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Your mic has insane quality. What is it? Also I am so glad I found your channel man, you have a gift and the right mindset when it comes to covering this stuff. Concise and well researched!
The Grachii, Sulla, First Triumvirate, Second Triumvirate nah it totally was. The Republic's oligarchy came to a (imo) well deserved end after a century of repeated civil wars and as partisan as things are right now the violence has only been sporadic and of small scale not thousands dead in the Social war or the climatic showdown of Caesar and Pompey at Pharsalus. Not that history isn't without its rhyme here.
@@toldinstone Thank you. I've been wondering about this for some time. Everything I've ever read about Roman politics only covers the elections in Rome itself. But aside from an occasional mention that local elections existed, I've never seen anything about local governments. What kinds of offices did they have? Did they have the same wealth requirements as the offices in Rome? Did all cities have local elections or just some of them? Yay! Toldinstone replied to my question directly!
I was thinking the same thing. Robin Lane Fox mentions in Pagans and Christians that roman cities in Africa (or maybe it was Asia) still had elections as late as the 4th century. I wonder what happened to the rest. When did Athens stop having elections?
@@kittyprydekissme if you can think about it like the US government, imagine the governors and senators of states who come from Washington DC to establish offices and policies based on the necessities in that place, then that trickles down further to local councils, legislators, and officials. Like a superintendent of schools in a state, local superintendent, then the principals, the teachers, and finally parents/students
An oligarchy with democratic tendencies ruled by the rich and powerfull, where the candidates tell people what they want to hear... that sounds familiar.
Legislation was enacted by theTribal Assembly. The Centuriate Assembly was reformed sometime after 240BC "to be more democratic". The centuries became subdivisions of the Tribes, and while the centuries of wealthy citizens were still most influential, elections had to include more of the "Classes".
I get the impression that elections were limited to the City of Rome and perhaps its immediate environs. Was there anything similar in the Provinces? What about places like Athens with a very long tradition of democracy?
@williamharris8367 The cities of the Roman Empire were nearly all more or less self-governing entities. But what we would call "democracy" didn't exist. In most towns members of the propertied classes periodically met in an assembly and chose a group of wealthy men (curiales) to handle civic and religious administration and collect the taxes for the city and the surrounding rural district The Roman governor would oversee things, resolve disputes between the towns in his province. exercise jurisdiction (especially if Roman citizens were involved) make sure the tribute was collected and keep the peace.
Absolutely. The former is made up of 300 or so Senators who are former magistrates, the latter is every citizen man assembled to vote on the most critical issues. How did you not get that from this video?
I didn't know that it was Tiberius who stopped Roman citizens voting and switched that duty to the Senators. He anticipated Donald Trump, who said if Americans elected him, they would never have to vote again.
Rascists, all of you. You wanted an empire, youve got it. Pray, fucking pray that we get a good emperor, cause trump is not gonna last forever, it is who comes next who will determine the outcome. DO YOU UNDERSTAND
Augustus was a cause of the fall of the Roman Empire, things never got better for very long after that guy. Never holding elections makes things unstable and unlasting.
I'm happy I don't live in a dictatorial country and get to vote for my officials who have term limits. My vote may never matter, but at least the Democrat/Republican middle-class home owners are happy, and that is all that really matters.
Dictatorships and enlighted despots are highly underrated as forms of government. The problem is that the opponents of the regime are the most vocal; the supporters have nothing to complain about.
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I want to give another massive thank you to Dr. Ryan for his kind words and help in spreading the word about our little comic. Everyone involved in its creation has put a TON of time, effort, and passion into it and we're so happy that it's being shown to viewers like you who love and support learning and talking about ancient history.
As the video said, the campaign is in its final days (it was a scheduling delay on my part) so if you want to check it out the clock is ticking, but we've got some cool rewards and behind the scenes stuff to make it worth your while. Also, we do offer copies of Dr. Ryan's books as rewards for anyone who might want to check out the books.
It's amazing how much the world can change through time, yet aspects of human nature can stay almost exactly the same.
Yeah, they still reproduce by 5€X.
Yeah, they still reproduce by $€X.
Lovely presentation! My wife and I visited Rome in August and had a wonderful time. These videos are a fantastic educational resource!
Your videos and themes are inspiration for me. Keep on!
P.S.
Just got your books.
I need to get both of his books! I saw a few copies of one in Barnes and Noble one day.
The US might also be described as "an oligarchy with suppressed democratic tendencies."
Lmao
Some things never change.
Such as humans, still having 5€K5 to procreate.
Amazing graphics! I had to keep pausing to save them.
Really good video! I just really enjoy how ou present the information and have enjoyed your books as well.
Your mic has insane quality. What is it?
Also I am so glad I found your channel man, you have a gift and the right mindset when it comes to covering this stuff.
Concise and well researched!
Politics in Rome actually seems less insane than American politics.
The Grachii, Sulla, First Triumvirate, Second Triumvirate nah it totally was.
The Republic's oligarchy came to a (imo) well deserved end after a century of repeated civil wars and as partisan as things are right now the violence has only been sporadic and of small scale not thousands dead in the Social war or the climatic showdown of Caesar and Pompey at Pharsalus.
Not that history isn't without its rhyme here.
You should check out Eastern Roman (Byzantine) politics.
If Tiberius ended the elections, then why was there still campaigning going on in Pompeii in 79 AD?
Maybe local campaigning?
He only ended elections in Rome, for the old Republican officials. Local elections continued for centuries.
@@toldinstone Thank you. I've been wondering about this for some time. Everything I've ever read about Roman politics only covers the elections in Rome itself. But aside from an occasional mention that local elections existed, I've never seen anything about local governments. What kinds of offices did they have? Did they have the same wealth requirements as the offices in Rome? Did all cities have local elections or just some of them?
Yay! Toldinstone replied to my question directly!
I was thinking the same thing. Robin Lane Fox mentions in Pagans and Christians that roman cities in Africa (or maybe it was Asia) still had elections as late as the 4th century. I wonder what happened to the rest. When did Athens stop having elections?
@@kittyprydekissme if you can think about it like the US government, imagine the governors and senators of states who come from Washington DC to establish offices and policies based on the necessities in that place, then that trickles down further to local councils, legislators, and officials. Like a superintendent of schools in a state, local superintendent, then the principals, the teachers, and finally parents/students
you look like a normal person
Definitely a patrician
He looks like an ancient Roman.
what were you expecting? lol
I'm always happy to see my favorite creators take part in their videos! Sometimes they look totally different than you'd imagine from their voice.
Least normal comment
An excellent summary of the Roman political system. Well done.
Long live the Republic
@@AlohaSnackbar-pc9gd 🌿🦅🌿
'Bribery of the electorate was rampant' ... some things never change.
Around 9:25 Did Cicero really name drop Pompeii?
Interesting vid. Thanks.
An oligarchy with democratic tendencies ruled by the rich and powerfull, where the candidates tell people what they want to hear... that sounds familiar.
6:19 the Ancient Roman version of lawn signs.
I can think of a couple politicians that could have learned from Scipio's mistake.
Legislation was enacted by theTribal Assembly.
The Centuriate Assembly was reformed sometime after 240BC "to be more democratic". The centuries became subdivisions of the Tribes, and while the centuries of wealthy citizens were still most influential, elections had to include more of the "Classes".
I get the impression that elections were limited to the City of Rome and perhaps its immediate environs. Was there anything similar in the Provinces? What about places like Athens with a very long tradition of democracy?
@williamharris8367 The cities of the Roman Empire were nearly all more or less self-governing entities. But what we would call "democracy" didn't exist. In most towns members of the propertied classes periodically met in an assembly and chose a group of wealthy men (curiales) to handle civic and religious administration and collect the taxes for the city and the surrounding rural district The Roman governor would oversee things, resolve disputes between the towns in his province. exercise jurisdiction (especially if Roman citizens were involved) make sure the tribute was collected and keep the peace.
Just like voting in Chicago today. 🎉
Caesar
It's disappointing to see how little things have changed
Best sharing knowlesge
The graffiti seems to suggest a much more literate populace than is usually assumed.
Much of your commentary serves to remind me of the corruptions of modern political systems….. 😢
Grease the right wheels and anything is possible.
It's almost as if it's intentional.
This is the root of it, all & history has habit of repeating itself, all the the time. We are seeing one in the making, all the time!
He’s so handsome and smart 🥰
Let's goooooo
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"an oligarchy with suppressed democratic tendencies"
why does that sound familiar?
Because you don't know how to seperate fact from propaganda.
Democrat party Politicians and Officials
@AutomatedPersonellUnit_3947 lol at thinking its confined to democrats
@@AutomatedPersonellUnit_3947you mean tRump, the wannabe traitor-king.
@@LordTelperionNo, but Democrat party Politicians got frog stomped on November 5th 🌿😂🌿 lost the Whitehouse, Senate, and Congress
Is there a difference between the Senate and the Comitia Curiata?
Absolutely. The former is made up of 300 or so Senators who are former magistrates, the latter is every citizen man assembled to vote on the most critical issues. How did you not get that from this video?
Nah its easy, just have some centurions clutching swords in the senate chamber and you will be consul in no time.
finally, a tutorial
unfortunately too late for the Dems this time 😂
@@perguto maybe they can get a consul elected next year
some things pass the test of time and stay the same 🤷♂
So, not much changed at all.
Un video sobre como vivian los exclavos en el imperio romano
Callistus?
Very interesting we never think of!
Listen to Socrates
Seems like literacy was widespread.
This is kinda disturbing
5:00 lol the chicago came out
Sic semper tyrannis
@@TheFeralFerret Tace stultus
@@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus Just quoting a famous Roman in a video about the subject, sweetie. Sorry you're so upset! 💋
@@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus clausa, pinguis american
@kanokadany113 Pax Americana 🇺🇸🎉
Trumpinius Victory: Total
We're gonna miss these elections things...
Seethe more lib. Total Trump Victory
Mald some more
@@TPDA77777 Rigged election. Putin was probably behind it.
Just another AI voice channel…
…NOT!!! It’s friggin’ amazing all of this content Mr. TIS provide us with! 🙏
Decent ai voices didn't even really exist when he made this channel
Make Rome Great Again !
That was what Mussolini tried to do. He ended up swinging by his heels from a lamp-post.
@ are you comparing Trump to Mussolini ?
@@JohnDoe-tv4zf Not yet! I expect he will end up in Arlington National Cemetery, though.
@@faithlesshound5621 you’re insane, congratulations
Just wait and see. I wonder who will hijack the national mourning? Maybe President Vance. Don't touch the free Kool-Aid!
217th
You look like a young Julius Caesar.
He does. I am sure it is intentional on his part.
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I didn't know that it was Tiberius who stopped Roman citizens voting and switched that duty to the Senators. He anticipated Donald Trump, who said if Americans elected him, they would never have to vote again.
Gonna cry?
Consider trying to win an election without cheating lib
@@orxy5316 I see you're cheering at the prospect of never voting again. I have no dog in that race, so I'll eschew barking.
It's disturbing how many crazy Trump supporters are in this comment section!
Gonna cry?
@@NatiKore No, just report and move on.
It's disturbing how many maga morons are around in general. Mala tempora currunt 😐
@@NatiKoreYou will when orange grifter does nothing
Whatever you say lmfao
America is finally back
Wrath of Don... coming soon, unstoppable,unbeatable, unbowed, and unbroken 🦅🌿🇺🇸🎉
@@TrumpMagusunhinged
@@paperinik69 👈😆 you guys have been since the November 5th frog stomping
Cope
Rascists, all of you. You wanted an empire, youve got it. Pray, fucking pray that we get a good emperor, cause trump is not gonna last forever, it is who comes next who will determine the outcome. DO YOU UNDERSTAND
A lot of surprising similarities to modern elections. America could really use an Augustus right about now
They've just got themselves a Tiberius.
The Roman Republic was the main model upon which the Founders established the United States. Makes sense that there would be similarities.
@@ostsan8598 Other than the word "Senate," I don't see much similarity between the Roman and American systems.
Augustus was a cause of the fall of the Roman Empire, things never got better for very long after that guy. Never holding elections makes things unstable and unlasting.
@@filmbuffo5616 Augustus hammered in the last nails of the coffin of the Roman Republic. He is usually regarded as the FIRST emperor of Rome.
This should have been published before the US election.
Why?
I'm happy I don't live in a dictatorial country and get to vote for my officials who have term limits. My vote may never matter, but at least the Democrat/Republican middle-class home owners are happy, and that is all that really matters.
Dictatorships and enlighted despots are highly underrated as forms of government. The problem is that the opponents of the regime are the most vocal; the supporters have nothing to complain about.
USA? Happy?