Excellent comparison video on those who are indecisive on which to choose Global. Personally, I tried those Chinese import versions and they're too tight and its a royal pain to take them in/out of my NES. I just repair my original 72-pin connector and give them a good cleaning. Worked then, and it works now. Thank you for what you do for us kind sir. Anthony...
Yep that works if you have the time. I have great sucess with the new connectors, so it hasn't been an issue. Some are overly tight I agree, but not all.
@@RetroSalesAustralia Strange, I bought a Chinese one (same box) and it's absolutely awful. It's so tight that I'm honestly scared I'll break something trying to get the cart out, almost impossible. Game Genie or Hyperkin Fc 2 Nes adapters can't be inserted at all. So guess I'll use this method to refurbish my old connector instead 😁
And in Scandinavia(Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Iceland) it was marked "European Version" :) And I think it maybe was in countries like Germany as well.
Hi. I've replaced the connector but dear god it's tight as hell and a fight to pull the cartridge back out. Does anyone have a suggestion on what I could do to fix that?
No the NES doesn't use a 50/60hz system like other consoles. It not that simple. You're better off buying a Japanese NES or USA NES. Something else I was thinking about is swapping the CPU and PPU for NTSC versions but I really don't know if that would work... You can buy new chips from China.
About the region free mod: I believe there are a few games that look for the region lock in the console and they won't work if the console is made region free - forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?p=110567&sid=8deb76efd61dfb6a30b8e338345f4703#p110567. The NTSC NES console has a faster processor than the PAL NES console. NTSC NES games on PAL NES console will run slower since they are optimized for the NTSC NES processor. PAL NES games on NTSC NES console will run faster since they are optimized for the PAL NES processor. ruclips.net/video/fAfFFPpeU5k/видео.html
Like ten years ago, I replaced the 72pin connector with one from ebay and it worked pretty well but why not fix it yeah, it was before all those tutorials on RUclips. Led blinking can also appear when the pins of a cartridge is dirty (even with a working 72pin connector).
If it doesn't power on at all ( no red light ) that's a whole different problem and not caused by the 72pin connector at all. In most cases it is a faulty power adapter, sometimes overtime the wires just wear and break contact
i replaced the 72 pin connector and don't need to push game down anymore. maybe you should try that. is it just habit that you keep pushing it down without tying it when it is up? yuo are actually bending the pins pushing it down so it is not a good idea i think. don't push the games down and see if they work for you. also how are you holding the razor blade by the blade like that? who holds a razor blade wit there thumb pushing into the blade itself? that is the most unsafe thing i ever seen.
I didn't have to touch the bottom row of pins. I carefully removed each top pin and bent them down a little. (you can't really get to them while they are still in the connector housing). There's holes on top at the back where each pin is. These give access to the metal retaining tab on each pin. Just push down on them a bit while pulling on the back of the pin and they should come out. Doesn't take much force to do. I wouldn't trust those cheap 72 pin reproductions from China (or anywhere else really). They appear to be way to tight and may wear down the pins on the carts faster. Plus it detracts from the feel of the console. They aren't super tight brand new off the factory so if you come across an NES where carts are hard to push in/pull out then yeah someone stuck a modern replacement in. Seems like the repro's aren't 100% correct in their tolerances. :( I got my NES from a local pawn shop. Seems whoever previously owned it already did the lock chip disable thing. Though I kinda wish they pulled it from the board and not from the chip as I would have undone the mod (I want to keep this NES as original as possible). The pin seems to have been removed from the chip where the pin originates so I can't really undo that mod. Not a big deal I guess. I didn't plan to play any imports so wasn't going to do the mod. But seems someone who owned it last already did it for me. Given that I risk damaging the chip trying to reattach the pin I guess I'm stuck with the mod. :P Anyways I got the NES for $70. After cleaning the mario game it would still not boot and so I pulled out the connector and did what I mentioned and it started working fine after that. Cleaned both my games and now it seems to work every time. I have yet to have it fail to boot since I did that. :D Also the best way to keep things running is to get cartridge sleeves. I don't have one for my mario game yet. Only own 2 games right now. So the one that doesn't have the sleeve I leave inserted in the slot. But I don't leave it fully seated. The metal pins will wear down faster if you just leave a cart inserted in there for long periods of time. So instead I just slide the cart in far enough for the door to close and that's it. Once it gets a sleeve I'll leave it outside the console. Heck even the cart connector on my Sega Genesis Model 2 was a bit finicky since someone left carts in it all the time. I had to pull those pins out a bit to tighten that one up too. Not as finicky as a NES slot, but still. Don't just leave your carts inserted for long periods of time. This applies to pretty much all the cart based consoles like the SNES/Sega Genesis, etc. :P
Global Garage Do I even bother re-tensioning the bottom set of pins that touch the motherboard contact pads or just the 72 pins that grip the cartridge?
I hate when ppl disconnect 10nes chip I've done it on a less worthy console n it only stopped blinking so I can play camerica games but they work on othe consoles too all that does is noting but let you play imports which by the looks of things that's not a ntsc North American console to take out chip for imports
Wiggling the cart is not a solution to the problem, that's just a temporary fix. The reason the light blinks is all due to poor connections within the 72 pin connector, so it really needs to be repaired or replaced one way or another.
+Global Garage then clean 72 pin contacts not converter but the board you connect it to plus qtip the hell out of motherboard use alcohol but be carful reason why systems any system fail is cause motherboard needs tlc
Excellent comparison video on those who are indecisive on which to choose Global.
Personally, I tried those Chinese import versions and they're too tight and its a royal pain to take them in/out of my NES. I just repair my original 72-pin connector and give them a good cleaning. Worked then, and it works now.
Thank you for what you do for us kind sir.
Anthony...
Yep that works if you have the time. I have great sucess with the new connectors, so it hasn't been an issue. Some are overly tight I agree, but not all.
@@RetroSalesAustralia Strange, I bought a Chinese one (same box) and it's absolutely awful. It's so tight that I'm honestly scared I'll break something trying to get the cart out, almost impossible. Game Genie or Hyperkin Fc 2 Nes adapters can't be inserted at all.
So guess I'll use this method to refurbish my old connector instead 😁
B C yeah it’s pot luck with the Chinese connectors but I find some of the well established Hong Kong factories still make the best quality stuff.
Get a chinese connector and it just bloody works! Line of the whole show. Great video.
For those who live in the USA,
The console is marked with "NES Version" for the UK and "Mattel Version" for Australia & New Zealand.
And in Scandinavia(Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Iceland) it was marked "European Version" :) And I think it maybe was in countries like Germany as well.
your chinese 72 pin looks like its a good one. can you please share the link of where you got it?
thank you for turning my nes back to life :D
Pro tip: watch series at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Clayton Gunnar Definitely, I have been using flixzone for months myself :D
Great video, thanks for the information!
Hi. I've replaced the connector but dear god it's tight as hell and a fight to pull the cartridge back out. Does anyone have a suggestion on what I could do to fix that?
i have the exact same diagonal cutters x)
great videos, keep it up!
Subscribed :) Loving these repair videos man!
Thanks Dave. I've been watching your videos lately as well. Subbed!
hey man I've just done this to my nes and it's working again thanks soo much
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+Global Garage already done man thanks
I was wondering if it's possible to do a 50/60hz mod on a PAL NES front and top loader. Tried looking online but couldn't really find anything on it.
No the NES doesn't use a 50/60hz system like other consoles. It not that simple. You're better off buying a Japanese NES or USA NES. Something else I was thinking about is swapping the CPU and PPU for NTSC versions but I really don't know if that would work... You can buy new chips from China.
I think most of the problem on these consoles is the lockout chip. Disabling that I think would solve most of the problems.
Worked perfectly
Thanks!
and disconnecting the 4th pin makes the nes completely regional free?
What can you do if this wont fix it i have changed pin connector and i also cut the pin on the chip
Same
Kinda late but try cleaning the connection on the board itself.
The one where the pin connected attaches to.
Works like new! Thanks
Thanks
About the region free mod: I believe there are a few games that look for the region lock in the console and they won't work if the console is made region free - forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?p=110567&sid=8deb76efd61dfb6a30b8e338345f4703#p110567. The NTSC NES console has a faster processor than the PAL NES console. NTSC NES games on PAL NES console will run slower since they are optimized for the NTSC NES processor. PAL NES games on NTSC NES console will run faster since they are optimized for the PAL NES processor. ruclips.net/video/fAfFFPpeU5k/видео.html
Like ten years ago, I replaced the 72pin connector with one from ebay and it worked pretty well but why not fix it yeah, it was before all those tutorials on RUclips.
Led blinking can also appear when the pins of a cartridge is dirty (even with a working 72pin connector).
Thank you.
thank u so much for this tutorial :)
great advice!
This video might help. I'll try it now :D
I boiled all 3 72 pins, adjusted the pins, used alcohol, sanded. And all 3 systems dont power on. Wth
If it doesn't power on at all ( no red light ) that's a whole different problem and not caused by the 72pin connector at all. In most cases it is a faulty power adapter, sometimes overtime the wires just wear and break contact
I have the Mattel Nes
Me too, with box
i replaced the 72 pin connector and don't need to push game down anymore. maybe you should try that. is it just habit that you keep pushing it down without tying it when it is up? yuo are actually bending the pins pushing it down so it is not a good idea i think. don't push the games down and see if they work for you. also how are you holding the razor blade by the blade like that? who holds a razor blade wit there thumb pushing into the blade itself? that is the most unsafe thing i ever seen.
With the razor I like to live on the edge! :P
the best way to not bend the 72 pin connector to to play the nes games with the game genie dont have to enter cheats but it saves the pin connector
About the 72 pin connector: Buy the Blinking Light Win kit, it is great - www.arcadeworks.net/blw
I've actually got the kit but have had no reason to install it yet. My $5 connector works perfectly.
I didn't have to touch the bottom row of pins. I carefully removed each top pin and bent them down a little. (you can't really get to them while they are still in the connector housing). There's holes on top at the back where each pin is. These give access to the metal retaining tab on each pin. Just push down on them a bit while pulling on the back of the pin and they should come out. Doesn't take much force to do.
I wouldn't trust those cheap 72 pin reproductions from China (or anywhere else really). They appear to be way to tight and may wear down the pins on the carts faster. Plus it detracts from the feel of the console. They aren't super tight brand new off the factory so if you come across an NES where carts are hard to push in/pull out then yeah someone stuck a modern replacement in. Seems like the repro's aren't 100% correct in their tolerances. :(
I got my NES from a local pawn shop. Seems whoever previously owned it already did the lock chip disable thing. Though I kinda wish they pulled it from the board and not from the chip as I would have undone the mod (I want to keep this NES as original as possible). The pin seems to have been removed from the chip where the pin originates so I can't really undo that mod. Not a big deal I guess. I didn't plan to play any imports so wasn't going to do the mod. But seems someone who owned it last already did it for me. Given that I risk damaging the chip trying to reattach the pin I guess I'm stuck with the mod. :P
Anyways I got the NES for $70. After cleaning the mario game it would still not boot and so I pulled out the connector and did what I mentioned and it started working fine after that. Cleaned both my games and now it seems to work every time. I have yet to have it fail to boot since I did that. :D
Also the best way to keep things running is to get cartridge sleeves. I don't have one for my mario game yet. Only own 2 games right now. So the one that doesn't have the sleeve I leave inserted in the slot. But I don't leave it fully seated. The metal pins will wear down faster if you just leave a cart inserted in there for long periods of time. So instead I just slide the cart in far enough for the door to close and that's it. Once it gets a sleeve I'll leave it outside the console.
Heck even the cart connector on my Sega Genesis Model 2 was a bit finicky since someone left carts in it all the time. I had to pull those pins out a bit to tighten that one up too. Not as finicky as a NES slot, but still. Don't just leave your carts inserted for long periods of time. This applies to pretty much all the cart based consoles like the SNES/Sega Genesis, etc. :P
My wife's very cute cousin gave me her old NES, i didn't know they went for so much, I got a few unopened games too!
As an old auto technician ive pulled more than a few terminals for repair and replacement, Im doing it your way, good idea.
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Global Garage Do I even bother re-tensioning the bottom set of pins that touch the motherboard contact pads or just the 72 pins that grip the cartridge?
Just the cart ones. The board side just needs a clean with isoprop.
I hate when ppl disconnect 10nes chip I've done it on a less worthy console n it only stopped blinking so I can play camerica games but they work on othe consoles too all that does is noting but let you play imports which by the looks of things that's not a ntsc North American console to take out chip for imports
Hi Miller, this was a PAL console, so for us to play USA games we need to disable the 10NES. We consider American games "Imports" here.
And also blinking light? Just wiggle cart in console problem solved
Wiggling the cart is not a solution to the problem, that's just a temporary fix. The reason the light blinks is all due to poor connections within the 72 pin connector, so it really needs to be repaired or replaced one way or another.
+Global Garage then clean 72 pin contacts not converter but the board you connect it to plus qtip the hell out of motherboard use alcohol but be carful reason why systems any system fail is cause motherboard needs tlc
No not all the time.... Pins can be out of alignment and dirty so this won't fix it!
With all the people here doing this repair, I say we start a class action law suit........................it's not too late is it?!
My fucking games get stuck all the time!!! faaaack!!!
Albert gomez Aftermarket connector too tight? You may have just got a bad one
Global Garage yes its super tight. im gonna uninstall it and put my original 72pin connector back on.