As a Dutch bike mechanic I remember the first time I saw this bike in the shop and I wondered where it came from. It looks Dutch but different,the frame is shorter rims different and the angles of the frame resulting in a stiffer but more understeary combination. Nice to see them again.
Here I am a hungarian. We have the Csepel bike manufacturer for more than 90 years, almost 100. It was our first bike manufacturer, and it makes these kind of bikes. Though we call it not dutch bikes but city bikes, or also omafiets in our languages. Nowadays we have more manufacturers, for example not just the Csepel, but the Neuzer and more too. We use it since then, my grandparents, greatparents had this, and also me and my mom has. It is great for transportation, in our tiny cities, for not so much km-s, but also for short trips. We have ones with or without gears, the last one is just 200 USD, the first one obviously is more. We are trying to make bikefriendly cities, and even some of the cities are connected by bikepaths. Of course we have mountainbikes, bot mostly for more sporty activities, or in our main city, Budapest, where you need speed to go further. In the villages, most of the people also use bikes, cause the elders don't have got driving license, and the villages are so small, so why would you even drive a car just for to go to a shop? But we use bikes to go work, or school or even to meet with each other, to go to the caffee etc. We have famous bikepathes too, for example around the Lake Balaton, around the Lake Tisza, or the Dunakanyar (Danube curve) cycle paths, which leads you throughout forests, next to the river you can swim in or next to the fields, separated and far away from the car roads. If you come here in the future, try these cycle paths. There is a very old Csepel advertisment from 1948: ruclips.net/video/AflRBvSAXr4/видео.html&ab_channel=Quadraxis
@@Goldsteinphoto You can adjust the steer in hight, but not the angle. Also, if you buy a bike in the Netherlands, you can buy different frame-sizes. I do not know if that is possible with this brand.
@@fadema123 Those bikes are ok for short slow trips. But considering there are plenty of much better bikes that are very inexpensive, I can't see the point.
Yup, there are omafietsen over here in the NL with a fixed angle of the handlebars. The chain guard with a wire that kind of zips together the bottom is very common for guards with cloth. Although plastic guards more common by now I think.
Walmart seems to be sold out of anything by Hollandia that is bike related, so your video must have caused a run on their stock. Lots of other bikes out there sharing similar features, but it would be nice to have a new and nearly genuine steel omafeits with all the fixin's, like skirt guard and chain case, without spending over $500. It is my hope to one day own one, as I need a city commuter bike living in downtown Minneapolis. I want a reliable bike to abuse and take for granted.
Maybe, but maybe it just hasn't been available for a while? It is a pretty cool bike especially in a flat area but lately I've been thinking that maybe a 90s mountain bike etc a more upright handle bar is a better option for most people, however hard to find them in already tuned up condition. Either way thanks for watching!
@@spinningtrue That's what I have been doing. Reformating a big box MTB to act like an upright omafiets. Still struggling with finding the right handlebars and considering a stem extension if I cant find the right rise on the bars I need. Trying to find that delicate balance between seat and handlebars for the correct cockpit without going to the professionals who will just tell me I am doing it all wrong and need to spend $5k on a touring bike.
@@Colorcrayons oh yeah don't do that you need to find that shop that will work on anything or buy the parts yourself. Origin 8 or dimension or sunlite probably have some high rise handlebars for not much money
You can see it's a little bit different from a standard Dutch omafiets, but really, really close. The ratio of the frame seems a little shorter than normal. As if it's a bit squashed, handle bars closer to the seat than normal.
Inexpensive panniers from ALDI or LIDL (when they are available) work really well, as does an inexpensive dynamo light kit from aliexpress (if you upgrade the wiring, don't use what is supplied!). Great bikes, I'm going to add a front wheel pedal assist e-bike kit to mine, to help when taking off, in a headwind, and when loaded. Enjoy!
The white rear fender is a nice detail that you show wil make you more visible , this was once mandatory in the Nederlands but unfortunately no longer. I don't know if aluminum rims were an upgrade, in general, Dutch bicycles are built to last a long time and not to break down immediately if you drive through a hole that you did not see. The handlebar is "normaal", it is a Dutch handlebar but not made in the Nederlands. So this was my comment on your interesting review on a non-Dutch granny bike
Amazon sells a 21 speed aluminum drop handle bar bike for $120. It has way more parts than the Dutch bikes have and a better frame. This Dutch style bike should cost no more than $100.
They're 700c so 622, interesting about the 635 tires.. here in the US my understanding has been that 700c and 28" was the same size but maybe real 28" is the 635 size. These are the original rims so maybe that size is for the US market?
You never really said what this thing actually weighs, or compared to what the direct counterpart of a Dutch bike weighs. I was guessing before but I didn't know then.
I mean it's not light, I don't have a scale so it's hard to actually weigh but it really is similar to cheap bikes you find in the Netherlands based on my experience and what other people have commented here.
@@spinningtrue I make at point of knowing the weights of my bikes. 55 lbs. for the E-bike. 32 lbs. for the Marin. 24 lbs. for the State 8-speed. Obviously I'm not obsessed with super light road bikes, (or spending 1000s on them) like is the trend now. Some of the weights you hear about with the carbon fiber frames are like they're made out of paper machete!
@@derekjolly3680 Carbon bikes may be light but they are far stronger than steel or aluminum. My aluminum cyclocross bike has a carbon fiber fork because it is stronger.
Low end in the Netherlands, that would be cheaper than what they are sold in the usa. About 300 euro, but with shipping i think that 400 is normal. That bike is dold in different colors and in steel or aluminium in the Netherlands. The white part on the back was by law. The bike isn't completely according the old Dutch rules, but it is a cheap copy. A real Dutch omafiets is different, but they cell those also in the Netherlands. I would only never buy that. The quality is far behind of a real Dutch bike. There are many different omafietsen, but moost are cheap crap. There is also a heavy duty bike. It ism't a Womens bike, but it is in the same simple styl but stronger so you can cary way more weight.
Yes, supermarkets and discount shops sell 'Dutch bicycles' really cheap at the beginning of school season. Usually cheap imitation from China. But they have to comply with CE certification to be sold. (Read: not dangerous, all features functional, basic quality) They are usually bought as a second bicycle, the one you use to go out in city center, festivals, beach etc where the chance of getting stolen is high. For school most parents will buy one that has gears, nave dynamo, an AXA ringlock with chain, sturdy frame and of better quality in general.
Here I am a hungarian. We have the Csepel bike manufacturer for more than 90 years, almost 100. It was our first bike manufacturer, and it makes these kind of bikes. Though we call it not dutch bikes but city bikes, or also omafiets in our languages. Nowadays we have more manufacturers, for example not just the Csepel, but the Neuzer and more too. We use it since then, my grandparents, greatparents had this, and also me and my mom has. It is great for transportation, in our tiny cities, for not so much km-s, but also for short trips. We have ones with or without gears, the last one is just 200 USD, the first one obviously is more. We are trying to make bikefriendly cities, and even some of the cities are connected by bikepaths. Of course we have mountainbikes, bot mostly for more sporty activities, or in our main city, Budapest, where you need speed to go further. In the villages, most of the people also use bikes, cause the elders don't have got driving license, and the villages are so small, so why would you even drive a car just for to go to a shop? But we use bikes to go work, or school or even to meet with each other, to go to the caffee etc. We have famous bikepathes too, for example around the Lake Balaton, around the Lake Tisza, or the Dunakanyar (Danube curve) cycle paths, which leads you throughout forests, next to the river you can swim in or next to the fields, separated and far away from the car roads. If you come here in the future, try these cycle paths. + "Retro Csepel reklám 1948-ból" is an old advertisment about the Csepel here in RUclips.
As a Dutch bike mechanic I remember the first time I saw this bike in the shop and I wondered where it came from. It looks Dutch but different,the frame is shorter rims different and the angles of the frame resulting in a stiffer but more understeary combination. Nice to see them again.
Nou zo stijf zijn die Hollandia's niet hoor!
Here I am a hungarian. We have the Csepel bike manufacturer for more than 90 years, almost 100. It was our first bike manufacturer, and it makes these kind of bikes. Though we call it not dutch bikes but city bikes, or also omafiets in our languages. Nowadays we have more manufacturers, for example not just the Csepel, but the Neuzer and more too. We use it since then, my grandparents, greatparents had this, and also me and my mom has.
It is great for transportation, in our tiny cities, for not so much km-s, but also for short trips. We have ones with or without gears, the last one is just 200 USD, the first one obviously is more.
We are trying to make bikefriendly cities, and even some of the cities are connected by bikepaths. Of course we have mountainbikes, bot mostly for more sporty activities, or in our main city, Budapest, where you need speed to go further.
In the villages, most of the people also use bikes, cause the elders don't have got driving license, and the villages are so small, so why would you even drive a car just for to go to a shop? But we use bikes to go work, or school or even to meet with each other, to go to the caffee etc.
We have famous bikepathes too, for example around the Lake Balaton, around the Lake Tisza, or the Dunakanyar (Danube curve) cycle paths, which leads you throughout forests, next to the river you can swim in or next to the fields, separated and far away from the car roads.
If you come here in the future, try these cycle paths.
There is a very old Csepel advertisment from 1948:
ruclips.net/video/AflRBvSAXr4/видео.html&ab_channel=Quadraxis
5:06 I'm a bike mechanic in Amsterdam, and the one piece stem and handle bars is very common here on typical omafietsen.
Lekker fiets!
Good to know I did not know that but it's comfy enough, works fine!
So the bike can't accomodate different size riders and their preferences for this.
@@Goldsteinphoto You can adjust the steer in hight, but not the angle.
Also, if you buy a bike in the Netherlands, you can buy different frame-sizes. I do not know if that is possible with this brand.
@@fadema123 Those bikes are ok for short slow trips.
But considering there are plenty of much better bikes that are very inexpensive, I can't see the point.
Yup, there are omafietsen over here in the NL with a fixed angle of the handlebars.
The chain guard with a wire that kind of zips together the bottom is very common for guards with cloth. Although plastic guards more common by now I think.
Walmart seems to be sold out of anything by Hollandia that is bike related, so your video must have caused a run on their stock.
Lots of other bikes out there sharing similar features, but it would be nice to have a new and nearly genuine steel omafeits with all the fixin's, like skirt guard and chain case, without spending over $500.
It is my hope to one day own one, as I need a city commuter bike living in downtown Minneapolis.
I want a reliable bike to abuse and take for granted.
Maybe, but maybe it just hasn't been available for a while? It is a pretty cool bike especially in a flat area but lately I've been thinking that maybe a 90s mountain bike etc a more upright handle bar is a better option for most people, however hard to find them in already tuned up condition. Either way thanks for watching!
@@spinningtrue That's what I have been doing. Reformating a big box MTB to act like an upright omafiets. Still struggling with finding the right handlebars and considering a stem extension if I cant find the right rise on the bars I need.
Trying to find that delicate balance between seat and handlebars for the correct cockpit without going to the professionals who will just tell me I am doing it all wrong and need to spend $5k on a touring bike.
@@Colorcrayons oh yeah don't do that you need to find that shop that will work on anything or buy the parts yourself. Origin 8 or dimension or sunlite probably have some high rise handlebars for not much money
You need to get a real Omafiets from Gazelle or Batavus!
Or an old Simplex Cycloïde
You can see it's a little bit different from a standard Dutch omafiets, but really, really close. The ratio of the frame seems a little shorter than normal. As if it's a bit squashed, handle bars closer to the seat than normal.
Could be!
Inexpensive panniers from ALDI or LIDL (when they are available) work really well, as does an inexpensive dynamo light kit from aliexpress (if you upgrade the wiring, don't use what is supplied!). Great bikes, I'm going to add a front wheel pedal assist e-bike kit to mine, to help when taking off, in a headwind, and when loaded. Enjoy!
The white rear fender is a nice detail that you show wil make you more visible , this was once mandatory in the Nederlands but unfortunately no longer.
I don't know if aluminum rims were an upgrade, in general, Dutch bicycles are built to last a long time and not to break down immediately if you drive through a hole that you did not see.
The handlebar is "normaal", it is a Dutch handlebar but not made in the Nederlands.
So this was my comment on your interesting review on a non-Dutch granny bike
I think it is originally an English design and it was also very popular in China after the revolution. I think they were pretty much the same design.
True, from Coventry, but it is not really identical, it just derived from that.
Amazon sells a 21 speed aluminum drop handle bar bike for $120. It has way more parts than the Dutch bikes have and a better frame.
This Dutch style bike should cost no more than $100.
It only misses a wheel lock and rear light.
Hollandia was an actual bike company, just, I think they stopped producing somewhere in the 1980's. And 'Hollandia' can be any company.n
Correction, Walmart sold Omafiets.
What size are the tires? 622 or 635? Most of the omafietsen here in amsterdam are 635 wheel diameter. (For example: 635/40)
They're 700c so 622, interesting about the 635 tires.. here in the US my understanding has been that 700c and 28" was the same size but maybe real 28" is the 635 size. These are the original rims so maybe that size is for the US market?
@@spinningtrue An original Omafiets has 635 wheels.
@@DCM777. Ahh you're right it's very confusing because they're both labeled 28". Better to always use ISO sizes.
You never really said what this thing actually weighs, or compared to what the direct counterpart of a Dutch bike weighs. I was guessing before but I didn't know then.
I mean it's not light, I don't have a scale so it's hard to actually weigh but it really is similar to cheap bikes you find in the Netherlands based on my experience and what other people have commented here.
@@spinningtrue I make at point of knowing the weights of my bikes. 55 lbs. for the E-bike. 32 lbs. for the Marin. 24 lbs. for the State 8-speed. Obviously I'm not obsessed with super light road bikes, (or spending 1000s on them) like is the trend now. Some of the weights you hear about with the carbon fiber frames are like they're made out of paper machete!
@@derekjolly3680 Carbon bikes may be light but they are far stronger than steel or aluminum. My aluminum cyclocross bike has a carbon fiber fork because it is stronger.
There are more citys in The Neterlands then Amsterdam...
What is the diameter of the tubing on the rack?
Hi it's right about 16mm
@@spinningtrue, there’s actually a lot of panniers that work with this size.
Low end in the Netherlands, that would be cheaper than what they are sold in the usa. About 300 euro, but with shipping i think that 400 is normal.
That bike is dold in different colors and in steel or aluminium in the Netherlands.
The white part on the back was by law.
The bike isn't completely according the old Dutch rules, but it is a cheap copy.
A real Dutch omafiets is different, but they cell those also in the Netherlands. I would only never buy that. The quality is far behind of a real Dutch bike.
There are many different omafietsen, but moost are cheap crap.
There is also a heavy duty bike. It ism't a Womens bike, but it is in the same simple styl but stronger so you can cary way more weight.
Yes, supermarkets and discount shops sell 'Dutch bicycles' really cheap at the beginning of school season.
Usually cheap imitation from China. But they have to comply with CE certification to be sold.
(Read: not dangerous, all features functional, basic quality)
They are usually bought as a second bicycle, the one you use to go out in city center, festivals, beach etc where the chance of getting stolen is high.
For school most parents will buy one that has gears, nave dynamo, an AXA ringlock with chain, sturdy frame and of better quality in general.
Very odd open chain guard.
At about 4:05 he explains that that's just the frame of the chain guard.
Here I am a hungarian. We have the Csepel bike manufacturer for more than 90 years, almost 100. It was our first bike manufacturer, and it makes these kind of bikes. Though we call it not dutch bikes but city bikes, or also omafiets in our languages. Nowadays we have more manufacturers, for example not just the Csepel, but the Neuzer and more too. We use it since then, my grandparents, greatparents had this, and also me and my mom has.
It is great for transportation, in our tiny cities, for not so much km-s, but also for short trips. We have ones with or without gears, the last one is just 200 USD, the first one obviously is more.
We are trying to make bikefriendly cities, and even some of the cities are connected by bikepaths. Of course we have mountainbikes, bot mostly for more sporty activities, or in our main city, Budapest, where you need speed to go further.
In the villages, most of the people also use bikes, cause the elders don't have got driving license, and the villages are so small, so why would you even drive a car just for to go to a shop? But we use bikes to go work, or school or even to meet with each other, to go to the caffee etc.
We have famous bikepathes too, for example around the Lake Balaton, around the Lake Tisza, or the Dunakanyar (Danube curve) cycle paths, which leads you throughout forests, next to the river you can swim in or next to the fields, separated and far away from the car roads.
If you come here in the future, try these cycle paths.
+ "Retro Csepel reklám 1948-ból" is an old advertisment about the Csepel here in RUclips.