innocent 1 year ago? Why now after completely destroying AOA and the other members careers are you admitting that you lied? If you read her new post, shes still trying to frame herself as the victim in all of this. She is pure evil.
Genuine asking, where did you heard about this?
She's demon
@@onigrri8790 Please throw off the link or links to the site.
Is this when she replied to her IG comment after the live IG?
She is getting karma
I knew Mina was sus from the beginning, but I was scared to talk about it because everyone believed Mina and didn’t give Jimin a chance to explain herself
well yeah the haters is, was and always scary tho. The never think before they typing.
@@happyjoy8278 globalmyeon’s tweet about it says “it allegedly isn’t her picture” how is that proof ?? do you not know what allegedly means
@@cheri7 There is a proof that the photo is been upload before mina. We don't know if it's really hers or not. But that's means what she posted was not an event that happened at that time right?
Good thing you were sus because that shows you are smart. Good intuition!
I completely agree with you. I thought from day one that Mina was suspicious.
This brought a lot of evidence to the table that most wouldn’t care enough to look at and it’s actually sad. Once twitter pins someone as a bully, it spreads to other social media platforms and then they’re a “bully” forever.
Hey mulfand!
Mina said in a program: she said "I hated Chanmi for 7 years because she ate very little, but she also called Mina Chanmi a bully. Mina who hates Chanmi for some ridiculous reason, but the bully Chanmi? It's so silly. Mina needs a good treatment. And please Mina's fans stop sending disgusting messages. We're tired of getting death messages.
@@onigrri8790 Misleading video clips do not count as evidence. If we look at him, there are many videos of Jimin that he is not a bully. Even in the videos Mina and Jimin secretly posted, they laugh at each other, they are close.
whose side are you on right now?
@@onigrri8790 just like you said. Mina has now started attacking other members as well. We should write nice messages to the members and Jimin. :)
@@fakirebrar1369 burada bi türk görmek o kadar mutlu etti ki anlatamam. 🤧💕
@@moonie9744 Ah beni de ^^
they have scripts on programs.. you can't watch a program and say they actually say what they think cuz they simply don't its obvious
i thought mina was innocent.. but after seeing how she got into a relationship with a guy who was publicly dating someone else.. i decided to search for a video like this
Same
Same but I looked because I noticed her posts were kind of weird on Instagram…. If she was going through stuff she should have stayed off of social media
@@lunarialoonatic i thought so as well but a mentally unstable person may not be sane enough to realise that.
I kinda regreted defending her. All of the situations that going on now, made me refuse to believe if she is actually the "victim". It feels like she 'forced' to make everybody siding with her without giving a chance to listening to the other AOA members side of the story.
@@lunarialoonatic people go through stuff differently so her sharing it doesn’t invalidate it or make It “fake”
Also no I am not on anyone’s side but just pointing that out. Yes I did hear about her fake wrist pics so I am now just staying neutral
I also think you should have mentioned how she blamed seolhyun as bystander in her suicide note and went on live few weeks ago and said seolhyun should apologize to her because she raised a puppy in the dorm which btw she wasn't even sharing with seolhyun. she lived in a different apartment than seolhyun who was living with choa,chanmi and yuna. why does seolhyun need to apologize for raising a puppy to mina? she can not come up about a single instance of seolhyun bullying her so she starts blaming her puppy.
she dragged Seolhyun into this mess to gain more clout. now Seolhyun is just getting as much hate for being close friend w jimin and labelled as bystander.
speaking of the live, may i know which ig live was it? (possibly with timestamps)
which livestream are you refering to by the way? I just want to know, because I don't want to believe every rumours about someone without proofs, even if many people talk about it. if that's true, then big yikes to Mina, and that makes me doubt her statements even more.
I feel so bad for seolhyun
@@bboombayah4662 this.. ruclips.net/video/0pukq3E6N1w/видео.html no one post hard subbed English video.. but someone posted the link on Pann before then summarized the live. After this live, she had another live at night before she went to sleep. Both has parts explain similar things
And how some woke outsider blaming all aoa members for being a bystander 😭
Not Mina herself proving you right. That girl is terrible and crazy and at this point I feel so bad for all the AOA members including Jimin for ever having to deal with a member like her.
@@IceSkull5 she deserves to be called more than just crazy, a crazy bitch she literally ruined AOA's lives
@@IceSkull5 believe me that i get you too. its just ruining someone's life online who always tried to make her better is just crazy
Can you please inform me Whats happening? I'm unaware
@@velvetiny7307 uhm i recommend you watch the video before commenting, she explained it all
@@user-nb3ct9fw3m I mean the recent things which are happening, this was uploaded two months ago and i know the bullying thing
Now people shouldn't send hate to mina either. And apologize to Jimin too. To be fair who ever send Jimin hate did it on their own expanse, so mina shouldn't be their excuse. Everyone got a brain of theirs.
Exactly ...
Thank you so much for this❤️
@@mybabyshinjimin6483 it makes me so happy that you guys are agreeing. There are still people who has sympathy towards others.
@@elsasnow6224 of course! I don’t like what Mina did but that doesn’t mean I don’t like her. I really want her to get better and be able to have a full recovery. I’m just really happy that you finally said it m❤️
This was the comment I was looking for. Although I regret hating Jimin that doesn't mean I hate Mina now. Im just hoping that Mina recovers well and I'm hoping for the best for both of them
Seriously at this point? Last year when this blew up. A lot of fans even elvis's that I know from twitter or insta encouraged her to bring this up to the police so that it will be investigated the right way. But mina insisted, a statement from her IG post that she would just keep on bringing back her painful days in AOA if that happens but girl its almost a year already and were still running in circles. And btw she's claiming she has evidences of it all, but does not want to show it seriously???. Just get this to legal action so that it would be over. The contents she posts in insta are not healthy!!! Coming from someone who has experienced depression and behaviour difficulty. It affects my emotional state as some point, how much more to those who are dealing with something. At some point I'm so tired commenting support in her insta post. Her insta is flooded with support always!!! But all she notices are the hate ones. You're not helping yourself 😔. I'm getting so disappointed! Please tell me my thinking is wrong 😔
To this day, I don't think Jimin is completely blameless. But since this whole issue started I just had problems with Mina. It's like she went crazy and kept doing things to garner people's sympathy and attention, even at the extent of leaving misunderstandings unsolved just so she could get herself carried away emotionally. It's like she didn't want to make everything better, she wanted everyone to burn down along with her.
Tbh I think jimin must have been a tough leader but had to basically care for the members make sure everybody did what they needed to do
@@Simba.26 Maybe. Also, takes two to tango so Mina's prior behaviors probably made Jimin disatisfied since it's the leader that bears the brunt of the management's comments and corrections and that's why she can't stop the emotion from her eyes when she looks at her. It reminds me of ryu sera from nine muses who was scolded by staf for not managing a member well who I think didn't dance well or kept being late. Later she was removed from the leader position even when she was still in the group.
@@andreahl3494 mina said she went to get hairline surgery before dance practice but she would have need 2 -3 week recovery time. So why she would do that before AOA practice for their comeback makes no sense. And she had to know that would pissed anybody off. That's something to do on ur off time. And leaders really have it hard because if members mess up it is still their responsibility.
@@Simba.26 Exactly. It's a bit annoying how she keeps selfishly seeing herself as a VICTIM when her own behavious also added to the issue. She needs to grow up because the world does not cater to just her whims. People can't always baby her because they too need to be strict on their own selves and the people they're managing to get things done.
@@andreahl3494 I seems like she only understood her pain while not seeing how the other girls had it hard too. Being a idol isn't easy and it seems like she wasn't pulling her weight in the group. Most kpop groups I know the members ALWAYS thanks the leader because they have a hard time, usually young adults trying to take care of each other. Sometimes have to make sure their members goes to school, dance practice and etc.People said she might have been jealous that AOA got bigger after she left, and the members were doing pretty good at that time. Kingdom 2019 did show AOA talent
All those who witch hunted Jimin and AOA should be ashamed of themselves and try to make amends by supporting the AOA members from now on. At least leave some kind and supportive comments on their social media - that's the least you could do
I feel so bad for Seolhyun like literally she shared her income with them, but all her acting gigs got canceled.
Exactly
@@emotionaldamage9894 woah- really?
@@jenebatrawallysidibeh8938 yes!
I feel bad I had the whole mina is the victim without looking deeper but now I understand
What frustrates me is that despite the evidence PEOPLE R STILL IN DENIAL BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA ADMIT THEY WERE FOOLED BY MINA i mean who wants to feel like an idiot right? LIKE JUST ADMIT IT MINA WAS A MANIPULATIVE LIAR AND JIMIN NEEDS JUSTICE.
Yeah. For real.
yeah ill admit it, I believed mina at first and im not in denial anymore. ppl need to face the truth
I pitied her but never hated Jimin. I admit I did defend Mina when people tried calling her on in the first few weeks when the “scandal” was still new but I never slandered Jimin in those posts. In the early days of the scandal I saw a post that basically said “No one was wrong and this is just a big misunderstanding. Jimin was just a strict leader/ person and Mina being a sensitive person just over exaggerated everything from her perspective”. I stuck with that conclusion and stayed quiet after I noticed her claims inconsistencies and after she just started slandering everyone who even so slightly disagree with her.
Funny how now everyone is siding against Mina when people have been calling out her bs. Just because someone threatens to take their life doesn't mean you have to believe their every word and support them. You can stay out of it and let the professionals handle it. No need to jump to conclusions and judge.
Now that Korea is turning on her, people are starting to see throw her manipulation. Of course some still make excuses and support her, but the others who strongly believed her are starting to say "of i see through her now, she's this and that"
Is korean gp starting to turn their back on her?
And you are right, it's important to stay neutral but also look into both sides. Funny how people pretend to know everything lol
Yes, I read comments on her IG and it's bad even worse because the friend of the ex-gf keep calling mina out for her lies and she even posted an IG story of a naver article criticizing Mina. 😱
@@abi2304 Looking into both sides is ok, but it's not our place to talk about it or go send hate to either party. That makes it harder for the person telling the truth
@@cl559 Mina posted it in her story? I don't follow her so I never really see what's going on
@LovelyKisses no I mean the friend of the ex gf posted a screenshot of an article in Naver in which that article criticized Mina. I was actually answering the question of @AK2 😅
"yeah I stole your money but have you considered that maybe i'm sad ??? :(( " fucking kills me
Yesterday or two days ago, Chanmi posted a story saying there's no point to get mad when nothing can change. And then Mina posted and wrote the caption: Oh let's not write negative posts...
@@onigrri8790 Wait wait what? What comment? What did it say?
Mina just lives out her days checking in her ex group mates and hurting her own feelings. That's just sad
And now, she leave a comment in jimin's ig post..... Seriously, as a victim of bullying, I don't even want to know if my bully was alive or not, I'll just think of him as dead because I resent him so much
How come KMA still stalking SJM if she's the one who bully her?
Hila Holo at this point she’s just bitter about AOA’s success at queendom, she herself even admitted recently that she was “possessed by evil spirits so she went through exorcism”
Mrs girl Kwon Mina got a great timing to hurt herself and her ex-bandmates even more huh- 😭🤚🏼
Damn.
This hits different after listening to a song that goes like
" What if the bad guy wasn't the bad guy? What if the hero wasn't really good? "
are you talking about villain by stella jang?
@@armyswhoblinkonce2711 it’s Fairytales by Gabbie Sophia. The lyrics of Villain are more a play one everyone being the hero in their own mind. It still kind of fits though with the lyrics that translate to “the villain you failed to notice is within you” and “the person you hate most is someone’s beloved child”.
@@powerpuff4ever ohhh i just remembered the song of the top of my head, but that you for telling me the song
Mina is seriously turning into Gabbie Hanna at this point. Both need serious help.
And it’s such a shame, because AOA as 5 on Queendom was everything. Now we’ll never get more of that
She is literally Gabbie Hanna calling everyone bullies
Feels like they have very similar personalities, “manage your expectations”
Or Demi Lovato of kpop
Who's Gabbie Hanna?
@@irenitaawesome8396 Yep I definitely see it.
you guys know what Mina & Mina Stans are most allergic to? : FACTS.
We come at them with facts and they come at us with insults.
Omg ! I love your comment !! 🔥🔥
@@MultiStan18 thanks 😘🤍
@@Belle_vie Kma fans attacking translators but Why none of her fansites translating her posts and staying quiet? Are u guys afraid to expose her true face? Who is being biased here.? Instead of attacking ppl by using mental health as excuse, go read her posts properly and reflect
Right?
@@minyoongi4130 what?? 🗿🗿 Idk what you're talking about
While the Mina-Jimin situation is a delicate subject for K-Pop fans to discuss, the OP did was analyze the situation based on how Mina explained her stories from her Instagram. The video is not a response to what Mina posted on Instagram (an almost 40-minute RUclips video does not take a day or 2 to create *I can be wrong on this*). The timing of the video and Mina's recent post is a coincidence.
Should the OP delete the video because some viewers were offended by the content? No, because that is guilt-tripping. The OP should have the final decision whether to delete the video or not on her own terms. As I mentioned previously, this issue is a delicate subject. There may be controversial information that some fans may not want to hear.
But it is fucked up to blame someone by saying “If Mina commits suicide because of this video, blood will on your hands" (or other similar phrases like this). It is not her fault for creating this video and bringing a different pov on a situation that is not easy to talk about.
Now that Jimin is back to Instagram, Mina has been posting and deleting, a5aforever who translate from korean have all the evidence. Kudos to Jimin for not sue her bc she knows she needs help. And as someone who has a mental illness: IT'S NOT excuse to be a bad person, or yo ruin someone life.
I totally agree with you on everything
To think that I blindly supported mina and villainized jimin. I looked like a fool. I think its just best to not have an opinion in these kind of controversies and just watch as a bystander
You wanna know what I hate? When something like this happenes and then people say "oh this just proves that we DON'T KNOW our idols" but then they also say something like this "well now we KNOW this idol is a bad person" ...you see what i'm getting at?
Yeah. They are such Hypocrites. I don't get a lot of kpop Stan's. Another thing is that one time knetz said a idol mocked a bald person and that was body shaming and yet they body shame idols for being either too fat or too skinny(which they aren't by the way). See what I mean
Gotta love ✨ *Double standards* ✨
Ikr 🙄 ridicoulous
You have jimin aoa as your pfp...PFFFTTTTT
I stan jimin❤
During the beginning of this situation, i didnt rlly believe mina or anything. Even tho i stanned them since like 2014. A similar situation happened in school where this guy (A) accused another guy (B) for bullying bc A didn’t like him, A wanted to b better than him. B didn’t do anything to defend himself cause everyone was attacking him and saying he didn’t deserve to go to school. Later B had killed himself and A admitted that B never bullied or talked to him at all.
i never hated jimin even during the scandal bc we never know whats the actual truth
Same here. I was sad when the scandal broke but i never hated jimin .i was like why should i hate her and call her names when that karma will come back to me ? Peace is the way ..
Now I feel bad for B
Same! Staying neutral is best option as if for now!
Latest info: AoA is 2nd T-ara. jimin doesn't bully mina. Mina playing victim.
Jimin is back everyone! She released a song as well. The song sounds like it would be at the end of a movie and a start of a new era. ❤️❤️❤️
The fact that I fully believed and supported Mina…
It's fine as long as we have the guts to admit that we were wrong and to not make the same mistake again
Bruh, atleast u changed and opened your eyes not like those so-called mina Stan's who still not believing jimins side
Same
Same 😭
Same. I feel really sorry for jimin even tho I myself never wrote any hate comments to her in yt or in ig or any other platform but I'm still Disappointed in myself that I've liked some of the comments in yt saying how horrible she is, bully etc and believed Mina all those time...Mina really fooled a lot of us. Gonna Remove those Likes and report those edited videos and I'll Never believe her again without solid evidences and I hope jimin is doing fine..after all this situation is just messy..
I love how people are crying at you to take this video down because of Mina’s newest post. But your video shows proof of everything you said. She shows literally no evidence in her post. They want you to take something down because it’s not presenting their idol as the angel they want her to be. Kpop fans are crazy. She needs to stay tf off social media and get therapy.
this. i agree full hearted
I'm now seeing things in a new perspective as in Mina's new post she talks about how she doesn't have evidence as she didnt think to collect evidence but before she clearly stated she has lots of evidence. I dont get why she keeps changing her narrative...
@@user-ps8xc5cf6p she will later beg her remaining friends to say smth for her just like how she keep sticking to Luna and using Sulli pic
Exactly
When this all started, people started to question Mina. Then what happened? History has an fucked up way of repeating itself
Going to a salon? Not wanting to practice? Blurring the truth? Did she cheat off Hwayoung? I thought this sounded familiar when it was coming out
Mina: can I copy your homework?
Hwayoung: I didn't do it, but we canake the teacher look bad as an excuse.
@@babyfaceweeb8937 lol
@@babyfaceweeb8937 the worst part is that there are more chances of RHY showing repentance and changing her ways than KMA, which is sad... and I HATE what RHY did and have a hard time when she's mentioned
This honestly just breaks my heart. I feel bad for Mina I really do, she’s obviously going through something. She needs to realize that things are just going to get worse for her the more she keeps lying.
I don’t understand why she would lie about something so serious. I have gone through bullying and abuse before and the fact that there’s proof of her lying about such a thing makes me so upset. I truly did believe her in the beginning but then she started to constantly talk about it and started to act weird.
She needs to stop using her mental health as excuse to avoid the truth. She needs to come out with the truth and get it over with. Jimin’s career is on the line right now because of Mina. Mina publicly talked about her sexual life as if it was everyone’s business. She has lied about the other members as well almost ruining their reputation as well. She needs to come out with the TRUTH.
I don’t hate her at all. I do want her to be happy but she really needs to take a step back and realize what she’s doing Aoa.
This comment pretty much sums up my feelings about this whole situation...
Well Jimin is getting blamed for Mina’s recent s*cide that happened a few hours ago 🙄
I just want to add two things to this video:
1. can we please remember that mina's ex best friend, hyejeong, told us to support both mina and jimin? and she was incredibly brave for that. mina's clearly not the only victim here.
2. imagine how bad seolhyun and the members must feel. they were dragged too (eventually just seolhyun and kinda chanmi), couldn't even speak and mina took advantage of it inciting people to send hate to them when things were getting calmer for them. but yeah, then she would come up with the "don't relate the members nor me to this" and it's also funny how she would hang out with them after her departure, interact with them on sns, say they were her main support during the aoa years... no hate to her, but thanks mina for ruining it all
TRUE
TRUER THAN TRUE
Wait she dragged chanmi? Why
@@angiessaranghae1087 Because Chanmi would only eat half a bowl of rice at meals when they were still in predebut. It made Mina jealous and considered Chanmi to be a tryhard.
@@isafarooq1721 well mina is trash. She twisted everything to her favor. Half the stuff she stated didn’t even make sense
Mina purposely did things to annoy Jimin and AOA. It is Jimin's job as leader to make sure each of the members are practicing enough. And Mina has shown to be irresponsible during her job multiple times. If I was the leader, I would've been pissed off too.
Not to mention her making up rumors to destroy Jimin's reputation and career. How did people not listen to the truth despite the many pieces of evidence?
I keep telling people as a leader it was her job to make sure the group was doing why they had to do. Every mistake mina would have been her responsibility to deal with.That's kpop groups always talk abt how they love their leaders because they know they have it hard
Mina should be glad I'm not that leader
I wonder if the rest of AOA will ever present their testimonies. Obviously they can’t speak up soon with Mina’s current behavior. But they’re basically trapped. If Mina refuses to seek proper help and repeats this pattern forever, then they’ll perpetually be on the verge of being labeled as murderers and bystanders for life.
The worst part is, what if they do come out and their testimonies overwhelmingly contradict hers? I can’t imagine Mina being able to accept the public changing their opinion of her. I hope that she’ll never resort to pulling her trump card to remain as the victim forever.
this is the main reason other members are not speaking up. mina is unstable and according to her new post she self harms herself ever third day and has attempted suicide by taking pills before. if they speak their truth and knetz somehow question mina over it she won't be able to bear it. she is self pitying herself to the point even if hundreds of fans love her she takes offense over 10 hate comments and starts it all over again. she will never not see herself as a victim or even want to recover from her trauma.
@@medicals.4366 this time if other members says something, and if Mina can't handle coz she's oversensitive harm herself again knetz will trash the members and knetz can be such bishes. As if other members aren't facing problems already, they obviously don't want anything that gonna cause problems.
I agree with this comment. It'll gonna be hella huge problem if Mina ever lied about everything, yet, after this case over, and the next thing we knew she's "venting" on her instagram account again because of FNC and AOA 'trauma' she had a hard time doing things even eating like lmao- at this point if her hair got messy it'll be their fault. I just hope that this problem will be solved by both parties soon. But come to think of it, i doubt if AOA could build a stable career again because they already framed as "bystanders" or "bully" and Mina is exposed as a "playing victim". So i can say thatーthis situation just end up like T-Ara and Hwayoung case 2.0 and it's...i have no words to describe it.
Ikr if one or the members say something mina would obviously harm herself and the members would get blamed so it would be a lose lose thats why staying quiet is there best option there trapped they should just stay out of it and hopefully mina changes
A year ago, everyone was hating on Jimin when she was accused of bullying Mina.
One year later, Mina got caught lying and turns out to be a big bully instead.
Looks like Hwayoung and Mina can be best friends as both are masters of playing victim of bullying while in fact they are actually the bully!!
I'm so offended with her recent comments about Jimin's s*xlife. Like wtf. How dare you put that out in public? Stealing a boyfriend is bad as it. I really didn't believe her from the get go. Now I'm watching this video again. This is really like T-ARA all over again. So sad for the other AOA members
The worst thing imo is that she's the one with cervical dysplasia, caused by std, yet she's attacking other girls for their sex life 💀
Honestly me too. When she first mentioned jimin bringing people to the dorms I thought something was soooo weird about her statements. Like what does that have to do with anything. Then she kept brining jimin into her cheating scandal like wtf. I’m glad I kept neutral and just observed the scandal unfold because it’s honestly so shocking
@@Maruman4 yeah why bring Jimin everywhere. Like she is already living a quiet life isolated from everyone. Her obsession is really scary
@@ariana9099 she kept insisting its because of stress and insomnia brought by you guess it right Jimin again
Literally this girl Literally sl_t shamed her
I just have no words I feel so bad for Jimin....
"where else could you possibly be?" she was probably at another hair appointment
Or at nail salon
LMAO
I shouldn't be laughing 😭🤚🏼
Due to Mina now taking back her previous statements, actual victims of bullying in the kpop industry will go unnoticed and will be called false. Horrible.
I have always believed in Jimin. In July last year, I felt that something was wrong and I started to check the information and found that my intuition was correct. I tried to tell a lot of people that there was a problem with Mina. The thing was not what Mina said, but no one believed me and even someone scolded me. It's hard to hear. Thank you for making this video. My tears starter ti fell . I feel very mad and sorry for Jimin, she didn't deserve this
Thank you again
Same...
At first I was one of those "Jimin can change" kid. But as Mina kept releasing statements and statements something didn't sit right with me anymore. But since I wasn't an Elvis I couldn't figure it out. That's why I checked a5aforever on instagram. At first they looked like a troll to me because of the Mina clown memes, also people were hating on a5aforever, the hate was kinda creepy so I decided to just leave myself out of it and don't bother speaking about it.
And then someone shared this video and finally it all makes sense now!
@@asma523 I am not elvis either. I used to go to Weibo to find information because I am Chinese. Later I also entered the group chat of kakaotalk. The people I follow on weibo put things together in October last year (or maybe not, I don’t remember clearly), but no one has spoken in the rest of the world. Now I see this video and I almost cry with excitement.
@@xuyianhu Why is it that international fans who don't know Korean nor Chinese have to be the ones with the least and weakest sources when they can easily jump into conclusions all the time? T_T
@@asma523 Because they think they are messengers of justice
@@xuyianhu Exactly!! They have this "Koreans are toxic and delusional" while they are the most mature and intellectual people in the K-pop world. That's there all the hate on K-netz come from after all
I saw your last post and I really hope you are doing well ...
Disregard the hateful comments from Mina's stans, they are being manipulated. Your videos are awesome. Take your time and rest. And please take care of yourself. 😊
Love you 💙
Most of the Mina stans don’t realize that they are getting manipulated. As someone who had a reaaally manipulative friend at one point it’s easy to know that Mina is one. Every time she fucks up and gets criticsized she attempts or posts a sh picture to avoid the responsability and gain sympathy and that’s manipulative behaviour
we need to appreciate k-pop leaders bc of how strong they are if they scold a member for not doing the right thing you would automatically say they are bullying them but if they don't and let them do the wrong thing you would call them a bad leader like make it make sense
Came here after I saw a post about recent issue with Mina and her boyfriend. Someone recommended this. I’m surprised this is actually a good analysis, please don’t delete the video :)
Make this video go viral. Videos bashing Jimin without proof have millions of views. This needs to be VIRAL…
Thank you for making this video... All of what you have said and SHOWN in here, is what some of us ELVIS have talked about for almost a year now. To this day, after all of this happened, Mina has shown ZERO proof of all of what she has said, ZERO, nothing at all. And it's as you said, every time she is confronted, she plays the victim card again. I've been an ELVIS for years, and my sentiment with Mina is difficult, because I too believe what she is going through is real, in her head, I think she has created a whole new reality that suits her victim complex and I think she needs so much help and it's so sad to see how ALONE she is.
Every other AoA girl has friends, family, celebrities supporting them. And Mina is always so alone... and there is a reason why. People seem to "support" her but form afar, not one single person has come up and stood up for her or back up her claims, not a single ONE. Not a single celebrity or employee has come up and talked against Jimin, no one. And our theory is that no one wants to com up front and call Mina's bullshit because they know she can actually hurt herself more or go all the way, and no one want's to be responsible of that. So that's why they just ignore her, notice how to this day the ONLY person who keeps talking about this, is Mina herself, the same Mina who "doesn't want to re-live all the painful memories".
And I do hope one day Jimin gets a chance to redeem herself, best she has done is just disappear and be quiet, hope she is getting help and taken care of, can't imagine seeing your career and reputation destroyed in just a couple of hours, kpop fans made up their mind.
I also wish Mina well as a person, she is clearly so alone and with real mental issues. But at the same time I have feelings against her, I've dealt with situations like this in person, and people need to understanding that having an illness does not extent people form being bad themselves.
Mina did not only assassinated Jimin's life, but destroyed AoA and tainted every other member's reputation. To this day, Seolhyun keeps getting so much hate just for being close to Jimin. Same Seolhyun which Mina "loved", same Seolhyun who always supported Mina, and same Seolhyun who is years younger than Mina and is called responsible to what her elder did. Now having revenge on Jimin and apparently Seolhyun (My personal take, she is jealous that SH got everything she wanted, acting, popularity and praised for her beauty).
Mina did not only assassinate Jimin's reputation, she also harmed her other members and is still doing it to this day, and once again I'll say it. Without a SINGLE evidence of anything she has said.
how do I copy paste this
Yes, I can't look at mina in same time view again after she basically destroy aoa members carrier, especially chanmi and seolhyun
Seolhyun and Chanmi man, these two specially I really feel bad for them!
I feel sad for chanmi especially because she finally got her glow up and popularity in queendom as she never got it during her career .
Eg ) her action scene in sorry , her 2 dance breaks. Her stage with rowoon and king of masked singer.
Yuna left aoa quietly without even getting her solos ,hyejeong never got to shine as lead vocalist.
Chanmi and Seolhyun, i feel bad for them.
You're doing the lords work. No one has the bravery to post this. No one but you. Thank you.
As a longtime AOA fan, I was really heartbroken about this situation. Jimin was my favorite member too. But I’ll admit that I was quick to believe Mina without looking deeper into the situation or trying to see the other side. But your video has turned me into a skeptic now tbh. I don’t wanna take sides since I think we still don’t have the full story (or at least enough of it). But this situation reminds me of a friendship I had that ended because I finally snapped back at them for treating me poorly. They had BPD and they started slandering me afterwards. But it was clear that due to their mental illness, their perception of things that happened was very skewed, so they genuinely believed all the things that they made up. I wouldn’t be surprised if something similar was happening here. But again, I don’t want to be rash and quickly pick sides like i did last time. But I appreciate this video and the evidence that you shared. I’m more open minded to trying to see the situation from another perspective. I’ll say that your video makes it seem like Jimin’s career was ended over pure defamation and I feel bad. But we still don’t really know the situation. Maybe in the future we will get the bigger picture and find out what happened
I swear when will it be enough. From lying, to playing victim now to HOMEWRECKING???... seriously when will she stop...
and being possessed like who is she fooling
Wondering if she even opens up her social media, being branded a homewrecker on top of all this isn't good for her mental issues.
@@onigrri8790 Yep, I’ve even seen a lot of more of international fans starting to find Mina ver suspicious, and found out some of her problematic actions ever since the Mina’s bf cheating situation. Some of them even hesitates supporting Mina now.
@@onigrri8790 I will give a benefit of the doubt towards some supporters that they might be totally unaware of Mina being problematic. However, there are some supporters who are aware at least somewhat of the situation like the cheating scandal but is being defensive about it by saying "uh it's not of our business", like yeah fair enough, but why even saying this? Mina's new bf's ex is the victim in this situation. Where is that same energy of "none of our business" for the Jimin-Mina bullying allegation when it first started then? Yes the bullying allegation is a lot worse, but both cases involves at least one victim.
She gets into so much drama, everyone else in AOA is moving on without scandals. Mina is the only one creating messy situation. It shows her true character.
Omg I just saw Mina's current situation about the bf she's having a relationship with while still in another relationship. 😱 It is so messy. She even lied about the father of the supposed ex-gf threatening her. If she can lie about that then how credible are her other statements??? I cannot 😭. Make another video please.
She posted an apology video on this topic about sorry she was but it was like only 5 mins then the rest of the video went on saying all this happened because Jimin bullied her, girl literally ruined a relationship, became a homewrecker exposed the gf's name and talk shit about that gf's father and yes all this happened because Jimin bullied her 🙄
I wasn't a fan when the issue started but became one when it blew up, i searched for evidence for the so called bullying and i never found any?? The only thing i found was that they were actually okay and with each other and was friends. It's not easy to act all lovey dovey with someone who you consider bullied you for 11 years + everything mina said in her instagram posts had loop holes which was brought up by korean netizens and backed it up with evidence. I'm glad someone spoke up about this from a 3rd person point of view.
I have bipolar type 1 myself. I have gone on many psychotic breaks, manic/depressive episodes and everywhere in between. I've truly believed certain people were after me, and have said/did many of the things Mina has to Jimin, but to my parents/friends instead. Genuinely unable to process reality. Bipolar episodes don't last forever, and when I come out of them, I feel endless guilt and remorse. I always apologize and clear things up.
If she has bipolar, it's unrelated to her desperate desire to have her as the victim and Jimin as the perpetrator. This has been going on for years, episodes usually don't last that long. Her potential bipolar disorder would have nothing to do with the meticulous, diabolical-factor of her lies. Someone manic rambles, she is very consistent with her actions and words. I've seen her kinda do both though, and the way she adamantly denies bipolar disorder is suspicious.
I've been stable for 6 years, and the journey is anything but easy. So if she does have it, I still can empathize, but she uses it to her advantage to ignore criticism, so I can only empathize so much. Either way, she most certainly has something. As someone with the condition, I see similar actions. There are few conditions where you slowly, but then suddenly, snap like Mina did.
TL;DR I have bipolar 1, but I still think she's a total bitch that needs to stop begging for attention and stop blaming Jimin for her mental health condition. I'm no mental health professional, but the similarities I see are undeniable. Maybe now she'll go into a psychiatric hospital considering how much this must be triggering her. That's what saved my life.
We’re here for you Everglow up!
Mina’s Fans say that it’s so bad that their fav got bullied! But they bully everyone! Not just Jimin everyone when the scandal came out i said that idc and I’m not on any sides but KMA’s fans attacked me literally for doin nothin they’re so toxic
I agree with you. I want Mina to be healthy and strong enough to see herself. If she believes herself , she should show her fans about her performance, work (dance cover or cover song). I want her to stop showing her bloody hand to get more fans. Everything what happen in the past can’t be changed . We own our present and future.
exactlyyyy!!! and theyre not her hands (not that i want her hands to be bloody) but to do that... prolly for clout... nah, has to be some kind of messed up thinking.. i hope she makes her recovery her topmost priority rather than having many people kiss her feet
It is more clear now than ever how Mina used threats of unaliving herself to manipulate the audience and public without ever showing proof of bullying. Despite the fact that she claimed to have solid proof at the beginning.
Her manager dropped her off from her father's hospital five minutes away, but she chose not to go. Jimin never told her not to go see her father. I don't understand why she blame Jimin. Apparently it was her own choice.
THIS
I mean it could be terrifying to see someone dying especially loved one. Mina actually said that it was scary to see her dad because she knew he was dying. Then, she blamed jimin for this. I mean why? It was her own choice. It could be regrettable thing to do but it was Mina's decision. There is no one to take responsible for this.
@@hyowonlee585 Your last reply is basically it. Maybe Mina regrets not being with her dad in his last moments, and has now made herself to believe that it was other people keeping her from seeing him, instead of her own choice. Because no one really could handle the guilt and regret of choosing not to see your dad in his last moments. Maybe she even actually believes in was Jimin who kept her from seeing him, which is the scary thing.
She needs help, and her current therapist is obviously not doing enough. She needs more and better help.
Whatever her problem is, it runs deep.
@@cilantroisbetterthanparsley this. she is basically feeling guilty of not seeing her father on his death bed and is not mentally strong to face the reality. jimin might have scolded her for crying in the waiting room of music show but she did not have the authority or say in her meeting her dad( she was given 2 weeks leave by the company and driver dropped her off near the hospital). she connected the two situations and blamed it all on jimin. because it is relieves her of her guilt.
@@medicals.4366 Indeed, that seems logical.
I'm not stating that my comment is the absolute truth, of course not. It's just speculation. Thought I'd clarify that
gurlll she changed her bio and said that she gonna explain everything you better get ready for part 2 👀👀👀👀
She keep saying she's going to explain everything since forever... It's so suspicious, I feel like it's because she did not get the response she expected from knetz so she will explain AGAIN version 400. Knetz literally don't buy her many many explanations anymore. 🤦♀️
@@cl559 yeah she said that she gonna explain every little details, she better do so 😗 but she will do some times after reflecting herself or maybe she’s trying to buy time to think another excuses and lies 😪 i really wanna see everglow-up having a debate with her and see how mina gonna lie to her. but i can see mina will avoid by saying oh sorry i dont understand english 🙄
@@cl559 and she probably know knetz wont support her anymore so she can at least lie to the i-netz or her stupid dumbass fans 🙄
she said she wanted to take a break from social media right? ☠️☠️ what's wrong with her
I want to clarify something when Jimin's father passed Jimin apologized to Mina for being insensitive to her when her father passed away NOT for bullying her. And in Jimin's final statement which is still on her insta account, she NEVER acknowledges bullying Mina at all. She only apologized for not looking out for her more and that she failed her as a leader but did not say she bullied her.
**Edit:** Another messed up thing about Mina that I forgot to mention after Mina ruined Jimin's career she gained a lot of followers, left her company, and started selling her product she claims can cure covid and prevent cancer, the Twitter thread link I put in the description box has the screenshots as proof. This woman is A HOT MESS!!
You deserve more subs 👑
You're amazing, you're my inspiration I love you 😊✊
@@yellow92959 I did @ 0:49
@@everglowup hey you are really amazing with how you speak and edit videos?
Can you also make a video about Jessica Jung and how she got kicked out by her own members and the rumors of the media?
@@everglowup Oops, I didn't see that.
Everytime mina gets in trouble she always drags jimin in it 🗿
Also please make a part2
This is what's happening with April right now. No one should choose sides right away because you never know.
funniest thing is that Hyunjoo's brother is a minor, and when DSP threatened legal action he said he lied; and now suddenly is true again...? what...?
@@sugarqcoat People are giving sympathy and more hate to April cuz her brother's a minor, but that literally makes things easier for Hyunjoo if allegations were false. I feel like she used him to see the reaction of the public. Hyunjoo has gotten much more popular after the accusations.
Pretty sure Chaewon and Yena confirmed it but said "they were younger"
I stay neutral for every bullying scandal.
@@nikhilramkrishnan2018 they both denied bullying her though. They were meaning to say it was hard for all of them and they probably didn’t know how to handle a member who was physically and mentally sick.
Accuse someone without proof, talking about someone having s*x in dorm, bringing a dead person into this situation, Ruined the group. Wow mina has gone too far I'm really glad I'm a natural
I won't invalidate mina's words regarding Jimin. but it's really frustrating how Mina literally ruined seolhyun's and aoa's career just because. in her last live, the reasons why Mina wanted seolhyun to apologize were that sh raised her OWN dog in her OWN (and different from mina's) dorm and that sh gave her an advice about boys Mina didn't like. seolhyun and the remaining members kept hanging out with her after her departure, kept joining her lives and interacting on social media.
I think jimin could have been a tough leader, but mina's personality is clearly difficult. I'd say a lot more things but I'm just tired and mentally drained after almost 1 year seeing and discovering new events and stuff that makes me think that there are more than just one victim. maybe all of them were the victims. anyways, I hope she gets better soon
yep was really sad how Seolhyun is heavily affected by the situation. i already knew shit were sketchy when she first claimed to have had a fun time promoting w aoa, only days later to unfollow her and start dragging how Seolhyun won’t speak up for herself when being badmouthed by Jimin. her side of story was inconsistent and that was when i decided to stay neutral.
And Mina had a dog too (unfortunately dead RIP🙏🏾) when she was in AOA
it shows how she’s very sensitive to the slightest inconvenience
@@mahdidrake7449 Mina is oversensitive and is triggered by the slightest inconvenience. Also, she clearly has no friends, no support system. That's why she rants on Instagram instead consulating a psychiatrist. I kinda feel bad for Mina. She is in a volatile condition with no support system. But, that doesn't give her the permission to ruin someone's career. Seolhyun was the highest earning in AOA and she used to share her income with everyone in the group. Mina shouldn't forget that.
It's just crazy how one member can single handedly destroy a group with their lies.
And all has been revealed 😭😭 Poor A5A lost everything over nothing...
Please don’t delete this video! It needs to go viral!
!!!
Keep sharing the video, let's expose minas lies
@@someonesavedoyoungfromnct8162 have any prove is mina lying
@@nurulamalia6104 …did you watch the video….
@@nurulamalia6104 bye you didn’t watch shit 💀
So far this is the only video that made sense regarding the situation. Other videos are just siding with Mina without even knowing the whole story and truth. All those rude videos don't prove anything. People be like "Oh she has an RBF" when it's their faves but for Jimin she was just being rude.
Btw I don't follow AoA.
True .same here
I'm elvis, so thank you For trust our jimin :(
Honestly, Mina has a worse RBF for me cuz she looks kinda snakey/manipulative to me
Mina attempted suicide because her ex boyfriend didn’t reply to her + hate comments on insta. He received a message from her a few hours before she attempted (screenshots uploaded on his insta). And she even said she was losing her mind because of the hate dm’s. Yet people blame jimin and aoa for this??? Wtf? I want mina to get well but people should not be telling jimin to kill herself right now when it wasn’t even about her this time. Jimin has depression and is on medication too.
I feel really bad for Jimin now she lost a career. She worked so hard. I hope Mina gets help.
she needs to work at a place that doesn't tolerate laziness and incompetence, she clearly was looking for a low effort job LOL
Yes, maybe jimin was just a strict leader who strive for perfection, just like those dedicated trainer on produce 101 who made many contestants cry. Mina who is bad at singing and lazy afraid from getting reprimanded by Jimin and the other member was not a bystander, they just felt it was a normal thing for jimin as the leader to be angry at her bcs she was lacking and lazy
@@AnnaBrown99 leader strict because of public opinion and demand from label. They're second generation idol, and everything need to be perfect. I'm really glad that after what happen to some idol, public opinion seem to be more open about mental health issues regarding idol. And law about it also change little bit. So, idol now a day can take rest for their mental health problem. Back then, idol can't even express their sick etc. And that why, a lot of second generation idol get sick till fainted on stage. That also happen to Seolhyun aoa, because she the most famous of the group. They're didn't get any salary for few year because need to paid off debt for debut. Mostly income get from Seolhyun cf and acting. I blame this to FNC, or any label out there. They're the reason behind this thing happens. But society only see idol wrong but never blame their label for lack of management and provided good environment.
@@zerolife1690 every fans always blame the label, they blame jyp for mistreating got7 and overwork twice, they blame TS for ruining BAP career, etc people also blame FNC for aoa cases. My point is if the bullying case is not brought to court and mina doesn’t want to take legal action, it’s better to stay neutral… there is 50% probability that mina exaggerate the story
@@AnnaBrown99 they didn't bring it to court because it will not give them any good. The more they publish this issues, the more they ruin their image and income. Because people have 2 sided story, and mostly people blame Jimin and AOA member. I know about blaming label a thing, but they never cancel the label like they did to idol. That what I want to express, label didn't get much shit like idol get from public. They still can survive and produce new group for another day. But, idol will suffer forever. I'm neutral, I know something lack with Mina part because Jimin and other members didn't have chance to tell their story regarding this issues. I'm following this issues because of love I have for Seolhyun. I'm not AOA fan, but I follow Seolhyun career as actress and her reality show. The effects of this thing make me feel bad, because I think Seolhyun didn't deserve the backlash.