Good. He greatly performed another interpretation of the character. It probably wouldn't be half as good if he just tried to imitate Hopkins' interpretation.
IMO, Mads naturally has a cold look & vibe: which takes it to another level. Whereas Hopkins version stressed his superior intelligence more than his psychopathy.
Yess! When my friend first saw that line we laughed so hard! “Is your social worker in that horse? What about THAT horse? Which horse is your social worker in??”
The best part of this show is definitely Hannibal and Will's relationship. It's so strange, its so hard to define. Mikkelsen and Dancy absolutely devoured - pun intended - these characters and delivered two of my favourite performances in TV history.
I never felt it was love. It felt like to me that it was Hannibal looking for his own kind to connect with & seeing something in Will he could exploit & corrupt to bind Will to him.
Season 3 has the funniest line in the entire show "Do you know what happens if we stimulate your prostate gland with a cattle prod? Hannibal does. He helped us milk you." it felt so out of place any time I hear it it breaks me haha
Oh my GOD i was so young when i watched the show that i never realized what that actually meant, i just thought it was more poetic stuff i didn't understand Ok, not young, more just clueless. Somehow the tons of fanfics i consumed after the show didn't clue me in to this line in particular either
@@pears263 lol yeah I was definitely too young to be watching it. But a lot of fandom experience back in those days were being clueless and stumbling through, admiring other fans older than me who I thought knew everything. I was around 13, 14 ish, not the worst learning experience
@@megancress1384 some of the imagery show should not be seen by anyone who isn’t fully developed. It is definitely up there for some of the worst television content you could have seen during development years.
Hannibal's "Murder Husbands" dynamic was just really so well done and captivating. I could never look away when Mikkelsen and Dancy were on screen together, whether they were battling it out verbally or physically or if they were just sharing a meal together. This show made "therapy" as interesting as the killer of the week story lines (which is saying something, because those murders were a bit too creative sometimes).
the hannibal fandom may be small but they're passionate, to this day you find blogs dedicated to the show as though it never ended. whole community of people who still hold out hope that the show will return to the small screen
i have no frame of refrence how large the hannibal fandom got outside of tumblr, but on tumblr in 2013 it hit the site like a bomb. i think the fannibals dominated its cult fandom because of how much the outside show stuff catered to the fannibals. in a lot of those things the staff wears flowercrowns because they were popular with the tumblr user base at the time
@@eviltbaderson7341 i remember it being the new kid on the block, suddenly everyone knew about it. as 2013 was peak superwholock era, it was small but it hit a lot of the notes tumblr users loved. the dark cinematography, the humour, and the subtexual queer characters. to the already existing fans of shows like sherlock, which was at that point in its golden age and hiatus, it gave them a rebound show as character comparisons are easy to draw.
@@eviltbaderson7341 sadly its not that big, that's why it was cancelled... its crazy to me that a show that is this perfect can be seen by a such of small portion of people
EXACTLY ME. I HATED that man when he was first introduced, and then there was just an episode where all of the sudden I realized I was loving him and all his bitchy nonsense
I feel like Hugh dancys acting was off putting. One dimensional im-always-on-the-borderline-of-breakingdown. This is ok if you had moments when he has more normal moments. Then those moments when he's about to break down are more impactful. They almost tried in season three when they gave will a family, but even that was minimal effort and not believable
There were hints that Will and Hannibal's relationship was way more than enemies, friends or a twisted bromance. The show did not hammer the motive of the characters into your mind, instead it forced you to look at the details. Example, Will stated Hannibal alienated or killed anyone in Will's life that was not Hannibal himself. Hannibal replies he only wants what is best for him. Hannibal was telling Will, right there, that only Hannibal was best for him. Will was anti-social, even shying away from Jack when they first meant. His first meeting with Hannibal he was far more open and communicative. After that the only person Will looked in the eyes was Hannibal. Bedelia pointed out that Hannibal was in love with him. At end of the Mason arc Will let Hannibal leave with no strings attached. Mads and Hugh did an incredible job showing how these two were soulmates, toxic, but they loved each other the best they could. There was not need for them to kiss or have a sex scene, like you said the show clearly showed sex didn't mean love.
@@rewer creator saying something after the show ends means nothing. They're written like emotionally co-dependent soul mates. Literally the only evidence of physical intimacy between them is at the very last scene of the show. Also Will Graham has zero evidence of being gay throughout the entire run of the show. Hannibal generally just acts asexual except in cases where he can get something from someone.
I recall thinking Will's fatherly behaviour toward Abigail was because he just didn't want her to feel as alone as he felt and consequently become something like him, or her actual father. But now I wonder if he wasn't just doing it because at the time he mistakenly thought it was what he was supposed to do when one kills someone's dad: become that Dad. Which, in many ways, he sort of does become specifically Abigail's Dad, with the whole murder/crazy thing he's convinced he's committed (to). In retrospect, I'm not sure how I came to either of those conclusions.
Well, he does collect stray dogs and Hannibal does ask him if she's yet another stray to which Will isn't really able to answer. Probably because at the time he was sick and he has several moments in season 1 where it does seem like he feels because he killed Hobbs and got too close to replicate his mind that he had times he felt like he was becoming him even before Hannibal framed him. I think Fuller said it best when he joined a review of the season 2 finale, if you accept that the show operates more on dream logic rather than being literally true. Will is shown to view all of his imagined realities and outcomes of his choices to all be equally valid things to do and that he himself doesn't fully understand why he does what he does until the moment is fully presented to him. Even some of his choices like dreaming about killing Hannibal and yet saving him when he had the chance with Mason having strung him up, or hoping that warning Hannibal would make him run rather than try to kill Jack. At least I got the feeling that was because Will had replaced Hobbs with Hannibal in his mind. Where he does certain things because "he's curious about what would happen". The one thing that didn't make the most sense to me even from a dream logic view is, when Will finds Hannibal in season 3, what made him try to kill Hannibal before he was shot? Was it because he was injured after Jack almost killed Hannibal so that he felt if he was going to do it that would be the best chance he would have? Did he think Hannibal was going to do the exact same to him? Because we know Hannibal stabbed Will in season 2 without killing him so that Hannibal could get his vacation while Will recovered. Yes, in his conversation with Bedelia Hannbail concludes and says that he would have to eat Will to forgive him. But, and I could be completely wrong about this, I got the sense that Hannibal started cutting into Will's head because Will tried to kill him, when Will as Hannibal says "you forgive as God forgives". Hannibal knows that eventually he's been going on such a reckless rampage that he's going to get caught by somebody, but he never really tries to kill Will again, just his family. Wanting Will to have nothing else in his life that isn't him, trying to give Will another chance to accept his "rare gift". And with the post credit scene where we see there are two seats at the table, it very much implies that not only did Will and Hannibal survive, Will must have decided them surviving meant he could no longer stop. Even a deleted scene showing them going to church together. Too bad they couldn't have used Clarice on the show, if you change her character a bit to make it fit the show. It could be interesting to have her, Jack, Alana and Margot be the ones on search for the both of them. With Clarice acting as the crazy expert the way Will was in season 1 and Hannibal was at the first half of season 2.
To me the whole thing with the lines blurring between Will and the killers because of his empathy he often feels like he is them, and their wants and needs influence his. And when he killed Hobbs he was impacted so much he almost adopted aspects of Hobbs? If you get me? And a large aspect was being Abigail’s father, he had empathised enough to imagine loving your daughter so much you’d murder her and others at the thought of her leaving and that protectiveness imprinted on Will
I always thought Will felt fatherly toward Abigail because he had a soft spot in his heart for collecting stray dogs, which with Abigail newly orphaned, makes sense. Will always considered himself a stray too, never knowing his mother and always moving place to place, always being a stranger. I think his attachment to Abigail is fully justified, but maybe not fully apparent on a first watch through.
Also, to add to the stray dog metaphor, Will has a tendency to care for the mistreated. Georgia Madchen in season 1 and Peter Bernardone in season 2 are two victims that Will attaches to. He's empathetic and strives for connections with people like him / what he sees himself as.
I think in Hannibal's mind, he was guiding Will into a journey through Hell, Purgotory and Paradise as he sets his mind on fire(literally Hell incarnate), abducts Abigail Hobbs( as we know Dante finds his beloved Beatrice in purgatory) and finally to get to live with Will and Abigail happily ever after in Paradise, only to find out about Will's true intentions. He denies him of his Paradise and decides to sacrifice it in front of Will's eyes...as if the gates of heaven are closed to him forever. And throughout the season 3 We see will trying to salvage his way to heaven once more only this time, he has to gain his passing through unconditional Love! I'm basing this on Hannibal's total fetishization of Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy since in season 1 we saw him crying in the Opera( a rare scene actually when he gets truly emotional) which is based on Dante's journey through hell. Love to know your opinion on it, in the comments!
@@BadBloodwillout In Hannibal's mind he is always playing God...As he himself said it when he kills most of the time he thinks about God. So I have to agree on that with you. He may not do it conciousnly, but he is playing God nonetheless.
Thematically you could say each season represents those. S1 is Hell for sure as the descent into madness of everything Will was experiencing as were we watching him suffer at the hands of the Devil himself S2 is Purgatory with Will knowing who the Devil is and fighting to get out while also still being stuck in his thrall and S3 is Heaven with him ascending out of the madness of Hannibals shit until the end when he embraces him lovingly as they both go over the edge together. I never even thought about it until you said that. Fuck this show needs to be studied in film courses AND psychology courses worldwide. So damn good
The way Mads mikkelsen played Hannibal has cemented in my mind that we may never see a Hannibal as brilliant. I love Anthony Hopkins, always will, but Mads IS Hannibal in this show. It’s such an exceptional performance.
I always feel the odd one out because S3 is actually my favorite. I do think it drags just a little bit in the middle of the first half(it's true that Chiyoh never really does come together), but I love the arc and it's pretension anyway. I fully adore the back half. I will, though, disagree about Alana in S3. That's when just I started to find her interesting. I found her pretty boring in the first two seasons, especially season 2.
I find the S3 kinda forceful.. Liked they could have incorporated better with hannibal, will and the guy with dragon tattoo.. BUT then again, i understood they have to tiptoe clarice without mentioning clarice..
Season 3 isn't my favourite, but other than that I fully agree with you. Alana in S3 is so much better, and while the first 3 episodes of the season are slow (because they wanted to drag out the character reveals), by episode 4 the show is back to being incredible
The S3 opener is one of my favorite episodes of the show, but aside from that... most episodes drag, especially compared to S2's perfect pacing. Alana is absolutely great. I love her in all seasons, but seeing her being badass in S3 felt very nice.
It's a shame that Hannibal was canceled after only three seasons, and yet Lucifer got a total of six seasons on Netflix when it definitely should've ended earlier.
I have liked and loved other crime and psychological series but with NBC's Hannibal, I fell in love with it the moment Will Graham said-- "This is my design."
I'm impressed with the gruesomeness of the images you were allowed to use. *knocks on wood Thank you for doing the whole series. It makes want to rewatch.
“Gaslight gatekeep gastronomy” LOL i love Bedelia because i read her as completely petrified. Every word and gesture is carefully measured to keep her off Hannibal’s table. He won’t let her quit the mindgames, and each move could be her last. In Season 2 she’s living in the lion’s den while being literally made of delicious steaks, and i read Gillian Anderson’s performance as almost delerious with terror, holding herself to the knife’s edge she’s walking. If she came across as “petrified wood” to some, I’m sorry it took away from the show for them
Ok, I get where you're coming from with Bedelia, but let me play devil's advocate for a moment: I will always have a soft spot for Bedelia because of Antipasto. That whole episode treats her like an audience surrogate, and while she shows no strong emotions and appears detached, we can also see that she's constantly speculating and wondering about Lecter. Her face when Professor Sogliato starts being aggressively rude, or when Lecter invites Dimmond to his lecture on Dante shows exactly what she's thinking, and her surprise when Lecter appears to spare Dimmond, and denies any interest in killing Sogliato reflects the surprise of the audience. The "Observe or Participate" scene forces her to recognize that her curiosity and observation are in fact forms of participation, and that then forces the audience to a similar realization. This is a slap in the face that we couldn't have gotten from Will. For Will, observing has always been linked to participation. He sees a crime scene and imagines himself creating it. Bedelia tricked herself into thinking she was an innocent observer, which might explain her detached demeanor. Her shock and quiet horror as Lecter rips down her defenses and she realizes how implicated she is lands perfectly for me, and it imbues the same horror in me as I realize that I'm no better than she is. It's a beautiful and masterful blurring of the divide between the show and the audience and I adore it!
i agree. bedelia is a great, nuanced character who toys with issues of audience voyeurism and participation in a horror series. i think the writing off of her by the video is a little, dare i say it, sexist
I loved the design elements of the crime scenes in Hannibal. Each one felt so unique and it really made them seem like the killer had taken the time and really put thought into what they wanted to show. My favorite one was the beach corpse totem pole. I'd love it if you could do a retrospective on the son's of anarchy series.
It's not flawless but honestly I would classify Hannibal as a masterpiece of television. It's a miracle that this show was able to get away with three seasons of television on a platform that was just simply old-fashioned TV and not streaming or HBO
Excellent video, as Hannibal would say, “I love your work 🙃”. My only different take was on Abigail, I felt it was a fairly straightforward jump for them to feel paternal or in better words responsible. She was fated to be Hobbs last victim, and by saving her life Will in a sense took responsibility for it.
I find your point about chiyoh and bedelia being mostly redundant interesting - you're right, that them saying "oh Hannibal's in my head too!" cheapens Will's struggle a bit, but I think it also shows something else - Hannibal has *tried* this before. he's tried to make connections and make people see the world how he sees it. but they've never really surrendered. chiyoh and bedelia indulge in violence somewhat, but Hannibal is never really successful with them to the degree he is with changing will. I think it almost reinforces that will and Hannibal are each other's violent match
the strongest thing for me is the strange nature of hannibal and wills relationship. I don’t find it that controversial that will doesn’t “reciprocate”. Everything Hannibal wanted for Will, Will made a reality for Hannibal. it’s so twisted and beautiful. This show is definitely carried by Mads’ and Hugh’s performance, and I absolutely adored Chilton. Im surprised your channel isn’t bigger lol you’re very concise and and media literate.
It's a poetic horror show. Love the level of the class presented by Brian Fuller. I had to go back and watch the movies, which I had not before, just to compare Anthony Hopkins and Mads Mickelsen, the latter did not even come close to giving me any chance of criticism. I am a permanent fan of his now.
It's the 'art' aesthetic of the murder scenes which adds another level to it. Hannibal's taste for art & culture is reflected in the grandiosity & 'display' element of the murder scenes. That he's refined, elegant, cultured & loves art etc makes him different & more horrifying than the usual serial killer.
It's not zero emotion, it's called being numb. Very real after the psychological scars Hannibal left them with. Have you ever seen a woman or child in an abusive home?
the food scenes are honestly immaculate. the level of detail, the effort put in. it is an impeccable example of show don't tell when it comes both to hannibal's excellence as a gourmand and is totally psychopathic relationship to his victims. they are MEAT. we don't need him to monologue about it, we see it and it is a sick delight. i think also there is so much black comedy in the food scenes: you are simultaneously disgusted and enticed as a viewer, made complicit as a voyeur to this beauty and this horror, which is simply a stroke of genius
it might be just bc gillian anderson was my gay awakening but I never got tired of her in hannibal - if you read her as constantly off her tits wine drunk the whole character has this great quality and some of the most comedic lines (also season 3 alana never read as emotionless to me, although I did have a problem with the whole trauma making a character cold and strong trope that we've seen a million times, and would have loved if she'd retained more of her earlier compassion and used that as a strength)
@@aintnolittlegirl9322 oh most definitely, the bitchy back and forth they had going on was absolutely hilarious! the fact that most of her lines to Will amounted to "you want to fuck that old man so bad it makes you look stupid" just makes it even better lmao. Also I love Bedelia (Gillian Anderson was part of my queer awakening as well so that helps)
I think Will's paternal feelings towards Abigail don't need more explanation. He was using his ability to put himself in her dad's place and killing him set him off-kilter. I think he may take on that father figure role not only because he feels responsible, but also because he got stuck on it? Regarding Miriam's brain washing, I can buy it, trauma can allow for that kind of thing, and her experience was pretty traumatic. I agree the rest doesn't make a lot of sense, though, but it's fun and very well done, so it's easy to ignore the flaws, as you said. I don't think having Chiyo and Bedelia be influenced by Hannibal cheapens what he is doing to Will. As I see it, it shows that Hannibal is unable to form a connection with other people, and tries to do that by manipulating others, either to be like him or fear him to the point of not going against him. But with will is different, because Will is able to understand Hannibal, but he doesn't try to imitate him completely like Gideon did. It's like Hannibal drove Will into madness to see what happened, and helped WIll develop his dark side, while with other people he was just influencing their actions by provoking admiration or fear. I think Bedelia joined Hannibal out of fear, and Hannibal took Bedelia just to build a new image. She was his cover (his beard, dare I say). Hannibal was just using her, and she was scared, and maybe a bit hopeful that by playing along she would be able to escape somehow.
I would love to see another season but the last season, in itself, gives a really good conclusion to the whole story. As much as I love the relationship between Hannibal and Will, season 3 is potentially the perfect ending, if they died after jumping off. Hannibal has always been portrayed as someone who thinks differently (i mean cmon, killing is art for him and he eats people) and any kind of love you get from that man is just outright destructive in general. But since we are seeing the show in the eyes of Will, we eventually came to understand Hannibal's nature and accepted him and his love. Will is a monster like him so they understood each other better than anyone else. A kiss on that cliff wouldnt have worked for me too. Since, again, Hannibal for me is someone who loves in an entirely different way. That murder duo they did to Dolarhyde was already the "kiss" from their twisted love story. Them jumping off that cliff, if season 3 was THE finale, was a GREAT ending to the whole show cause despite Will's awakening as a killer, he still was able to choose the right course of action to kill both him and his love, stopping their insanity before they could bring it to the outside world.
there’s a post credit scene that shows a table set for three people, with bedelia sitting at the head of it, her own leg served in front of her. since there were three plates it was heavily implied that hannibal and will had both survived, and bryan fuller eventually confirmed it.
I agree the s3 finale would be a beautiful and perfect ending, but to me it doesn't matter whether they live or not tbh, or if only the other survives. I think it adds to the magic of the show, it leaves you to wonder. There's so many possibilities! I've spend so much time thinking about the tragedy of only one of them surviving, them both sailing off into the sunset together and the idea of them sinking to the sea floor together. I can't remember who it was or where, but I saw someone describe how they imagined that Hannibal and Will both died, and instead of ever getting to consume each other, they now lay on the sea floor equally powerless, getting consumed my sea critters and salt water. Wow!
The only show i've ever binged watched and fell in love with. I really wish Abigail and Beverly didn't die. I was so sad in the beginning of S3 when it was revealed that Will was dreaming about Abigail joining him in Italy. If they do a season 4 it'd be nice to see some flashback scenes featuring them. Same with Georgia Madchen
I don't agree with the chiyoh part. She's there to give us Hannibal's backstory about Mischa and to tie in elements from the fourth book (the castle, Hannibal avenging Mischa etc). And to show Will that Hannibal can care about other people (since he seems to be unclear about that) and be influenced (there are means of influence other than violence etc etc). Plus I don't think she's there to replace Beverly, the two are very different characters. Also she's there to serve as will in place of Will (ie Will is toying with her the way Hannibal was toying with him, after she kills the imprisoned guy.) I don't like that particular plot point but it's there, and he's doing it because she's someone Hannibal loves- noone else could be that. I can see the cynical pov that she's just there to be a token asian now that you pointed it out but I don't really buy it. Especially because she is a character from the books, and her presence is most of the Hannibal Rising-driven parts we get. I have a love/hate relationship with the episode she's introduced. I also find it tedious like you. But visually it's one of my favorites. All in all I agree that season 3 was a bit of a drag with pretentiousness off the roof, but with some huge payoffs. I found the lack of emoting also offputing and gravitated towards Jack more this season than the previous ones. But I would not call the female characters boring, I liked Chiyo as a whole and I think Alana and Bedelia do a lot of the heavy lifting actually, even though the character changes were noticable. Honestly Will gives me the most trouble this season. Though I love him.
Hannibal is just salty that Mischa was fed to him from evil people so he is using his supernatural gifts as revenge against God or whatever by doing it the same to the other people after getting the "curse of wendigo" that made him crave endlessly of human flesh. Thats it thats the character LoL
@@luiousy7329 that's certainly one interpretation... but i really must disagree here. being fed mischa is one element of his backstory that makes his character so compelling and mysterious, but also one that is purposely left vague, cf."nothing happened to me, I happened". he doesn't crave human flesh, hell, that's the sickest part of him, he sees the people as ordinary slabs of meat--except he gets a twisted pleasure out of feeding them to other people. mischa is his catalyst for his "revenge against God" as you put it, the collapse of morality and goodness and the replacement with his petty cruelty, but her consumption isn't plaguing him to continue eating other humans.
Great analysis/discussion! I disagree on some points but agree on others. 1. I would say Will focusing on Abigail is very in character, ala the stray dogs and him attaching to mistreated victims. I believe him feeling 'paternal' is just a struggle in his attempt for normalcy. Of course, his connection with Abigail consists mainly in his head, which is kinda funny to think about. 2. The 'chess-master' moves never took me out of the show because everything by that point was so hyperrealistic. Understood why it could be a lil' bit too much, but it was one of my favorite plot twists. 3. Fully agreed with Mason! He was a wonderful foil to Will and Hannibal. 4. A easily missed thing about S3 Alana is that bone marrow got into her blood after the S2 finale -- leading her to act differently. In S3A, she is a combination of a lot of different characters from the books, and her character does not benefit from that. I prefer her in S3B more than S3A, where I feel like they finally got a grasp on this 'new, traumatized' Alana. 5. Jack Crawford is underrated. He's excellent. 6. Chiyoh is definitely a weird character to me. Introducing a bare glimpse into Hannibal's past with her just raises much, much more questions. 7. Bedelia is an interesting character to me. She is curious and manipulative and arrogant yet not completely devoid of morals.
this is the first hannibal review that i've ever 100% agreed with. between you noticing arcs, metaphors, problem/token characters, and actually head-on addressing the homoeroticism, you did not miss a *BEAT*
this show is literally the most wild thing I’ve ever seen it’s ridiculous and has lots of flaws but inexplicably is one of my favorite shows of all time
I will say fuller had his back up against the wall particularly with season three as it was green light extremely late and there are stories that he was making up everything as they were shooting basically. I’m sure if he had time to actually plan season three would’ve been more solid
@@hopekeeley2122 They actually had a plan for 7-8 seasons. The problem was that they couldn't get the rights for an important character to further the show, Clarice. There was a big drama about it, but Brian never managed to convince The writers of the first Hannibal movies to give it up to him. It really sucks because Brian went into what might have happened and it sounded amazing
This show will always be my number 1 favorite show of all time. The performances are striking and memorable, the storyline is engaging and has the viewer interested in the outcome and oh my God the beautiful death scenes.
this show is hauntingly beautiful and so well written and acted that sometimes you forget how grotesque and evil it is at its core. the relationship between will and graham and all the homoeroticism that comes from it is so well done that it can be difficult to pick your side from episode to episode. the supporting cast are also fulfilling and drive the plot in their own ways. yes, the show has its weaknesses, but the strengths make up for them far and away. it’s just a shame it had to end when it did
Season 2 is like Empire Strikes Back, darker and bolder than the first, with a heroes lose ending, and it’s damn near perfect. Season 3 is (kinda) like Return of the Jedi, not as consistent as the last one but has the highest highs of the whole story, even if there’s a little bit of bullshit thrown in.
Season 3 is also like Jedi in that my favorite part is when they all team up to fight a gross villain in his lair who has a nasty plot to torture them to death
"BoRiNg, eMoTiOnLeSs women when it should have been a Boys' trip." I don't think I've ever gotten such a clear picture of a channel in one succinct sentence than in this instance🤣
When Slip compliments a show, it immediately gets added to my to-watch list. Great work, this one is up there with the Terriers and Pushing Daisies reviews; oh, and I still put the Dexter video on repeat when I'm chilling or studying. Watching your videos is like getting to rewatching your favourite TV show, but as a bystander on the set of the production: You get to live through all the hits, but from a completely different dimension. This channel really is a diamond in a rough, but damn it if I'm tired of people having to dig for it. I can't believe millions sub to people like Chris Stuckmann that literally read the wikipedia article of the show/movie while a channel like this exists. If you ever set up a Patreon, you can count me in.
okay something about chiyo; i recently read “hannibal rising”, a prequel to everything else, explaining Hannibal’s past and how he got where he did. Chiyo is actually a pretty important character if we consider that (she was in the book many times and so was another important character related to her who isnt in the show) and yes the man did kill and eat his sister, Mischa, during WW2. That’s all :)
Many of the decisions that were made in the plotting of this series cannot be understood without understanding its relationship to the books. The makers could not get the rights to Silence of the Lambs, and therefore to the characters of Clarice Starling and Buffalo Bill. The series makers were intent on including everything though, and as it happens they managed to include every single set piece and great line from Silence of the Lambs in the Hannibal series by giving them to other characters. Some of the scenes and characters whose presence seems inexplicable are there because they were in one of the books -- Chiloh from Hannibal Rising, and Dolarhyde, Reba, and Freddie Lounds from the original Red Dragon. If they had more time they might have split S3 into two more seasons, but after even that imaginary S4 I can't see the series continuing; they had thoroughly mined, sifted, and used all of the source material, and there really wasn't a lot of original stuff in there; almost every scene in the entire series was homage to something that Thomas Harris wrote in the novels.
Can anybody remember what that Tumblr(?) account was that had a random "Hannibal Statement" generator? It was AMAZING. Just random, everyday stuff (laundry, toast, changing a tire) but in Hannibal's trademark poetic, deep philosophical verbiage.
Season 1 and 2 remainds me a lot of Interview with the Vampire, Hannibal and Will as Lestat and Louis, Abigail is Claudia of course and Bedelia/Alana as Armand.
Someone once said this show was like...elevated camp, and I think that might describe it perfectly? It's beautiful and well written but also crazy as hell. I think Chiyo was meant as a nod to Hannibal's past movie wise. I'm unsure of in the books, but in the movies, he had a Japanese family member. So I think that might have been it? While it is icky that they killed off one of the women of color on the show, it's a free for all and a lot of people die, not just woc. The fandom was upset because we got to know Bev and love her, coupled with the fact that she was one of the few people of color. So it was a mix of things in my opinion. I've been sniffing around the fandom for a few years and have seen many takes on it, though. Will and Hannibal's relationship was one of the most fascinating and beautiful things about the show. Watching them blur together and change each other was just *chef's kiss*! I wanted more, but mostly to see how things could have progressed further. It's obvious that Hannibal comes to be in love with Will and to see how that could have continued to play out as Will explores what HE feels in return past kinship would have been nice.
That finale was exquisite!!! I remember watching it when it come out and just shaking with excitement! And the ending... Wow... It's been a long time since a show manage to capture me like this
30 seconds in and im already slapping my knee w/ the food network jokes and calling it a "culinary thriller" - you just earned a new subscriber - excited for the rest of this cause I know it's gonna be baller 😎
thank you for this the world needs more hannibal content 😭 i disagree on bedelia, not because i have an argument but because i’m in love with gillian anderson 💕
Why was 6 afraid of 7? It's a fairly common question, mostly because when people see 6 and 7 next to each other, it doesn't really make sense. 6 is large, muscled, and trained in multiple martial arts, while 7 is fairly average, physically, and short. However, 6's fear of 7 has its roots in childhood. See, 6 and 7 grew up together, and for a few years, they were best friends. But then 6 kissed 3, and they became childhood sweethearts. 7 secretly had feelings for 3, so 7 decided he needed to destroy 6 to win 3's affection. He started subtly, undermining 6 whenever possible with passive aggressive comments and compli-sults. But over time, things got much more insidious. 7 started messing with 6's performance in school, bringing down his grades and turning teachers against him. Even worse, 7 became great friends with 6's parents and slowly turned them against their own offspring. At night, 7 would sneak into 6's bedroom, and whisper depressing and hopeless things into his ears. Every time 3 was around, 7 would pants 6 and make fun of his genitalia, or try to body shame him in other ways. However, 3 was both smart and compassionate, and saw through 7's schemes, sticking with 6, trying to counter 7's psychological tear-down with compliments and friendship. Finally, 7 decided that he would never be able to win 3, so he drugged both 6 and 3, taking them to an abandoned cobbler's hut on the edge of town. There, he proceeded to torture and maim 3, forcing 6 to watch in horror, unable to do anything to save his sweetheart. 7 didn't kill 3, but instead, put her in a semi-vegetative state. 7 cleaned the scene of his prescence, then called the cops, having 6 blamed for 3's condition. 6 was sent to prison, believing 6 was guilty, 6's parents fell into a deep depression, eventually committing suicide over what they believed 6 had done. After serving 17 years of a 30 year sentence, and getting out on good behaviour, 6, now muscled and skilled as a fighter, thought he might get revenge on 7. But when he finally tracked down 7, he found out that 7 had installed a micro-bomb into 3's body, and should he be killed, the bomb would automatically go off and kill 3 as well. And though she was still in a mostly fugue state, 6 couldn't bring himself to hurt her any further, and decided to try and move on with his life. However, being an ex-con, it was difficult for him to get a job. 6 finally found employment at a diner, which 7 then bought, and proceeded to again undermine and toy with 6 at every turn. 6 tried to find employment elsewhere, but 7 contacted any potential employer and soured them against 6. 6 finally realized that no matter what he did, 7 was going to try and ruin his life, and he resigned himself to living as a broken, lonely man, never able to stand up to the depraved, amoral 7.
I haven't finished the last season but not bc I was getting bored but bc I didn't want it to end, I love this show so much. Two equally compelling leads with super fascinating relationship between them and gorgeous cinematography!
I encourage you to finish it, this is the most re-watchable show ever! To me it only got better every re-watch as the show is so complex I picked up on new things every time :)
I'm so happy you used Lil Friendys at the end. Those videos might be my favourite thing about season 3, and I can't think of Will Graham without saying "Willgrim" in my mind, just like Hamibal does.
I found your channel with a shared Love/Hate of Dexter. But I love your love of Hannibal. It’s one of the best shows I’ve binged this year. I’m sorry I waited so long….but I’m glad I didn’t have the long wait between episodes and seasons. Thanks for the laughs. 🤓👍
Fantastic retrospective of one of the greatest TV series ever to grace the screen! No idea if you take suggestions, but I would love to see a retrospective on one of the best and most underrated shows of the century: "Justified"
Tumblr and Twitter forcing such a major change only in season 3 seems hard to believe. Chances are they already had tentative plans at least that far for a successful series.
Brother I promise you I will share your channel name far and wide! It won't be much longer before you are known as one of the greats in the RUclips community!!! Excellent work!
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Mads Mikkelsen played Hannibal as if we were in an alternative reality in which Anthony Hopkins's version didn't exist.
I know right
Good. He greatly performed another interpretation of the character. It probably wouldn't be half as good if he just tried to imitate Hopkins' interpretation.
IMO, Mads naturally has a cold look & vibe: which takes it to another level. Whereas Hopkins version stressed his superior intelligence more than his psychopathy.
@@sarahholland2600 Mads really sold the psychopathy very well.
@@andrew20146 Definitely. He's just effortlessly chilling!
As grandiose and lavish and poetic as Hannibal is, nothing will ever be as funny as “…is your social worker in that horse?”
"I love your work" gets close though. :P
“Where’s Jack?”
“In the pantry.”
@@Epscylon ooh yes! Or "nothing here is vegetarian [WINK]"
Yess! When my friend first saw that line we laughed so hard! “Is your social worker in that horse? What about THAT horse? Which horse is your social worker in??”
nietzhchen fish always takes me out
The best part of this show is definitely Hannibal and Will's relationship. It's so strange, its so hard to define. Mikkelsen and Dancy absolutely devoured - pun intended - these characters and delivered two of my favourite performances in TV history.
I think it helps that they are good friends IRL, having met while filming King Arthur in 2004.
Very true!!
And I love the fact that the actors were already friends thanks to the King Arthur movie.
It’s amazing, the oddest combination of mania philia and Eros (obsession friendship and love, as defined by Plato) I will ever see.
The creator confirms they are lover in the series.
I never felt it was love. It felt like to me that it was Hannibal looking for his own kind to connect with & seeing something in Will he could exploit & corrupt to bind Will to him.
Season 3 has the funniest line in the entire show "Do you know what happens if we stimulate your prostate gland with a cattle prod? Hannibal does. He helped us milk you." it felt so out of place any time I hear it it breaks me haha
Oh my GOD i was so young when i watched the show that i never realized what that actually meant, i just thought it was more poetic stuff i didn't understand
Ok, not young, more just clueless. Somehow the tons of fanfics i consumed after the show didn't clue me in to this line in particular either
@@megancress1384 this show is is hard R rated 18+ I’m concerned how young you were 😂
@@pears263 lol yeah I was definitely too young to be watching it. But a lot of fandom experience back in those days were being clueless and stumbling through, admiring other fans older than me who I thought knew everything. I was around 13, 14 ish, not the worst learning experience
@@megancress1384 some of the imagery show should not be seen by anyone who isn’t fully developed. It is definitely up there for some of the worst television content you could have seen during development years.
@@samuelrichards5521 bitch I had fun. If you think kids should only watch Spongebob until they're 15 do that to your own kids.
"would require Hannibal to own and operate a forklift" bold of you to assume Hannibal didn't own and have a license for a forklift
Bold of YOU to assume that Hannibal, after breaking countless laws thus far, would draw the line at operating a forklift without certification
BOLD OF YOU TO ASSUME HE WOULDN’T FIND THAT RUDE
Crime scene art critics. Wow, that had me laughing. I've never heard a such succinct description of what their job actually entails.
Did you mean. Entrails?
@@doughyjoey_8742 no entails as in "involve"
@@Bacbi it was a gore joke.
@@doughyjoey_8742 Gotcha, hard to tell these days without emojis. Sometimes people are dead serious 🥁
@@Bacbi ha yeah I probably should've added a drum roll emoji. I miss this show!
Hannibal's "Murder Husbands" dynamic was just really so well done and captivating. I could never look away when Mikkelsen and Dancy were on screen together, whether they were battling it out verbally or physically or if they were just sharing a meal together. This show made "therapy" as interesting as the killer of the week story lines (which is saying something, because those murders were a bit too creative sometimes).
mads is so intoxicating. honestly it's such a good show
the hannibal fandom may be small but they're passionate, to this day you find blogs dedicated to the show as though it never ended. whole community of people who still hold out hope that the show will return to the small screen
i have no frame of refrence how large the hannibal fandom got outside of tumblr, but on tumblr in 2013 it hit the site like a bomb. i think the fannibals dominated its cult fandom because of how much the outside show stuff catered to the fannibals. in a lot of those things the staff wears flowercrowns because they were popular with the tumblr user base at the time
@@eviltbaderson7341 i remember it being the new kid on the block, suddenly everyone knew about it. as 2013 was peak superwholock era, it was small but it hit a lot of the notes tumblr users loved. the dark cinematography, the humour, and the subtexual queer characters. to the already existing fans of shows like sherlock, which was at that point in its golden age and hiatus, it gave them a rebound show as character comparisons are easy to draw.
It will never end!
Yep, I just found out about RBI’s series and im so in love with them
@@eviltbaderson7341 sadly its not that big, that's why it was cancelled... its crazy to me that a show that is this perfect can be seen by a such of small portion of people
This show is so weird because at one point I went from rolling my eyes whenever Chilton appeared to absolutely loving him.
That poor man SUFFERRED every damn season😭
Man can't catch a break I felt sorry for him😭
@@b.l7491 didn't Brian Fuller refair to him as the Kenny (from South Park) of the this show 😂
I loved him so much
Damn, death hated him
EXACTLY ME. I HATED that man when he was first introduced, and then there was just an episode where all of the sudden I realized I was loving him and all his bitchy nonsense
i feel like no one's talking about hugh dancy's acting. while i absolutely love mads's acting, hugh's was on another level.
Best performance of the show imo
I feel like Hugh dancys acting was off putting. One dimensional im-always-on-the-borderline-of-breakingdown. This is ok if you had moments when he has more normal moments. Then those moments when he's about to break down are more impactful. They almost tried in season three when they gave will a family, but even that was minimal effort and not believable
There were hints that Will and Hannibal's relationship was way more than enemies, friends or a twisted bromance. The show did not hammer the motive of the characters into your mind, instead it forced you to look at the details. Example, Will stated Hannibal alienated or killed anyone in Will's life that was not Hannibal himself. Hannibal replies he only wants what is best for him. Hannibal was telling Will, right there, that only Hannibal was best for him. Will was anti-social, even shying away from Jack when they first meant. His first meeting with Hannibal he was far more open and communicative. After that the only person Will looked in the eyes was Hannibal. Bedelia pointed out that Hannibal was in love with him. At end of the Mason arc Will let Hannibal leave with no strings attached. Mads and Hugh did an incredible job showing how these two were soulmates, toxic, but they loved each other the best they could. There was not need for them to kiss or have a sex scene, like you said the show clearly showed sex didn't mean love.
Creator confirmed it
Creator said they are lover.
“…they loved each other as best they could.” Yes, that’s it; that’s the love.
I always imagined that killing the dragon together was like sex to them
@@rewer creator saying something after the show ends means nothing. They're written like emotionally co-dependent soul mates. Literally the only evidence of physical intimacy between them is at the very last scene of the show. Also Will Graham has zero evidence of being gay throughout the entire run of the show. Hannibal generally just acts asexual except in cases where he can get something from someone.
I love how the series starts off like a procedural police drama and then goes horrifyingly off-rails. Must watch.
Infinitely rewatchable
Funniest thing about Bedelia to me is that she gets quieter in every scene, to the point where it’s just whispers.
I recall thinking Will's fatherly behaviour toward Abigail was because he just didn't want her to feel as alone as he felt and consequently become something like him, or her actual father. But now I wonder if he wasn't just doing it because at the time he mistakenly thought it was what he was supposed to do when one kills someone's dad: become that Dad. Which, in many ways, he sort of does become specifically Abigail's Dad, with the whole murder/crazy thing he's convinced he's committed (to). In retrospect, I'm not sure how I came to either of those conclusions.
Well, he does collect stray dogs and Hannibal does ask him if she's yet another stray to which Will isn't really able to answer. Probably because at the time he was sick and he has several moments in season 1 where it does seem like he feels because he killed Hobbs and got too close to replicate his mind that he had times he felt like he was becoming him even before Hannibal framed him.
I think Fuller said it best when he joined a review of the season 2 finale, if you accept that the show operates more on dream logic rather than being literally true. Will is shown to view all of his imagined realities and outcomes of his choices to all be equally valid things to do and that he himself doesn't fully understand why he does what he does until the moment is fully presented to him. Even some of his choices like dreaming about killing Hannibal and yet saving him when he had the chance with Mason having strung him up, or hoping that warning Hannibal would make him run rather than try to kill Jack. At least I got the feeling that was because Will had replaced Hobbs with Hannibal in his mind. Where he does certain things because "he's curious about what would happen".
The one thing that didn't make the most sense to me even from a dream logic view is, when Will finds Hannibal in season 3, what made him try to kill Hannibal before he was shot? Was it because he was injured after Jack almost killed Hannibal so that he felt if he was going to do it that would be the best chance he would have? Did he think Hannibal was going to do the exact same to him? Because we know Hannibal stabbed Will in season 2 without killing him so that Hannibal could get his vacation while Will recovered. Yes, in his conversation with Bedelia Hannbail concludes and says that he would have to eat Will to forgive him. But, and I could be completely wrong about this, I got the sense that Hannibal started cutting into Will's head because Will tried to kill him, when Will as Hannibal says "you forgive as God forgives". Hannibal knows that eventually he's been going on such a reckless rampage that he's going to get caught by somebody, but he never really tries to kill Will again, just his family. Wanting Will to have nothing else in his life that isn't him, trying to give Will another chance to accept his "rare gift". And with the post credit scene where we see there are two seats at the table, it very much implies that not only did Will and Hannibal survive, Will must have decided them surviving meant he could no longer stop. Even a deleted scene showing them going to church together. Too bad they couldn't have used Clarice on the show, if you change her character a bit to make it fit the show. It could be interesting to have her, Jack, Alana and Margot be the ones on search for the both of them. With Clarice acting as the crazy expert the way Will was in season 1 and Hannibal was at the first half of season 2.
To me the whole thing with the lines blurring between Will and the killers because of his empathy he often feels like he is them, and their wants and needs influence his. And when he killed Hobbs he was impacted so much he almost adopted aspects of Hobbs? If you get me? And a large aspect was being Abigail’s father, he had empathised enough to imagine loving your daughter so much you’d murder her and others at the thought of her leaving and that protectiveness imprinted on Will
It is discussed in one of his sessions with hannibal, they talked about their responsibility to Abigail
I always thought Will felt fatherly toward Abigail because he had a soft spot in his heart for collecting stray dogs, which with Abigail newly orphaned, makes sense. Will always considered himself a stray too, never knowing his mother and always moving place to place, always being a stranger. I think his attachment to Abigail is fully justified, but maybe not fully apparent on a first watch through.
Also, to add to the stray dog metaphor, Will has a tendency to care for the mistreated. Georgia Madchen in season 1 and Peter Bernardone in season 2 are two victims that Will attaches to. He's empathetic and strives for connections with people like him / what he sees himself as.
I think in Hannibal's mind, he was guiding Will into a journey through Hell, Purgotory and Paradise as he sets his mind on fire(literally Hell incarnate), abducts Abigail Hobbs( as we know Dante finds his beloved Beatrice in purgatory) and finally to get to live with Will and Abigail happily ever after in Paradise, only to find out about Will's true intentions. He denies him of his Paradise and decides to sacrifice it in front of Will's eyes...as if the gates of heaven are closed to him forever.
And throughout the season 3 We see will trying to salvage his way to heaven once more only this time, he has to gain his passing through unconditional Love!
I'm basing this on Hannibal's total fetishization of Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy since in season 1 we saw him crying in the Opera( a rare scene actually when he gets truly emotional) which is based on Dante's journey through hell.
Love to know your opinion on it, in the comments!
That insight is very interesting, you fellow Fannibal👌
I don't think Hannibal is consciously doing that, but thematically you are spot on.
@@BadBloodwillout In Hannibal's mind he is always playing God...As he himself said it when he kills most of the time he thinks about God.
So I have to agree on that with you. He may not do it conciousnly, but he is playing God nonetheless.
Thematically you could say each season represents those.
S1 is Hell for sure as the descent into madness of everything Will was experiencing as were we watching him suffer at the hands of the Devil himself
S2 is Purgatory with Will knowing who the Devil is and fighting to get out while also still being stuck in his thrall
and S3 is Heaven with him ascending out of the madness of Hannibals shit until the end when he embraces him lovingly as they both go over the edge together.
I never even thought about it until you said that. Fuck this show needs to be studied in film courses AND psychology courses worldwide. So damn good
The way Mads mikkelsen played Hannibal has cemented in my mind that we may never see a Hannibal as brilliant. I love Anthony Hopkins, always will, but Mads IS Hannibal in this show. It’s such an exceptional performance.
The season 2 finale is probably the best episode of any TV show I have ever watched in my life.
Same. Just my hands on my head the whole last 15 minutes of that ep.
Mizumono fan club assemble
I always feel the odd one out because S3 is actually my favorite. I do think it drags just a little bit in the middle of the first half(it's true that Chiyoh never really does come together), but I love the arc and it's pretension anyway. I fully adore the back half. I will, though, disagree about Alana in S3. That's when just I started to find her interesting. I found her pretty boring in the first two seasons, especially season 2.
FINALLY someone! I love season 3
Agreed, S1/S2 Alana was pretty boring to me, but I do think it's kind of on purpose.
I find the S3 kinda forceful.. Liked they could have incorporated better with hannibal, will and the guy with dragon tattoo.. BUT then again, i understood they have to tiptoe clarice without mentioning clarice..
Season 3 isn't my favourite, but other than that I fully agree with you. Alana in S3 is so much better, and while the first 3 episodes of the season are slow (because they wanted to drag out the character reveals), by episode 4 the show is back to being incredible
The S3 opener is one of my favorite episodes of the show, but aside from that... most episodes drag, especially compared to S2's perfect pacing. Alana is absolutely great. I love her in all seasons, but seeing her being badass in S3 felt very nice.
It's a shame that Hannibal was canceled after only three seasons, and yet Lucifer got a total of six seasons on Netflix when it definitely should've ended earlier.
I have liked and loved other crime and psychological series but with NBC's Hannibal, I fell in love with it the moment Will Graham said-- "This is my design."
I'm impressed with the gruesomeness of the images you were allowed to use.
*knocks on wood
Thank you for doing the whole series. It makes want to rewatch.
This was the second upload attempt... the first one was even more gnarly and they didn't let me get away with it
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“Gaslight gatekeep gastronomy” LOL
i love Bedelia because i read her as completely petrified. Every word and gesture is carefully measured to keep her off Hannibal’s table. He won’t let her quit the mindgames, and each move could be her last.
In Season 2 she’s living in the lion’s den while being literally made of delicious steaks, and i read Gillian Anderson’s performance as almost delerious with terror, holding herself to the knife’s edge she’s walking. If she came across as “petrified wood” to some, I’m sorry it took away from the show for them
Ok, I get where you're coming from with Bedelia, but let me play devil's advocate for a moment: I will always have a soft spot for Bedelia because of Antipasto. That whole episode treats her like an audience surrogate, and while she shows no strong emotions and appears detached, we can also see that she's constantly speculating and wondering about Lecter. Her face when Professor Sogliato starts being aggressively rude, or when Lecter invites Dimmond to his lecture on Dante shows exactly what she's thinking, and her surprise when Lecter appears to spare Dimmond, and denies any interest in killing Sogliato reflects the surprise of the audience.
The "Observe or Participate" scene forces her to recognize that her curiosity and observation are in fact forms of participation, and that then forces the audience to a similar realization. This is a slap in the face that we couldn't have gotten from Will. For Will, observing has always been linked to participation. He sees a crime scene and imagines himself creating it. Bedelia tricked herself into thinking she was an innocent observer, which might explain her detached demeanor. Her shock and quiet horror as Lecter rips down her defenses and she realizes how implicated she is lands perfectly for me, and it imbues the same horror in me as I realize that I'm no better than she is. It's a beautiful and masterful blurring of the divide between the show and the audience and I adore it!
i agree. bedelia is a great, nuanced character who toys with issues of audience voyeurism and participation in a horror series. i think the writing off of her by the video is a little, dare i say it, sexist
I loved the design elements of the crime scenes in Hannibal. Each one felt so unique and it really made them seem like the killer had taken the time and really put thought into what they wanted to show. My favorite one was the beach corpse totem pole.
I'd love it if you could do a retrospective on the son's of anarchy series.
That was my favorite myder tableau too!
It's not flawless but honestly I would classify Hannibal as a masterpiece of television. It's a miracle that this show was able to get away with three seasons of television on a platform that was just simply old-fashioned TV and not streaming or HBO
Excellent video, as Hannibal would say, “I love your work 🙃”. My only different take was on Abigail, I felt it was a fairly straightforward jump for them to feel paternal or in better words responsible. She was fated to be Hobbs last victim, and by saving her life Will in a sense took responsibility for it.
I find your point about chiyoh and bedelia being mostly redundant interesting - you're right, that them saying "oh Hannibal's in my head too!" cheapens Will's struggle a bit, but I think it also shows something else - Hannibal has *tried* this before. he's tried to make connections and make people see the world how he sees it. but they've never really surrendered. chiyoh and bedelia indulge in violence somewhat, but Hannibal is never really successful with them to the degree he is with changing will. I think it almost reinforces that will and Hannibal are each other's violent match
the strongest thing for me is the strange nature of hannibal and wills relationship. I don’t find it that controversial that will doesn’t “reciprocate”. Everything Hannibal wanted for Will, Will made a reality for Hannibal. it’s so twisted and beautiful. This show is definitely carried by Mads’ and Hugh’s performance, and I absolutely adored Chilton. Im surprised your channel isn’t bigger lol you’re very concise and and media literate.
It's a poetic horror show. Love the level of the class presented by Brian Fuller. I had to go back and watch the movies, which I had not before, just to compare Anthony Hopkins and Mads Mickelsen, the latter did not even come close to giving me any chance of criticism. I am a permanent fan of his now.
It's the 'art' aesthetic of the murder scenes which adds another level to it. Hannibal's taste for art & culture is reflected in the grandiosity & 'display' element of the murder scenes. That he's refined, elegant, cultured & loves art etc makes him different & more horrifying than the usual serial killer.
It's not zero emotion, it's called being numb. Very real after the psychological scars Hannibal left them with. Have you ever seen a woman or child in an abusive home?
the food scenes are honestly immaculate. the level of detail, the effort put in. it is an impeccable example of show don't tell when it comes both to hannibal's excellence as a gourmand and is totally psychopathic relationship to his victims. they are MEAT. we don't need him to monologue about it, we see it and it is a sick delight. i think also there is so much black comedy in the food scenes: you are simultaneously disgusted and enticed as a viewer, made complicit as a voyeur to this beauty and this horror, which is simply a stroke of genius
When he made that little puff pastry mask after seeing Will in full asylum restraints, i said out loud “you MOTHERFUCKER”
it might be just bc gillian anderson was my gay awakening but I never got tired of her in hannibal - if you read her as constantly off her tits wine drunk the whole character has this great quality and some of the most comedic lines (also season 3 alana never read as emotionless to me, although I did have a problem with the whole trauma making a character cold and strong trope that we've seen a million times, and would have loved if she'd retained more of her earlier compassion and used that as a strength)
Yeah I always saw her as drunk AF bc she'd have to be to deal with her current state of living lol
I adored Bedelia!
Will and Bedelia's little cat fights were one of the highlights of Season 3 for me!
@@aintnolittlegirl9322 oh most definitely, the bitchy back and forth they had going on was absolutely hilarious! the fact that most of her lines to Will amounted to "you want to fuck that old man so bad it makes you look stupid" just makes it even better lmao. Also I love Bedelia (Gillian Anderson was part of my queer awakening as well so that helps)
I think Will's paternal feelings towards Abigail don't need more explanation. He was using his ability to put himself in her dad's place and killing him set him off-kilter. I think he may take on that father figure role not only because he feels responsible, but also because he got stuck on it?
Regarding Miriam's brain washing, I can buy it, trauma can allow for that kind of thing, and her experience was pretty traumatic. I agree the rest doesn't make a lot of sense, though, but it's fun and very well done, so it's easy to ignore the flaws, as you said.
I don't think having Chiyo and Bedelia be influenced by Hannibal cheapens what he is doing to Will. As I see it, it shows that Hannibal is unable to form a connection with other people, and tries to do that by manipulating others, either to be like him or fear him to the point of not going against him. But with will is different, because Will is able to understand Hannibal, but he doesn't try to imitate him completely like Gideon did. It's like Hannibal drove Will into madness to see what happened, and helped WIll develop his dark side, while with other people he was just influencing their actions by provoking admiration or fear.
I think Bedelia joined Hannibal out of fear, and Hannibal took Bedelia just to build a new image. She was his cover (his beard, dare I say). Hannibal was just using her, and she was scared, and maybe a bit hopeful that by playing along she would be able to escape somehow.
I would love to see another season but the last season, in itself, gives a really good conclusion to the whole story. As much as I love the relationship between Hannibal and Will, season 3 is potentially the perfect ending, if they died after jumping off.
Hannibal has always been portrayed as someone who thinks differently (i mean cmon, killing is art for him and he eats people) and any kind of love you get from that man is just outright destructive in general. But since we are seeing the show in the eyes of Will, we eventually came to understand Hannibal's nature and accepted him and his love. Will is a monster like him so they understood each other better than anyone else.
A kiss on that cliff wouldnt have worked for me too. Since, again, Hannibal for me is someone who loves in an entirely different way. That murder duo they did to Dolarhyde was already the "kiss" from their twisted love story.
Them jumping off that cliff, if season 3 was THE finale, was a GREAT ending to the whole show cause despite Will's awakening as a killer, he still was able to choose the right course of action to kill both him and his love, stopping their insanity before they could bring it to the outside world.
there’s a post credit scene that shows a table set for three people, with bedelia sitting at the head of it, her own leg served in front of her. since there were three plates it was heavily implied that hannibal and will had both survived, and bryan fuller eventually confirmed it.
I agree the s3 finale would be a beautiful and perfect ending, but to me it doesn't matter whether they live or not tbh, or if only the other survives.
I think it adds to the magic of the show, it leaves you to wonder. There's so many possibilities! I've spend so much time thinking about the tragedy of only one of them surviving, them both sailing off into the sunset together and the idea of them sinking to the sea floor together. I can't remember who it was or where, but I saw someone describe how they imagined that Hannibal and Will both died, and instead of ever getting to consume each other, they now lay on the sea floor equally powerless, getting consumed my sea critters and salt water. Wow!
They clearly both survived
The only show i've ever binged watched and fell in love with. I really wish Abigail and Beverly didn't die. I was so sad in the beginning of S3 when it was revealed that Will was dreaming about Abigail joining him in Italy. If they do a season 4 it'd be nice to see some flashback scenes featuring them. Same with Georgia Madchen
I don't agree with the chiyoh part. She's there to give us Hannibal's backstory about Mischa and to tie in elements from the fourth book (the castle, Hannibal avenging Mischa etc). And to show Will that Hannibal can care about other people (since he seems to be unclear about that) and be influenced (there are means of influence other than violence etc etc). Plus I don't think she's there to replace Beverly, the two are very different characters. Also she's there to serve as will in place of Will (ie Will is toying with her the way Hannibal was toying with him, after she kills the imprisoned guy.) I don't like that particular plot point but it's there, and he's doing it because she's someone Hannibal loves- noone else could be that. I can see the cynical pov that she's just there to be a token asian now that you pointed it out but I don't really buy it.
Especially because she is a character from the books, and her presence is most of the Hannibal Rising-driven parts we get.
I have a love/hate relationship with the episode she's introduced. I also find it tedious like you. But visually it's one of my favorites.
All in all I agree that season 3 was a bit of a drag with pretentiousness off the roof, but with some huge payoffs. I found the lack of emoting also offputing and gravitated towards Jack more this season than the previous ones. But I would not call the female characters boring, I liked Chiyo as a whole and I think Alana and Bedelia do a lot of the heavy lifting actually, even though the character changes were noticable. Honestly Will gives me the most trouble this season. Though I love him.
Hannibal is just salty that Mischa was fed to him from evil people so he is using his supernatural gifts as revenge against God or whatever by doing it the same to the other people after getting the "curse of wendigo" that made him crave endlessly of human flesh. Thats it thats the character LoL
@@luiousy7329 that's certainly one interpretation... but i really must disagree here. being fed mischa is one element of his backstory that makes his character so compelling and mysterious, but also one that is purposely left vague, cf."nothing happened to me, I happened". he doesn't crave human flesh, hell, that's the sickest part of him, he sees the people as ordinary slabs of meat--except he gets a twisted pleasure out of feeding them to other people. mischa is his catalyst for his "revenge against God" as you put it, the collapse of morality and goodness and the replacement with his petty cruelty, but her consumption isn't plaguing him to continue eating other humans.
What chiyoh lacks in development, she makes up for in eye candy🥵
Great analysis/discussion! I disagree on some points but agree on others.
1. I would say Will focusing on Abigail is very in character, ala the stray dogs and him attaching to mistreated victims. I believe him feeling 'paternal' is just a struggle in his attempt for normalcy. Of course, his connection with Abigail consists mainly in his head, which is kinda funny to think about.
2. The 'chess-master' moves never took me out of the show because everything by that point was so hyperrealistic. Understood why it could be a lil' bit too much, but it was one of my favorite plot twists.
3. Fully agreed with Mason! He was a wonderful foil to Will and Hannibal.
4. A easily missed thing about S3 Alana is that bone marrow got into her blood after the S2 finale -- leading her to act differently. In S3A, she is a combination of a lot of different characters from the books, and her character does not benefit from that. I prefer her in S3B more than S3A, where I feel like they finally got a grasp on this 'new, traumatized' Alana.
5. Jack Crawford is underrated. He's excellent.
6. Chiyoh is definitely a weird character to me. Introducing a bare glimpse into Hannibal's past with her just raises much, much more questions.
7. Bedelia is an interesting character to me. She is curious and manipulative and arrogant yet not completely devoid of morals.
The budget must've been super tight to keep every single avaliable light off for the entire show.
The lead up to and payoffs of the season 2 finale are absolutely some of my favorite moments in any show.
You're going to be huge and if not I'm still gonna watch all of your vids the second I see them drop. Feel lucky to have found this channel
“Hannibal realises he has no friends” LMAO it was so funny
I was so heartbroken when Beverly died, she was always one of my favorites
This show was a grotesque delicacy and your retrospective lovingly captures the delicious horror of it all; well-done.
this is the first hannibal review that i've ever 100% agreed with. between you noticing arcs, metaphors, problem/token characters, and actually head-on addressing the homoeroticism, you did not miss a *BEAT*
Literally one of the best series ever made, especially season 2. Eddie Izzard was awesome in this too as always.
This is still one of my favorite shows, and I wish there were more analysis videos like this! Thank you
Hello brother
Damn, this really makes me appreciate Mads even more.
I've been watching Mikkelsen since the Pusher movies in the 90s. I'm so glad to see he's blown up internationally.
this show is literally the most wild thing I’ve ever seen it’s ridiculous and has lots of flaws but inexplicably is one of my favorite shows of all time
I will say fuller had his back up against the wall particularly with season three as it was green light extremely late and there are stories that he was making up everything as they were shooting basically. I’m sure if he had time to actually plan season three would’ve been more solid
All things considered, its far from the worst last season even with the problems
@@hopekeeley2122 They actually had a plan for 7-8 seasons. The problem was that they couldn't get the rights for an important character to further the show, Clarice. There was a big drama about it, but Brian never managed to convince The writers of the first Hannibal movies to give it up to him. It really sucks because Brian went into what might have happened and it sounded amazing
@@mutemeimscared1632 Where did he explain what might have happened? I've heard of the entire Clarice mess but not that! :o
Dead on, season two is one of the greatest seasons in television history.
This show will always be my number 1 favorite show of all time. The performances are striking and memorable, the storyline is engaging and has the viewer interested in the outcome and oh my God the beautiful death scenes.
This cast was brilliant. Mads was the best Hannibal e could ask or. Perhaps one of the most underrated tv series ever made. It was genius!!
this show is hauntingly beautiful and so well written and acted that sometimes you forget how grotesque and evil it is at its core. the relationship between will and graham and all the homoeroticism that comes from it is so well done that it can be difficult to pick your side from episode to episode. the supporting cast are also fulfilling and drive the plot in their own ways. yes, the show has its weaknesses, but the strengths make up for them far and away. it’s just a shame it had to end when it did
I'll be forever disappointed that the food network didn't pick up this series after NBC canceled it.
Season 2 is like Empire Strikes Back, darker and bolder than the first, with a heroes lose ending, and it’s damn near perfect. Season 3 is (kinda) like Return of the Jedi, not as consistent as the last one but has the highest highs of the whole story, even if there’s a little bit of bullshit thrown in.
Season 3 is also like Jedi in that my favorite part is when they all team up to fight a gross villain in his lair who has a nasty plot to torture them to death
Oh my god Mason is just fucking Jabba lmao
"BoRiNg, eMoTiOnLeSs women when it should have been a Boys' trip."
I don't think I've ever gotten such a clear picture of a channel in one succinct sentence than in this instance🤣
the funniest line I think I ever heard about cannibalism is "The meat is bitter about being dead."
When Slip compliments a show, it immediately gets added to my to-watch list. Great work, this one is up there with the Terriers and Pushing Daisies reviews; oh, and I still put the Dexter video on repeat when I'm chilling or studying. Watching your videos is like getting to rewatching your favourite TV show, but as a bystander on the set of the production: You get to live through all the hits, but from a completely different dimension.
This channel really is a diamond in a rough, but damn it if I'm tired of people having to dig for it. I can't believe millions sub to people like Chris Stuckmann that literally read the wikipedia article of the show/movie while a channel like this exists.
If you ever set up a Patreon, you can count me in.
okay something about chiyo; i recently read “hannibal rising”, a prequel to everything else, explaining Hannibal’s past and how he got where he did. Chiyo is actually a pretty important character if we consider that (she was in the book many times and so was another important character related to her who isnt in the show) and yes the man did kill and eat his sister, Mischa, during WW2. That’s all :)
I still don't understand how your channel doesn't have more subscribers. I'm glad I found it after searching for Boardwalk Empire reviews last year.
I found it through the dexter retrospective
I found it though a dream
@@sinsoftheswamp8346 well, I am everywhere. Can’t you hear me singing in the wires?
I don’t think I’ve laughed at anything recently as hard as I did the Crazy Ex Girlfriend/Hannibal crossover
This show had all the makings of a short lived cult classic. I've said it once and I'll say it again. This is a gothic romantic comedy. Period.
Many of the decisions that were made in the plotting of this series cannot be understood without understanding its relationship to the books. The makers could not get the rights to Silence of the Lambs, and therefore to the characters of Clarice Starling and Buffalo Bill. The series makers were intent on including everything though, and as it happens they managed to include every single set piece and great line from Silence of the Lambs in the Hannibal series by giving them to other characters. Some of the scenes and characters whose presence seems inexplicable are there because they were in one of the books -- Chiloh from Hannibal Rising, and Dolarhyde, Reba, and Freddie Lounds from the original Red Dragon. If they had more time they might have split S3 into two more seasons, but after even that imaginary S4 I can't see the series continuing; they had thoroughly mined, sifted, and used all of the source material, and there really wasn't a lot of original stuff in there; almost every scene in the entire series was homage to something that Thomas Harris wrote in the novels.
Still hoping for season 4 😭
Can anybody remember what that Tumblr(?) account was that had a random "Hannibal Statement" generator?
It was AMAZING.
Just random, everyday stuff (laundry, toast, changing a tire) but in Hannibal's trademark poetic, deep philosophical verbiage.
Season 1 and 2 remainds me a lot of Interview with the Vampire, Hannibal and Will as Lestat and Louis, Abigail is Claudia of course and Bedelia/Alana as Armand.
Yes, also the show's creator loves interview with the vampire, so I think that's not a coincidence
Someone once said this show was like...elevated camp, and I think that might describe it perfectly? It's beautiful and well written but also crazy as hell.
I think Chiyo was meant as a nod to Hannibal's past movie wise. I'm unsure of in the books, but in the movies, he had a Japanese family member. So I think that might have been it? While it is icky that they killed off one of the women of color on the show, it's a free for all and a lot of people die, not just woc. The fandom was upset because we got to know Bev and love her, coupled with the fact that she was one of the few people of color. So it was a mix of things in my opinion. I've been sniffing around the fandom for a few years and have seen many takes on it, though.
Will and Hannibal's relationship was one of the most fascinating and beautiful things about the show. Watching them blur together and change each other was just *chef's kiss*! I wanted more, but mostly to see how things could have progressed further. It's obvious that Hannibal comes to be in love with Will and to see how that could have continued to play out as Will explores what HE feels in return past kinship would have been nice.
I love how this show felt like a dark fairytale
THANK YOUUU! This is my favourite show and you've perfectly encapsulated my thoughts and emotions.
Community Retrospective? Also I loved Hannibal as it was coming out and was so mad it was getting cancelled. Thanks for doing a video on it.
I like thinking there's a universe out there where Hannibal Lector is forklift certified
You're probably my favorite RUclipsr right now and I watch your videos about shows I would never care about otherwise. Keep up the good work!
OMG, this was such a blast of a commentary, thank you! And Good Will Hunting is possibly the most well-thought-out joke I've ever heard XDDD
Absolutely love this channel. Keep doing excellent work and I cannot wait for another episode. Probably the best voice on TV out there
I've been waiting for this one! Awesome Video as usual Slip Maker. Keep up the great videos!
That's crazy Im not even joking but I went looking for a Hannibal retrospective about 5 days ago great timing haha
That finale was exquisite!!! I remember watching it when it come out and just shaking with excitement! And the ending... Wow... It's been a long time since a show manage to capture me like this
This was a love story, pure and simple. Will was behaving like a man in love.
That is absolutely one of my favorite blooper reel clips ever at the end
Great video
An analysis that lives up to the brilliance of the show, loved every second of it.
“Water is like liquid elevator music.”
-Bilbo Baggins
Smart.
This video is literally amazing, and helps me deal with the sadly diminishing amount of Hannibal talk
30 seconds in and im already slapping my knee w/ the food network jokes and calling it a "culinary thriller" - you just earned a new subscriber - excited for the rest of this cause I know it's gonna be baller 😎
This is a great channel. I like watching your retrospectives of shows I haven't even watched.
I've been waiting so long for this, you tease
I've seen Hannibal 4 times and had no idea that the actor for Mason changed!!!!
thank you for this the world needs more hannibal content 😭 i disagree on bedelia, not because i have an argument but because i’m in love with gillian anderson 💕
Why was 6 afraid of 7? It's a fairly common question, mostly because when people see 6 and 7 next to each other, it doesn't really make sense. 6 is large, muscled, and trained in multiple martial arts, while 7 is fairly average, physically, and short. However, 6's fear of 7 has its roots in childhood. See, 6 and 7 grew up together, and for a few years, they were best friends. But then 6 kissed 3, and they became childhood sweethearts. 7 secretly had feelings for 3, so 7 decided he needed to destroy 6 to win 3's affection. He started subtly, undermining 6 whenever possible with passive aggressive comments and compli-sults. But over time, things got much more insidious. 7 started messing with 6's performance in school, bringing down his grades and turning teachers against him. Even worse, 7 became great friends with 6's parents and slowly turned them against their own offspring. At night, 7 would sneak into 6's bedroom, and whisper depressing and hopeless things into his ears. Every time 3 was around, 7 would pants 6 and make fun of his genitalia, or try to body shame him in other ways. However, 3 was both smart and compassionate, and saw through 7's schemes, sticking with 6, trying to counter 7's psychological tear-down with compliments and friendship. Finally, 7 decided that he would never be able to win 3, so he drugged both 6 and 3, taking them to an abandoned cobbler's hut on the edge of town. There, he proceeded to torture and maim 3, forcing 6 to watch in horror, unable to do anything to save his sweetheart. 7 didn't kill 3, but instead, put her in a semi-vegetative state. 7 cleaned the scene of his prescence, then called the cops, having 6 blamed for 3's condition. 6 was sent to prison, believing 6 was guilty, 6's parents fell into a deep depression, eventually committing suicide over what they believed 6 had done. After serving 17 years of a 30 year sentence, and getting out on good behaviour, 6, now muscled and skilled as a fighter, thought he might get revenge on 7. But when he finally tracked down 7, he found out that 7 had installed a micro-bomb into 3's body, and should he be killed, the bomb would automatically go off and kill 3 as well. And though she was still in a mostly fugue state, 6 couldn't bring himself to hurt her any further, and decided to try and move on with his life. However, being an ex-con, it was difficult for him to get a job. 6 finally found employment at a diner, which 7 then bought, and proceeded to again undermine and toy with 6 at every turn. 6 tried to find employment elsewhere, but 7 contacted any potential employer and soured them against 6. 6 finally realized that no matter what he did, 7 was going to try and ruin his life, and he resigned himself to living as a broken, lonely man, never able to stand up to the depraved, amoral 7.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
I haven't finished the last season but not bc I was getting bored but bc I didn't want it to end, I love this show so much. Two equally compelling leads with super fascinating relationship between them and gorgeous cinematography!
I encourage you to finish it, this is the most re-watchable show ever! To me it only got better every re-watch as the show is so complex I picked up on new things every time :)
I've been waiting for this one!
I'm so happy you used Lil Friendys at the end. Those videos might be my favourite thing about season 3, and I can't think of Will Graham without saying "Willgrim" in my mind, just like Hamibal does.
I found your channel with a shared Love/Hate of Dexter.
But I love your love of Hannibal. It’s one of the best shows I’ve binged this year. I’m sorry I waited so long….but I’m glad I didn’t have the long wait between episodes and seasons.
Thanks for the laughs. 🤓👍
Slip maker just discovered your stuff. Top tier content bro and got a huge list of tv shows to watch now. Subbed baby!
Fantastic retrospective of one of the greatest TV series ever to grace the screen! No idea if you take suggestions, but I would love to see a retrospective on one of the best and most underrated shows of the century: "Justified"
I loved the show from episode 1 all the way to the end. It was so good
Tumblr and Twitter forcing such a major change only in season 3 seems hard to believe. Chances are they already had tentative plans at least that far for a successful series.
FINALLY! It was worth the wait *chef's kiss*
Brother I promise you I will share your channel name far and wide! It won't be much longer before you are known as one of the greats in the RUclips community!!! Excellent work!