It's muti frequency- which everyone else already has. The graphs indicate amount of ferrous- which Nokta and Minelab already do with their ferrous scales and going by the adjustable iron pitch sounds. This is not the 'new' technology that was promoted, it's just a reworking of existing with more techno babble.
Agreed, and the more time I have been able to listen and digest the large amount of criticsim, the more I became disappointed with the debut. Especially after Garrett’s “Storm” media launch that now seemingly was more hype than reality of a detector that would be a leading new machine. Even at the VX9 level, I don’t see this detector being better than a lower priced Nokta Triple Score or Minlebab Xterra Elite, let alone a Legend, Nox700/900, Manticore or XP Deus II. You would have to spend nearly $1,000 for a Vortex VX9 to get an equivelent gear package you get in the Triple Score and Xterra Elite each of which sell between $500 and $600 complete. And yes, I don’t expect the VX9 to perform any better than those 2 detectors.
Garrett has been the biggest train wreck since the 1990s! Minelab and fisher came out with multi freq detectors now 30 plus years later they saw the light? the machine looks horrible! screen gets a F- , buttons are complete sand catchers , no programs and functionally is limited at best and they are now saying dont worry dont worry we got updates! I can see why they painted it blue as everyone knows the little green machines were junk on salt water beaches! the Apex was beyond a disaster out of the box only went to 20 khz while Minelab and others are at 40 plus khz! all weighted to small gold! lets be honest Garrett should be out of business! bad companies need to fail! made in the USA with Chinese parts!
when the Garrett ace apex came out years ago I watched all the content about it in that time just to see if it was a hobby I would like to do I did buy myself a cheap detector around 65 euro here in the Netherlands 🇱🇺 and did some detecting and sure I did found stuff nothing cool nor something to keep the detector has been collecting dust for years until this year early this year I decided to go full in on the hobby finally and did bought me the garret ace apex with the raider coil and free pinpointer the garret carrot pro at z lynk for 549 euro and the hobby really started for me as a child I grew up seeing those metal detectors and for what they were I decided to wait till the technology would be on par with what I would like so this year after a lot of brainstorming I started the hobby with the ace apex and it was and still is great 👍🏻😁 first hunt together with my daughter and her boyfriend/ son in law had a great time detecting and at the end even found a 18k gold ring and some coins from before the euro came in to picture some time passed and did some alone detecting and that's where I found out the things that were lacking in the machine that was a turn off for me 1 no waterproofing 2 no backlit buttons for detecting in dark conditions nightly adventures 3 no search led light that illuminates the coil and a little around it because the moment I was still not done detecting and wanted to continue I could not see the buttons had no light on me could not see in detail where I was swinging the coil and that irritated me and that's when I started to think and went on the look for a solution just like on a rifle just for kicks and giggles I mounted a red hunting led flashlight on to the shaft and that did the trick 😂 only not for the buttons and of course I took the light off too heavy didn't look that cool anyway 🫣🤣 so after a lot of pondering I bought my daughter the nokta simplex ultra for her birthday last may and had a test run with it and sure enough it had backlit buttons and a search led light for the coil and little around it it also is waterproof up to 5 meters and if you go underwater it has vibration function not only handy for underwater but also when you don't want to disturb others with sound and I thought this is nifty as heck well my daughter is happy with it and I wanted a spare machine that is waterproof and had all the things I wanted even for nightly adventures so I bought in a short period of time not only the nokta double score but also the reaper coil and the SC35 coil for the apex and double score since that happened even that I like my apex especially with that reaper coil 😁👍🏻🙏🏻 I tend to take the double score more often out that my apex was I completely happy with the double score nope not completely and somewhere in a comment section I did put my wishes out there and nokta was listening and in a month and a half plus minus they did come out with the tech I asked for and it's called the triple score so I pre order it as soon my detector shop kooistra had it already on there site the triple score is still pending underway to the Netherlands and my address but I knew garret was coming with a storm a new machine the vortex and I was hoping for a lot more than the apex already had but I did like the look of the apex the control unit 👍🏻✌🏻😁 coils look good too the new technology md-mf triple target id with more precision in identification target and finally waterproof and there came the disappointment no backlit buttons 🥺 no search led light for the coil and area around no vibration function for underwater detecting and more discreet detecting 😢 without the noise a total disappointment but there was one thing I did find an upgrade from the apex is the more compact way for transport in a bag backpack that is a plus because I don't have a driver's license and do my commuting on a electric fatbike so easy transport is a must but still even that I like most that the new line from Garrett the vortex has it's still not there where I would say take my money it's a deal breaker for me I'm a little disappointed because I had my hopes up high and already thought owning 2 garrets and 2 noktas with tech I like but nope it's one garret for only daylight hunting my spare machine and 2 nokta machines where one will be my main to go detector the triple score design wise I like the new vortex look and it has futures I like but nokta has more and when they come out with an new version of the legend which would have backlit buttons and a bit more precise target identification that would be a machine that would tick all the boxes so my question is why garret is still not on point and did I mention that my apex already has let me down twice 2 times it died on me day before 3 bars battery life left next day go out battery dead twice this happened 🙈🥲
Your gonna get succered, all these features, what features, i suggest you watch calabash digger, you guys have been using these machines for so long , take off your blinkers and look at the opposition, they nake this thing look like a broom shank!.
Without using it I cannot say that the 3 bar graph is all that appealing to me. It's a graphical way to represent the same data that I already have in the tones.
I waited for this machine like a little kid waiting for Christmas and this is what Garrett puts out..Minelab will be getting a lot of business from this mid grade tech.
I’m not overly impressed by what I see so far being a manticore owner. That being said, I do think I will buy one as a show of support and for a backup detector
I am hoping they are available soon. Thanks for this video! I use to swing the AT Max and was happy with it. The VX9 seems to be a great price as well.
Better than buying a EQX700 then if you decide you want to get a 900 you have to buy a whole new detector when other than software it’s the same exact hardware! Same with the nokta score detectors, same exact hardware with features limited by price.
So disappointed. The “update feature” is meaningless given the overall lack of competitive features. Was hoping this would be something that could compete with the Manticore or Deus ll. Lacking in design, weight, audio, iron bias, wireless capabilities, warranty. Ugh…the hype did not at all match the reveal. Only hope left is that the performance surprises us all.
The new Garrett Vortex aka “Smurf machine” is a disaster! Doesn’t even compete with Minelabs entry level machines. Garrett cost cutting all over this machine with the same coil/headphones as the 15 year old at pro. If only Garrett spent as much money on product development as celebrity colaberations they may have been competitive. Garrett is going downhill fast.
Revealed on the 4 year anniversary of White’s memo to it’s dealers, and the three graphs are somewhat like the VX3 freq graphs. They did buy up White’s patents.
Couldn't agree more. The V name the sound of the tones and iron, 3 bars. I was an original whites guy and definitely give it a try. Love my manticore but hey what's another 🤷♂️
We all know that Nokta copied the equinox to create the legend as the minelab patent expired and here comes the Garrett version of the multifrequency and waterproof in the same machine.
If the hardware can already do it, no reason not to try to load custom firmware to take advantage. That they charge 150 or so to unlock these features that are already there just shows the markup and is a business practice I dislike.
if minelab or xp announced an update and charged £150 for it there would be an up roar if you think about its a low end machine (hardware) thats trying to charge the price of a mid range crazy
It's been done with TV's. The hardware stays the same, the firmware decided the type of TV it was. This concept was hacked and on internet forums you could read how to change the cheapest model into the high-end most expensive topmodel.
guess 3d metal detector price has not gone down yet like a target that came up to my knee with nokta leagion just to make sure target was their using gpr lots say this dont work they do rotate 360 dug it was their just a big metal will still run the garett at pro with 13 inch coil even lots of separation with after narket coil
I certainly won't be buying the Vortex... Don't need to... I won a VX9 in the competition. Can't wait for the machine to arrive, this is going to be fun. Love my Garretts.
@5280Adventures I never heard anything about shafts I used garrett apex for 3 years and with smaller coil it was great you could swing for hours but start putting bigger coil it because heavy. I've got nox with carbon fibre and it's so light even with 11 inch coil
I'd like to see all future Garrett detectors fitted with a more robust USB connection other than the Micro USB. I personally like the connectors used on Minelabs.
If new vortex is fully waterproof ie take under water that little bung in the usb charger point is something that would fail straight away. I had apex and it kept falling out
You know it all boils down to people wanting to know if the target is worth digging or not (ferrous vs. non-ferrous). Just dig everything and you will be pleasantly surprised!
Truth be told, on paper the features ain’t there to compete with the competition. Straight off the get go, there needs to be more customisable features for the user. Lack of tone breaks, and tonal selections aka pitch tone all tones, hardly any allowance of recovery and no mention of an iron bias will limit the detectors performance to a lot of land . Plus Updates needed, or Garrett will become a laughing stock. Detectors with more feature 2 coils Bluetooth head phones and full carbon shaft is what garret are competing with. It is a big ask but expected a lot more at the price points 25khz max frequency on the highest model 🤔 Maybe we have been spoilt As always I will not settle for a Garrett cheerleaders view on the machine. Looking more like a brisk wind to a storm imho Hopefully it will do well, I feel Garrett needs it to do well
Was thinking something similar , not looking great at all , i watched a vid of someone digging out a 4 inch deep button on a hunted out site . Im very sceptical but well have to wait and see
Tony, I agree with your statement that this detector is perhaps what the Apex should have been. Other than waterproof construction, the 3 bar display, straight shaft and new color, its an updated Apex. The Apex should have better target ID and and an adjustable recovery speed to help in the junk infested areas. As an Apex owner for the last nearly 4 years, I'm somewhat disappointed. We'll see once the Vx_ is in the hands of users.
Thanks for covering the live release of the Vortex! !
Wow Stack Silver. Thank you so much!
It's muti frequency- which everyone else already has. The graphs indicate amount of ferrous- which Nokta and Minelab already do with their ferrous scales and going by the adjustable iron pitch sounds. This is not the 'new' technology that was promoted, it's just a reworking of existing with more techno babble.
Agreed, and the more time I have been able to listen and digest the large amount of criticsim, the more I became disappointed with the debut. Especially after Garrett’s “Storm” media launch that now seemingly was more hype than reality of a detector that would be a leading new machine. Even at the VX9 level, I don’t see this detector being better than a lower priced Nokta Triple Score or Minlebab Xterra Elite, let alone a Legend, Nox700/900, Manticore or XP Deus II.
You would have to spend nearly $1,000 for a Vortex VX9 to get an equivelent gear package you get in the Triple Score and Xterra Elite each of which sell between $500 and $600 complete. And yes, I don’t expect the VX9 to perform any better than those 2 detectors.
Garrett has been the biggest train wreck since the 1990s! Minelab and fisher came out with multi freq detectors now 30 plus years later they saw the light?
the machine looks horrible! screen gets a F- , buttons are complete sand catchers , no programs and functionally is limited at best and they are now saying dont worry dont worry we got updates! I can see why they painted it blue as everyone knows the little green machines were junk on salt water beaches! the Apex was beyond a disaster out of the box only went to 20 khz while Minelab and others are at 40 plus khz! all weighted to small gold!
lets be honest Garrett should be out of business! bad companies need to fail! made in the USA with Chinese parts!
Why is there no vibrating handle feature? Even the Xterra Pro and Nokta Score have it. No wireless function on the VX5 is a deal breaker as well.
Thank you for feedback! We appreciate you going live😁
Absolutely. Love to see new technology coming out. The users benefit from this.
We need to have you on Relics Radio podcast soon as well please.
when the Garrett ace apex came out years ago I watched all the content about it
in that time just to see if it was a hobby I would like to do I did buy myself a cheap detector around 65 euro here in the Netherlands 🇱🇺 and did some detecting and sure I did found stuff nothing cool nor something to keep the detector has been collecting dust for years until this year
early this year I decided to go full in on the hobby finally
and did bought me the garret ace apex with the raider coil and free pinpointer the garret carrot pro at z lynk for 549 euro and the hobby really started for me
as a child I grew up seeing those metal detectors and for what they were I decided to wait till the technology would be on par with what I would like
so this year after a lot of brainstorming I started the hobby with the ace apex and it was and still is great 👍🏻😁
first hunt together with my daughter and her boyfriend/ son in law had a great time detecting and at the end even found a 18k gold ring and some coins from before the euro came in to picture
some time passed and did some alone detecting and that's where I found out the things that were lacking in the machine that was a turn off for me
1 no waterproofing
2 no backlit buttons for detecting in dark conditions nightly adventures
3 no search led light that illuminates the coil and a little around it
because the moment I was still not done detecting and wanted to continue I could not see the buttons had no light on me could not see in detail where I was swinging the coil and that irritated me and that's when I started to think and went on the look for a solution
just like on a rifle just for kicks and giggles I mounted a red hunting led flashlight on to the shaft and that did the trick 😂 only not for the buttons and of course I took the light off too heavy didn't look that cool anyway 🫣🤣
so after a lot of pondering I bought my daughter the nokta simplex ultra for her birthday last may and had a test run with it and sure enough it had backlit buttons and a search led light for the coil and little around it
it also is waterproof up to 5 meters and if you go underwater it has vibration function not only handy for underwater but also when you don't want to disturb others with sound and I thought this is nifty as heck well my daughter is happy with it and I wanted a spare machine that is waterproof and had all the things I wanted even for nightly adventures so I bought in a short period of time not only the nokta double score but also the reaper coil and the SC35 coil for the apex and double score since that happened even that I like my apex especially with that reaper coil 😁👍🏻🙏🏻
I tend to take the double score more often out that my apex
was I completely happy with the double score nope not completely and somewhere in a comment section I did put my wishes out there and nokta was listening and in a month and a half plus minus they did come out with the tech I asked for and it's called the triple score so I pre order it as soon my detector shop kooistra had it already on there site the triple score is still pending underway to the Netherlands and my address
but I knew garret was coming with a storm a new machine the vortex and I was hoping for a lot more than the apex already had but I did like the look of the apex the control unit 👍🏻✌🏻😁 coils look good too
the new technology md-mf triple target id with more precision in identification target and finally waterproof and there came the disappointment no backlit buttons 🥺 no search led light for the coil and area around
no vibration function for underwater detecting and more discreet detecting 😢 without the noise a total disappointment but there was one thing I did find an upgrade from the apex is the more compact way for transport in a bag backpack that is a plus because I don't have a driver's license and do my commuting on a electric fatbike so easy transport is a must but still even that I like most that the new line from Garrett the vortex has
it's still not there where I would say take my money
it's a deal breaker for me I'm a little disappointed because I had my hopes up high and already thought owning 2 garrets and 2 noktas with tech I like but nope it's one garret for only daylight hunting my spare machine and 2 nokta machines where one will be my main to go detector the triple score
design wise I like the new vortex look and it has futures I like but nokta has more and when they come out with an new version of the legend which would have backlit buttons and a bit more precise target identification that would be a machine that would tick all the boxes so my question is why garret is still not on point
and did I mention that my apex already has let me down twice 2 times it died on me day before 3 bars battery life left next day go out battery dead twice this happened 🙈🥲
Your gonna get succered, all these features, what features, i suggest you watch calabash digger, you guys have been using these machines for so long , take off your blinkers and look at the opposition, they nake this thing look like a broom shank!.
If I decide to get the Vortex then I will go for the VX9 but I do see the upgrade better than what Nokta is doing.
Without using it I cannot say that the 3 bar graph is all that appealing to me. It's a graphical way to represent the same data that I already have in the tones.
I waited for this machine like a little kid waiting for Christmas and this is what Garrett puts out..Minelab will be getting a lot of business from this mid grade tech.
I love the three frequency pinpointing on the whites v3i. To this day nothing compares to that
Mixed reviews for me always had garrett but moved away to minelab nox and happy
Same here, from the 80's Garrett , like to see Fisher come up with something
Think i will stick to my deus 2
I’m not overly impressed by what I see so far being a manticore owner. That being said, I do think I will buy one as a show of support and for a backup detector
I am hoping they are available soon. Thanks for this video! I use to swing the AT Max and was happy with it. The VX9 seems to be a great price as well.
Dealers are taking pre-orders but they will ship in July
I think that having to pay to unlock different levels of owned hardware is absolute trash. I’m very disappointed in Garrett.
@@Stack_Silver I completely understand it. It’s like a Tesla or some Audi’s where you pay to unlock capabilities already built into the product.
I agree 👍 next thing garrett will be selling a kit and you build your own metal detector
@@samsungcrossland2036 it just feels scammy to me. I was hoping for so much more. It really bugs me a lot.
Less material in the landfill, man.
Better than buying a EQX700 then if you decide you want to get a 900 you have to buy a whole new detector when other than software it’s the same exact hardware! Same with the nokta score detectors, same exact hardware with features limited by price.
Great reaction to the release Tony, I can't wait to get my hands on the VX9 to try it out in the lake. Should be interesting.
So disappointed. The “update feature” is meaningless given the overall lack of competitive features. Was hoping this would be something that could compete with the Manticore or Deus ll. Lacking in design, weight, audio, iron bias, wireless capabilities, warranty. Ugh…the hype did not at all match the reveal. Only hope left is that the performance surprises us all.
Anxious to test it out for sure
The new Garrett Vortex aka “Smurf machine” is a disaster! Doesn’t even compete with Minelabs entry level machines. Garrett cost cutting all over this machine with the same coil/headphones as the 15 year old at pro. If only Garrett spent as much money on product development as celebrity colaberations they may have been competitive. Garrett is going downhill fast.
Can’t wait to see yours and others comparison videos when they start rolling out...
Agreed. Hopefully I can get my hands on one early! Thanks for the comment.
Revealed on the 4 year anniversary of White’s memo to it’s dealers, and the three graphs are somewhat like the VX3 freq graphs. They did buy up White’s patents.
There ya go!
Couldn't agree more. The V name the sound of the tones and iron, 3 bars. I was an original whites guy and definitely give it a try. Love my manticore but hey what's another 🤷♂️
umm garrett bought the rights to whites duhhh!! lol please tell me you knew that?
We all know that Nokta copied the equinox to create the legend as the minelab patent expired and here comes the Garrett version of the multifrequency and waterproof in the same machine.
Software upgrade: that’s a neat concept. Again, as long as they can fight the hacking that computer gurus may attempt to circumvent.
Huge hurdle right there and I agree. I think its a great concept
If the hardware can already do it, no reason not to try to load custom firmware to take advantage. That they charge 150 or so to unlock these features that are already there just shows the markup and is a business practice I dislike.
if minelab or xp announced an update and charged £150 for it there would be an up roar if you think about its a low end machine (hardware) thats trying to charge the price of a mid range crazy
It's been done with TV's. The hardware stays the same, the firmware decided the type of TV it was.
This concept was hacked and on internet forums you could read how to change the cheapest model into the high-end most expensive topmodel.
The big pitch... "It's not another Apex".
guess 3d metal detector price has not gone down yet like a target that came up to my knee with nokta leagion just to make sure target was their using gpr lots say this dont work they do rotate 360 dug it was their just a big metal will still run the garett at pro with 13 inch coil even lots of separation with after narket coil
I certainly won't be buying the Vortex... Don't need to... I won a VX9 in the competition. Can't wait for the machine to arrive, this is going to be fun. Love my Garretts.
Congrats!!
Every manufacturer is just trying to keep up with Minelab.
Absolutely.
Haha Pirate the upgrade!
What are shaft made of standard plastic and aluminium or move up in world and used carbon fibre shaft 🤔
Never mentioned so I assume not carbon fiber 😢
@5280Adventures I never heard anything about shafts I used garrett apex for 3 years and with smaller coil it was great you could swing for hours but start putting bigger coil it because heavy. I've got nox with carbon fibre and it's so light even with 11 inch coil
I love carbon fiber for sure. Big difference
You don’t want carbon fiber for a lower shaft. It’s conductive. Acts like an antenna to EMI. Take your pinpointer out and test it.
@Mr.Technical77 sorry not a problem on my nox it fully carbon fibre
I'd like to see all future Garrett detectors fitted with a more robust USB connection other than the Micro USB. I personally like the connectors used on Minelabs.
Agreed on that one!
If new vortex is fully waterproof ie take under water that little bung in the usb charger point is something that would fail straight away. I had apex and it kept falling out
You know it all boils down to people wanting to know if the target is worth digging or not (ferrous vs. non-ferrous). Just dig everything and you will be pleasantly surprised!
Truth be told, on paper the features ain’t there to compete with the competition. Straight off the get go, there needs to be more customisable features for the user. Lack of tone breaks, and tonal selections aka pitch tone all tones, hardly any allowance of recovery and no mention of an iron bias will limit the detectors performance to a lot of land . Plus Updates needed, or Garrett will become a laughing stock.
Detectors with more feature 2 coils Bluetooth head phones and full carbon shaft is what garret are competing with.
It is a big ask but expected a lot more at the price points
25khz max frequency on the highest model 🤔
Maybe we have been spoilt
As always
I will not settle for a Garrett cheerleaders view on the machine.
Looking more like a brisk wind to a storm imho
Hopefully it will do well, I feel Garrett needs it to do well
Im very anxious to see some unbiased reviews
Was thinking something similar , not looking great at all , i watched a vid of someone digging out a 4 inch deep button on a hunted out site . Im very sceptical but well have to wait and see
Tony, I agree with your statement that this detector is perhaps what the Apex should have been. Other than waterproof construction, the 3 bar display, straight shaft and new color, its an updated Apex. The Apex should have better target ID and and an adjustable recovery speed to help in the junk infested areas. As an Apex owner for the last nearly 4 years, I'm somewhat disappointed. We'll see once the Vx_ is in the hands of users.
We will have to see how it performs to get the final grade on this. Thanks for commenting.
I need my Vortex VX9
I can't say that this machine really grabs me,as far as technology go's, nothing new,but nice color
Вот ещё бы вход штеккера сделали под углом , было бы вообще 👍 хорошо
Agreed on that!
13 kHz on the vx5
Thanks
Re hashed same technology thats already out there. Im not impressed
I agree! It’s impressive all around I think.
Good timing, releasing it during Pride Month, because it will suck.
Hahahah this looks like trash
Doofus