2022 Disc Golf Pro Tour Championship | FINALF9 | Wysocki, Buhr, McBeth, Robinson | Jomez Disc Golf

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @JomezPro
    @JomezPro  2 года назад +7

    FREE shipping on orders over $50 + 10% off SITEWIDE. No coupon code necessary. Sale goes through Monday! jomezpro.com/shop/

    • @sparkynate91
      @sparkynate91 2 года назад

      I know everyone already knew the scores before this was put up... but you don't help your channel by hyping up Ricky so much. Dogging Paul so much... and then hyping Isaac more than Gannon... I mean you guys both sat there and simped on Ricky when he DIDN'T EVEN GET TOP 10 IN WORLD'S! You guys definitely give away the outcomes of your videos by your openers...

  • @jackblifts
    @jackblifts 2 года назад +212

    i think i can speak for everyone when i say we appreciate Uli’s “let’s see how it plays out” in the intro

    • @dillbags809
      @dillbags809 2 года назад

      Hell ya

    • @zackdyer93
      @zackdyer93 2 года назад +4

      Came here to comment the same thing! He's really leaning into it lately and I love it.

    • @coltenfassett423
      @coltenfassett423 2 года назад +1

      I thought the same thing, you know he loved it 🤗

  • @scr00bins3
    @scr00bins3 2 года назад +15

    Jomez is seriously the best at hyping up the finals rounds. Every. Single. TIME. I get this little bit of adrenaline from the final round intro. No matter the tournament. LET'S GO

    • @JustDisc
      @JustDisc 2 года назад

      You sure?… that worlds final round was butchered and put a bad taste in our mouths

  • @videosverigenu4621
    @videosverigenu4621 2 года назад +16

    4 players that are EXTREMELY good at putting! This is gonna be good!!

  • @avoiceinthewilderness-c2z
    @avoiceinthewilderness-c2z Год назад +4

    Isaac Robinson is quickly becoming one of my faves.

  • @crispytuba
    @crispytuba 2 года назад +71

    Did anyone see Ganon trolling Isaac at the end of hole 8? Handed him the putter and just held onto it 😅

    • @dmdsegan
      @dmdsegan 2 года назад

      🤣

    • @gagethebowler1204
      @gagethebowler1204 2 года назад +3

      Broo ik I went to the live coverage to see if I could see the rest of it but they cut it 😂😂

    • @Phripheoniks
      @Phripheoniks 2 года назад +4

      yeah I wonder if that counts as bad sportsmanship the rules? Funny as hell obviously, but I'd expect that from a practice round/skins match

    • @HansPauli
      @HansPauli 2 года назад

      17 and cheeky

    • @DrFlemingR
      @DrFlemingR 2 года назад +7

      @@Phripheoniks they're pretty close friends I'm sure Isaac wouldn't say anything. Against randoms yeah that would be a bad look for sure

  • @Lord_Sully
    @Lord_Sully 2 года назад +11

    I love Jomez so much. Great way to start the work week! Let's see how it plays out!

  • @y_chefy9821
    @y_chefy9821 2 года назад +4

    I think disc golf is sooooo underrated just because the start up cost to learn to play is lower than any other sport I ever seen. Love to see it grow more and more

    • @drewg3087
      @drewg3087 2 года назад

      Yup easily start under $50 maybe under $40.

    • @ephtowne1750
      @ephtowne1750 2 года назад

      Yeah well you see. I was so overwhelmed in the store that I spent 200.00 dollars and I'm ok to admit it.

  • @johnraburn1093
    @johnraburn1093 2 года назад +17

    Have you noticed how much faster Gannon is putting now? It's like he has so much respect for the rules of the sport and his fellow competitors he made the nessessary adjustments to speed up his putting routine. Can you think of anyone who hasn't?

    • @Giedrocz
      @Giedrocz 2 года назад +8

      I feel like it shows he learns fast. Him being 17 and already finishing the season in the top 4 is incredible and I'm here for it!

    • @gabrielzwyghuizen
      @gabrielzwyghuizen Год назад

      Lol you talking about niko? Everyone loves to hate him.

  • @heikkimanninen6133
    @heikkimanninen6133 2 года назад +1

    16:26 I love how thrilled Jeremy sounds when he's talking about Ricky's throw even though he has seen it live.

  • @sanchzilla477
    @sanchzilla477 2 года назад +1

    That through the tree shot filming Ricky set up his shot on hole 8 really shows the artistry involved when it comes to Jomez coverage. Increases the production value so much! Some of the wide shots they do with the crowds of spectators behind the players reminds me of a Kurosawa film.

  • @cameronbuckler7981
    @cameronbuckler7981 2 года назад

    Why does the very beginning JomezPro intro give off such positive vibes🙏

  • @listondavis
    @listondavis 2 года назад +10

    Barbasol really missed an opportunity here to put giant shaving can shaped koozies on the baskets.

  • @kjbkix
    @kjbkix 2 года назад

    "As time goes on, this is going to become the most important tournament" - is such an excellent self-fulfilling prophecy. The players have the power to determine which events matter more than others, and that can evolve as time goes on. I also think the tournament aspect could bring in a lot of casual fans who appreciate the drama of that format. Great future for this sport!

  • @MikkoAlexzander
    @MikkoAlexzander 2 года назад +7

    These intro pieces these year have been HYPE!!🔥🔥

  • @sueinraleigh3091
    @sueinraleigh3091 2 года назад +3

    Hey thanks for grabbing those distance reads for us! Great coverage guys!!

  • @Arijuskay
    @Arijuskay 2 года назад +3

    Big Jerm with the bigg derb rip @20:17

  • @csdangerfield
    @csdangerfield 2 года назад

    Thanks for these videos! Love being able to watch the pros and you have great commentary :D

  • @bobanderson620
    @bobanderson620 2 года назад +1

    jerm be like on every video, since jomez's inception... "that's the best shot we've ever seen, ever since the dawn of time, ever"

  • @sullenpuffin
    @sullenpuffin 2 года назад +1

    DREAM CARD. Love the variety of skill sets on show here

  • @TheTooby44
    @TheTooby44 2 года назад +6

    Absolute BEAST of an intro. LET'S GO 🔥

  • @roedinger7634
    @roedinger7634 2 года назад +3

    Jeremy looks like he was hitting a dab cart when they were teeing off an hole 5😅😅

  • @samuelehrhardt3732
    @samuelehrhardt3732 2 года назад

    watching these guys just absolutely shred after how much trouble we've seen this course give other top players was pretty incredible

  • @million_smiles_disc
    @million_smiles_disc 2 года назад

    Uli is the best. The more I watch him the more I love him. Big jerk is a legend as well.

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 2 года назад +1

    Wow! A DGN event which isn't presented in 360p30 masquerading as 1080p60.
    And with discs actually visible in flight!
    And with no blockies!
    Come on DGN, it's 2022, and you're producing live feeds of the sort of quality we hated back in 2014.
    Thank goodness Jomez Pro are still allowed to record and render in proper high-quality 1080p60. Thanks for that, Jomez!

  • @apinakapina
    @apinakapina 2 года назад

    Weird watching the semis and this back to back. It's plays like a different course with these guys, and the others are world class too.

  • @tyleradelman3644
    @tyleradelman3644 2 года назад +1

    “If Ricky wins” when jerm is talking about Paul 😅

  • @yakcoffee
    @yakcoffee 2 года назад +3

    not saying gannon buhr isn't exceptional but as disc golf has become widely popular, surely the purses have gotten larger making it easier to reach 100k faster

  • @noblejennette2101
    @noblejennette2101 2 года назад +4

    Gannon will be the best in the world, but if he got into the gym and added 25-35lbs of muscle, he’d revolutionize the entire game. Like Tiger did in golf. Kid is incredible.

    • @mattburton4392
      @mattburton4392 2 года назад

      Sincere question, what does he need extra muscle for? Doesn't help you throw a disc farther or with more accuracy.

    • @drewg3087
      @drewg3087 2 года назад

      Agree

    • @drewg3087
      @drewg3087 2 года назад

      @@mattburton4392 he's too lanky but still young.

    • @BurgetSe
      @BurgetSe 2 года назад

      @@mattburton4392 theoretically more weight adds distance. Although I'm not sure the rationale here, tbh. Maybe the idea is to get distance on par with players like Garrett Gurthie, then with Gannon's short game it adds up. But Anthony Barela has a massive arm without being "big."

  • @drewlowell
    @drewlowell 2 года назад +1

    Favorite card to watch all year Top 4 putter all in one card aside from a couple people who might be able to contest that but overall an amazing card to watch play

  • @DKBouch21
    @DKBouch21 2 года назад

    "Lookin' like a breakfast chef."
    "Just scramblin' eggs."

  • @lucaspoppenga6059
    @lucaspoppenga6059 2 года назад

    I can't believe jomez is under a million subs

  • @billystodolski
    @billystodolski 2 года назад +1

    So hyped for this

  • @rmtomasin
    @rmtomasin 2 года назад

    Love the intro!

  • @GregStanbro
    @GregStanbro 2 года назад +2

    To the camera operators; If you can see the basket, please pan out to get the basket in view after you track and see the shot and the disc come to rest. Without this, we don't have context about how good or bad the shot was after you did such a good job in tracking the shot and the disc. Thank you.

  • @Malegys
    @Malegys 2 года назад

    Great Line-up right there.

  • @OjaiBonsai
    @OjaiBonsai 2 года назад +4

    I’m bummed Sexton left. I guess DGN gave him a better offer

  • @cguimaraenz
    @cguimaraenz 2 года назад

    Not much related to the sport itself (which I love, btw), but does anyone know the name of the song playing while introducing each hole? Thanks!

  • @bsimmons19
    @bsimmons19 2 года назад

    I love the clarification that some sidearm bomber probably drove it further. I’m sure they aced it too 😂

  • @TENGILL
    @TENGILL 2 года назад

    Here we go!

  • @gregoryanderson5917
    @gregoryanderson5917 2 года назад +4

    I would pick Calvin throwing an eagle to hit the first gap on hole 1

  • @kt420ish
    @kt420ish 2 года назад

    Hole 4, Big Jerm in the background towering over the crowd

  • @mattynutrition9353
    @mattynutrition9353 2 года назад

    Would love to hear more “what is stupid Jeremy throwing here” commentary 😂

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez 2 года назад

    what an intro boys

  • @Among_The_Woods
    @Among_The_Woods 2 года назад

    The jomez music is 100% a Fable 2 vibe.

  • @JoshJackson13
    @JoshJackson13 2 года назад

    It's hard for putters like me and Paul on wooded courses in the fall because we push off our back foot and slipps

  • @citisoccer
    @citisoccer 2 года назад +5

    You guys may not be the best at playing, but you're unquestionably the most entertaining commentary team. You guys just keep the sport growing, and you could full out retire to the broadcast booth. Enjoy every commentary you guys do.

    • @bigjermdg
      @bigjermdg 2 года назад +1

      🙏❤️👍👑🌭

  • @tylerdillow6923
    @tylerdillow6923 2 года назад

    36:40 Jerm and Uli ception

  • @Ranveer-Geet
    @Ranveer-Geet 2 года назад

    Thank you team Jomez. 🙏

  • @neonostrich5522
    @neonostrich5522 2 года назад

    Jeremy Koling Sighting at 16:42

  • @farteinjonassen7523
    @farteinjonassen7523 2 года назад +2

    RUclips algorithm seems to be pretty sure I want to see the B9 first.

  • @Skinnyjeans16
    @Skinnyjeans16 2 года назад +1

    Jerm and Uli, you guys are the GOATs of commentating 🐐🐐

  • @davidgunn6646
    @davidgunn6646 2 года назад

    Isaac was absolutely aiming for that gap on hole 9.

  • @Dontslaythybroski
    @Dontslaythybroski 2 года назад +1

    dgn? whats that?

  • @DrFlemingR
    @DrFlemingR 2 года назад

    Who's that tall guy following the card

  • @Burgee_6289
    @Burgee_6289 2 года назад +2

    ah the hole 5 log. It's big. It's heavy. It's wood

  • @erictriplett33
    @erictriplett33 2 года назад +3

    Hole 1 one person to hit that gap, have to consider Calvin H in that discussion...

    • @dillbags809
      @dillbags809 2 года назад

      Was thinking the same thing

  • @Linky609
    @Linky609 2 года назад

    Alright discraft I need a "let's see how it plays out" raptor or nuke stamp

  • @dylanchambers2241
    @dylanchambers2241 2 года назад

    Big Jerm had a bit of a Freudian slip at 6:07.

  • @dannywelch9708
    @dannywelch9708 2 года назад +3

    Gannon hole5: “Oh what did that even hit?”
    Umm, that fat tree you squared up…

    • @bigjermdg
      @bigjermdg 2 года назад +3

      To be fair, it was nearly impossible to see the twig he hit from his lie. I went over to the spot to see for myself. He threw a really good shot

    • @dannywelch9708
      @dannywelch9708 2 года назад

      @@bigjermdg now I feel stupid lol. The camera angle made it look like it went right at that tree. Thanks for the insider info Jerm.

  • @bryanmartin8336
    @bryanmartin8336 2 года назад +1

    There should be a drinking game for how many times they talk about earnings and payouts. Except we'd be blacking out by the 3rd hole.

    • @bobzelley5100
      @bobzelley5100 2 года назад

      They are providing gross. Net is about half .
      For a town that just paid $80,000,000 for a highway interchange to nowhere, ( government leaders were schooled by Panthers owner) rock Hill could have thickened the payout envelopes .

  • @justinh7450
    @justinh7450 2 года назад

    Once again when Paul plays with Ricky he plays bad. Ricky is Paul's kryptonite.

  • @omnipixelvideos4838
    @omnipixelvideos4838 2 года назад

    Gannon and Isaac at the end of hole 8.. 🤣

  • @lyilsperry4428
    @lyilsperry4428 2 года назад

    Listening to the coverage but seeing jerm and Paul in the background of the play. Lol they are just legends of commentary. Way to try to keep the mystery.

  • @Feanor916
    @Feanor916 2 года назад

    Go Isaac!!!!

  • @natebell4764
    @natebell4764 2 года назад

    its alright buddy

  • @Malegys
    @Malegys 2 года назад +1

    I heard that the organizers told Gannon not to wear a brown t-shirt as he would be confused with a tree on the course...

  • @thompsonmichael
    @thompsonmichael 2 года назад

    This tournament format is slightly confusing. Is there a graphic/breakdown of what happens. Is there only 4 remaining now? Or was there pre qualification for this final and 4 from the semis were added? Making 8 remaining?

    • @dmellowww
      @dmellowww 2 года назад

      Top 4 moved forward every round…but certain players had byes for certain rounds up to the semi finals. So, this round only had these 4 players. Semi finals had 8.

    • @thompsonmichael
      @thompsonmichael 2 года назад

      Ah ok. All of rankings? Was there wild cards?

    • @eristicfreethinker2098
      @eristicfreethinker2098 2 года назад

      PDGA has graphic on their site

  • @JasonAllmen
    @JasonAllmen 2 года назад

    Pumped!

  • @Campb3llt0wn
    @Campb3llt0wn 2 года назад

    Sometimes I wish uli and big jerm would be honest in their coverage and not be so one sided about how much better Uli is than Big Jerm.

  • @trentalexander9970
    @trentalexander9970 2 года назад

    ❤️

  • @southtoe3607
    @southtoe3607 2 года назад

    The bratwurst tunnel is the part everyone is gonna remember from this one lmao

  • @julianmarshall1346
    @julianmarshall1346 2 года назад

    Don’t disagree with the assessment of these being the top putters in the world, just don’t leave out Corey Ellis 🤷🏻

  • @illwithit.3621
    @illwithit.3621 2 года назад

    You should wear the hot dog hat with the hot dog shirt

  • @argonious7956
    @argonious7956 2 года назад

    These guys throw putters 400, and I can't throw anything 300. Blows my mind a bit.

  • @jacobthompson382
    @jacobthompson382 2 года назад

    CMON BUHR

  • @kevinhoopes5711
    @kevinhoopes5711 2 года назад

    Gannon on hole 9 🤷‍♂️
    Like...yea you missed, we're not gonna count it 🤨

  • @kurshinburshin9784
    @kurshinburshin9784 2 года назад

    Why are there so many random crotch shots in all of jomez’ B roll footage.

  • @DnBGolf
    @DnBGolf 2 года назад

    I fought the log and the log won

  • @dizzydabz6905
    @dizzydabz6905 2 года назад +1

    Someone get Gannon some better shoes 😄

  • @extraordinarilybasic3250
    @extraordinarilybasic3250 2 года назад

    Dont move your head, work around the disc, throw dem bows🤌🏼

  • @jenewcomb
    @jenewcomb 2 года назад

    A really skinny tall capital L, that's upside down and reversed. So a 7?

  • @fikus2k
    @fikus2k 2 года назад

    McBeth fought the log and the - log won

  • @stardustie
    @stardustie 2 года назад

    imo without watching this video the current top10 in the world in no particular order is McBeth Wysocki Robinson Buhr Anttila Lizotte Heimburg Orum Gossage McMahon

  • @Manhyzershot
    @Manhyzershot 2 года назад +1

    Every person I know that has met Ricky has told me he’s super arrogant and not a nice guy…. All that talent and such a huge platform, why have a bad reputation like that?

    • @iggsterify
      @iggsterify 2 года назад +2

      Other than his handling of the Lyme Disease "holistic medicine" controversy I have literally never heard a single negative thing about him. I've also heard multiple firsthand accounts claiming exactly the opposite. Not sure who's giving you that information but I think we set an unrealistic expectation for how iconic athletes are supposed to act

    • @mijo5964
      @mijo5964 2 года назад

      Sorry your boy McBeth got his ass handed to him all year 😂😢

    • @mijo5964
      @mijo5964 2 года назад

      If anybody has a bad reputation it’s Paul McBeth who screwed over Brodie Smith and can’t crack a genuine smile to save his life unless he’s winning.

    • @Manhyzershot
      @Manhyzershot 2 года назад

      @@mijo5964 I’m not a Mcbeth fan 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @danieldziepak6561
    @danieldziepak6561 2 года назад +1

    Man I wish i could go pro. Im 18 so i got a late start and my putting is atrocious but im working my ass off in the hot,cold,and wind to become the best i can be

    • @aferalmidget915
      @aferalmidget915 2 года назад +1

      Daniel, you are doing great bro. 18 isn’t too bad yet. Hell I got into it at 25 haha. As long as you are doing better than you were the day before, that is success my man. Keep up the hard work and you will make it, period!

    • @braydenn6199
      @braydenn6199 2 года назад +2

      Just keep up the grind. I’m 17 and started playing a few months ago and have already seen leaps and bounds in my gameplay. I started at staying to what I was comfortable and getting better at that. (RHBH or which part of ur game ur better at) Then work on what needs worked on the most but don’t forget about everything else or they’ll fall behind

    • @braydenn6199
      @braydenn6199 2 года назад +1

      Even if it’s getting your own basket to get extra putt reps to practice or going to a course and putting for a while before your actual round or after your round because you’ll have to putt when you’re tired too so might as well practice some being fatigued

    • @danieldziepak6561
      @danieldziepak6561 2 года назад +1

      @@aferalmidget915 not doing to bad putting is rough but I've been throwing all mids to better my form i can drive about 200-250 consistently but im also learning 2 mids. Both csn hyzer flip with certain/power but mainly my turnover disc for now

    • @danieldziepak6561
      @danieldziepak6561 2 года назад

      @@braydenn6199 i got a basket i practice almost daily

  • @JES8SHRNDZzz
    @JES8SHRNDZzz 2 года назад

    Mute is better😅!

  • @vicccey1345
    @vicccey1345 2 года назад +1

    Appreciate the nods to the people who make these courses possible....safe to say most people don't realize the blood, sweet and tears and frustrations!!!! .. it takes to make these courses a reality....having said that..please consider bringing back some of the older starframe music....the new intro is cool..but all year?? its gotten very annoying and the older music is so much better..anyway...thanks for the content... sincerely founding member for over a year!👍

  • @danneff6693
    @danneff6693 2 года назад

    Jomez live ?!?

  • @yakcoffee
    @yakcoffee 2 года назад

    shoutout for the no spoiler thumbnails!

  • @jentrycarrier1695
    @jentrycarrier1695 2 года назад +1

    Paul throws a bad forehand on 3 and jerm says nothing about it 😮

  • @nurse5645
    @nurse5645 2 года назад +4

    Am I the only one who doesn't really care what the purse size is? It seems like all disc golf talks about anymore is money. "Grow the sport" has become "grow our wallets". I'm not against them making money at all. I'm just against them talking about it so much.

    • @levi6427
      @levi6427 2 года назад

      . "Grow the maturity, decision making , and self responsibility of humanity".

    • @eristicfreethinker2098
      @eristicfreethinker2098 2 года назад +3

      It’s vital to these players and future players making a living. By promoting the growth in purses, they make it more attractive for other sponsors to jump in. Relax, making money is not evil.

  • @crunchy_dg1191
    @crunchy_dg1191 2 года назад

    "Gannon is the best putter in the world and I don't think anyone could argue that"
    Okay counterpoint:
    As of October 2nd, Andrew Marwede was 92.4% from C1X, and second place was McMahon at 89.8%.
    Gannon was 1st in C2 putts at 37.1% with Marwede RIGHT behind him at 36.7%.

    • @mylubs3
      @mylubs3 2 года назад

      Gotta factor in situation to “best putter” designation. Putts made on 10th card vs lead or 2nd car carry diff level of pressure. Did Marwede earn enough points to make this event? Anyway… stats wise, i get it.

    • @crunchy_dg1191
      @crunchy_dg1191 2 года назад

      @@mylubs3 I see what you mean, but I disagree. "pressure" isn't a stat IMO. Poor Marwede's tee to green was just bad-bad for a tour player. haha 3% higher than the next guy in C1X is a big deal at that level

  • @curdit9
    @curdit9 2 года назад +2

    They should carry over scores from the semis so it becomes a two day tournament for the final four players.

  • @jackreagan2081
    @jackreagan2081 2 года назад

    Tried watching the DGN coverage and it was soooooo bad...... they missed tee shits, put the fly by after people threw, and couldn't seem to make any decent commentary other than a bit of what Sexton said..... Jomez, you guys are the best by miles...

    • @CJski
      @CJski 2 года назад

      Not to mention, twice as much ads as disc golf. Horrible video quality and camera work.

  • @markenders
    @markenders 2 года назад

    First

  • @jasoneddy9111
    @jasoneddy9111 2 года назад

    first?

  • @urbaniv
    @urbaniv 2 года назад

    Just to much "important" events. I mean what the difference to the world championships?

    • @devinwat
      @devinwat 2 года назад

      For one, the prize money.

    • @cloverleafkeef
      @cloverleafkeef 2 года назад

      This doesn't have a stroke play style of Tournament like Worlds, This is based on total points culminated throughout the whole season

  • @gavinfleagle5159
    @gavinfleagle5159 2 года назад +2

    Buhr messing with Robinson a bit on hole 8 does not seem like it was received in a playful way. Obviously friends, but you can't mess with a guy on the lead card in an event like this. Keep it to a playful banter.

    • @topias9689
      @topias9689 2 года назад +1

      I think you are just being overly dramatic. Didnt see anything that bad. Just normal teen bantering

    • @catnip8763
      @catnip8763 2 года назад +1

      They are friends..

    • @GPO_Studios
      @GPO_Studios 2 года назад +1

      Yeah that looked kinda weird. I bet they're totally cool with each other off the course, especially both having the same sponsor, but the middle of a $35K round is not the time/place for that kind of horseplay.

    • @gavinfleagle5159
      @gavinfleagle5159 2 года назад

      It's nothing that affects their friendship, but it's an interesting moment when Buhr is clearly being playful and Robinson is noticeably upset. True though, I can't speculate how Robinson takes shenanigans on the lead card of the biggest event of the year.

    • @isaacrobinson9572
      @isaacrobinson9572 2 года назад +3

      I’m so glad someone finally pointed this incident out. What seemed like friendly banter really messed with my head and I can attribute my loss to what happened on this hole. And unfortunately as a result Gannon and I are no longer friends.

  • @sparkynate91
    @sparkynate91 2 года назад

    I wouldn't go as far as to say Ricky is the best... I would say he and Paul are tied for sure but giving paul the edge though... Yes Rick has 4 ES wins this year where Paul has 1. But Paul put on a clinic alongside eagle this year at the European open where they both shot record tournament scores but paul lost by 1 stroke at 41 under which i bet will not be touched in quite some time for a 2nd place finish at that course and Ricky got 12th at a measly -16 a cool 25 strokes worse than Paul... Paul won worlds where Rick placed 11th. Paul got 4th at usdgc where Rick got 7th. And Rick won this where Paul got 4th... what I want to see, is a tournament where it is just these 2 and they go head to head and battle it out over like 2 or 3 days... let's get this discussion of who's the best done with