Post Appalachian Trail - Water and Cook Kit
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2019
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One of the most informative AT channels. Appreciate it
I appreciate that!
I'm going backpacking on Friday and was looking for this exact video a couple hours ago. Lo and behold, you upload one soon afterwards. Awesome.
Fantastic idea about the smart water cap for flushing the sawyer and the tap water tip. Thanks Jason.
Saves a lot of space and headaches!
My new Sawyer Micro was a nightmare on my SHT hike. I'm now back to using my old Sawyer Squeeze. I learned a lot about my gear being on the trail for 13 days. You must have learned a ton being on the trail for so long. btw I used my Zpacks bear bag as a wind break, but it somehow touched my alcohol stove and melted a small hole.😬 The gorilla tape did fix it!
Thanks Jason I have been using gutted 550 for 2 years now. I ordered the Lawson’s today. Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you for the practical information. This will be a big help for me. I hope to hike the AT in 2023. I want to start out as practical as possible from the get-go.
THANK YOU! BE SAFE ! HOPE YOU ARE DOING GOOD !
I was so stoked to see you wearing one of our shirts! Awesome!
Hello my hiking friend, thank you for sharing your tips and tricks on the trail. The best to you, your family and your fiance. 🤗
Nice look at your kit. I also use the Lite AF food bag with hang kit it has been great over the last year. I like your idea of back flushing the filter without using tap water. I never thought to pop the filter onto the bottle cap like that. I will be using that idea in the future. Great video thanks for continuing to share your gear experiences after the long hike.
Great video man . Glad to hear from you !
Great information about the smart water cap
Great recap on some of your basics. I kinda miss not hearing you every other day. Hopefully you're healing up and getting back on the trail for some weekend hikes soon. Thanks for the recent videos.
I very much miss being on the trail. My ankle is still giving me some issues. I need to get it looked at before I commit to the next trip. But very soon!
Yes I understand completely about the Sawyer squeeze and tap water the tap water has chlorine in it which claude's the filter
Love the after hike info - and I'm watching the through hike videos again and loving it - I pick up so much more this time now that I know stuff from watching the 1st time - this is sooooo much fun - hiked last week on the AT near Erwin, TN and loved the view from Big Bald - when you crossed over it was Wolf Laurel Ski Resort still open? That would have been your view back in to NC with Mt Mitchell way in the background. Did 39 miles in 3 day hikes and that's about my speed :). 2 15's and a 9 for day 3 - knees were hollering on the downhills by then
Thanks for the review! Im thinking about switching out some gear for my next section hike to shed a little weight, and one of the areas Im looking at is my food bag. Maybe starting with the lite af will be my CF gateway!
Great tips, thanks! I like your back flush method and will copy it. I may consider getting a flat bottom bear bag and lawson reflective guyline, to replace my current bear hang bag
thanks for video
Great info brother
Did a section in June (Springer - Franklin) and completely agree with your assessment of the Sawyer Micro. It would s l o w, I would flush. It’d be ok for a liter or so then S L O W again. Going with the full size for sure! Thanks for the video. Congrats on the Thru-Hike!
I really wanted to love the micro. I had doubts from the beginning.
I carry an platy/evernew since I use it as a pillow.
Thanks for the Video. I have been following the videos. I'm getting ready for a section hike the frst time ever on the AT
near Duncannon, Pa.on Sept. 1st. After reviewing your videos. I will be taking a hammock and a tent. Just in case the ground is too rocky
in an area I will be camping at. I don't know if I will go NOBO or SOBO on the AT yet. A hiker has to have choices . Ha Ha..
Just a hammock would work if you sleep well in one. No need to carry both 😉
Vertually the exact kit I use.🤙🤙🤙
Thanks for the tips man
You are welcome!
Good stuff.
Great video. Thanks for the tap water info. I will look for Lawson reflective guy line also. Doing some trail magic in Maine rt 4 South of Rangley Monday Tuesday. NOBO mid March 2020
You are awesome!
This video should be the go-to for cooking and water filtration! The Sawyer full size will be my next purchase and I'm going to ditch my mini and syringe
Definitely!
I stopped using bladders for the exact reason you mention - you can't tell how much you have left. The last hike I took with bladder was on the Florida Trail in January a few years ago. All the sources were semi-dry (mudholes), and I failed to ration properly because I couldn't see what was left in my bladder. I wound up having to make 6 miles totally dry.
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Enjoyed the video. Have both the micro and the mini, im thinking i may need to invest in the squeeze if the micro is as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
This might be an obvious comment, but the stream water you used to back flush was extra water you had Filtered already, correct?
Yes of course. Should have been more clear.
Thanks man very informative! I also like the polished long handled spoon! Can't go wrong with the sawyer squeeze! Also the brs stove just blows my mind for $15 i bought one beginning of 2018 and used it a bunch the only issue i had was keeping my pot steady/flat at times but it wasnt really an issue. Well i decided to upgrade to a pocket rocket 2 stove and kit and i really like it but i get way more spray screwing and unscrewing my pocket rocket 2 than i ever did with my brs stove go figure? I thought maybe it was the msr isobutane? I was using a more affordable iso from walmarts like colman with my brs. I still have to A & B them both with different cannisters but for the money the pocket rocket cost me i feel i shouldnt be having the issues im having! Something to keep in mind if anyone is considering the switch. Thanks for sharing your setup Frozen! Stay safe! Hike on!
Thanks for the info! BRS is a beast.
Good tip on not using tap water to backlash your filter. Tap water has sediment in it which clogs filters over time. Of course the amount of sediment will vary by locale, but it's best to use bottled water.
Great advice, hot off the trail! Thanks for the tip on no tap water back flush. I’ve also heard a lot of negative regarding the micro. Two thumbs up on the BRS. I still need to upgrade my 550 line to the reflective. Take cake man👍
Difference of night and day with carrying Paracord vs Lawson line.
Do you use the 2.3mm or 3.5mm?
@@WILDONTHETRAIL Smaller the better down. Don't go any lower than 2mm or it starts hurting your hand.
Check out the cnoc vecto dirty water bag if you decide to use one again. Think I spelled that right. lol. Was cool to finally see what’s inside the sawyer filter. Surprised I never thought of doing that with the last two I’ve thrown away.
I suggest a water rocket bottle with the Smart Water cap for your dirty-water bottle. This eliminates the need to unscrew the filter to fill the dirty-water bottle with the air before you can squeeze the rest of the water through the filter. Search RUclips for "4 gram Sawyer's Squeeze gravity water filter system" to see how this system works.
Great video. As for the filter, I use the Sawyer Micro Squeeze as it has a better flow rate than the Mini Squeeze and is smaller than the Squeeze. I'll start using the reflectix cozy idea for the whole pot rather than just for the lid and a 'hand grip' around the pot. Excellent!
This is just a recent FYI from the ATC, several state parks, and a bear bag materials supplier: Bears across the country are becoming habituated and will go for hanging gear expecting food. Bear bags are meant to be tied securely around tree trunks, not hung over limbs. Bears tearing into bags and being rewarded with food is what gets bear bags eventually banned from some state parks. The lightest (1.8lbs) and most successful bear-resistant food container solution so far is a hybrid bear canister: an Ursack Allmitey bear bag (Kevlar-based), an Ursack Aluminum liner (so your food doesn't get crushed), and a 12x20 Opsak (helps hide odors), along with an optional 20L dry bag (the Allmitey material attracts humidity and may dampen gear in your pack).
at that point, just get a hard shell can...
Thanks for info about back-flushing using a Smart Water bottle.....very useful to know.
BTW,the beard suits you a lot.
You are welcome and ty!
Something i havn't run across but if your flying with your sawyer you may want to bring it with you in the cabin depending on the time of year as it may freeze in the luggage hold during flight
Good tip. Never though of that.
Have enjoyed following your channel for the past couple of months. Want to move away from Mt House food on the trail to Knorr sides. I have tried them using the freezer bag cooking method, but every time I cook them they come out chewy and stuck together. Appreciate your insights on how you prepared them on the trail. Thanks Craig
You can just put about 2 cups of booking water in the knorr bag. It's gonna be soupy no matter what though. Gotta stir them a decent bit too.
How long after you put the water in before it rehydrates enough to eat?
Great info as always thanks a bunch! Did you also soak your dinners in their own packaging like the oatmeal. I have heard that some of them will not hold water and will leak out bad, or did you cook in your cook pot.
Just watched your video on backpacking food which answered my question. Again thanks to all the great videos. I do a lot of backpacking and have been able to include some of your tips to better my bag and setup. Though I just love trying different gear and ways of doing things.
I still rock a Ti cup just for coffee and don't like to cook in my pot, just boil water. I imagine both will change if I ever do a thru hike. Recently followed you and Baskets with only smartwater, ditching dirty water bags. Also have the LiteAF kit. Haven't used it in the field yet, but I love the addition of the PCT toggle. Won't work with Glowire though. Did you have any trouble finding good trees to hang it from? Always seems like branches are too high ot too low.
Nah never had an issue. Made it work nearly every night.
I have the Sawyer squeeze. It is drippier than it should be where it connects to my dirty water bottle or Cnoc bag. I find not having the filter threaded on tight to the source improves the situation but does not cure it. Any ideas??
Yoo that is the fluoride in the rap water. That is what it does to our brains when we drink it
Just curious how many ursacks you saw on the trail and if people liked them. I’m a weekend hiker but tired of trying to find perfect trees to hang. No cable systems where I hike. The ability to just tie around a trunk and walk away is very enticing.
I saw a few actually. They seem worth it for ease of use.
I'm on my second squeeze and have definitely noticed that not using tap water has helped the longevity.
Did the hostels also sell denatured alcohol? I have (and love) a brs as well, and I'm debating between that and my alcohol stove for a future AT thru hike.
I am thinking this way. Every Walmart has Heet too, so not sure which method would be easier. I think I would just get alcohol and have a couple Esbit tabs as backup.
It's good to learn that you were able to just use that food bag set up. I know that there are some people who recommend Opsacks paired with a Ursack, but you didn't find that necessary?
My dog smells through those obsessed so I don't think they work
Tap water normally is full of limescale (hard water) that's why it cloggs filters.
That's what I figured or calcium buildup. My trail sawyer is working perfectly.
Hey Frozen! Question on filtering. Do you have to loosen the filter on the bottle to let some air in while filtering or does it filter the entire bottle pretty easily?
You do have to loose it periodically yes. That's the only downside. Maybe twice per full liter.
Does your washer for the filter get oddly crushed in the bottle? Mine always seems to do that then leak.
A lot of people on the trail overtightened the filter. Lightly twist it until it's snug. No need to lock it down. If you overtighten you will bend the o-ring in and it will fall out.
Other than the obviously faster boil time, was there any other reasons you chose a cannister stove over an alcohol stove? Thanks!
Just ease of finding fuel really. Alcohol can also be found fairly easy and most hostels sell it by the ounce.
Hi frozen what size of gas cannister are you using and how long did it last you thanks.
I'm using the 110g cannisters. Not sure how long they last. I didn't really keep track. But I will say you are good for at least 4 days of 3x boils in a small cannister.
When you're making a reflectix sleeve, what kind of tape is best? I tried the actual reflectix tape they sell, but it didn't hold up on a week-long trip. Does duct tape work better?
Duct tape works or tape that's specify for duct work by 3M is what I use.
Hi Frozen! Just to be clear, when you say you took an extra liter of stream water to backflush the filter, I assume you mean stream water that you've already filtered with the same filter, right? Wouldn't make sense to push dirty stream water through it. Just want to double-check 🤪.
You are correct
Thanks for sharing. Shame that the Smart water bottles in the UK don't fit the Sawyer filters. We use metric size Smart water bottles.
Different threads really?
@@FrozensAdventures Yes, I bought 2 Smart water bottles with the intention of switching over to them but they don't fit my Sawyer filter. I can ally assume it is that I am in the UK and we are using metric sizes being a part of Europe.
@@alanc4264 In the UK Buxton bottles with the green cap fit. They are just a plain cap so I drilled a hole in one to use for backflushing.
@@patgreen1309 Hi Pat thanks for that information I will follow it up.
Hey Frozen, I’m thinking the ursack instead of hanging food... I assumed it I will hard too find hanging spots/branches... QUESTION: did you have trouble finding hang spots at the end of the day?
Nope never. Ursack is a viable option though. Make sure to get the bear version and not just the rodent version.
Outdoor Adventures perfect and thanks... and follow my 2020 AT...😁
I've heard of people soaking their sawyers in a vinegar solution to help dissolve any mineral buildup. I've never tried it, but i think others have had success with this method to resurrect a mineral clogged filter.
I've heard that too, never needed to do it though. My filters usually freeze before I replace.
If you were thru hiking again would you use the same stove or consider an alcohol stove? I have the brs stove and love it but I am wondering if alcohol stove is a better option.
Brs for sure on long hikes. Cannisters at resupplies are abundant.
Outdoor Adventures thanks!
Hey Frozen, I filter my tap water and then backflush the Sawyer. Do you mean don't backflush with unfiltered tap water or NO tap water period? Thanks!
I wouldn't. But I don't have any solid evidence. Just observation at this point.
@@FrozensAdventures Thanks for the reply.
Drinking out of titanium pot: ever burn your lips on the pot? Do you use anything to protect your lips when you drink out of it?
Nope titanium cools down very fast compared to aluminum.
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I'm not sure if you'll see this comment since the video is a year old. but I was wondering if you used the PCT stick by Dutch while you were on the AT? I remember you saying you were bringing it in a pre AT video and I was wondering if it worked well.
The toggle for the food bag? Nah I actually didn't like it much. Ended up sending it back. The design on that is pretty good but it needs to be bigger to accommodate different lines. I believe it only works with zing it which I have found cuts into my hands pretty bad.
Also for old videos RUclips still displays old video comments in the app. So no worries!
@@FrozensAdventures Thanks, good to know. I have the same Lawson line so I guess I'll skip the toggle. I have been a subscriber for years but I just binged your AT thru hike. I really liked watching your journey. Congrats!
Dutch makes a titanium toggle can just use that and a Becket hitch. (I think that's what it's called. I don't do the 2 loop thing for the real PCT hang. Make a loop flip it up and pull the line behind, through the loop. Put the toggle in the new loop.
There are some hammock forums hangs coming in the near future. Any possibility you might show up at any?
I'll have to check them out and see if I can make them. My ankle is giving me some.minor issues still.
Flipping that smartwater bottle cap is brilliant! I was just thinking the other day how I could get away with not hauling that bulky syringe on my next backpacking trip.
Did you do without a windshield for your stove?
I didn't use a windscreen or my food bag a lot of the time on trail. Instead I would try to set it up out of the wind. But it's good to have the ability to shield it.
I am wondering if tap water isn't clean water. Well it kind of isn't, but I hope it isn't so bad it can't back-flush.
It's clean and safe, but it has added chemicals to get it that way.
I'm 101 like hahaha you get 💯 for the video great details
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Why not the Sawyer mini?
Horrible flow rate on the mini.
Don't run tap water? Why not?
Hard water clogs the filter quickly
Thank’s for sharing very helpful👍 safe hike
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Yeah, the stock Sawyer bags are garbage. I wish they'd just stop including them. If you want to go back to a bag, look into the Vecto bags (latest model with the improved seal). So far, mine have been bomb-proof, and they are super easy to fill fast. If you go for the PCT or CDT, you're going to want to be able to carry more than 2L out from a source. In the desert, I'll even bring a 2L dirty bag, a 2L clean bag, and a smartwater bottle, so if I tank up fully, I can leave a source with 5L. Normally though, just the dirty bag and SW bottle.
If you order on amazon (link above) chose the faucet adapter. It's the cheapest option. It comes with the faucet adapter and the filter. No bags.
@@FrozensAdventures Yup. I think they should either beef up the bags or stop offering ANY versions that come with them, though. They are wasting materials and adding to landfills with a component that isn't made to last longer than a couple weekend trips (if that). And there's no need for them - the filter fits so many easily obtainable containers.